[00:02.340 --> 00:05.000]  It's just an eye-line for some of the
things we've got to do.
[00:05.080 --> 00:05.640]  I appreciate that.
[00:10.950 --> 00:11.710]  Mandy's not coming.
[00:11.890 --> 00:12.890]  She'll be here this afternoon.
[00:13.950 --> 00:14.710]  Mike's coming around.
[00:14.990 --> 00:15.310]  Yes.
[00:15.410 --> 00:16.270]  What about...
[00:16.270 --> 00:16.630]  Jerry.
[00:16.910 --> 00:17.690]  Jerry will be here.
[00:18.450 --> 00:19.810]  Mandy will be here this afternoon.
[00:20.650 --> 00:21.690]  Dave's going to leave early.
[00:21.850 --> 00:23.650]  What time do you have to cut out,
Dave?
[00:24.110 --> 00:25.010]  I've got to leave at 11.
[00:25.250 --> 00:26.370]  You have to leave at 11?
[00:26.530 --> 00:26.690]  Yeah.
[00:26.730 --> 00:27.630]  I wrote it.
[00:27.750 --> 00:28.830]  Come on, call us.
[00:28.890 --> 00:31.350]  I've got some procedures you've got to do.
[00:31.350 --> 00:32.750]  So you're going to call up to us after you
sit?
[00:32.930 --> 00:33.430]  Yeah, right.
[00:34.030 --> 00:35.370]  I'll take your gator along for that.
[00:37.170 --> 00:38.290]  Dave has to leave at 11.
[00:38.470 --> 00:39.290]  He'll be back when he can.
[00:40.890 --> 00:41.210]  Okay.
[00:41.230 --> 00:41.890]  He's got some tests.
[00:41.910 --> 00:43.110]  And I've got to leave at 8.02.
[00:43.250 --> 00:44.110]  I'll be back by 5.
[00:44.350 --> 00:48.270]  Well, I was telling him Aaron Houchin is
going to be down at 12.30.
[00:48.310 --> 00:49.850]  So I'm going to go look at that and then
come back.
[00:50.930 --> 00:52.250]  She is at the...
[00:53.670 --> 00:54.210]  Brick Street.
[00:54.630 --> 00:56.090]  She'll be at Brick Street at 12.30.
[00:56.190 --> 00:56.270]  Yeah.
[00:57.410 --> 00:57.730]  So...
[01:03.590 --> 01:06.230]  They always set me right where the crack
is and I've got to be careful.
[01:06.470 --> 01:08.530]  I'll be right and I'll poke a hole in my
paper.
[01:12.370 --> 01:13.450]  I'm ready for this front bit.
[01:14.190 --> 01:15.930]  I've got a lot of work going on.
[01:16.330 --> 01:17.490]  I don't know about it.
[01:17.870 --> 01:18.550]  I'm hairy.
[01:18.810 --> 01:19.870]  Is this property starting to move?
[01:20.450 --> 01:21.050]  Not really.
[01:21.790 --> 01:22.550]  Oh good.
[01:22.550 --> 01:24.970]  Yeah, you know who I fired early in the
summer?
[01:26.070 --> 01:26.710]  Never knew.
[01:27.810 --> 01:29.990]  Maybe that's the challenge, isn't it?
[01:32.090 --> 01:33.530]  That's what we're all still hungry for.
[01:33.650 --> 01:35.690]  They sell and hire when we're about the
same.
[01:39.030 --> 01:40.070]  It's hard to say.
[01:40.170 --> 01:43.770]  You'll see one place sell way too high.
[01:43.790 --> 01:45.090]  And that's bad.
[01:45.650 --> 01:47.670]  Because when I find a bunch of them,
I never tell her.
[01:47.790 --> 01:49.130]  She probably wants you to.
[01:49.370 --> 01:50.230]  I do too.
[01:50.430 --> 01:51.190]  But I've got to find one.
[01:51.190 --> 01:52.290]  You know, you're mad.
[01:52.710 --> 01:55.790]  That's the way you send me two acres of
land.
[01:55.930 --> 01:56.950]  What's the one that called you?
[01:57.110 --> 01:57.470]  New York.
[01:57.710 --> 01:58.590]  Oh, New Balance.
[01:58.710 --> 01:59.190]  New Balance?
[01:59.250 --> 01:59.490]  Yes.
[01:59.570 --> 02:00.890]  I mean, you came hard to get here.
[02:01.430 --> 02:03.370]  And this hotel is very well.
[02:03.390 --> 02:05.570]  Oh my gosh.
[02:05.910 --> 02:07.930]  But I mean, I told people.
[02:07.990 --> 02:09.130]  I said, there's no way.
[02:09.210 --> 02:10.510]  They've been looking for years.
[02:10.730 --> 02:12.570]  They don't want to care themselves.
[02:12.670 --> 02:13.130]  They're not doing anything.
[02:13.130 --> 02:15.730]  They care, but they're never going to be
surprised.
[02:15.830 --> 02:17.950]  I thought we had it on the TV,
didn't we?
[02:29.590 --> 02:33.990]  Well, you knew they were going to give
that to the Catholic Church.
[02:34.630 --> 02:38.130]  Irvin told me that himself at the mailbox
that he was going to donate to the church
[02:38.130 --> 02:41.090]  for a getaway for nuns.
[02:41.350 --> 02:43.570]  And they went to the church and told them
that's what they wanted to do.
[02:43.610 --> 02:46.350]  And the Catholic Church said, if you
donate it, you don't get dictated.
[02:46.550 --> 02:50.410]  They picked what those came and Irvin
said, see ya, walked away.
[02:50.610 --> 02:51.570]  He was going to give it to them.
[02:55.650 --> 02:56.110]  What's that?
[02:56.250 --> 02:57.150]  St. Mary's.
[02:57.290 --> 02:57.690]  Really?
[02:57.830 --> 02:58.710]  I've been hearing that out.
[02:58.890 --> 02:59.930]  That is what they do.
[03:00.010 --> 03:01.410]  They don't know what you're telling them.
[03:01.510 --> 03:02.290]  I know, that's crazy.
[03:02.690 --> 03:05.330]  But they just gave up a nice piece of
property.
[03:05.550 --> 03:07.190]  That place is pristine, man.
[03:07.390 --> 03:08.710]  No, I don't think so.
[03:08.850 --> 03:12.590]  I've heard it this morning, but I've heard
it last week.
[03:12.910 --> 03:19.570]  I didn't think so either.
[03:19.890 --> 03:21.090]  I thought, well, that's a no.
[03:36.130 --> 03:37.650]  Okay, thank you.
[03:42.460 --> 03:44.100]  Well, we'll get started.
[03:44.220 --> 03:45.540]  We want to open with a pledge.
[03:51.220 --> 03:57.000]  I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, And to the
[03:57.000 --> 04:03.760]  Republic for which it stands, one nation,
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[04:03.760 --> 04:04.860]  justice for all.
[04:05.040 --> 04:09.140]  If you'll remain standing, we'll also open
with prayer to somebody that led to Dave
[04:09.140 --> 04:09.500]  Cheatham.
[04:10.160 --> 04:14.000]  Dear Father in Heaven, thank you for this
time to gather together and do the
[04:14.000 --> 04:15.560]  business for the people of this county.
[04:15.940 --> 04:18.620]  Give us wisdom and discernment to do what
is right and good.
[04:19.200 --> 04:24.160]  Give each one of us the ability to see
what we should do and do what we can to
[04:24.160 --> 04:24.540]  serve you.
[04:24.540 --> 04:26.160]  We pray this in Jesus' name.
[04:26.320 --> 04:26.620]  Amen.
[04:26.720 --> 04:28.040]  Thank you.
[04:29.100 --> 04:30.200]  Good morning, gentlemen.
[04:30.300 --> 04:31.420]  Cody, you're up first.
[04:32.560 --> 04:35.060]  Would you like to start, General Sheriff?
[04:35.680 --> 04:36.160]  Sheriff.
[04:42.380 --> 04:43.340]  Take six.
[04:44.860 --> 04:45.620]  Thanks, sir.
[04:47.560 --> 04:52.120]  Also, real quick, all the decisions that
we made today, or we talk about today,
[04:52.360 --> 04:55.420]  we try to lock them in, I understand that
it doesn't mean to define them,
[04:55.460 --> 05:00.600]  but you will see it before we adopt it,
and give it time to look at it and see
[05:00.600 --> 05:01.780]  what your opinion is on it.
[05:03.140 --> 05:03.760]  Thank you.
[05:10.130 --> 05:11.010]  Page 6.
[05:15.380 --> 05:22.260]  What do you want to look at?
[05:26.150 --> 05:28.250]  Well, where's your guys' concerns at
first?
[05:31.090 --> 05:36.890]  The only concern that I'm going to have
throughout this whole process all day is
[05:36.890 --> 05:38.310]  the miscellaneous personal services.
[05:38.930 --> 05:42.670]  And when you have one of those,
I've got to see what it is.
[05:42.770 --> 05:47.450]  I have to start from the foundation all
the way back down and come back up so I
[05:47.450 --> 05:48.590]  know what I'm working with.
[05:48.930 --> 05:52.330]  So are miscellaneous services,
Diana, be able to speak a little bit more
[05:52.330 --> 05:54.310]  about it because she wanted to take that
out of my mind.
[05:55.010 --> 06:05.770]  In the jail, that 1170 miscellaneous
service, that is when someone leaves and
[06:05.770 --> 06:07.670]  they have a lot of hot time and they have
a lot of money.
[06:23.520 --> 06:25.040]  Those are all non-reverting funds.
[06:26.340 --> 06:27.720]  Non-reverting funds.
[06:29.080 --> 06:33.260]  So the type of miscellaneous service is
something that should set up the one-line
[06:33.260 --> 06:33.840]  payout of.
[06:34.780 --> 06:36.700]  But those are not in the general order.
[06:41.700 --> 06:45.760]  Okay, so we can't name that a certain
line, what that is, what that's used for,
[06:45.880 --> 06:47.860]  instead of miscellaneous, certain
versions.
[06:48.500 --> 06:50.880]  I would rather see it, I know,
but we're going...
[06:50.880 --> 06:52.520]  We've tried to get some changes made.
[06:53.180 --> 06:56.200]  But we need to make those changes this
year, is what I'm trying to do.
[06:56.640 --> 07:00.540]  Kind of like Albert Einstein kind of
quoted that before, doing the same thing
[07:00.540 --> 07:01.040]  over and over.
[07:01.320 --> 07:03.960]  That makes it non-reverting, one line up.
[07:04.200 --> 07:04.560]  Right.
[07:04.640 --> 07:05.580]  They can pay out of it.
[07:05.740 --> 07:09.840]  Okay, so any of those lines, if you're
paying something out of that, I want to
[07:09.840 --> 07:11.800]  know what that is, not miscellaneous
service.
[07:11.920 --> 07:14.240]  I need to know what that, exactly what
that is.
[07:14.900 --> 07:17.240]  I'm just saying, it's not a department
name.
[07:17.340 --> 07:23.120]  That's just, you know, traditionally from,
I don't know how they pay out.
[07:23.320 --> 07:24.400]  Okay, I got you.
[07:24.480 --> 07:24.840]  Alright.
[07:25.720 --> 07:27.700]  Do you see what I'm working on with Matt?
[07:27.960 --> 07:29.000]  What I'm trying to do?
[07:29.300 --> 07:30.120]  Where it has a definition.
[07:31.220 --> 07:31.880]  Yeah, yeah.
[07:32.260 --> 07:34.420]  All through the whole county we're going
to do the same thing.
[07:34.420 --> 07:35.200]  Okay.
[07:37.540 --> 07:42.320]  That was the only concerns I had with this
with this budget because it looked... it
[07:42.320 --> 07:43.540]  really looked pretty good to me.
[07:43.840 --> 07:46.820]  Did it look good when we sent it to you or
when we gave it back to you?
[07:47.300 --> 07:49.720]  It looked good when the form was born.
[07:49.980 --> 07:51.180]  I thought it looked good to me.
[07:51.500 --> 07:57.240]  Well, my concern, and this is... I'm
speaking for the entire Sheriff's Office
[07:57.240 --> 07:58.920]  and the general We've
[08:03.740 --> 08:11.800]  maintained the pay matrix, if you call it,
of giving these guys a steady increase of
[08:11.800 --> 08:18.220]  pay consistent with the cost of living
over the last four, five, six years since
[08:18.220 --> 08:18.980]  2021.
[08:19.900 --> 08:21.300]  I want to continue that.
[08:21.360 --> 08:22.580]  I don't want to fall behind on that.
[08:23.600 --> 08:28.640]  My concern is we are going to lose great
employees to other departments.
[08:30.580 --> 08:36.300]  And I truly, and I've said it before,
but I truly see if we go with what Reed
[08:36.300 --> 08:41.020]  has proposed, we are going to lose three
to five guys by the end of next year.
[08:41.140 --> 08:47.560]  I just, our guys cannot sacrifice monetary
value enough to work in the same community
[08:47.560 --> 08:49.020]  for so long.
[08:49.140 --> 08:49.460]  That's it.
[08:49.680 --> 08:51.020]  And then we're going to end up leaving.
[08:51.200 --> 08:52.020]  And I don't want to see that.
[08:52.120 --> 08:53.220]  We have very good employees.
[08:55.440 --> 08:56.880]  Yeah, we're following the matrix.
[08:57.100 --> 08:58.480]  We're following the matrix.
[08:59.160 --> 09:02.240]  But now, so you know, we'll back up in a
second.
[09:02.340 --> 09:04.200]  When I said that I might have misspoke a
little bit.
[09:04.760 --> 09:06.160]  Reedy's not proposing anything.
[09:06.860 --> 09:07.260]  Nothing.
[09:07.400 --> 09:08.020]  We are.
[09:08.380 --> 09:13.200]  This finance team, which would be me,
Gene, and Dave, is letting them know how
[09:13.200 --> 09:14.540]  we want them to put it together.
[09:14.740 --> 09:16.260]  And then they put it together for us.
[09:16.280 --> 09:21.700]  So on the on the re-printing of the Yeah,
yeah, yeah, they just put it together for
[09:21.700 --> 09:21.880]  them.
[09:21.960 --> 09:24.920]  The post-council budget on significant
[09:29.650 --> 09:32.550]  decreases in what I requested on the form
form.
[09:32.790 --> 09:34.350]  And there probably will be.
[09:34.410 --> 09:38.550]  There won't be no significant decreases in
the matrix.
[09:38.690 --> 09:39.550]  That will stay the same.
[09:40.110 --> 09:42.810]  Whatever that matrix is, that's what it
will be.
[09:43.030 --> 09:48.590]  And then plus, I think it was a percent
and a half and five hundred dollars.
[09:48.790 --> 09:51.330]  And that's going to go across the board
through the whole county.
[09:51.330 --> 09:56.070]  And I understand your concerns with losing
patriots, losing people.
[09:56.790 --> 10:00.510]  We have the same problem with all
businesses, all through the state.
[10:05.230 --> 10:09.950]  So are you saying, Cody, what you
submitted is not... did you follow the
[10:09.950 --> 10:10.210]  matrix?
[10:10.590 --> 10:15.530]  You did, but there were some areas that he
raised a little higher because he wanted
[10:15.530 --> 10:16.190]  to retain them.
[10:16.190 --> 10:21.530]  And some of them, going with what was
proposed, the differences in the lines
[10:21.530 --> 10:25.950]  weren't consistent across the board,
but some, I mean, it's like Diana,
[10:26.030 --> 10:30.510]  Diana says it best, this is a snapshot of
June 30th when this is available to be
[10:30.510 --> 10:30.950]  turned in.
[10:31.190 --> 10:34.130]  We have to move guys in between lines to
be able to pay up.
[10:37.110 --> 10:42.150]  So whenever I put those in there,
it may change by the end of next year,
[10:42.190 --> 10:44.630]  obviously, which is, I mean, that's
expected.
[10:45.830 --> 10:50.410]  I'm just wanting to make sure that the
guys are getting compensated for their
[10:50.410 --> 10:54.390]  longevity within the sheriff's office and
that the county isn't ending.
[10:57.120 --> 10:59.020]  Isn't that what The Matrix was doing
though?
[10:59.260 --> 11:00.300]  Yes, yes.
[11:00.560 --> 11:05.540]  But what he's trying to do, I think what
he's trying to do is, some of them he's
[11:05.540 --> 11:09.300]  trying to raise them up a little bit
higher than The Matrix.
[11:11.140 --> 11:13.420]  I'm only one person of seven board
members.
[11:13.420 --> 11:16.080]  I told Cody this.
[11:16.240 --> 11:18.200]  I don't want to do it that way.
[11:19.080 --> 11:21.240]  I don't want to keep it consistent.
[11:21.580 --> 11:23.320]  I thought that's why we agreed to the
matrix.
[11:23.440 --> 11:23.680]  Right.
[11:23.680 --> 11:25.140]  But we don't want to lose anyone.
[11:25.440 --> 11:27.660]  We didn't adopt it, but we agreed that we
would follow it.
[11:27.740 --> 11:27.800]  Right.
[11:27.800 --> 11:29.960]  And so that's where my confusion is coming
in.
[11:30.060 --> 11:38.000]  So the matrix is whatever the cost of
living that you guys do plus 1% or 1.25%
[11:38.000 --> 11:39.300]  depending on how long they've been here.
[11:39.800 --> 11:40.700]  And their rank.
[11:40.920 --> 11:42.340]  We knew all that.
[11:42.340 --> 11:43.580]  The rank doesn't go on it.
[11:43.600 --> 11:46.180]  The rank is just an additional on top of
their hours.
[11:46.260 --> 11:52.360]  If we added the rank into it, it would
skew the numbers ever so slightly in their
[11:52.360 --> 11:52.560]  place.
[11:53.140 --> 11:54.800]  It's not that we're not trying to do that.
[11:54.880 --> 11:56.240]  It's just to be able to stay consistent.
[11:56.300 --> 12:02.400]  We take the base hourly pay, multiply it
by whatever our pay matrix is,
[12:02.460 --> 12:04.480]  plus whatever the cost of living is,
the county's limit.
[12:05.000 --> 12:09.340]  My main concern is, is the county the one
and a half percent this year?
[12:13.960 --> 12:15.600]  Yes, that's the answer is yes.
[12:15.760 --> 12:16.780]  It's one and a half.
[12:16.880 --> 12:21.140]  It's one and a half plus $500 stipend at
this point.
[12:21.660 --> 12:22.820]  After the one and a half.
[12:22.820 --> 12:23.800]  After the one and a half.
[12:23.880 --> 12:24.680]  For this year.
[12:25.320 --> 12:28.140]  Because the next four years is going to be
tough.
[12:28.140 --> 12:30.860]  How is that added in?
[12:32.020 --> 12:36.820]  Is it divided over $500?
[12:37.200 --> 12:41.820]  Is it divided over the 26th pay period or
is it a lump sum somewhere that happens?
[12:42.160 --> 12:44.060]  We haven't decided exactly how we're going
to do that.
[12:44.240 --> 12:47.680]  Because it would be 27 pay periods I'm
pretty sure next year.
[12:47.840 --> 12:49.300]  It will help us figure that out.
[12:50.640 --> 12:55.740]  We do the 1.5% on the matrix, put it in,
it gives us a quote, and then add $500.
[12:59.400 --> 13:04.160]  We talked a little bit about that.
[13:04.200 --> 13:06.500]  We are not exactly sure how we are going
to do that.
[13:06.660 --> 13:08.540]  I know exactly what you are saying.
[13:10.440 --> 13:11.680]  Is it $500?
[13:12.680 --> 13:16.400]  Is that what we did last year?
[13:17.400 --> 13:18.900]  I think that's what we did last year.
[13:19.460 --> 13:22.020]  I asked Kim what normally...
[13:22.020 --> 13:28.440]  I thought it was all over the cycle last
year when we gave... it was over the pay
[13:28.440 --> 13:28.720]  curries.
[13:28.980 --> 13:30.160]  It wasn't a lump sum.
[13:30.320 --> 13:33.520]  Well, we don't... I don't know how we're
going to do that.
[13:33.600 --> 13:35.260]  We might want to see it at...
[13:35.820 --> 13:38.460]  As long as they give it.
[13:38.720 --> 13:39.080]  Yeah.
[13:43.300 --> 13:43.660]  Yeah.
[13:43.660 --> 13:46.320]  We don't know exactly how it's going to...
and we don't know if it's going to be...
[13:46.320 --> 13:50.980]  we're not locked in on it's going to be a
one year... it's going to be a one year
[13:50.980 --> 13:51.700]  thing.
[13:52.760 --> 13:58.100]  We might say it's going to be a percent
and a half plus $500 for the base.
[13:58.380 --> 14:00.340]  We're not really locked in on that yet.
[14:00.420 --> 14:01.600]  That's what I said in the first meeting.
[14:02.200 --> 14:06.360]  There's going to be some changes made,
but they will know in plenty of time.
[14:06.520 --> 14:07.540]  Everybody will.
[14:32.970 --> 14:34.690]  What else do you want to look at,
Cody?
[14:45.990 --> 14:49.850]  I sent on my form all those stuff.
[14:50.430 --> 14:58.730]  I was told you may want to put those in.
[15:00.720 --> 15:02.200]  I put those all at the bottom.
[15:02.240 --> 15:04.980]  I didn't see any of that on what I
received back from the council.
[15:10.110 --> 15:11.770]  Did you guys see that on the form?
[15:11.970 --> 15:14.850]  The one when you were... do you remember
what you did with that?
[15:15.090 --> 15:15.790]  No, we haven't.
[15:16.890 --> 15:19.990]  Because we're not sure exactly if it's
going to be in the bond.
[15:20.090 --> 15:21.390]  We haven't talked to them about that
either.
[15:22.370 --> 15:25.330]  See, some of that stuff I don't want in
the budget.
[15:26.110 --> 15:27.830]  I want to see it in the bond.
[15:27.890 --> 15:29.050]  I don't want it to be budgeted.
[15:29.230 --> 15:30.870]  I want to see it in a bond.
[15:31.770 --> 15:34.490]  I'm not really sure how that's going to
work with the...
[15:36.440 --> 15:41.040]  So that's another discussion item we have
to bring back to you.
[15:43.160 --> 15:46.680]  I'm just looking at the numbers over the
last week or so.
[15:47.160 --> 15:50.880]  Our 2027 budget for the sheriff's office,
this does not include the jails.
[15:58.120 --> 16:00.780]  Me personally, I don't see that as a very
large increase.
[16:01.020 --> 16:02.680]  I understand the financial side.
[16:09.840 --> 16:15.540]  Other than the bond things, I will rework
the figures for the pay matrix with a
[16:15.540 --> 16:16.340]  1.5%.
[16:20.740 --> 16:26.740]  The elected official, I know it was
formulated based off of the one and a half
[16:26.740 --> 16:27.860]  percent plus five hundred.
[16:27.960 --> 16:33.780]  That's actually Indiana code, which means
it's a two percent prosecutor's pay,
[16:34.060 --> 16:37.300]  so that number would have to be adjusted
to whatever that is.
[16:37.380 --> 16:39.100]  We've reached out to the prosecutor.
[16:39.160 --> 16:40.580]  We haven't received any word back.
[16:42.140 --> 16:45.000]  It's almost the same, so I think people
are saying it's almost the same.
[16:45.760 --> 16:48.780]  So it will be close to that figure,
but I just want to make sure.
[16:51.160 --> 16:54.560]  Are there any other lines on the share
that anybody has questions on?
[16:54.680 --> 16:55.040]  I do.
[16:55.240 --> 16:55.860]  I do.
[16:55.860 --> 16:59.200]  And this is the resource officers.
[16:59.960 --> 17:02.440]  The department head of the resource
officers.
[17:03.820 --> 17:10.840]  So that's 55340 is the proposed budget
from the council.
[17:11.140 --> 17:11.660]  Right?
[17:12.380 --> 17:18.280]  That is in In 1170 on page 6 is when I see
one of them.
[17:18.300 --> 17:19.000]  I see two of them.
[17:19.040 --> 17:20.080]  I heard all three of them.
[17:20.140 --> 17:20.500]  There's three of them.
[17:20.600 --> 17:20.800]  Yeah.
[17:23.800 --> 17:24.360]  One's higher.
[17:24.600 --> 17:26.320]  58, 220.
[17:28.460 --> 17:33.740]  And I think the school in the past has
given us $40,000 per officer.
[17:34.920 --> 17:38.940]  So when I spoke with the school about
that, they said that is what their
[17:38.940 --> 17:39.760]  intention is.
[17:40.880 --> 17:43.560]  So we can't, we can't operate on
intention.
[17:43.880 --> 17:45.420]  We got to know what it is.
[17:46.840 --> 17:53.300]  Because they didn't commit to me that we
have to have something in writing before
[17:53.300 --> 17:54.760]  we're going to stick that in the budget.
[17:55.020 --> 17:56.820]  So how do you want me to handle that?
[17:56.980 --> 18:02.100]  Well, right now, we don't know exactly
what they're doing.
[18:02.340 --> 18:05.820]  And once I find out what they're doing,
then that's going to be a discussion we're
[18:05.820 --> 18:06.460]  going to have to have.
[18:06.700 --> 18:07.400]  Have you talked to them?
[18:07.400 --> 18:12.860]  So, I spoke with Philip and his question,
he responded to me with that, that's our
[18:12.860 --> 18:13.480]  intention.
[18:14.180 --> 18:20.840]  Well, when we talked to him a year ago and
a year past, we said we have to have some
[18:20.840 --> 18:26.860]  kind of, because they're going to get pay
increases, we need that pay increase to
[18:26.860 --> 18:30.900]  also be a full portion of that that you're
paying.
[18:35.560 --> 18:39.180]  They got to help pay the raises as well.
[18:39.420 --> 18:42.140]  And they agreed, but they didn't know what
that number was.
[18:42.280 --> 18:43.040]  That's what you need.
[18:43.360 --> 18:44.280]  That's what I need.
[18:44.700 --> 18:47.460]  But I haven't got that solid yet.
[18:47.520 --> 18:48.680]  He's not saying that.
[18:50.460 --> 18:59.330]  We'll work on what that number should be
and kind of get him to agree to it.
[19:02.770 --> 19:03.250]  Right.
[19:03.430 --> 19:05.430]  As long as I get some information on that.
[19:05.530 --> 19:06.230]  For sure.
[19:10.750 --> 19:17.790]  I hate to say this, but if they say no,
I don't think the county can... and I'm
[19:17.790 --> 19:21.010]  not speaking for you guys, but at that
point, they either go back to the river
[19:21.010 --> 19:21.630]  or...
[19:21.630 --> 19:24.650]  and nobody wants that out of the schools,
I would think.
[19:25.150 --> 19:27.010]  No, I don't think anybody would want that.
[19:27.110 --> 19:28.850]  Schools are being cut, too, as well as we
are.
[19:28.850 --> 19:32.330]  We raised our budget six and a half
million dollars, that's what I'm saying.
[19:32.550 --> 19:37.470]  Throughout the year, 180 days,
my officers are in schools not on patrol
[19:37.470 --> 19:37.990]  with the county.
[19:38.610 --> 19:42.290]  The responsibility, in my opinion,
should fall on the schools to supplement
[19:42.290 --> 19:43.190]  that pay.
[19:43.450 --> 19:44.390]  Right, we agree.
[19:46.410 --> 19:47.950]  We just need your commitment that they
will.
[19:48.470 --> 19:53.190]  Other than the go long stuff that was at
the bottom of the Form 1, I don't know if
[19:53.190 --> 19:55.290]  that's a discussion for later on where to
put that.
[19:55.290 --> 19:59.250]  I just don't want to roll into 27 without
that information.
[19:59.550 --> 20:04.190]  And Bill being due and us trying to figure
out where the money is coming from.
[20:04.290 --> 20:05.950]  We'd better get ahead of it and be
proactive.
[20:07.410 --> 20:08.390]  What else do you have, Dave?
[20:09.010 --> 20:11.770]  Well, the only thing else I've got to add,
and I think we spoke about it,
[20:11.810 --> 20:15.970]  me and Diana did, and maybe the rest of
the board has talked about it.
[20:15.990 --> 20:19.210]  We're coming into another year of 27 pay
periods.
[20:19.890 --> 20:23.670]  And we're going to have to... this is my
thoughts on this.
[20:23.710 --> 20:24.450]  I've been through it.
[20:24.450 --> 20:29.330]  A couple different times we're going to
have to either encumber that money this
[20:29.330 --> 20:35.670]  year for 27 for 27 days next year I think
really maybe you have a different way to
[20:35.670 --> 20:41.390]  explain that I don't know I could but I've
been through it I don't see how you can
[20:41.390 --> 20:46.090]  maybe with the salary employees it might
be a little different than the hourly I
[20:46.090 --> 20:51.010]  don't have a little make that work I got
an idea yeah it's not gonna It's not going
[20:51.010 --> 20:57.150]  to encumber anything, but the budget gets
set, and depending on what you decide to
[20:57.150 --> 21:00.070]  do with raises, instead of 26 pays,
we just divide it by 27.
[21:01.150 --> 21:05.790]  The issue that you run into is that
paychecks, even with a raise, will
[21:05.790 --> 21:09.270]  sometimes be less because it's 27 pays
instead of 26.
[21:09.610 --> 21:12.510]  The overall budget, when I see the number,
whatever you give me, that's what's going
[21:12.510 --> 21:15.690]  to be in there, but dividing it by 27 will
stay at 26.
[21:16.590 --> 21:17.970]  It will affect the paycheck.
[21:17.970 --> 21:20.410]  Yeah, I know that.
[21:20.890 --> 21:26.050]  So that's something we're going to have to
discuss, but in my personal opinion,
[21:26.230 --> 21:31.910]  that has to be, we have to give them that
hourly, especially, I think all of them,
[21:31.950 --> 21:34.730]  that additional pay, 27 days.
[21:35.510 --> 21:39.490]  And I sat down, I spoke to some other
entities, and they said the same thing I'm
[21:39.490 --> 21:39.690]  saying.
[21:39.790 --> 21:43.290]  So I don't know, Bartholomew County is
doing the same thing.
[21:44.650 --> 21:49.070]  And it's a long, long discussion of who's
right and who's wrong.
[21:49.690 --> 21:56.990]  Even the State Board of Accounts is saying
that you have to, that money has to be put
[21:56.990 --> 21:59.050]  in for 27 days.
[21:59.690 --> 22:02.950]  That additional two, I think it's two
weeks, what die in the will.
[22:03.510 --> 22:04.070]  Right.
[22:04.150 --> 22:07.850]  So most of our, most of the county
employees are hourly employees,
[22:08.210 --> 22:09.970]  and that's for those salary orders.
[22:10.290 --> 22:12.690]  So you would still owe them for that
27-month pay.
[22:31.380 --> 22:33.340]  That's the same thing we had done in the
past.
[22:34.400 --> 22:37.500]  And I think what's going to happen is
we're going to be proactive.
[22:37.860 --> 22:38.400]  We've got to do it.
[22:38.400 --> 22:41.600]  I've been through it where we didn't do it
until I was a second neighbor,
[22:41.700 --> 22:43.480]  I'm sure, and trained for that extra
month.
[22:43.520 --> 22:44.460]  That's just for hours.
[22:45.260 --> 22:47.860]  Well, but you want to cover them all with
paycheck to paycheck.
[22:47.860 --> 22:50.160]  I just, I think, just for context here,
I've done it.
[22:50.240 --> 22:51.400]  Which is 90% rubbish.
[22:52.300 --> 22:54.820]  I know, but they budget paycheck to
paycheck.
[22:55.240 --> 22:56.440]  I've been there my whole life.
[22:56.440 --> 23:00.040]  We haven't talked about that, but we need
to do that within the next few months.
[23:00.280 --> 23:00.880]  We've got to.
[23:03.900 --> 23:05.700]  I know how you guys feel about it.
[23:05.980 --> 23:07.020]  Yeah, budget is the budget.
[23:08.400 --> 23:12.500]  If you want to pursue that, I will get
Kaitlin involved to do it and bring that
[23:12.500 --> 23:14.500]  up in the accounting session.
[23:14.960 --> 23:16.880]  But is your district encumbered this year?
[23:18.560 --> 23:21.060]  They're only going to encumber if you do
the additionals.
[23:21.180 --> 23:21.540]  Right.
[23:21.600 --> 23:21.960]  Yeah.
[23:23.120 --> 23:24.920]  That's what we should do.
[23:26.340 --> 23:28.160]  What do you guys think about encumbering
this year?
[23:28.340 --> 23:29.600]  I'm all for it, 100%.
[23:29.600 --> 23:30.660]  That's what we were just talking about.
[23:30.680 --> 23:30.900]  Okay.
[23:31.140 --> 23:31.500]  Yeah.
[23:33.740 --> 23:36.220]  I don't care if I was thinking that's the
way to go and you can encumber it.
[23:36.220 --> 23:37.560]  You want to do it in twenty-six?
[23:37.740 --> 23:38.740]  Is that what you're saying, Mike?
[23:38.840 --> 23:39.140]  Yeah.
[23:39.280 --> 23:43.360]  You know, I was telling Dave here,
we were talking about it, and it's...
[23:43.360 --> 23:44.300]  look.
[23:46.580 --> 23:49.900]  Most of our employees live in budget
paycheck to paycheck.
[23:50.060 --> 23:54.080]  If you're going to throw it off like that,
I mean, you're essentially giving them
[23:54.080 --> 23:59.420]  each paycheck less, and it's going to
really throw a lot of people off,
[23:59.460 --> 24:02.820]  and I'm not... we've got enough to
encumber that over.
[24:02.820 --> 24:07.720]  There are some long-term problems,
obviously, with the budget, but to take
[24:07.720 --> 24:13.380]  care of 27 and the extra paycheck,
I would be 100% for making sure that,
[24:13.480 --> 24:17.580]  as I said, yes, I mean, I've been there,
you know, living paycheck to paycheck.
[24:17.740 --> 24:23.180]  If that happens, you know, it does create
a problem.
[24:23.840 --> 24:26.600]  It's going to cost a larger raise than the
percent we have.
[24:26.740 --> 24:27.800]  It's going to be a bigger raise.
[24:27.940 --> 24:28.300]  I would agree.
[24:28.300 --> 24:28.320]  Yes, I agree.
[24:29.080 --> 24:33.840]  You know, I don't mind doing that,
but we've gotta remember that we're
[24:33.840 --> 24:37.020]  getting less money next year than we are
this year.
[24:37.180 --> 24:38.380]  And the year after that we're getting less
money.
[24:38.520 --> 24:41.920]  The property tax is going down
substantially next year, more than it did
[24:41.920 --> 24:42.340]  this year.
[24:42.480 --> 24:44.140]  And the year after that, even more than
that.
[24:44.680 --> 24:48.080]  What we have on the budget right now,
we're already a million dollars in
[24:48.080 --> 24:48.440]  deficit.
[24:49.180 --> 24:51.880]  With what we have here, without doing
anything more.
[24:52.540 --> 24:55.560]  If we do something more, and I'm not
saying we shouldn't.
[24:55.560 --> 24:57.980]  And other counties are facing the same
thing.
[24:58.080 --> 24:59.840]  You're talking about competition with
other counties.
[24:59.940 --> 25:00.980]  Other counties are getting cut.
[25:01.300 --> 25:02.880]  Property tax is going way down.
[25:03.160 --> 25:09.800]  By 19... by 2028, it's going to be
two-thirds less than what it is last year.
[25:09.940 --> 25:11.280]  It's going to be cut that much.
[25:11.760 --> 25:17.820]  And when you have millions of dollars
deficit in your budget, you can't do some
[25:17.820 --> 25:18.580]  of the things you've been...
[25:18.580 --> 25:19.780]  It's not business as usual.
[25:19.940 --> 25:21.660]  We can't do that until we...
[25:21.660 --> 25:24.780]  Next year, we'll have the ability to raise
income tax.
[25:24.780 --> 25:27.100]  And we can make up a lot of that
difference next year.
[25:27.160 --> 25:28.200]  We can't do it this year.
[25:28.780 --> 25:30.180]  And we can do that next year.
[25:30.220 --> 25:35.380]  We can raise .4% of the income tax and
make higher income from that to replace
[25:35.380 --> 25:36.200]  some of the property.
[25:36.280 --> 25:37.580]  And that's what this law is all about.
[25:37.840 --> 25:38.940]  That's what they pass it for.
[25:39.740 --> 25:44.220]  But, you know, when you have a lot less
income, I don't believe personally,
[25:44.380 --> 25:51.660]  and I'm just one of seven, that you have a
systemic deficit in your budget ongoing.
[25:51.660 --> 25:51.880]  This is ongoing.
[25:52.260 --> 25:56.720]  If we pass this budget right here we have
on the table, it's a million and a half
[25:56.720 --> 25:57.680]  dollars in deficit.
[25:58.140 --> 26:02.020]  And we have extra money, but I don't want
to be like the federal government and
[26:02.020 --> 26:07.020]  continuously be in deficit every year and
spend down what we have so we have nothing
[26:07.020 --> 26:07.320]  left.
[26:07.580 --> 26:08.740]  We can't do that.
[26:08.880 --> 26:10.220]  But it's not going to be ongoing.
[26:10.660 --> 26:13.260]  It's just this transition that we're
facing right now.
[26:13.480 --> 26:15.420]  We don't have extra money this year.
[26:16.020 --> 26:20.380]  We have actually less than we had last
year because they've already cut property
[26:20.380 --> 26:21.420]  taxes this year.
[26:51.660 --> 26:52.900]  We have to be conservative right now.
[26:53.740 --> 26:57.220]  We can make things up, I think,
next year when we find out more details
[26:57.220 --> 26:58.460]  about what income we have.
[26:59.220 --> 27:04.920]  And again, I'm not saying everyone doesn't
deserve it, and I wish we could go on as
[27:04.920 --> 27:08.500]  we have before in the past, but things
have changed substantially with this new
[27:08.500 --> 27:08.780]  law.
[27:09.060 --> 27:11.620]  And we have to face the realities of what
this new law is.
[27:12.140 --> 27:16.320]  And until we get more information and see
how all this is going to affect our
[27:16.320 --> 27:19.140]  budgets, we have to start out
conservatively.
[27:19.140 --> 27:23.760]  And as we have the ability to,
I think we can then move to make it more
[27:23.760 --> 27:26.720]  sustainable as far as what we need to do
for our employees.
[27:27.020 --> 27:28.060]  That's just my opinion.
[27:28.500 --> 27:30.820]  And I'm just dealing with the reality of
what we have.
[27:31.200 --> 27:34.360]  And I'm not saying we shouldn't do
everything that you guys are asking for.
[27:34.560 --> 27:37.880]  Because, you know, my priorities,
there's certain priorities as far as
[27:37.880 --> 27:38.080]  accounting.
[27:38.200 --> 27:39.800]  We have to provide protection.
[27:40.540 --> 27:43.040]  Safety is the number one thing.
[27:43.160 --> 27:44.300]  And that's something we need to do.
[27:44.300 --> 27:44.300]  We're going deep.
[27:44.860 --> 27:51.340]  But if we can't do it without going deeply
in debt, we have to reconsider the timing
[27:51.340 --> 27:55.400]  and when we do things until we finally get
all this evened out and, you know,
[27:55.400 --> 27:57.400]  the income tax will eventually even it all
out.
[27:57.700 --> 28:02.600]  But right now, we are looking at this
budget right here until we have the
[28:02.600 --> 28:04.480]  ability to do things to get other income.
[28:04.700 --> 28:08.220]  We're looking at a million, a million and
a half dollars in deficit right now.
[28:09.140 --> 28:13.680]  And when we started out with what all the
departments gave us and asked for,
[28:13.740 --> 28:15.580]  we were $5 million in deficit.
[28:16.620 --> 28:18.980]  And we've gone through, in some of these
lines, we've tried to cut.
[28:19.140 --> 28:22.600]  We've tried to do that to make it on an
as-needed basis.
[28:22.860 --> 28:26.620]  Instead of having all the miscellaneous
things, we're going to pay what we have to
[28:26.620 --> 28:27.460]  in bills and things.
[28:27.840 --> 28:31.200]  And we kind of, you know, the finance
committee kind of talked about,
[28:31.240 --> 28:33.820]  we're going to pay if things need to be
paid.
[28:33.860 --> 28:36.760]  You come to us, you say, well,
it's not in the budget, but we're going to
[28:36.760 --> 28:37.880]  pay it, because we've got to.
[28:37.880 --> 28:45.080]  You know Matt, this is a good one in my
opinion, and I kind of agree with some of
[28:45.080 --> 28:49.840]  the stuff it's saying, and I kind of
don't, but this would be a good one that
[28:49.840 --> 28:54.840]  you could use cash, because that's the one
that comes around about every 11 years.
[28:57.920 --> 29:00.140]  I've been longer than that since we got
that thing.
[29:00.760 --> 29:02.020]  Whatever, whatever it is.
[29:02.200 --> 29:06.080]  But that's something that we always
wondered, if you got cash, how are we
[29:06.080 --> 29:06.660]  going to spend it now?
[29:06.700 --> 29:08.500]  We know that you don't use that for your
budget.
[29:08.840 --> 29:12.940]  But if it comes around every seven years,
nine years, whatever that may be,
[29:13.580 --> 29:15.240]  you're only probably talking every time.
[29:15.360 --> 29:18.740]  You might be talking $160,000,
$170,000.
[29:20.000 --> 29:21.640]  That would be the way to do it.
[29:21.640 --> 29:26.560]  The other thing I'm thinking about,
Matt, is, so if we put it in this budget,
[29:26.880 --> 29:31.980]  then next year when you plug those numbers
in, that extra pay will, that will show up
[29:31.980 --> 29:34.420]  as what their salary was last year and
then that will be on top.
[29:34.560 --> 29:38.380]  So it needs to be an additional
appropriation, I feel like, because we
[29:38.380 --> 29:40.040]  don't want to put that extra pay on top.
[29:40.280 --> 29:45.240]  So when you plug the numbers in,
and it looks like this is what was paid
[29:45.240 --> 29:47.960]  out last year, that's where the starting
figure will be.
[29:48.560 --> 29:52.620]  So that looks like it's a bigger... I'm
following what you're saying, Dave.
[29:52.620 --> 29:53.300]  That makes sense, yeah.
[29:54.200 --> 29:55.800]  Yeah, it's a bigger base when you start
out there.
[29:55.920 --> 29:56.160]  Yes.
[29:57.700 --> 30:01.440]  Which is a nightmare for you guys if we
don't do it like an extra...
[30:03.800 --> 30:06.800]  Because then you have to back all that
back out when you start.
[30:07.020 --> 30:08.820]  As long as we know what the base is,
it's...
[30:09.560 --> 30:12.020]  But if we put it in this budget,
that would be the base.
[30:12.580 --> 30:13.880]  That's an increased rebate, yeah.
[30:14.060 --> 30:14.400]  Yes.
[30:15.660 --> 30:17.360]  It's not a nightmare for me.
[30:17.360 --> 30:18.420]  No, it's not a nightmare.
[30:18.480 --> 30:19.460]  I don't know why it's a nightmare.
[30:19.560 --> 30:20.100]  I know what you're saying.
[30:20.700 --> 30:22.420]  As long as we communicate it.
[30:22.520 --> 30:24.540]  I still don't know why you wouldn't pay it
out of the...
[30:24.540 --> 30:26.560]  if you're going to do it every seven
years...
[30:27.100 --> 30:28.800]  why you just wouldn't pay it out of cash.
[30:31.040 --> 30:31.700]  You can.
[30:32.000 --> 30:35.560]  I would recommend getting the rest of your
budget...
[30:36.060 --> 30:36.460]  fundable.
[30:36.800 --> 30:39.580]  And then if the excess that you spend
down...
[30:39.580 --> 30:41.860]  is because of this extra pay period...
[30:41.860 --> 30:42.880]  then you guys make that decision.
[30:43.280 --> 30:45.940]  Yeah, that would be the quickest,
easiest, cleanest way to do it.
[30:45.940 --> 30:48.440]  And it won't affect us hardly at all.
[30:50.420 --> 30:53.200]  And we're always concerned with how are we
spending that cash?
[30:53.400 --> 30:53.960]  What are we going to do?
[30:54.080 --> 30:58.540]  Well, what's a better way to spend that on
your cash but on your people if you can?
[30:59.120 --> 31:00.840]  It's not going to be an every year
occurrence.
[31:01.440 --> 31:03.960]  If you put it in the base, it'll be an
every year thing though.
[31:04.080 --> 31:06.460]  I mean, that's the thing that's recurring
in the base.
[31:06.580 --> 31:08.280]  But it's not that we don't want to do
that.
[31:08.780 --> 31:12.400]  And we might have the ability to do that a
lot easier once we get to the next year
[31:12.400 --> 31:13.880]  and we find out more what's going to
happen.
[31:14.460 --> 31:15.860]  But I'm just one person.
[31:15.940 --> 31:17.900]  I'm just gonna give you the landscape.
[31:18.260 --> 31:20.800]  I'm not saying I don't want to do
everything we've been doing in the past,
[31:20.920 --> 31:21.340]  but we should.
[31:22.040 --> 31:25.440]  But when we have millions of dollars,
that's millions of dollars less in
[31:25.440 --> 31:26.800]  property taxes that's coming in.
[31:27.200 --> 31:29.820]  And it started this year and it's going to
be next year too.
[31:30.500 --> 31:35.420]  And until that all evens out, we don't
have a lot of information on exactly where
[31:35.420 --> 31:35.920]  we're going to be.
[31:35.960 --> 31:37.780]  We're going to try to do the best we can
with what we got.
[31:43.080 --> 31:46.300]  You know, it's not all or nothing.
[31:46.540 --> 31:47.320]  You know what I mean?
[31:48.340 --> 31:54.220]  My concern is this long-going issue where
we fall further and further behind.
[31:56.730 --> 31:58.430]  That's my concern, long-term.
[31:59.070 --> 32:00.130]  It's not one year.
[32:00.390 --> 32:03.950]  It's a thing where you guys can sit here
and say, hey, this year, yeah,
[32:03.970 --> 32:05.650]  we understand that.
[32:06.030 --> 32:07.770]  We'll have a better grasp on it next year.
[32:07.770 --> 32:17.610]  Long term, we're going to have to raise
the income tax 0.4%, 4 tenths of a
[32:17.610 --> 32:17.790]  percent.
[32:17.870 --> 32:20.170]  And that's going to bring in millions more
dollars.
[32:20.410 --> 32:23.430]  The income tax, that's not a decision for
me to make.
[32:23.530 --> 32:27.090]  I'm just saying from a personnel side and
what they've made.
[32:28.150 --> 32:29.690]  That's why I'm here fighting this.
[32:30.150 --> 32:30.950]  I get it.
[32:31.010 --> 32:33.510]  I want to be able to go back to them and
say,
[32:47.970 --> 32:50.130]  The Senate Bill 1 may change next year.
[32:50.230 --> 32:50.430]  Right.
[32:50.530 --> 32:51.330]  It may change.
[32:52.590 --> 32:54.390]  The legislature could change too.
[32:54.690 --> 32:58.270]  But we know that we're going to have to
raise that income tax.
[32:58.310 --> 32:59.870]  And we know we're going to have more money
next year.
[32:59.970 --> 33:00.550]  We know that.
[33:00.650 --> 33:01.510]  And you can say that.
[33:22.790 --> 33:28.590]  It's an ongoing process and maybe as we go
through this we'll find you know I don't
[33:28.590 --> 33:32.270]  know the solution to it somehow,
but things have to kind of sort out right
[33:32.270 --> 33:37.590]  now because, again, we still don't want to
get in a situation where we're having this
[33:37.590 --> 33:43.410]  built into the base without additional
income and have a structural deficit every
[33:43.410 --> 33:44.070]  year for the county.
[33:44.350 --> 33:47.790]  That's not good government to have a
structural deficit every year because
[33:47.790 --> 33:50.610]  eventually we can't do anything if we do
that.
[33:50.770 --> 33:54.630]  And right now we have a structural deficit
than what we have on the table here.
[33:54.630 --> 33:55.830]  I said we could take it out of tax.
[33:55.950 --> 33:56.370]  Well, you can.
[33:56.510 --> 33:57.270]  You can take it out of tax.
[33:57.270 --> 33:58.470]  Yeah, by Sunday, just to be sure.
[33:58.530 --> 34:04.290]  But I would just say, though, Gene,
to him, though, is we want to take the
[34:04.290 --> 34:04.950]  sheriffs out of safety.
[34:04.990 --> 34:05.270]  Yeah.
[34:05.270 --> 34:07.090]  Because that's another fund that we want
to pay down.
[34:07.090 --> 34:07.450]  Any of them.
[34:08.690 --> 34:09.810]  There's all kinds of places.
[34:10.110 --> 34:13.510]  I don't agree with that, but that's okay.
[34:13.650 --> 34:15.510]  But we don't... I do agree with one thing.
[34:15.750 --> 34:18.990]  When you look at this budget, you think,
well, it's a million dollar deficit or
[34:18.990 --> 34:19.570]  like that.
[34:20.390 --> 34:21.950]  We don't have all of our information.
[34:22.250 --> 34:22.870]  We don't.
[34:22.870 --> 34:23.710]  We don't have our information.
[34:23.710 --> 34:25.010]  We don't even know that.
[34:25.090 --> 34:26.110]  It could be better, it could be worse.
[34:26.410 --> 34:29.890]  It could be some things like the health
insurance is going up.
[34:29.990 --> 34:32.350]  There are other factors that could affect
this.
[34:32.410 --> 34:35.390]  So we might come out a lot better than
what we know right now.
[34:35.510 --> 34:38.210]  Now, I don't have the figures in front of
me of exactly how much it was.
[34:38.350 --> 34:43.070]  But I do know that when I say personal
services, I'm talking about the wages for
[34:43.070 --> 34:45.610]  the road guys at the department,
at the sheriff's office.
[34:46.010 --> 34:49.130]  It was substantially lower than what it
was in 2007.
[34:49.950 --> 34:52.630]  It actually did not increase, it actually
decreased.
[35:05.130 --> 35:09.890]  I can get that bigger, but it's at my
office.
[35:10.030 --> 35:11.330]  I don't know, but I know it's...
[35:11.790 --> 35:13.110]  Could you get that to us?
[35:13.530 --> 35:15.830]  Well, we've got through June on here.
[35:16.550 --> 35:16.910]  Yeah.
[35:17.310 --> 35:18.170]  You know, we're okay.
[35:18.410 --> 35:20.790]  I can get it, just so you guys have more
information.
[35:26.570 --> 35:29.390]  Does anybody else have any notes on
theirs?
[35:31.330 --> 35:32.650]  Do you have anything else?
[35:33.870 --> 35:34.390]  Dave?
[35:34.530 --> 35:35.370]  No, that's it.
[35:36.710 --> 35:37.230]  Sheriff.
[35:43.190 --> 35:44.010]  Page 25.
[35:46.430 --> 35:49.530]  My argument on that one is going to be the
same for the sheriff's
[35:55.120 --> 35:55.240]  ticket.
[35:55.240 --> 35:57.040]  Okay, thank you.
[35:58.960 --> 36:00.180]  The jail meal...
[36:01.020 --> 36:01.340]  Sorry.
[36:04.040 --> 36:05.560]  What line are you?
[36:06.600 --> 36:10.200]  It's 10-700, 11-700, 32-700.
[36:16.840 --> 36:17.800]  Okay, yup.
[36:18.040 --> 36:21.060]  Request at 280, council proposed 250.
[36:25.400 --> 36:28.080]  Obviously this can change on what our
population is.
[36:29.380 --> 36:32.100]  $1.70 a meal, having my three meals a day.
[36:37.640 --> 36:41.480]  I may have to come back next year and ask
for more, depending on what the jail life
[36:41.480 --> 36:41.840]  looks like.
[36:42.160 --> 36:43.000]  That fluctuates.
[36:43.100 --> 36:44.040]  I think that's going to change.
[36:44.360 --> 36:44.900]  But it might.
[36:44.980 --> 36:46.280]  But that's normal for any company.
[36:46.340 --> 36:46.560]  It's good.
[36:47.000 --> 36:52.260]  But, I mean, I would be comfortable
dropping that down to $220 from your $250.
[36:53.600 --> 36:55.340]  Just with the figures that we have.
[36:55.820 --> 36:57.280]  I would leave it at $250.
[36:58.200 --> 36:59.620]  You get it back at the end.
[36:59.760 --> 37:00.780]  We'll get it back at the end.
[37:00.900 --> 37:01.120]  Right.
[37:01.120 --> 37:01.780]  I wouldn't bring it down.
[37:01.780 --> 37:06.300]  I would leave it at $2.50 just because,
one, I think that you could see an
[37:06.300 --> 37:11.280]  increase in, because of the increase in
groceries and things.
[37:11.420 --> 37:13.680]  I mean, from, are you under contract?
[37:15.360 --> 37:16.780]  Or that's just what the state pays you?
[37:16.780 --> 37:22.220]  I think we're under contract for the
actual meal list.
[37:22.620 --> 37:26.480]  As far as, like, the buying the food,
I don't think it's part of the contract.
[37:26.640 --> 37:29.980]  I think part of the contract is just what
we make on a daily.
[37:29.980 --> 37:31.360]  Okay, okay.
[37:32.240 --> 37:37.260]  Tell me about that.
[37:39.660 --> 37:42.420]  Okay, let's finish the 250s.
[37:42.420 --> 37:43.740]  Everybody agree to leave it at 250?
[37:45.060 --> 37:50.840]  Right, I'm just finishing that discussion
and then we'll go to what is it?
[37:50.980 --> 37:53.140]  You can buy your food from Mandimi in New
York.
[37:53.160 --> 37:53.760]  It's all free.
[37:56.760 --> 37:57.960]  No, we weren't going to vote.
[37:58.820 --> 38:01.160]  Okay, so what do you want to look at?
[38:01.180 --> 38:01.700]  Part-time nurse?
[38:01.960 --> 38:02.880]  Yeah, part-time nurse.
[38:03.240 --> 38:03.640]  Where's he?
[38:04.700 --> 38:06.120]  So you're leaving at 2.50?
[38:06.120 --> 38:06.940]  Bottom at 1.50.
[38:07.500 --> 38:07.880]  Yes.
[38:18.940 --> 38:20.720]  Tell me about the part-time nurse.
[38:22.100 --> 38:22.820]  How's that work?
[38:23.060 --> 38:23.460]  What's that?
[38:23.560 --> 38:24.160]  Who is that?
[38:24.840 --> 38:26.400]  Well, right now we don't have one.
[38:26.500 --> 38:33.090]  We've been in Scott County a long time.
[38:44.140 --> 38:46.960]  So does Cinderstone send nurse over or
something?
[38:47.320 --> 38:49.700]  No, we work through SHP, Southern Health
Partners.
[38:49.880 --> 38:55.840]  We pay our actual nurse from SHP
[39:00.280 --> 39:04.740]  $10,000 for a year, especially if we get
one.
[39:06.160 --> 39:09.500]  Can you bring us that proposal once you
find someone?
[39:09.960 --> 39:10.260]  Yes.
[39:26.860 --> 39:29.740]  Anybody else have anything on the jail?
[39:33.420 --> 39:35.280]  Yeah, there's one that medical contracts.
[39:35.460 --> 39:38.560]  Is that with Cinderstone or is that with
Nathan?
[39:38.700 --> 39:40.360]  No, that's HP Southern Health Park.
[39:40.520 --> 39:40.860]  Oh, okay.
[39:41.060 --> 39:43.600]  But the part-time nurses are paid through
Southern Health Park.
[39:43.660 --> 39:43.900]  Okay.
[39:56.240 --> 40:03.440]  So the one issue I've gotten aware of is
we've had Nathan Floyd as a mental health
[40:03.440 --> 40:04.760]  professional inside our jail.
[40:13.530 --> 40:16.570]  We've been paying for him out of our
medical contract.
[40:16.790 --> 40:17.290]  Is that correct?
[40:19.660 --> 40:20.180]  Yes.
[40:21.440 --> 40:24.780]  Well, we paid for him out of that and
there's another fund.
[40:25.060 --> 40:27.460]  But I see that increasing next year.
[40:27.720 --> 40:30.020]  Out of what funds were you paying for?
[40:30.740 --> 40:34.320]  So it doesn't say that, who it is and what
it is?
[40:34.440 --> 40:39.740]  No, because it would almost have to come
in an initial line.
[40:39.740 --> 40:41.160]  Well, it probably needs to be.
[40:41.880 --> 40:42.720]  That's what I'm saying.
[40:43.860 --> 40:47.560]  But the mental health stuff, from a
liability standpoint, Joe, we have to
[40:47.560 --> 40:48.160]  provide that.
[40:48.280 --> 40:54.020]  And we provide as much as what we can,
but Nathan is more of a one-on-one.
[40:54.700 --> 40:57.400]  He comes in daily, he's on call 24-7.
[40:57.540 --> 40:58.980]  He'll answer, he'll come in.
[41:01.280 --> 41:03.880]  I will get that proposal from Nathan to
you guys.
[41:03.880 --> 41:07.300]  This is always the discussion,
though.
[41:07.340 --> 41:10.140]  You do know that we're double-paying,
though, because we're paying a contract to
[41:10.140 --> 41:11.840]  Centerstone because the state mandates it.
[41:14.540 --> 41:17.000]  I just am letting the council be aware.
[41:17.520 --> 41:21.120]  I understand, and I've talked to Jim about
it.
[41:21.540 --> 41:24.120]  That same situation, the new judge.
[41:24.440 --> 41:25.700]  Yeah, it's actually...
[41:25.700 --> 41:27.500]  Because we're double-paying as...
[41:27.500 --> 41:28.420]  We're double-paying on the taxpayer.
[41:28.740 --> 41:29.100]  We are.
[41:29.280 --> 41:30.260]  But I understand...
[41:30.260 --> 41:31.860]  We understand your point of it.
[41:31.860 --> 41:37.080]  So, this happened a second year.
[41:37.280 --> 41:45.500]  The sinner's phone would get a grant to
pay for somebody and send them to the
[41:45.500 --> 41:45.780]  jail.
[41:45.980 --> 41:51.660]  And that somebody they would send was not
certified, not...
[41:54.380 --> 41:55.300]  I understand.
[41:55.500 --> 41:57.660]  There was no credentials backing this
person up.
[41:57.740 --> 42:02.280]  And that person was making decisions on
people's lives like taking you off suicide
[42:02.280 --> 42:02.680]  launch.
[42:03.180 --> 42:04.420]  That's a doctor's decision.
[42:04.700 --> 42:07.360]  That is not somebody else's decision.
[42:07.580 --> 42:09.800]  The biggest liability in a jail setting
is...
[42:09.800 --> 42:10.040]  Right.
[42:10.060 --> 42:11.400]  We didn't know what we didn't know.
[42:11.500 --> 42:17.040]  So then we had, after what had happened at
the court, we let somebody go.
[42:17.320 --> 42:23.820]  We got Nathan to do an audit.
[42:23.900 --> 42:27.200]  And he went through and found an
impression where this person was taking
[42:27.200 --> 42:28.120]  the person off suicide.
[42:29.000 --> 42:30.800]  We were the biggest liability.
[42:36.560 --> 42:38.680]  Will Centerstone not provide that service?
[42:39.420 --> 42:42.380]  Centerstone is... never use them.
[42:42.560 --> 42:44.400]  They will put you in jeopardy.
[42:44.480 --> 42:44.980]  I'm telling you that.
[42:44.980 --> 42:45.240]  Correct.
[42:45.240 --> 42:45.520]  Okay.
[42:45.640 --> 42:47.380]  So I'm not refuting that.
[42:48.040 --> 42:49.520]  I'm not refuting that.
[42:49.660 --> 42:55.680]  I just want the council to be aware that
the state mandates us to pay Centerstone
[42:55.680 --> 42:56.800]  whether we use them or not.
[42:56.980 --> 43:00.080]  So we're paying Centerstone on top of
Nathan Floyd.
[43:00.080 --> 43:04.760]  So, as I have spoken in the past,
and I won't be here next year,
[43:04.860 --> 43:11.360]  I would love to see somewhere where we've
called Centerstone some documentation,
[43:11.780 --> 43:15.920]  like what you're saying, that we can take
to our state legislatures that says,
[43:15.980 --> 43:16.820]  this is ridiculous.
[43:17.160 --> 43:20.640]  The taxpayers are paying for service.
[43:21.080 --> 43:23.280]  Yes, I've been trying to, I've said that
over and over again.
[43:23.440 --> 43:26.180]  The counties haven't been having mandatory
pay.
[43:26.180 --> 43:27.980]  We need you to help us do that.
[43:28.040 --> 43:29.940]  By calling them document they won't come
down.
[43:30.220 --> 43:31.280]  It wouldn't make any difference.
[43:31.280 --> 43:32.680]  I've been through all of it.
[43:32.740 --> 43:33.820]  You're not getting there in Centerstone.
[43:33.880 --> 43:34.700]  Centerstone is huge.
[43:35.060 --> 43:35.380]  It's huge.
[43:35.440 --> 43:36.460]  It's too political.
[43:36.660 --> 43:37.700]  Another thing, they got sued.
[43:37.840 --> 43:40.020]  Jefferson County sued them about ten years
ago.
[43:40.560 --> 43:41.360]  And they won.
[43:41.700 --> 43:44.580]  But then they had to use another firm just
like Centerstone.
[43:44.820 --> 43:47.080]  Yeah, there's only two in the state.
[43:47.180 --> 43:47.500]  Wellstone.
[43:49.780 --> 43:52.940]  You're still going to pay them $250,000,
$250,000 a year regardless.
[43:52.940 --> 43:56.800]  I wish there was a way that you would take
Nathan, but I've heard nothing but good
[43:56.800 --> 43:57.220]  things about him.
[43:57.220 --> 43:58.040]  I know Nathan's good.
[43:58.920 --> 44:02.300]  His, whatever he charges, out of
Centerstone's favor is not going to
[44:02.300 --> 44:02.580]  happen.
[44:02.860 --> 44:06.920]  In all honesty, I would like Nathan to
come to a council meeting and explain to
[44:06.920 --> 44:07.580]  you what he does.
[44:07.720 --> 44:10.280]  Because it coming through me, it's not
going to mean as much as...
[44:10.280 --> 44:12.580]  It wouldn't make any difference,
Cody.
[44:12.880 --> 44:14.680]  He can explain it all day long.
[44:15.940 --> 44:17.080]  It doesn't matter.
[44:17.440 --> 44:19.300]  What it matters is that we're...
[44:20.300 --> 44:25.180]  It's actually illegal to do it,
but we've been doing it anyway,
[44:25.400 --> 44:28.660]  to have Nathan in there with Sitterstone.
[44:28.800 --> 44:29.800]  Well, that's what we were...
[44:29.800 --> 44:31.400]  Sitterstone does not belong in your jail.
[44:31.920 --> 44:33.440]  I get what you're saying.
[44:33.500 --> 44:34.400]  We don't have to listen.
[44:34.640 --> 44:36.340]  We are not contributing to that.
[44:36.440 --> 44:38.800]  You guys may be, and you might have...
[44:38.800 --> 44:39.760]  We wouldn't want to do that.
[44:39.800 --> 44:40.840]  We wouldn't want to get in that battle.
[44:40.840 --> 44:43.780]  Is Sitterstone retained by the county
specifically?
[44:44.000 --> 44:44.660]  By the state.
[44:46.140 --> 44:48.340]  Right, but we pay them, the county does.
[44:48.900 --> 44:52.580]  Is there a specific job at RJ?
[44:53.940 --> 44:54.960]  That's what it is.
[44:55.020 --> 44:56.320]  They're supposed to be at RJ.
[44:56.900 --> 44:58.960]  I'd like to see the documentation on that.
[44:59.480 --> 45:02.440]  I don't think that's completely true.
[45:03.020 --> 45:06.400]  Well, we've fought it and fought it and
fought it.
[45:06.500 --> 45:09.660]  And again, I sat down with Jim last week
and we talked about it again.
[45:09.940 --> 45:11.260]  Because he's aware of it too.
[45:11.520 --> 45:13.140]  And I think he'd like to see some changes
too.
[45:13.140 --> 45:18.660]  We have no say in that.
[45:18.800 --> 45:23.560]  We get a bill, and I talk to people from
Greensburg, and they're like, we're not
[45:23.560 --> 45:23.960]  paying it.
[45:24.080 --> 45:25.520]  Well, they didn't pay it.
[45:25.540 --> 45:25.940]  Well, guess what?
[45:25.980 --> 45:29.860]  Then you get a fine because the state is
contracted with Centerstone.
[45:30.100 --> 45:33.880]  I was under the impression that the county
had to provide mental health services for
[45:33.880 --> 45:36.380]  the community, not specifically the jail.
[45:37.420 --> 45:39.280]  That's where I want to see the
stipulation.
[45:42.560 --> 45:50.460]  It's for the community, but that
population of the community is in the
[45:50.460 --> 45:50.700]  jail.
[45:58.340 --> 45:59.580]  We love Nathan.
[46:01.280 --> 46:06.090]  We love Nathan.
[46:06.310 --> 46:07.530]  We know we're double dipping.
[46:07.690 --> 46:08.810]  That's what aggravates us.
[46:08.970 --> 46:10.990]  We're looking from the money side.
[46:10.990 --> 46:13.410]  Right, we've got to figure out the money
side of it.
[46:13.830 --> 46:16.150]  What line do you currently pay him from on
the budget?
[46:16.290 --> 46:17.250]  What line do you pay him from?
[46:17.530 --> 46:19.650]  The medical contract has another line.
[46:20.750 --> 46:21.550]  Do you need it?
[46:21.830 --> 46:26.010]  Would it be better to have an actual staff
person line for that service?
[46:26.230 --> 46:28.270]  I think that would be tremendous.
[46:29.330 --> 46:29.950]  I've been there.
[46:30.030 --> 46:33.010]  I told him in action and I know what he
does.
[46:33.350 --> 46:35.470]  I'd like to set the $14,500 to be the main
one.
[46:35.670 --> 46:37.390]  We would be able to track that better.
[46:37.550 --> 46:38.190]  I think so.
[46:38.190 --> 46:40.250]  If you would make that a line item.
[46:40.410 --> 46:42.310]  And he's a contract employee.
[46:43.270 --> 46:45.450]  Would you propose that as a line item
then?
[46:45.550 --> 46:46.090]  I would.
[46:46.230 --> 46:49.070]  I think it would be a lot easier to follow
and it would be a lot easier to...
[46:49.070 --> 46:50.050]  It would be a lot cleaner, wouldn't it?
[46:50.270 --> 46:52.550]  Are you going to try to do that for next
year's budget?
[46:52.830 --> 46:53.190]  Yes.
[46:53.470 --> 46:54.390]  I think we should.
[46:55.490 --> 46:58.590]  I'll get some information to email you
guys regarding his...
[46:59.910 --> 47:00.310]  Okay.
[47:00.310 --> 47:00.870]  Thanks, Kevin.
[47:03.090 --> 47:04.110]  I'll find one.
[47:28.410 --> 47:30.150]  Just to be sure I'm clear.
[47:30.310 --> 47:32.150]  So how much are you paying, Nathan?
[47:32.410 --> 47:33.750]  Or is that something you're...
[47:33.750 --> 47:37.290]  Right now, yeah, I mean, it's proposed for
2027.
[47:37.690 --> 47:39.050]  So right now...
[47:39.050 --> 47:40.070]  In that line?
[47:46.710 --> 47:50.010]  We can adjust this line to get what his
pay is.
[47:54.410 --> 47:54.850]  Right.
[47:54.850 --> 47:56.490]  So we can reduce this line.
[47:57.290 --> 47:58.110]  That's what he said.
[47:58.690 --> 48:00.270]  Two different lines.
[48:01.110 --> 48:02.350]  We'll use another line.
[48:02.430 --> 48:03.450]  We have two different areas.
[48:03.850 --> 48:05.990]  Okay, so is he being paid from here?
[48:06.870 --> 48:08.570]  There's two lines he can pay out.
[48:09.010 --> 48:11.090]  He's being paid from there and he's being
paid from the other.
[48:11.630 --> 48:12.070]  Okay.
[48:13.310 --> 48:15.030]  And he's also being handed to the court.
[48:15.030 --> 48:16.770]  So, we wouldn't want to get that.
[48:16.830 --> 48:18.550]  We're just focusing on the jail.
[48:18.690 --> 48:25.830]  So, he was also working with, I believe,
Ellie on some other program that a grant
[48:25.830 --> 48:26.570]  would pay him.
[48:26.810 --> 48:28.910]  And that would also fund part of it.
[48:29.030 --> 48:30.550]  I don't know that that might have proved.
[48:30.710 --> 48:32.570]  I think he ended up resigning.
[48:32.810 --> 48:33.890]  He got away from that.
[48:33.990 --> 48:34.990]  He don't do that anymore.
[48:36.130 --> 48:38.350]  Just work now and focus on this right
here.
[48:38.530 --> 48:42.490]  Yeah, his only one for us would be a line
item here would be that.
[48:42.490 --> 48:44.190]  Yeah, perfect.
[48:45.550 --> 48:50.430]  But all the mislinked services,
like it's 1170 up here, the 7250,
[48:50.750 --> 48:52.930]  that kind of stuff, I just need to know
what that is.
[48:53.850 --> 48:54.250]  No.
[48:54.350 --> 48:55.530]  Just mislinked services.
[48:57.230 --> 48:57.990]  On the jail?
[48:58.190 --> 48:58.650]  Uh-huh.
[48:58.710 --> 49:03.430]  It would be the same thing as for the
sheriff's.
[49:03.550 --> 49:04.430]  That's what I figured.
[49:04.730 --> 49:05.930]  It would be the same thing.
[49:05.950 --> 49:06.310]  Moving out.
[49:06.510 --> 49:06.950]  It would be quite often.
[49:07.890 --> 49:09.990]  We've just got to spell that out,
what that is.
[49:12.590 --> 49:14.330]  Do you have any other questions on jail?
[49:14.470 --> 49:14.790]  I'm sorry.
[49:15.590 --> 49:16.810]  Anybody else have anything?
[49:19.750 --> 49:25.970]  The jail repair monitor that you had
proposed was a $7,000 decrease on that.
[49:27.390 --> 49:29.850]  Those... I'll let him speak on a little
bit on what monitors...
[49:29.850 --> 49:30.590]  I'm looking for that.
[49:30.630 --> 49:31.190]  ... within the jail.
[49:31.530 --> 49:31.970]  Okay.
[49:32.310 --> 49:38.090]  And kind of an emergency purchase on
something like that that we would need to
[49:38.090 --> 49:38.150]  do.
[49:44.450 --> 49:46.790]  It's on page 26, the repair monitors.
[49:47.470 --> 49:48.830]  If you guys want to go to that.
[49:49.030 --> 49:49.250]  Thank you.
[49:52.710 --> 49:56.190]  So basically, you never know when you're
going to do the monitoring.
[49:56.270 --> 49:56.970]  Everything we got
[50:00.740 --> 50:01.360]  here was paper.
[50:01.700 --> 50:08.720]  We just got a new in-jail system through
the Supreme Court.
[50:09.560 --> 50:12.920]  It does our hook-ins, it does our
releases, it does all that.
[50:13.360 --> 50:15.240]  They actually gave us five new monitors.
[50:31.460 --> 50:35.820]  That's why we want you to come back and
ask.
[50:36.040 --> 50:39.060]  If you need it, you can come and ask us.
[50:39.260 --> 50:39.920]  How much is one?
[50:42.820 --> 50:46.080]  A good one you can get for roughly 200
bucks.
[50:46.080 --> 50:46.500]  Yeah.
[51:11.380 --> 51:12.240]  That's what's in there.
[51:12.580 --> 51:15.060]  And then you can come back.
[51:15.380 --> 51:19.840]  If we use all that, I may come back and
see if we can appropriate some and do it
[51:19.840 --> 51:21.260]  in case we need it.
[51:21.340 --> 51:21.660]  Sure.
[51:23.460 --> 51:26.840]  If you guys are okay with doing that,
I'm good with $1,000.
[51:27.320 --> 51:30.320]  If we use that or we get down to where
it's $200 in there,
[51:38.850 --> 51:42.390]  The reason we're dropping all those like
that is because we're wanting you to come
[51:42.390 --> 51:43.050]  back in here.
[51:43.370 --> 51:45.670]  So we can get a handle on what's going on.
[51:47.550 --> 51:49.050]  And try to balance the budget.
[51:49.050 --> 51:49.910]  And balance it out.
[51:50.030 --> 51:54.850]  Anything else, Tony?
[51:55.710 --> 51:57.770]  No, just personal stuff.
[51:58.070 --> 52:00.330]  Okay, thank you.
[52:00.350 --> 52:01.250]  Anybody else have anything?
[52:01.730 --> 52:02.790]  No, thank you so much.
[52:03.630 --> 52:04.590]  Thank you.
[52:17.870 --> 52:19.210]  What page is it Jerry?
[52:19.910 --> 52:21.250]  15, I think, administration.
[52:22.390 --> 52:23.090]  What page is it?
[52:26.870 --> 52:27.270]  15.
[52:29.410 --> 52:31.590]  Yep, the matrix and all that.
[52:31.790 --> 52:32.190]  Okay.
[52:34.290 --> 52:36.190]  What do you want to talk about on that,
Cody?
[52:45.390 --> 52:47.730]  Do you have any notes on the business?
[52:49.510 --> 52:52.010]  Postage and printing and that kind of
stuff.
[52:52.710 --> 52:54.130]  We had some on that.
[52:59.130 --> 53:00.670]  See, that's what that is showing.
[53:01.030 --> 53:01.550]  Yep.
[53:02.750 --> 53:04.150]  On the front page.
[53:10.450 --> 53:11.810]  It tells you everything.
[53:11.810 --> 53:13.730]  Right, but I'm not sure.
[53:13.810 --> 53:14.050]  Okay.
[53:28.230 --> 53:31.670]  Well, like the printing, I think you had
$3,000 in there.
[53:31.970 --> 53:34.030]  And we knocked it down to $1,200.
[53:38.250 --> 53:40.590]  And the postage, I think you had...
[53:40.590 --> 53:43.670]  We knocked it down, but we knocked $500
off the postage.
[53:44.090 --> 53:45.490]  Just so you're seeing that, right?
[53:47.270 --> 53:49.610]  If you need more, you're going to come
back and ask us.
[53:50.850 --> 53:55.390]  It's a little bit, but we're doing that
through the whole county to try to balance
[53:55.390 --> 53:55.830]  our budget.
[54:06.070 --> 54:07.250]  Alright, thanks Cody.
[54:07.430 --> 54:07.910]  Appreciate you.
[54:12.430 --> 54:14.070]  Who's going to be here for the highway
department?
[54:14.510 --> 54:14.950]  Matt.
[54:16.110 --> 54:18.910]  Matt will be here, and I think Shane's
coming in also.
[54:19.170 --> 54:21.050]  Okay, I'm going to get that brought up.
[54:25.940 --> 54:26.600]  I know.
[54:37.020 --> 54:37.820]  Easy, that's all.
[54:52.820 --> 54:53.920]  You won't let you.
[54:54.080 --> 54:54.980]  I agree.
[54:55.240 --> 54:58.580]  I'm saying, if you're painting him from
that line, you're going to create his own
[54:58.580 --> 54:58.940]  line.
[54:59.620 --> 55:01.020]  Then we can, yes, yes.
[55:01.020 --> 55:02.180]  You cut that line down.
[55:02.500 --> 55:02.940]  Yes.
[55:03.560 --> 55:04.000]  Substantial.
[55:04.140 --> 55:05.180]  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
[55:05.320 --> 55:06.160]  Those two lines.
[55:06.380 --> 55:07.300]  Just an offset.
[55:07.560 --> 55:07.940]  A lot.
[55:08.040 --> 55:08.520]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[55:08.840 --> 55:09.480]  That's what I asked.
[55:10.040 --> 55:11.060]  That's what we're doing.
[55:11.060 --> 55:12.120]  How much do we pay him?
[55:12.240 --> 55:13.020]  Does anybody know?
[55:13.200 --> 55:14.040]  No, we don't care about that.
[55:14.040 --> 55:14.660]  That's what we're doing.
[55:14.820 --> 55:15.380]  We're cutting those two.
[55:15.640 --> 55:16.720]  No, he don't know either.
[55:16.920 --> 55:18.400]  They haven't got their proposal yet.
[55:19.360 --> 55:20.600]  But no, that's what we were saying.
[55:20.700 --> 55:22.440]  Those two lines in, he's getting paid out
of them.
[55:22.860 --> 55:25.340]  Once we figure out what that number is,
those two get reduced.
[55:25.840 --> 55:26.020]  Yeah.
[55:26.360 --> 55:26.720]  Okay.
[55:27.200 --> 55:28.040]  That's pretty simple.
[55:28.240 --> 55:28.680]  That's not...
[55:28.680 --> 55:29.340]  Okay.
[55:29.500 --> 55:30.640]  They... yeah.
[55:31.780 --> 55:32.620]  That would be automatic.
[55:33.740 --> 55:34.500]  You leaving already?
[55:34.780 --> 55:35.040]  No.
[55:35.160 --> 55:35.840]  He's coming right here.
[55:36.000 --> 55:36.900]  I want to go out.
[55:37.080 --> 55:38.200]  My brain's already fried.
[55:38.420 --> 55:38.700]  Yeah.
[55:40.360 --> 55:44.060]  Oh, something I probably don't know if I
need to tell you.
[55:44.360 --> 55:47.340]  And I get required, and I still don't
quite understand.
[55:47.780 --> 55:49.140]  That's all that's going to happen.
[55:49.660 --> 55:50.540]  Don't come back.
[56:40.880 --> 56:41.320]  He
[56:47.200 --> 56:48.260]  was trying to make me understand.
[56:48.460 --> 56:54.860]  On the 26th of November, it's three
numbers, 64 days, 365 days a year.
[56:55.200 --> 56:59.020]  So every 11 years, we've got to catch it
over seven years.
[56:59.040 --> 57:04.880]  In December, we had three weeks of that
day.
[57:05.560 --> 57:08.900]  But we've got the same amount of contract
that we get.
[58:04.250 --> 58:05.690]  Hey Charlie, how are you?
[58:06.370 --> 58:07.370]  I'm good, thanks.
[58:18.890 --> 58:20.650]  I'm taking my Jeep down to Jeep Nation.
[58:20.650 --> 58:20.890]  I'm a nation.
[58:21.550 --> 58:23.370]  I'm a thousand.
[58:23.530 --> 58:24.590]  It's already started in.
[58:24.870 --> 58:26.310]  Just a girlfriend.
[58:26.670 --> 58:28.350]  We rented a house.
[58:28.850 --> 58:32.830]  And so my gal was calling me to tell me
that she'd have it ready by noon.
[58:32.870 --> 58:33.530]  I'm like, that's good.
[58:33.570 --> 58:34.910]  I can leave early.
[58:35.230 --> 58:35.730]  Where's it at?
[58:36.510 --> 58:37.290]  Pigeon Forge.
[58:37.750 --> 58:40.350]  And so it's like, all week long.
[58:41.530 --> 58:43.310]  Thousands and thousands and thousands.
[58:43.490 --> 58:46.070]  And it'll be you know, drives and...
[58:46.070 --> 58:46.610]  All jeeps.
[58:46.610 --> 58:47.430]  All teams.
[58:47.470 --> 58:48.290]  All teams.
[58:48.650 --> 58:49.250]  Yeah.
[58:51.410 --> 58:53.810]  Which I have really enjoyed, Mom.
[58:58.390 --> 59:03.410]  There's a built-in break from level 13 to
level 3.
[59:04.690 --> 59:05.750]  Yeah, I don't know.
[59:05.890 --> 59:10.770]  They told me originally that they didn't
want me here for all of this, so I'm
[59:10.770 --> 59:11.670]  playing higher.
[59:25.650 --> 59:27.410]  Have you played much music?
[59:27.490 --> 59:28.690]  Because I haven't got to Dudleytown.
[59:28.970 --> 59:33.070]  We've been all over, but we haven't...
we've got a long tour on Thursday night.
[59:33.690 --> 59:35.630]  Next month I'll play a couple times.
[59:35.750 --> 59:37.630]  Send it to me.
[59:37.790 --> 59:38.370]  It's too much stuff.
[59:38.750 --> 59:39.230]  I know.
[59:41.510 --> 59:43.030]  I'm getting too old, too.
[59:44.170 --> 59:44.650]  Listen.
[59:44.910 --> 59:45.970]  I've got to sleep.
[59:46.210 --> 59:46.910]  I've got kids.
[59:47.930 --> 59:49.830]  I do remember those days.
[59:51.410 --> 59:54.650]  Yes, I understand what you're saying,
but...
[59:54.650 --> 59:57.070]  You're on a banana peel every time I see
you.
[01:00:00.370 --> 01:00:00.850]  We...
[01:00:00.850 --> 01:00:02.590]  It's 2 o'clock now, it's just...
[01:00:03.730 --> 01:00:06.210]  I mean, it's twice my age, and it's
just...
[01:00:07.250 --> 01:00:08.450]  What do you guys do?
[01:00:10.790 --> 01:00:13.790]  Listen, let me tell you about my week at
New South Wales.
[01:00:13.970 --> 01:00:18.210]  So, on Thursdays I usually do music at
Lawrenceburg, and then these girls that
[01:00:18.210 --> 01:00:23.050]  I'm on boards with uptown, When I was
turning 40, and they're like, are you
[01:00:23.050 --> 01:00:23.630]  coming to Madison?
[01:00:24.090 --> 01:00:27.530]  And I'm like, no, I said, it's 12.
[01:00:27.650 --> 01:00:29.050]  I'm like, it's going to be all couples.
[01:00:29.150 --> 01:00:30.050]  I don't want to go couples.
[01:00:30.190 --> 01:00:31.310]  And they're like, no, it's 12 girls.
[01:00:31.370 --> 01:00:32.570]  They're in a house, six bedrooms.
[01:00:33.530 --> 01:00:36.410]  Kid you not, started at 2 o'clock that
afternoon.
[01:00:36.750 --> 01:00:37.750]  They were still going.
[01:00:43.650 --> 01:00:45.770]  Still going.
[01:00:46.510 --> 01:00:49.210]  Still going.
[01:00:51.870 --> 01:00:56.530]  I'm like, I can't.
[01:00:57.630 --> 01:00:58.390]  I can't.
[01:00:58.930 --> 01:00:59.690]  I can't.
[01:01:02.330 --> 01:01:05.210]  Oh, my God.
[01:01:05.570 --> 01:01:06.830]  I'm ready to go back to school.
[01:01:07.150 --> 01:01:10.490]  So, last week, I had plastic bags in my
house.
[01:01:12.190 --> 01:01:16.050]  You couldn't pick up the bag in the
kitchen, right?
[01:01:17.890 --> 01:01:18.430]  Right?
[01:01:23.820 --> 01:01:25.120]  Now I'm 60.
[01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:26.440]  I can't do that.
[01:01:26.560 --> 01:01:27.580]  I went home.
[01:01:28.340 --> 01:01:32.420]  What are you going to do?
[01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:37.860]  Right,
[01:01:56.580 --> 01:01:57.360]  right, right.
[01:01:57.420 --> 01:02:00.180]  I can't work around everybody's schedule.
[01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:16.160]  It's so hard to get a wife.
[01:02:39.200 --> 01:02:41.140]  I can't talk to her about it.
[01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.260]  Right, right, right, right.
[01:02:45.340 --> 01:02:46.060]  It'll be good.
[01:02:46.160 --> 01:02:48.260]  I just can't wait for her to be here.
[01:02:49.740 --> 01:02:51.040]  We're doing it on a Sunday.
[01:02:51.640 --> 01:02:53.180]  So we're doing it on a Sunday,
I promise.
[01:03:23.180 --> 01:03:31.480]  A lot of people are doing weddings on
Sunday and Friday, in general,
[01:03:31.720 --> 01:03:33.240]  because of the cost of it.
[01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.700]  I know, but Sunday is like, you know,
everybody has to go back to work on
[01:03:41.700 --> 01:03:44.940]  Monday, so if it's an out of town
wedding...
[01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:46.820]  I'm seeing that trend, though.
[01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:48.940]  I'm seeing that they're doing it on a
Sunday.
[01:03:48.940 --> 01:03:48.940]  Sunday.
[01:03:53.380 --> 01:03:59.240]  Which is funny, because they're doing that
with money, but funerals, if you have it
[01:03:59.240 --> 01:04:00.480]  on a Sunday, it's time to have it.
[01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:04.640]  If you have it on a weekend or a holiday,
it's time to have it.
[01:04:05.140 --> 01:04:08.580]  You could charge more for a weekend or a
holiday for a family.
[01:04:09.340 --> 01:04:10.760]  But if you have a wedding, it's more.
[01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:13.580]  Isn't that crazy?
[01:04:21.460 --> 01:04:21.980]  Yeah.
[01:04:24.080 --> 01:04:26.260]  Right, right.
[01:04:26.660 --> 01:04:30.560]  And a lot of Friday nights too,
you know, for weddings, which rushes
[01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:31.020]  people in.
[01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:33.100]  Yes, yes.
[01:04:37.120 --> 01:04:38.760]  It's crazy, it's crazy.
[01:05:03.330 --> 01:05:10.290]  It's really... it's really these next
three weeks of advertisements.
[01:05:10.910 --> 01:05:12.610]  We've already advertised the budget.
[01:05:13.230 --> 01:05:13.990]  Really?
[01:05:52.220 --> 01:05:53.680]  Jerry, what have you been up to?
[01:05:54.500 --> 01:05:55.380]  Just working.
[01:05:55.600 --> 01:05:57.440]  I'm going home to get a sweater.
[01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:04.220]  Well, you want me to go out in the car and
get a blanket for you?
[01:06:04.600 --> 01:06:06.260]  No, but I've got one in my car.
[01:06:34.860 --> 01:06:36.840]  They're still discussing it in the hallway
out there.
[01:06:37.560 --> 01:06:42.220]  It ends up being the same number.
[01:06:43.560 --> 01:06:43.920]  Right.
[01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:44.080]  All right.
[01:06:49.900 --> 01:06:51.300]  Yes.
[01:06:52.460 --> 01:06:53.760]  .
[01:07:10.490 --> 01:07:16.150]  I'm talking about just the .
[01:07:20.790 --> 01:07:25.640]  It makes me no difference.
[01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.140]  We'll go ahead and get started if you want
to.
[01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:02.660]  If you're ready.
[01:08:02.740 --> 01:08:04.180]  If you're not, you've got about five more
minutes.
[01:08:04.200 --> 01:08:05.180]  Who's coming with you guys?
[01:08:05.740 --> 01:08:07.020]  Okay, we'll wait for him then.
[01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:08.180]  Is this highway budget we're doing?
[01:08:08.420 --> 01:08:09.000]  Highway, yeah.
[01:08:09.340 --> 01:08:10.040]  How are you doing?
[01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:10.920]  Alright, how are you doing?
[01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:11.340]  Getting high.
[01:08:14.060 --> 01:08:16.760]  We just decided for one year to suspend
all highway payments.
[01:08:17.780 --> 01:08:18.880]  That'd get us back on top.
[01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:19.640]  Save some money.
[01:08:19.820 --> 01:08:20.340]  Save some money.
[01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:29.740]  More signs for the council, every roll is
safe.
[01:08:29.740 --> 01:08:30.200]  Roll close.
[01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:32.160]  You don't have to do any more of that.
[01:08:32.340 --> 01:08:33.080]  This is practice.
[01:08:35.220 --> 01:08:36.060]  He won't read it.
[01:08:36.380 --> 01:08:37.320]  He won't read it.
[01:08:37.320 --> 01:08:37.740]  Look at it.
[01:08:37.860 --> 01:08:39.080]  Too much preservative for you.
[01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:47.680]  Has there ever been considered maybe to
contract with farmers for snow removal?
[01:09:07.830 --> 01:09:12.010]  I mean, you couldn't have them as an
independent contractor with it.
[01:09:12.110 --> 01:09:12.730]  I didn't know.
[01:09:12.790 --> 01:09:15.190]  I just... I mean, rather than...
[01:09:16.450 --> 01:09:20.990]  That's probably my biggest complaint that
I could get, ever, is road signs.
[01:09:20.990 --> 01:09:21.510]  Yeah.
[01:09:21.990 --> 01:09:27.590]  I mean, if you had one do 10 miles by his
place, because in the winter, or even the
[01:09:27.590 --> 01:09:30.210]  summer when the crops are in, they're
like, you know, like this here,
[01:09:30.310 --> 01:09:31.290]  a little extra income.
[01:09:31.450 --> 01:09:33.490]  I just wondered, they have their own
equipment, their own everything.
[01:09:34.310 --> 01:09:35.790]  It may not be feasible.
[01:09:35.930 --> 01:09:39.450]  I was just wondering, why did we not do
that, help out our local people,
[01:09:39.670 --> 01:09:42.630]  and save employees' benefits and
equipment?
[01:09:44.850 --> 01:09:49.030]  If we did that, we would reduce the amount
of people working for the county highway.
[01:09:50.150 --> 01:09:52.810]  Probably cut the overtime down almost as
much as possible.
[01:09:52.870 --> 01:09:52.930]  That's true.
[01:09:53.870 --> 01:09:58.290]  I have gotten a lot of compliments over
what my new tractor is doing, so again,
[01:09:58.430 --> 01:09:58.850]  thank you.
[01:09:59.950 --> 01:10:00.770]  You needed that.
[01:10:00.950 --> 01:10:03.070]  Where it's been, everybody's having it.
[01:10:03.290 --> 01:10:05.730]  Is that the one that was at 20-24,
but it's still brand new?
[01:10:06.070 --> 01:10:07.010]  20-23.
[01:10:07.370 --> 01:10:08.770]  20-23 and it's still brand new.
[01:10:09.430 --> 01:10:10.590]  It's been cutting her back, hasn't it?
[01:10:10.750 --> 01:10:12.190]  You can tell when you come down the road.
[01:10:16.950 --> 01:10:19.750]  I'm so happy that he paid my road.
[01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:22.210]  I've been here 35 years, this is the first
time it's been paid.
[01:10:22.330 --> 01:10:25.410]  It's been chip and sealed, but... no.
[01:10:33.110 --> 01:10:36.190]  You made it hard on Gene and I because
they said we only got to pay it because
[01:10:36.190 --> 01:10:37.130]  the two of us live on it.
[01:10:37.730 --> 01:10:40.950]  We got all this grief from the other
people around us.
[01:10:44.290 --> 01:10:47.370]  So, are they complaining that they have to
burp up out of their driveway or
[01:10:47.370 --> 01:10:47.550]  something?
[01:10:49.330 --> 01:10:50.330]  The drop-off?
[01:10:56.550 --> 01:10:57.610]  I'm just thrilled.
[01:10:57.830 --> 01:10:59.390]  I mean, I do that a little bit now.
[01:10:59.390 --> 01:11:00.630]  It's like, that's so nice.
[01:11:01.690 --> 01:11:04.510]  But before, it was like, it was plain
nice, but now it's all the same.
[01:11:05.350 --> 01:11:08.250]  Did you cut some of the grass closer up
there on the side?
[01:11:08.890 --> 01:11:11.330]  We cut some of the grass closer where we
live up to on the side.
[01:11:12.690 --> 01:11:17.310]  I tried to get it a bit there,
but my lawn mower kind of has a curve to
[01:11:17.310 --> 01:11:17.390]  it.
[01:11:17.590 --> 01:11:20.090]  I can't get some of that high stuff in my
lawn mower.
[01:11:21.950 --> 01:11:23.690]  We used to have a lot of cut down there.
[01:11:24.130 --> 01:11:26.830]  But the RMC came through.
[01:11:29.110 --> 01:11:30.170]  It's all grown back up?
[01:11:30.350 --> 01:11:31.030]  Yeah, it is.
[01:11:31.790 --> 01:11:32.310]  I think it will.
[01:11:32.510 --> 01:11:33.370]  It's part of the game.
[01:11:35.230 --> 01:11:35.910]  Oh, I know.
[01:11:36.010 --> 01:11:36.450]  I'm in here too.
[01:11:36.750 --> 01:11:39.550]  When they did that, June, they came
through and they cut down some trees on my
[01:11:39.550 --> 01:11:41.070]  property that I didn't want to cut.
[01:11:41.470 --> 01:11:43.290]  I had some pine trees that were up.
[01:11:43.410 --> 01:11:44.510]  In the right way, I guess.
[01:11:44.530 --> 01:11:45.890]  And they cut them down.
[01:11:46.490 --> 01:11:48.030]  I said, why did you cut my trees down?
[01:11:48.110 --> 01:11:50.890]  Well, they were about ten feet from the
power line.
[01:11:50.990 --> 01:11:53.690]  I said, ten feet and a pine tree is not
going to help.
[01:11:54.670 --> 01:11:56.050]  Well, we just want to make sure.
[01:11:56.130 --> 01:11:57.410]  I said, well, why did you ask me for that?
[01:11:58.010 --> 01:12:00.050]  Well, we didn't think about that.
[01:12:11.090 --> 01:12:14.210]  You ready to go, Mr. Sporlater?
[01:12:14.450 --> 01:12:14.970]  Let's rock and roll.
[01:12:15.370 --> 01:12:17.030]  Okay, well, I guess.
[01:12:18.910 --> 01:12:21.550]  You said that one had your school vaults
on it.
[01:12:21.590 --> 01:12:22.390]  We want to ask you a question.
[01:12:22.650 --> 01:12:23.170]  All right.
[01:12:26.050 --> 01:12:27.170]  One-handed doorknob.
[01:12:29.110 --> 01:12:32.350]  Tell us, bring your concerns to us.
[01:12:33.050 --> 01:12:36.910]  We need the engineering fees back.
[01:12:37.310 --> 01:12:38.830]  What page were you at?
[01:12:39.310 --> 01:12:41.330]  Page 35.
[01:12:41.850 --> 01:12:42.450]  35?
[01:12:42.810 --> 01:12:44.210]  Oh, I want to be closer.
[01:12:45.450 --> 01:12:46.630]  I don't have a page 35.
[01:12:46.630 --> 01:12:47.410]  We don't have a 35.
[01:12:48.350 --> 01:12:49.590]  Give me the fund number.
[01:12:51.410 --> 01:12:52.870]  Fund number is
[01:13:08.140 --> 01:13:10.740]  I'll give you an example of why that's
important.
[01:13:11.540 --> 01:13:24.160]  There were some mistakes made last year on
the date on the CCMG requirements and a
[01:13:24.160 --> 01:13:28.820]  deadline about got missed and if it
wouldn't have been for several people
[01:13:28.820 --> 01:13:31.800]  working diligently late into the night on
a Friday night.
[01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.080]  Tim Hunt actually helped us with that.
[01:13:39.540 --> 01:13:41.960]  And that's one of those engineering fees.
[01:13:42.160 --> 01:13:43.740]  That's just an emergency situation.
[01:13:43.740 --> 01:13:48.340]  We would have lost $500,000 in CCMG money.
[01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:53.780]  But besides that, you know, like these big
rainstorms, if they wash out a small
[01:13:53.780 --> 01:13:56.040]  structure or whatever, we've got to have
somebody there.
[01:13:56.940 --> 01:13:58.860]  I mean, so we can't have that empty room.
[01:13:59.100 --> 01:14:00.580]  We have to have engineering fees.
[01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.980]  Unless you just want us to come to you
every time that we...
[01:14:03.980 --> 01:14:07.900]  Well, isn't that what you're wanting to
do?
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:08.160]  Yeah.
[01:14:08.660 --> 01:14:13.520]  It's because otherwise it's just sitting
there and anybody you hire, you're not
[01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.440]  going to, they're going to bill you.
[01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.960]  So you're going to have time to get that
additional appropriation.
[01:14:18.200 --> 01:14:18.560]  Yeah.
[01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:20.920]  Instead of it just sitting there.
[01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:22.960]  Is that what you're thinking?
[01:14:23.100 --> 01:14:24.240]  Yeah, that's what we're thinking.
[01:14:24.420 --> 01:14:26.100]  If you need it, you just come and ask us.
[01:14:26.500 --> 01:14:26.660]  Yeah.
[01:14:26.740 --> 01:14:31.580]  Anything you see these cuts, just so you
know, we want to start down the foundation
[01:14:31.580 --> 01:14:32.300]  and grow back.
[01:14:32.440 --> 01:14:33.960]  We want to, I got to see what's going on.
[01:14:37.060 --> 01:14:38.680]  I'm perfectly fine with that.
[01:14:38.700 --> 01:14:43.840]  The only thing that I worry a little bit
about that is, you know, some of them are
[01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:44.320]  doing what they're doing.
[01:14:54.510 --> 01:14:57.270]  I'm perfectly fine with it as long as we
can meet all the...
[01:14:57.270 --> 01:15:02.930]  We can do it as long as the people,
I'm assuming because I don't know,
[01:15:03.070 --> 01:15:07.110]  the new supervisor that you're hiring,
I think he's going to get a handle on,
[01:15:07.190 --> 01:15:12.250]  or he or she is going to get a handle on
this ...and be able to get to us and do it
[01:15:12.250 --> 01:15:15.770]  exactly how it's supposed to be done,
come to us, and it'll happen quickly.
[01:15:16.330 --> 01:15:17.490]  He won't be waiting.
[01:15:17.870 --> 01:15:18.250]  Okay.
[01:15:19.890 --> 01:15:20.890]  What else you got?
[01:15:22.010 --> 01:15:26.030]  What are the questions that you had before
you did this?
[01:15:26.650 --> 01:15:34.670]  So we're showing that there was a concern
that only $85,000 had been spent so far,
[01:15:34.810 --> 01:15:36.250]  but that's not what we're showing.
[01:15:37.810 --> 01:15:42.690]  It's on page 28, and it is line 530.
[01:15:44.250 --> 01:15:46.850]  Is that the line you're talking about,
Matt?
[01:15:47.210 --> 01:15:49.290]  Oh, the $500,000.
[01:15:49.570 --> 01:15:52.210]  Yes, and it's showing that $85,000 has
been spent too.
[01:15:52.210 --> 01:15:53.950]  So what we're showing is...
[01:15:53.950 --> 01:15:55.930]  And you budgeted $800,000.
[01:15:56.150 --> 01:15:59.890]  Yeah, what we're showing is so far
$277,000.
[01:16:08.530 --> 01:16:12.490]  So if you go to the group insurance,
I wonder if it's tied to that under their
[01:16:12.490 --> 01:16:16.210]  budget, it shows like $2 million has been
spent already.
[01:16:17.290 --> 01:16:21.390]  So I'm wondering if that should be getting
pieced out into different areas.
[01:16:21.630 --> 01:16:22.630]  I can't answer that.
[01:16:22.630 --> 01:16:26.730]  That was what I told her that I think that
there had to be a mistake somewhere
[01:16:26.730 --> 01:16:31.840]  because that number that you're showing is
not correct.
[01:16:32.120 --> 01:16:33.100]  The $85,000?
[01:16:33.320 --> 01:16:33.640]  Yes.
[01:16:38.300 --> 01:16:42.100]  And then I think you go back to like page
12 in the commissioner's budget.
[01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:43.280]  So...
[01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:52.740]  So if you take what's spent so far,
$366,158, that was January through June.
[01:16:53.100 --> 01:16:53.580]  Right.
[01:16:53.580 --> 01:16:56.520]  And then you basically double it,
so that picture is really close to that.
[01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:02.720]  But if it's insurance, it's coming from a
different line that we've appropriated.
[01:17:02.900 --> 01:17:10.740]  I'm perfectly fine if you want to not take
county employees' insurance, if you want
[01:17:10.740 --> 01:17:13.700]  to lump them in with the rest of the
county.
[01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.540]  I don't know why or how or when this
started.
[01:17:18.580 --> 01:17:20.080]  Is that what you're thinking, Mike?
[01:17:20.460 --> 01:17:22.180]  Well, don't they pay us that?
[01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:25.520]  That's what this is.
[01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:27.380]  They pay us back for that, yeah.
[01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:29.100]  That's why we do it like that.
[01:17:31.340 --> 01:17:33.020]  So you see what I mean?
[01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:35.160]  Obviously, I'd be fine with it.
[01:17:35.620 --> 01:17:36.140]  Well, no.
[01:17:36.360 --> 01:17:37.220]  I don't like it.
[01:17:37.660 --> 01:17:39.880]  I mean, I know what you're going to say,
but...
[01:17:40.360 --> 01:17:44.220]  But technically, if you take what we're
showing that we spent January through June
[01:17:44.220 --> 01:17:48.360]  and you double it, and then you've got to
figure you're probably going to have a 14%
[01:17:48.360 --> 01:17:52.360]  increase or whatever if we keep going
along the trend line, it's going to put
[01:17:52.360 --> 01:17:53.900]  you at that number that we made.
[01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:58.740]  Okay, so Mike, what you're thinking is
that the insurance is being paid out of a
[01:17:58.740 --> 01:17:59.420]  different line, right?
[01:18:00.080 --> 01:18:05.620]  Yeah, I'm wondering, like, if you look at
group insurance, why would, on page 12,
[01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:08.940]  we've already spent $2 million.
[01:18:09.480 --> 01:18:09.960]  Correct.
[01:18:12.380 --> 01:18:13.280]  That's only like...
[01:18:14.040 --> 01:18:15.640]  So what I'm thinking...
[01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:17.940]  Hold on just a second.
[01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:19.480]  What did you say, Mike?
[01:18:19.540 --> 01:18:20.580]  It's almost the full budget.
[01:18:20.580 --> 01:18:21.160]  Yes.
[01:18:22.160 --> 01:18:22.640]  Yes.
[01:18:23.900 --> 01:18:30.380]  So what you're saying is instead of it
being paid out of their employee benefits,
[01:18:30.660 --> 01:18:32.880]  it's been being paid out of our...
[01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:33.540]  It might be part of it.
[01:18:34.860 --> 01:18:39.000]  There's another $900,000 that hasn't been
used yet and it's seeded.
[01:18:39.160 --> 01:18:40.600]  That's part of your group insurance.
[01:18:40.900 --> 01:18:41.180]  Yes.
[01:18:42.700 --> 01:18:43.180]  Okay.
[01:18:43.280 --> 01:18:44.600]  So there's another, yeah.
[01:18:44.820 --> 01:18:45.940]  Another $115,000.
[01:18:45.940 --> 01:18:48.480]  So it's being paid out of different line
items and you're just taking it out of
[01:18:48.480 --> 01:18:49.120]  employee benefits.
[01:18:52.440 --> 01:18:59.200]  So what I was thinking was, you just
haven't been taken out of this account.
[01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:01.880]  Yeah, taken out somewhere else.
[01:19:03.360 --> 01:19:05.560]  Because that's how we're paying that
insurance.
[01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:06.020]  Correct.
[01:19:10.380 --> 01:19:14.520]  So we don't need, if we're paying it out
of another line, It's fine, because that's
[01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:19.540]  how we are budgeting for the insurance.
[01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:21.540]  It doesn't need to be increased.
[01:19:23.200 --> 01:19:25.600]  Is that what you're thinking?
[01:19:26.080 --> 01:19:28.660]  I think he's saying it's unintentionally
coming from a different spot.
[01:19:28.660 --> 01:19:29.920]  It's coming from a different spot.
[01:19:30.380 --> 01:19:30.860]  Correct.
[01:19:31.220 --> 01:19:35.820]  But we decided to take it from... if you
remember, we were taking it out of that
[01:19:35.820 --> 01:19:36.240]  seated...
[01:19:36.240 --> 01:19:37.780]  we were offsetting their seated account.
[01:19:38.100 --> 01:19:39.080]  But that's not what he's saying.
[01:19:39.080 --> 01:19:43.540]  They still have $550,000 budgeted into the
highway fund.
[01:19:44.020 --> 01:19:47.140]  And it looks like part of it is just
getting lumped into general.
[01:19:48.180 --> 01:19:51.460]  Yeah, what's the sum if you take a column
in there and a column out of it?
[01:19:52.240 --> 01:19:54.800]  The number there?
[01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:55.220]  Yeah.
[01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:57.480]  What's that?
[01:19:57.820 --> 01:19:58.820]  That makes more sense.
[01:19:59.700 --> 01:20:00.980]  If you look at it as a whole.
[01:20:07.300 --> 01:20:10.240]  So reducing this line item...
[01:20:11.180 --> 01:20:16.940]  If he's saying it's $800,000 for the
highway, that $300,000 needs to go
[01:20:16.940 --> 01:20:19.260]  somewhere else, or it needs to be
$800,000.
[01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:24.780]  Right now it's just reduced by $300,000,
so you're under budget.
[01:20:25.040 --> 01:20:27.640]  You're under budgeting the insurance line.
[01:20:27.940 --> 01:20:30.560]  And what is the finance?
[01:20:31.740 --> 01:20:33.640]  Have you talked about group insurance?
[01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:34.700]  What is the committee...
[01:20:34.700 --> 01:20:37.660]  We spoke about it, but we're not sure
exactly.
[01:20:37.660 --> 01:20:41.560]  I was wondering if you had added in the
14% that he would think of.
[01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:42.800]  It is going to be 14%.
[01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:44.280]  We don't know what that number is.
[01:20:44.380 --> 01:20:47.860]  It's probably going to end up
realistically coming in about 6 or 7.
[01:20:48.440 --> 01:20:53.780]  But we don't know because we're taking
some different advice like Matt with
[01:20:53.780 --> 01:20:55.520]  self-insurance and stuff.
[01:20:55.540 --> 01:20:56.000]  We don't know.
[01:20:56.440 --> 01:20:58.460]  But right now, let's get back to this real
quick.
[01:20:58.540 --> 01:21:05.220]  So when that's being paid out,
it's being paid out on the wrong line.
[01:21:05.940 --> 01:21:06.380]  Potentially.
[01:21:06.380 --> 01:21:07.000]  Potentially.
[01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:07.000]  Potentially.
[01:21:07.540 --> 01:21:08.840]  Well, it has to be, huh?
[01:21:08.980 --> 01:21:09.780]  It looks that way.
[01:21:09.860 --> 01:21:10.620]  It looks that way.
[01:21:10.700 --> 01:21:11.680]  So, how does it work?
[01:21:12.060 --> 01:21:16.360]  So, and that gets paid from the... that
office, right?
[01:21:18.340 --> 01:21:22.860]  And the reason I'm asking, the reason I'm
asking that is, how is that sent to that
[01:21:22.860 --> 01:21:23.320]  office?
[01:21:24.080 --> 01:21:29.500]  Do they, does that county highway say,
are they the ones that tells us where to
[01:21:29.500 --> 01:21:30.420]  get money from?
[01:21:30.620 --> 01:21:30.980]  A voucher.
[01:21:30.980 --> 01:21:31.760]  A voucher over.
[01:21:31.820 --> 01:21:33.100]  How does that get paid out?
[01:21:33.480 --> 01:21:34.620]  How do we know that?
[01:21:35.440 --> 01:21:37.300]  That's what we had to get to the bottom of
that.
[01:21:37.380 --> 01:21:38.320]  How's that getting done?
[01:21:38.480 --> 01:21:42.660]  I'll look at where they owe the insurance.
[01:21:43.240 --> 01:21:47.820]  Sheila, do you send a voucher in for your
health insurance to the auditor?
[01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:54.900]  Nikki gives us a sheet every month for
that month, how much
[01:21:58.100 --> 01:21:58.640]  we...
[01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.160]  But you don't send it...
[01:22:00.160 --> 01:22:02.080]  We reimburse retirement...
[01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:07.140]  Okay, so what I'm asking is do you send a
voucher in to the auditor ...to pay your
[01:22:07.140 --> 01:22:10.700]  part, not reimbursed, to pay your part.
[01:22:10.820 --> 01:22:13.360]  How much yours and what account it should
come out of.
[01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:14.400]  Yes.
[01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:15.760]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:17.080]  It comes out of that benefit.
[01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:19.620]  But it hasn't been.
[01:22:19.940 --> 01:22:20.920]  But it hasn't.
[01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:21.500]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:22:21.580 --> 01:22:24.260]  So we've got to figure out what's going on
there.
[01:22:24.400 --> 01:22:25.300]  That's the discrepancy.
[01:22:25.300 --> 01:22:28.220]  Because we paid out $1,176 and $1,173
fine.
[01:22:28.440 --> 01:22:28.800]  Okay.
[01:22:28.900 --> 01:22:31.240]  So we'll get that figured out.
[01:22:32.480 --> 01:22:32.920]  Okay.
[01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:39.440]  Hey, so Matt, today, we're just trying to
get everything cleaned up, so before we
[01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:42.880]  make any final decisions on a book or
something, you'll get a copy of it again,
[01:22:43.080 --> 01:22:44.260]  to look at it again.
[01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:49.240]  So basically what I'm saying is,
I don't care how you guys did it as far as
[01:22:49.240 --> 01:22:54.780]  your part, but we probably better figure,
I would say, around $800,000 for the
[01:22:54.780 --> 01:22:55.000]  benefits.
[01:22:55.540 --> 01:22:58.880]  However, you guys need to take the money
from us.
[01:22:58.940 --> 01:23:00.100]  I see what you're saying.
[01:23:00.100 --> 01:23:03.260]  Okay, what else you got?
[01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:10.560]  Equipment repair cannot come out of 1173
phone, only construction and
[01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:10.860]  reconstruction.
[01:23:14.140 --> 01:23:16.840]  Right there at the top.
[01:23:17.200 --> 01:23:17.760]  1173?
[01:23:18.200 --> 01:23:18.580]  Yeah.
[01:23:20.620 --> 01:23:21.740]  100,000.
[01:23:36.090 --> 01:23:37.910]  Okay, we'll just make that adjustment.
[01:23:39.590 --> 01:23:41.650]  Which is, you want to put it back to what?
[01:23:42.710 --> 01:23:44.290]  He's not asking to change the numbers.
[01:23:44.410 --> 01:23:46.590]  He's asking to move it to a different
fund.
[01:23:46.770 --> 01:23:47.830]  It's in the wrong place.
[01:23:48.070 --> 01:23:48.610]  Why is it?
[01:23:48.710 --> 01:23:49.210]  I don't know.
[01:23:49.370 --> 01:23:50.250]  That doesn't matter.
[01:23:50.610 --> 01:23:52.170]  Statutory, it can't be put there.
[01:23:52.490 --> 01:23:53.270]  Well, just move it.
[01:23:53.350 --> 01:23:53.830]  That's all we're doing.
[01:23:53.850 --> 01:23:54.690]  We're not changing the numbers.
[01:23:55.130 --> 01:23:56.690]  Yeah, I don't change the budget.
[01:23:56.810 --> 01:23:57.330]  Just move it.
[01:23:57.410 --> 01:23:58.670]  Okay, what else?
[01:23:59.850 --> 01:24:01.030]  There's two equipment repairs.
[01:24:01.390 --> 01:24:03.630]  Oh, because one is being paid out at 1176.
[01:24:04.710 --> 01:24:05.610]  Okay, sorry.
[01:24:05.910 --> 01:24:06.450]  Go ahead.
[01:24:06.450 --> 01:24:11.830]  So just as a quick so you know,
there are several things factored into
[01:24:11.830 --> 01:24:14.650]  equipment repair.
[01:24:15.070 --> 01:24:17.190]  I mean, you're going to see those numbers.
[01:24:17.190 --> 01:24:18.630]  Those numbers are never going to get
better.
[01:24:20.090 --> 01:24:23.770]  Unfortunately, we came to the time where
the old John Deere tractors that weren't
[01:24:23.770 --> 01:24:27.030]  computer controlled or whatever,
they're obsolete and they're out.
[01:24:27.130 --> 01:24:31.830]  So now all this new crap that I'm going to
use the term crap because that's what it
[01:24:31.830 --> 01:24:32.090]  is.
[01:24:32.090 --> 01:24:40.590]  When it breaks, it's no longer a $200
carter, it's a $5,000 ECM, and so that
[01:24:40.590 --> 01:24:45.490]  number looks terrible, and that number is
going to continue to look worse and worse
[01:24:45.490 --> 01:24:47.190]  as we move into all this new junk.
[01:24:51.250 --> 01:24:55.870]  The DEF, the Diesel Exhaust Fluid that
they put on the trackers, every time we
[01:24:55.870 --> 01:25:00.030]  take one of those to get repaired,
it's $5,000 to $10,000 every time.
[01:25:01.130 --> 01:25:03.570]  And we never have that with the old
equipment.
[01:25:03.770 --> 01:25:05.530]  It's this new stuff.
[01:25:05.750 --> 01:25:06.810]  You've got to fix that, don't you?
[01:25:07.590 --> 01:25:11.530]  Keep the old equipment and replenish what
needs to be fixed.
[01:25:11.810 --> 01:25:16.510]  They have phased out the parts for those
old tractors and then now you can't get
[01:25:16.510 --> 01:25:17.050]  parts for them.
[01:25:17.130 --> 01:25:17.870]  So now they're obsolete.
[01:25:18.270 --> 01:25:18.990]  It's on purpose, yeah.
[01:25:19.230 --> 01:25:22.450]  So there it sits and you can't run it
because you need one part that you no
[01:25:22.450 --> 01:25:23.210]  longer can get.
[01:25:23.410 --> 01:25:24.050]  Job security.
[01:25:24.510 --> 01:25:27.470]  And I'm experiencing that same thing at
home on the farm.
[01:25:27.470 --> 01:25:31.730]  So when you see that number, it's not
someone out there being frivolous with
[01:25:31.730 --> 01:25:32.010]  money.
[01:25:32.170 --> 01:25:35.930]  It's truly been handed to us and I don't
have a problem with that.
[01:25:39.970 --> 01:25:42.050]  There was two requests for 150.
[01:25:42.410 --> 01:25:44.590]  One was taken away, one was moved to 100.
[01:25:49.080 --> 01:25:50.680]  What do you want me to put in there?
[01:25:51.100 --> 01:25:55.380]  Also, can that equipment repair be used in
Local Road and Street Hunt?
[01:25:56.340 --> 01:25:58.060]  Because I know you can use it for
equipment.
[01:26:05.300 --> 01:26:11.590]  Yeah, I didn't know if you knew off the
top of your head... I can check,
[01:26:11.630 --> 01:26:11.830]  too.
[01:26:22.860 --> 01:26:23.300]  No,
[01:26:29.900 --> 01:26:36.380]  so, as far as just budgeting the line,
can repairs be paid out of the wood road
[01:26:36.380 --> 01:26:36.640]  street?
[01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:37.260]  Oh, okay.
[01:26:37.340 --> 01:26:37.760]  That one.
[01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:41.060]  I thought you meant if you didn't use it,
can it be used for something?
[01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:43.600]  Because there is flexibility in that fund.
[01:26:44.020 --> 01:26:47.080]  You guys are just so stressed on both your
highway funds.
[01:26:47.460 --> 01:26:51.640]  I didn't know if we could alleviate some
of it by potentially moving that line item
[01:26:52.240 --> 01:26:55.080]  into Lower Road Street because there is
some flexibility in there.
[01:26:56.220 --> 01:26:59.500]  And I know we've used it on equipment
before, but I don't know about repairs.
[01:27:00.380 --> 01:27:01.380]  Something I can check.
[01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:02.840]  I just didn't know if you knew on the top
of your head.
[01:27:08.360 --> 01:27:10.980]  So you're going to check on that,
Sheila, whether that can...
[01:27:10.980 --> 01:27:12.140]  I can check, too.
[01:27:12.220 --> 01:27:13.640]  I just, like I said, I don't know if you
guys know.
[01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:17.280]  Okay, what else you got, Matt?
[01:27:17.780 --> 01:27:18.580]  That's all I had.
[01:27:53.750 --> 01:27:56.030]  And we budgeted $50,000.
[01:27:56.210 --> 01:27:56.950]  Dave, is that what you're saying?
[01:27:59.250 --> 01:27:59.730]  Or no?
[01:28:00.110 --> 01:28:00.970]  Here, I see it.
[01:28:00.970 --> 01:28:04.250]  There's 250 in there, but I think that's
the CCMG match.
[01:28:05.670 --> 01:28:06.150]  Okay.
[01:28:11.300 --> 01:28:15.240]  So $50,000 to put that in just for the
first sentence.
[01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:20.160]  But you think that's the match?
[01:28:20.400 --> 01:28:23.260]  Well, I think the 250 is the CCMG match.
[01:28:25.140 --> 01:28:26.960]  He wants to talk about paving.
[01:28:29.240 --> 01:28:32.300]  I guess we'll do whatever you guys tell us
we can do.
[01:28:32.300 --> 01:28:37.680]  I would like to do the max, whatever you
guys tell us we can spend here on payment.
[01:28:38.100 --> 01:28:40.740]  Okay, so right here on page 29.
[01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:43.420]  And they...
[01:28:43.420 --> 01:28:44.140]  I see it.
[01:28:44.860 --> 01:28:46.820]  They put in for $300,000.
[01:28:53.860 --> 01:28:55.740]  There's another one right above it for
$100,000.
[01:28:56.060 --> 01:28:56.780]  What's the difference?
[01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:58.140]  I can pull up for $300,000, yeah.
[01:29:00.440 --> 01:29:05.960]  The $100,000 less... the restricted fund,
the $300,000 less stuff.
[01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:10.800]  And the 300 in the bottom there too.
[01:29:10.900 --> 01:29:11.300]  Okay, I see.
[01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.500]  Do you want to talk about that,
Dave, or what you guys decided on that?
[01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:17.300]  On the paving?
[01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:17.780]  Mm-hmm.
[01:29:18.180 --> 01:29:18.740]  I don't want to do...
[01:29:18.740 --> 01:29:19.900]  They want to take it back to...
[01:29:19.900 --> 01:29:21.020]  I want to leave it like it is.
[01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:25.420]  And the reason I'm saying that is I want
to leave it like we've got it right now.
[01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:29.380]  And if they need more money, I want them
to come back and say, we need this money,
[01:29:29.460 --> 01:29:30.420]  we need it for this road.
[01:29:30.740 --> 01:29:34.080]  Because we might have a different plan we
want to discuss with the commissioner
[01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:35.100]  later on.
[01:29:38.650 --> 01:29:41.990]  Because I'm telling you right now,
the county garage guys, and everybody
[01:29:41.990 --> 01:29:47.570]  knows this, is not going to have enough
money in the next few years to operate to
[01:29:47.570 --> 01:29:48.790]  do what they got to do.
[01:29:49.630 --> 01:29:52.330]  So I want this discussion to stay hot.
[01:29:52.450 --> 01:29:53.930]  So I want them to come back to us.
[01:29:54.970 --> 01:29:57.230]  And say we need this money, this is what
we need.
[01:29:58.530 --> 01:30:01.030]  If we move it to, what is that,
$50,000?
[01:30:01.910 --> 01:30:04.490]  That's not dropping the bucket to what
they're wondering.
[01:30:06.330 --> 01:30:07.730]  I already know that.
[01:30:07.870 --> 01:30:11.310]  I know not near what they know.
[01:30:11.690 --> 01:30:16.670]  So you want us to get quotes on the road
that we want to pay and then come back to
[01:30:16.670 --> 01:30:17.930]  you and ask if you can fund it?
[01:30:18.110 --> 01:30:19.150]  And ask if we can fund it.
[01:30:19.150 --> 01:30:21.030]  We're getting the funding from it.
[01:30:22.210 --> 01:30:27.450]  But the reason I want to do it that way,
you're going to need a whole lot more
[01:30:27.450 --> 01:30:28.070]  money than that.
[01:30:28.090 --> 01:30:33.290]  We got a plan, the financial team does,
but we got to meet with the commission and
[01:30:33.290 --> 01:30:34.370]  talk to you guys about it.
[01:30:35.250 --> 01:30:37.930]  So right now I just want to leave where
it's at until we discuss it further.
[01:30:38.530 --> 01:30:41.590]  Anytime you guys are going to need money,
we know we've got to get it to you.
[01:30:41.950 --> 01:30:44.830]  But we want you to have, we don't want to
just load up a fund.
[01:30:48.180 --> 01:30:49.940]  We're trying to hit a budget figure too.
[01:30:50.320 --> 01:30:51.760]  Yeah, we're trying to hit a budget figure.
[01:30:51.780 --> 01:30:54.460]  So basically, I don't disagree with
anything you're saying.
[01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:57.220]  So basically what we're going to do when
we get this new highway...
[01:31:01.080 --> 01:31:01.420]  Supervisor.
[01:31:01.420 --> 01:31:02.440]  We know what it's called.
[01:31:12.480 --> 01:31:15.140]  We need his money.
[01:31:15.360 --> 01:31:16.820]  And we got a plan.
[01:31:17.080 --> 01:31:21.140]  I think we got a really good plan on where
to get you guys some money, but it's going
[01:31:21.140 --> 01:31:22.520]  to take you guys' help.
[01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:23.400]  Right.
[01:31:24.740 --> 01:31:27.260]  Matt, have you filled the foreman position
yet?
[01:31:30.780 --> 01:31:32.660]  Yes, but not when they haven't started.
[01:31:32.860 --> 01:31:34.360]  They can't start until they walk in.
[01:31:34.400 --> 01:31:35.040]  Yeah, I do too.
[01:31:35.700 --> 01:31:38.780]  I teach in school for a long period of
time.
[01:31:38.780 --> 01:31:39.080]  Go for it.
[01:31:40.200 --> 01:31:41.120]  Oh, I believe.
[01:31:41.740 --> 01:31:44.630]  Or are you talking about the supervisor?
[01:31:44.810 --> 01:31:46.370]  Not the supervisor.
[01:31:46.710 --> 01:31:48.790]  So my school's position has been filled.
[01:31:48.790 --> 01:31:49.590]  Has been filled, okay.
[01:31:50.810 --> 01:31:52.810]  How much do you want for them for
equipment repair?
[01:31:53.430 --> 01:31:55.030]  Oh, equipment repair, back to that.
[01:31:55.030 --> 01:31:57.510]  I have it full now.
[01:31:57.730 --> 01:31:58.130]  It's encrusted.
[01:32:00.230 --> 01:32:01.190]  No, what?
[01:32:01.310 --> 01:32:01.470]  Huh?
[01:32:01.630 --> 01:32:02.430]  Where am I at?
[01:32:04.750 --> 01:32:07.210]  I mean, he's right, what he's saying
about...
[01:32:07.210 --> 01:32:08.530]  you don't have enough money.
[01:32:10.770 --> 01:32:12.050]  But you were going to check...
[01:32:12.050 --> 01:32:13.830]  I have the $300,000 in...
[01:32:13.830 --> 01:32:15.870]  But you can only get the $300,000 is what
he's asking.
[01:32:15.970 --> 01:32:16.850]  Yeah, don't change it.
[01:32:21.610 --> 01:32:23.590]  Oh, you're saying you're putting it back
in there.
[01:32:23.650 --> 01:32:24.890]  I've got to make sure I get to where
you're at.
[01:32:24.890 --> 01:32:27.050]  It can't be paid out every year.
[01:32:27.690 --> 01:32:31.650]  Originally he requested 150, 150.
[01:32:32.610 --> 01:32:37.670]  The highway fund was zeroed out and then
the restricted fund was taken down to 100.
[01:32:38.750 --> 01:32:40.470]  It can't be paid in restricted.
[01:32:42.070 --> 01:32:46.570]  Right now, I have both requests in the
highway fund at 300.
[01:32:46.970 --> 01:32:47.990]  Is that how you want it?
[01:32:49.750 --> 01:32:51.730]  Yeah, that won't change the budget any.
[01:32:55.590 --> 01:32:57.290]  I'll check and see if it can be reduced.
[01:32:58.510 --> 01:33:00.310]  That won't change the budget any.
[01:33:00.350 --> 01:33:01.790]  I just moved it in a different line.
[01:33:03.510 --> 01:33:05.170]  Right, you just need to know what...
[01:33:05.170 --> 01:33:07.470]  We're going to get to see these guys walk
next year.
[01:33:07.650 --> 01:33:09.990]  Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I had it
the way you wanted.
[01:33:12.990 --> 01:33:13.850]  What else you got?
[01:33:29.700 --> 01:33:31.140]  I didn't hear the answer.
[01:33:31.260 --> 01:33:33.180]  Did you hire your foreman?
[01:33:33.420 --> 01:33:33.780]  Yes.
[01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:34.280]  Okay.
[01:33:36.340 --> 01:33:39.640]  He was talking to me at the same time and
I heard Dave asking and I never got back
[01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:39.960]  to that.
[01:33:40.460 --> 01:33:42.040]  And you budgeted for that, didn't you?
[01:33:42.400 --> 01:33:42.800]  Yes.
[01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:43.900]  Well, we haven't yet.
[01:33:43.940 --> 01:33:44.800]  We will in September.
[01:33:57.220 --> 01:33:59.980]  You weren't budgeting for anything that
wasn't filled.
[01:34:00.200 --> 01:34:01.460]  It's what we've done in the past.
[01:34:01.500 --> 01:34:02.480]  That's why I'm asking you that.
[01:34:09.420 --> 01:34:11.260]  Is that right, Dave Cheatham?
[01:34:11.400 --> 01:34:11.680]  Yeah.
[01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:13.860]  You budgeted for Max Foreman?
[01:34:13.860 --> 01:34:14.420]  Yes.
[01:34:14.580 --> 01:34:17.700]  Because in the past we didn't budget for
anything that wasn't there.
[01:34:19.060 --> 01:34:19.860]  We did.
[01:34:20.740 --> 01:34:22.940]  Yeah, it's on the proposal, yeah.
[01:34:28.180 --> 01:34:28.880]  You don't know.
[01:34:29.220 --> 01:34:30.760]  I didn't say you don't know, I'm a wood
off.
[01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:35.740]  You just said, I know everything.
[01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:37.480]  You said, I know everything.
[01:34:38.380 --> 01:34:39.360]  Play back the tape.
[01:34:40.220 --> 01:34:42.040]  You can't do that, you can't be a cheater.
[01:34:42.240 --> 01:34:43.420]  Did you have a question for him today?
[01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:44.480]  I could have a question.
[01:34:44.540 --> 01:34:45.240]  Oh yeah, I did.
[01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:50.560]  We didn't change that, I don't think.
[01:34:51.580 --> 01:34:52.560]  The question I have.
[01:34:52.860 --> 01:34:52.980]  Okay.
[01:34:54.160 --> 01:34:54.960]  Miscellaneous services.
[01:34:55.260 --> 01:34:56.300]  Personal miscellaneous services.
[01:34:57.300 --> 01:34:58.340]  What page do you have?
[01:34:58.600 --> 01:34:59.740]  I don't know.
[01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:01.080]  I'm not dealing with that.
[01:35:01.140 --> 01:35:01.400]  Hold on.
[01:35:05.090 --> 01:35:06.310]  Did you change it?
[01:35:06.310 --> 01:35:07.070]  Did you trick me?
[01:35:07.410 --> 01:35:07.910]  Page 12.
[01:35:07.910 --> 01:35:08.250]  Page 12.
[01:35:11.270 --> 01:35:12.930]  So that's miscellaneous...
[01:35:12.930 --> 01:35:13.510]  Miscellaneous?
[01:35:13.690 --> 01:35:14.490]  ...virtual services.
[01:35:17.050 --> 01:35:18.090]  Yeah, page 12.
[01:35:19.210 --> 01:35:21.330]  Everything you see in red.
[01:35:21.710 --> 01:35:27.210]  Everything that says it right there,
miscellaneous personal services.
[01:35:30.670 --> 01:35:31.990]  What time is page 12?
[01:35:32.530 --> 01:35:33.350]  Do you want it?
[01:35:34.050 --> 01:35:34.770]  I guess.
[01:35:36.130 --> 01:35:38.030]  Okay, so what time?
[01:35:38.250 --> 01:35:41.010]  When you asked me out on the phone the
other day, I went to...
[01:35:45.120 --> 01:35:45.960]  What time?
[01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:46.440]  Here.
[01:35:47.440 --> 01:35:47.960]  108.
[01:35:48.380 --> 01:35:49.320]  I'm giving this.
[01:35:49.620 --> 01:35:50.880]  I got an extra one.
[01:35:51.340 --> 01:35:51.860]  117.
[01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:54.960]  You got some of them as 1170.
[01:35:55.020 --> 01:35:58.160]  Some of them is 4908.
[01:36:01.980 --> 01:36:04.700]  1148, 1152, I should say 4908.
[01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:06.540]  A whole bunch of them.
[01:36:22.950 --> 01:36:26.510]  I don't know what he is doing on this
lesson, doing his thing, you know.
[01:36:34.070 --> 01:36:36.430]  We are not doing very good, cutting all
our money out early.
[01:36:42.110 --> 01:36:44.070]  There's still going to be a million
dollars over budget, Jerry.
[01:36:45.090 --> 01:36:46.570]  So we're not cutting very much,
are we?
[01:36:47.850 --> 01:36:49.410]  There's still going to be a million
dollars over.
[01:36:51.310 --> 01:36:53.730]  Yeah, and we took all that out already.
[01:36:54.350 --> 01:36:57.690]  If you give that extra pay, it's going to
be another $60,000 on top of that.
[01:37:04.530 --> 01:37:06.110]  Remind me again why I ran for this job.
[01:37:09.270 --> 01:37:10.390]  Those aren't on time.
[01:37:10.730 --> 01:37:11.570]  I think it will.
[01:37:11.770 --> 01:37:14.530]  I think I went for Kelly Comer.
[01:37:14.570 --> 01:37:15.210]  That was simple.
[01:37:15.410 --> 01:37:16.430]  I understood that.
[01:37:16.430 --> 01:37:17.490]  Nobody thought me on anything.
[01:37:17.850 --> 01:37:18.970]  It was a cakewalk.
[01:37:19.890 --> 01:37:21.590]  I think next year we've done somewhat.
[01:37:21.750 --> 01:37:23.530]  We're going to have to raise the ECO
taxes.
[01:37:24.150 --> 01:37:24.770]  We're going to have to.
[01:37:25.770 --> 01:37:27.330]  That's one of Jerry Lim's ideas.
[01:37:27.430 --> 01:37:28.910]  He wants the board to raise taxes.
[01:37:29.130 --> 01:37:29.370]  That's right.
[01:37:30.070 --> 01:37:31.150]  That's why he's not...
[01:37:31.730 --> 01:37:33.550]  That's why he didn't want to raise taxes.
[01:37:33.650 --> 01:37:34.850]  He's never voted for a tax increase.
[01:37:35.310 --> 01:37:36.270]  He's not going to do that.
[01:37:39.670 --> 01:37:41.970]  I think she's having some major health
problems.
[01:37:42.110 --> 01:37:43.330]  I think so.
[01:37:44.450 --> 01:37:45.270]  Do you know what it is?
[01:37:45.850 --> 01:37:47.690]  Do you know what kind of problems she's
having?
[01:37:47.970 --> 01:37:49.310]  She was having liver problems before.
[01:37:49.370 --> 01:37:50.130]  I'm not sure about now.
[01:37:50.290 --> 01:37:52.030]  Remember how yellow and dumb she was
forever?
[01:37:53.770 --> 01:37:54.970]  I haven't heard of it.
[01:37:55.590 --> 01:37:56.730]  Have you heard of Mandy?
[01:37:56.930 --> 01:37:57.410]  How's Mandy?
[01:37:58.190 --> 01:37:59.290]  I haven't heard of her.
[01:38:00.550 --> 01:38:01.870]  I'll go down and see her.
[01:38:02.170 --> 01:38:03.310]  She don't have any.
[01:38:13.950 --> 01:38:15.630]  Okay, we took them all out, so.
[01:38:16.910 --> 01:38:19.550]  We already took them all out, so if you
need them, just come back.
[01:38:19.610 --> 01:38:22.170]  But I mean, like I'm saying, if it's a
payment you're being paid out or
[01:38:22.170 --> 01:38:23.730]  something, I just need to know what that
payment is.
[01:38:23.870 --> 01:38:30.970]  So, are there miscellaneous services in
their contracts, do you think?
[01:38:37.410 --> 01:38:41.490]  So you know when you see that cleared out
if you got it you might have to come and
[01:38:41.490 --> 01:38:42.310]  ask us for it.
[01:38:42.470 --> 01:38:45.950]  Say I got to make this payment then we can
make that line up.
[01:38:46.110 --> 01:38:47.130]  We don't know what that is.
[01:38:47.310 --> 01:38:51.230]  Just so you know I'm not a fan of
something coded miscellaneous either so I
[01:38:51.230 --> 01:38:53.190]  didn't know.
[01:38:53.530 --> 01:38:56.470]  And we know if we have to come up with
more money for you guys we don't know what
[01:38:56.470 --> 01:38:56.710]  to say.
[01:38:57.010 --> 01:38:58.630]  And I don't know.
[01:38:58.810 --> 01:39:00.690]  So it's in the commissioners budget.
[01:39:00.690 --> 01:39:04.530]  If it's in contractual services,
we should call it contractual services.
[01:39:04.730 --> 01:39:05.590]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:39:06.330 --> 01:39:08.530]  We've got to call it something,
not mislanguage.
[01:39:09.270 --> 01:39:11.250]  Dave thought it was Sheila's personal
shopping fund.
[01:39:11.350 --> 01:39:11.750]  He wasn't sure.
[01:39:12.730 --> 01:39:16.330]  So now we're going to go to the county
commissioners, 12 and 13.
[01:39:16.650 --> 01:39:17.410]  12 and 13.
[01:39:18.630 --> 01:39:19.630]  That's where you want to go next.
[01:39:20.630 --> 01:39:21.130]  He's here.
[01:39:23.670 --> 01:39:25.650]  You got any questions about any of that?
[01:39:47.040 --> 01:39:50.160]  There's a line for contractual services,
I guess this is how and why we have that
[01:39:50.160 --> 01:39:51.080]  miscellaneous stuff.
[01:39:51.340 --> 01:39:52.520]  That should all be over there.
[01:39:56.060 --> 01:40:00.600]  I know a big one that has plagued us and
keeps getting worse every year is IT.
[01:40:12.020 --> 01:40:14.760]  Each department has its own IT contract.
[01:40:15.660 --> 01:40:17.720]  Each one has a different IT contract.
[01:40:17.780 --> 01:40:18.760]  We have one for the whole county.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.900]  So they are listed in several different
places in the budget for IT expansion.
[01:40:24.740 --> 01:40:26.940]  They've got it in yellow, too,
to discuss.
[01:40:27.100 --> 01:40:32.480]  I don't know why we've got this piece too
yellow.
[01:40:32.700 --> 01:40:33.700]  Is this where it's listed?
[01:40:37.740 --> 01:40:40.440]  It was something that was changed in our
meeting.
[01:40:43.780 --> 01:40:44.180]  Right.
[01:40:46.180 --> 01:40:49.680]  He said it was something that was changed
in your meeting when you met with them.
[01:40:50.400 --> 01:40:51.880]  Meg, I don't know what you're talking
about.
[01:40:53.580 --> 01:40:57.880]  The department has a certain software
system.
[01:40:58.300 --> 01:41:03.040]  They might have an agreement that they're
calling an IT agreement with that software
[01:41:03.040 --> 01:41:03.460]  company.
[01:41:03.860 --> 01:41:06.700]  The IT I'm talking about is like... The
whole system.
[01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:08.720]  The whole part of computers are down.
[01:41:09.020 --> 01:41:09.420]  Right.
[01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:15.260]  So each department has different software
that they have service.
[01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:21.380]  Is that the 60,000 computer maintenance
that is for IT?
[01:41:26.700 --> 01:41:28.820]  Do you see that Dave?
[01:41:29.900 --> 01:41:32.280]  I see the, I see the spending authority.
[01:41:32.300 --> 01:41:32.700]  Yeah.
[01:41:32.780 --> 01:41:35.520]  I see the spending authority, 30904.
[01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:36.560]  This one, right here.
[01:41:37.260 --> 01:41:38.640]  Spending $300,000.
[01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:42.240]  This is, okay.
[01:41:42.540 --> 01:41:44.320]  Here's your spending authority,
right there.
[01:41:44.420 --> 01:41:45.280]  $400,000.
[01:41:45.440 --> 01:41:50.600]  Right, this is what was budgeted though,
$426,000 and this is the spending
[01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:52.460]  authority, there was a $300,000.
[01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:55.080]  Overexpenditure.
[01:41:55.200 --> 01:41:55.800]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:59.620]  Well, see, that's what we, I think,
me and Sarah talked about earlier.
[01:42:00.020 --> 01:42:03.300]  There might, I don't know what that is,
but there might have been an
[01:42:03.300 --> 01:42:05.360]  appropriations that they wouldn't have
known it.
[01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:10.620]  Well, there was an adjustment made to the
budget, but in that specific line,
[01:42:10.700 --> 01:42:12.960]  there's only been $11,356.
[01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:15.560]  You see that?
[01:42:15.940 --> 01:42:17.840]  I see, that's what we, exactly.
[01:42:18.140 --> 01:42:21.580]  Okay, so they had a spending authority of
$406, right?
[01:42:26.580 --> 01:42:28.180]  So that's what we need to know.
[01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:29.640]  That's why it's highlighted.
[01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:33.520]  Yeah, I was trying to understand why it's
highlighted in yellow and not red.
[01:42:33.820 --> 01:42:36.540]  Because you made a change to it with your
question in the meeting.
[01:42:36.780 --> 01:42:37.080]  Okay.
[01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:39.100]  I see what you're saying.
[01:42:39.220 --> 01:42:40.220]  It's 1140.
[01:42:44.610 --> 01:42:45.570]  That's 1140.
[01:42:46.270 --> 01:42:46.750]  1140.
[01:42:46.750 --> 01:42:56.590]  Your spending authority in that was
$406,000, but you guys only spent $11,000
[01:42:56.590 --> 01:42:58.230]  from 6-30-26.
[01:43:01.430 --> 01:43:04.830]  I'd like to say it's because I know we're
doing a good job, but I don't think that's
[01:43:04.830 --> 01:43:05.110]  the case.
[01:43:05.930 --> 01:43:06.670]  Something's wrong.
[01:43:07.670 --> 01:43:09.610]  We just got clean at that dollar time.
[01:43:09.730 --> 01:43:10.450]  Yeah, correct.
[01:43:10.790 --> 01:43:12.130]  I don't know exactly what to do.
[01:43:15.890 --> 01:43:18.110]  We put $25,000 in there, so...
[01:43:18.110 --> 01:43:20.990]  Well, we still have 25 in here,
25 in there, just in case.
[01:43:21.130 --> 01:43:21.570]  It's the whole.
[01:43:21.770 --> 01:43:22.530]  It's 11 and 48.
[01:43:22.630 --> 01:43:23.530]  Yeah, just in case.
[01:43:23.570 --> 01:43:24.050]  Just in case.
[01:43:24.110 --> 01:43:24.450]  That's good.
[01:43:26.370 --> 01:43:28.270]  Well, I'm still being able to watch the
number.
[01:43:28.410 --> 01:43:28.830]  11.
[01:43:29.690 --> 01:43:30.130]  11.
[01:43:30.470 --> 01:43:32.230]  11-1-0-8.
[01:43:32.230 --> 01:43:32.690]  We'll figure it out.
[01:43:32.930 --> 01:43:35.010]  But it might be something you have to
have.
[01:43:39.070 --> 01:43:39.950]  That is...
[01:43:39.950 --> 01:43:41.890]  Hey, do you think it's that...
[01:43:42.690 --> 01:43:44.030]  It's the team courthouse time.
[01:43:48.620 --> 01:43:52.760]  Did you come back from the initial
preparations for the... didn't you put in
[01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:53.480]  a new...
[01:43:55.620 --> 01:43:59.520]  Yes, and you have not paid for that yet.
[01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:01.900]  Is that what you decided to pay for it?
[01:44:03.320 --> 01:44:04.440]  No, I didn't.
[01:44:12.310 --> 01:44:13.630]  I don't think it was paid for.
[01:44:20.350 --> 01:44:21.810]  Where did we pay that out of?
[01:44:22.850 --> 01:44:24.310]  It wasn't CUNY Court.
[01:44:24.310 --> 01:44:28.210]  We didn't have enough money in the team
courthouse to pay that out.
[01:44:30.110 --> 01:44:33.750]  Did we take it out on a rainy day?
[01:44:35.610 --> 01:44:37.270]  Maybe we did take it out on a rainy day.
[01:44:37.270 --> 01:44:37.930]  I think we did.
[01:44:39.450 --> 01:44:42.390]  No, we didn't take it out on a rainy day.
[01:44:42.770 --> 01:44:46.050]  We couldn't take it out because nobody
knew how long we were trying to take it
[01:44:46.050 --> 01:44:46.450]  out safely.
[01:44:47.850 --> 01:44:48.210]  Right.
[01:44:48.210 --> 01:44:49.290]  There's no safety there.
[01:44:49.370 --> 01:44:50.690]  That's where it came from.
[01:44:50.730 --> 01:44:51.250]  Rainy day.
[01:44:51.430 --> 01:44:52.590]  That money to pay for it.
[01:44:54.970 --> 01:44:55.910]  That's where it came from.
[01:44:56.610 --> 01:45:00.870]  We're not getting that information when we
get the Form 1.
[01:45:01.010 --> 01:45:05.330]  We're not getting all that detailed
information that we need and they need.
[01:45:09.110 --> 01:45:10.070]  I get it.
[01:45:10.170 --> 01:45:11.370]  I get what you're saying too.
[01:45:12.610 --> 01:45:14.110]  Okay, what else do you have?
[01:45:14.970 --> 01:45:16.250]  I don't have anything else.
[01:45:16.610 --> 01:45:17.590]  Do you have anything, Dixie?
[01:45:18.890 --> 01:45:19.930]  Anybody else have anything?
[01:45:19.930 --> 01:45:22.010]  I mean, what do you have?
[01:45:23.590 --> 01:45:27.710]  I just found... I literally just saw that
page on the front, so I have nothing.
[01:45:28.830 --> 01:45:29.470]  That's the...
[01:45:29.470 --> 01:45:30.850]  I don't like any of those.
[01:45:30.910 --> 01:45:33.170]  There's been a bunch of them on there
labeled miscellaneous.
[01:45:33.170 --> 01:45:34.350]  I don't know what that is.
[01:45:35.190 --> 01:45:36.570]  We don't like it either, but...
[01:45:36.570 --> 01:45:37.730]  See, I thought you had all that.
[01:45:38.050 --> 01:45:41.110]  They definitely need to be explained what
they are, because...
[01:45:42.150 --> 01:45:46.490]  I mean, you can't ask a question that I
can't answer if it's labeled miscellaneous
[01:45:46.490 --> 01:45:46.910]  expenses.
[01:45:54.070 --> 01:45:57.870]  Matt, one of our big concerns about that
is, Dave and I talked about it,
[01:45:57.990 --> 01:46:01.910]  is there's over a million dollars just
miscellaneous and who knows where the heck
[01:46:01.910 --> 01:46:02.630]  any of that's going.
[01:46:03.010 --> 01:46:03.690]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:46:04.130 --> 01:46:06.810]  I'm not saying it's going anywhere wrong,
but we just don't know.
[01:46:07.970 --> 01:46:10.170]  Yeah, I don't like anything labeled
miscellaneous.
[01:46:10.210 --> 01:46:10.750]  It never happened.
[01:46:11.390 --> 01:46:15.530]  And when I spoke with Matt a week or so
ago, he said that exact same thing.
[01:46:15.590 --> 01:46:16.830]  He understood that.
[01:46:23.280 --> 01:46:31.180]  So basically are you guys going to look at
the account number over here and then
[01:46:31.180 --> 01:46:36.260]  figure out what that is so we can put a
label on what those miscellaneous are and
[01:46:36.260 --> 01:46:37.660]  then re-code it.
[01:46:38.340 --> 01:46:41.420]  I think when I have that information it
would definitely be helpful.
[01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:47.140]  As your people started coming in,
like domestic violence, they closed that
[01:46:47.140 --> 01:46:47.520]  shelter.
[01:46:47.620 --> 01:46:49.640]  I'm not even sure we have domestic
violence in town anymore.
[01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:52.240]  I used to be on that board and I don't
think that that's even...
[01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:57.080]  So, has people started coming in,
like Senior Center?
[01:46:57.540 --> 01:47:00.160]  Does domestic violence come every year for
that?
[01:47:00.780 --> 01:47:02.820]  Pretty much, they usually do.
[01:47:02.900 --> 01:47:06.860]  So, the shelter's closed, and they've sold
that building.
[01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:12.640]  So, I'm not sure that there's even an
operational in Jennings County anymore.
[01:47:12.900 --> 01:47:15.420]  And our research is right here,
and that's probably something that...
[01:47:15.420 --> 01:47:17.700]  That's CASA, right?
[01:47:17.700 --> 01:47:19.440]  Yeah, we probably don't want to get
involved in all of that.
[01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:24.700]  Well, I think, you know, I've said on
several grant committees, and if you look
[01:47:24.700 --> 01:47:27.220]  at their financials, they are sitting on
tons of money.
[01:47:27.460 --> 01:47:28.360]  Tons of money.
[01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:29.980]  If you look at their financials.
[01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:30.680]  I don't know if they did.
[01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:33.780]  But everybody's asking for $10,000.
[01:47:33.780 --> 01:47:34.480]  You're $10,000.
[01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:35.520]  You're $2,000.
[01:47:35.620 --> 01:47:35.760]  Yeah.
[01:47:36.220 --> 01:47:36.900]  That's the question.
[01:47:37.040 --> 01:47:39.260]  I don't know who you're saying yes to and
who you're saying no to.
[01:47:40.460 --> 01:47:42.100]  Usually the ones that don't have any
money.
[01:47:42.580 --> 01:47:45.640]  Do you ask for their financials?
[01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:51.140]  Because like when I'm on the Community
Foundation grant, we ask for their
[01:47:51.140 --> 01:47:51.640]  financials.
[01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:53.680]  Same with the REMC grant.
[01:47:53.840 --> 01:47:57.020]  When you get their financials,
it's like they're sitting on tons of
[01:47:57.020 --> 01:47:57.380]  money.
[01:47:57.700 --> 01:48:02.220]  And we're trying to cut, you know,
plus your taxpayers are already paying.
[01:48:03.040 --> 01:48:04.780]  So can you do me a favor, Matt?
[01:48:05.100 --> 01:48:05.360]  Yep.
[01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:13.420]  Can you say this is my, this is our
commissioner's priorities that we give
[01:48:13.420 --> 01:48:14.080]  money to?
[01:48:16.720 --> 01:48:19.880]  So, which ones do you have on here that
we're currently giving to?
[01:48:23.500 --> 01:48:24.620]  I'm looking, hold on.
[01:48:25.660 --> 01:48:28.060]  Our senior center would be a priority.
[01:48:29.060 --> 01:48:31.420]  I know they operate on a shoestring.
[01:48:32.080 --> 01:48:32.800]  They do.
[01:48:34.140 --> 01:48:35.500]  They bought the homeless shelter.
[01:48:35.740 --> 01:48:40.500]  The wayside end, at one point they didn't
have that money to fix their leaky roof.
[01:48:41.400 --> 01:48:45.500]  Anybody that's got money that doesn't need
our money, we typically would probably
[01:48:45.500 --> 01:48:45.820]  save.
[01:48:45.820 --> 01:48:48.800]  Right, but how do you know that if you
don't ask for their financials?
[01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:49.440]  You know what I mean?
[01:48:50.540 --> 01:48:53.360]  Typically, we just know which ones do and
which ones don't.
[01:48:53.620 --> 01:48:57.440]  I don't think we give it really to anybody
that has money.
[01:48:57.700 --> 01:48:58.900]  Have you been given to CASA?
[01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:01.820]  It looks like it.
[01:49:01.940 --> 01:49:02.340]  Maybe.
[01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:03.260]  I don't think so.
[01:49:05.400 --> 01:49:06.940]  I'm on page 12.
[01:49:07.280 --> 01:49:08.460]  I've got to look to see.
[01:49:09.180 --> 01:49:10.560]  Yeah, the coordinating council.
[01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:13.060]  That would be incredible.
[01:49:18.140 --> 01:49:22.020]  So let me ask you a question.
[01:49:22.200 --> 01:49:26.400]  If there's some on there that you know
don't need the money, why don't you just
[01:49:26.400 --> 01:49:26.820]  tell us?
[01:49:27.160 --> 01:49:32.060]  Well, I'm not against the Coordinated
Counsel because I was on that board,
[01:49:32.160 --> 01:49:36.380]  but all the trustees already pay into that
tax dollars.
[01:49:36.900 --> 01:49:38.820]  But it's what the trustees pay.
[01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:40.060]  I know because my wife's a treasurer.
[01:49:40.060 --> 01:49:40.420]  Right.
[01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:42.280]  And I used to be the treasurer of that.
[01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:53.240]  Well, that was over the shelter.
[01:49:53.420 --> 01:49:54.960]  Yes, because I was still on the board
then.
[01:49:58.840 --> 01:49:59.280]  Right,
[01:50:03.740 --> 01:50:04.120]  I agree.
[01:50:04.300 --> 01:50:05.440]  I'm not against it.
[01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:06.260]  I'm just saying.
[01:50:06.260 --> 01:50:08.180]  That's why we typically do that one.
[01:50:09.300 --> 01:50:12.560]  I think you'll see that we really don't
give it to anybody.
[01:50:16.140 --> 01:50:19.320]  If you catch it, just let us know and we
will do it.
[01:50:23.040 --> 01:50:23.960]  See, like this.
[01:50:25.100 --> 01:50:28.360]  This is the list of them here.
[01:50:29.320 --> 01:50:34.040]  I think that's where all of them are at.
[01:50:41.940 --> 01:50:45.060]  Yeah, like that ARC disabilities.
[01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:47.000]  Do we even have that in Tennessee County?
[01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:47.780]  Isn't that out of Seymour?
[01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:56.780]  No, because the Elmore Association of
Recurrent Citizens is here.
[01:50:56.800 --> 01:51:00.020]  Right, right, because Luann used to be on
that board, but they dissolved.
[01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:03.480]  It's out of Seymour.
[01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:08.440]  They're still acting because they used the
community building to put on a dance.
[01:51:13.890 --> 01:51:16.330]  I mean it's just hard to say no to any of
them.
[01:51:16.330 --> 01:51:17.090]  Right, it is.
[01:51:25.790 --> 01:51:27.370]  Yeah, that's the one you just gave me.
[01:51:27.550 --> 01:51:28.210]  I'm sorry, what?
[01:51:28.430 --> 01:51:30.510]  You said domestic violence isn't really
closed?
[01:51:31.930 --> 01:51:33.250]  Yeah, they closed the shelter.
[01:51:34.210 --> 01:51:36.390]  So if they come in and ask...
[01:51:38.850 --> 01:51:39.870]  I don't know.
[01:51:39.870 --> 01:51:45.390]  I mean to my knowledge there's not a
brick-and-mortar office, so what would the
[01:51:45.390 --> 01:51:46.470]  expenses be?
[01:51:46.610 --> 01:51:48.990]  I think they're sending everyone to
Turning Point.
[01:51:49.750 --> 01:51:50.190]  Yes.
[01:51:53.750 --> 01:51:55.150]  I can ask Brian.
[01:51:55.190 --> 01:51:59.990]  Brian and I, Brian was the president and I
was the treasurer, but we dissolved all of
[01:51:59.990 --> 01:52:00.190]  that.
[01:52:00.290 --> 01:52:03.530]  So I can't imagine that there would be any
expense to that this year.
[01:52:04.330 --> 01:52:07.030]  Well, see, this is what they spent.
[01:52:08.910 --> 01:52:10.330]  But this is what they spent.
[01:52:10.710 --> 01:52:11.370]  Soldiers' markers.
[01:52:11.730 --> 01:52:12.670]  When you want it.
[01:52:12.810 --> 01:52:13.530]  Yes, you do.
[01:52:15.450 --> 01:52:21.130]  If that money's not used, like Matt,
like the soldiers' markers and stuff like
[01:52:21.130 --> 01:52:21.270]  that.
[01:52:21.310 --> 01:52:24.230]  If that money's not used, it just goes
right back into the general anyway,
[01:52:24.450 --> 01:52:24.650]  correct?
[01:52:24.830 --> 01:52:24.990]  Mm-hmm.
[01:52:29.900 --> 01:52:31.940]  Yeah, I mean...
[01:52:32.500 --> 01:52:34.260]  They spent $600.
[01:52:34.440 --> 01:52:35.840]  They're requesting $6,000.
[01:52:38.820 --> 01:52:42.640]  It's not necessarily money back in the
general fund as much as it is reducing
[01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:45.340]  your budget if you change that number
because you're over budgeting.
[01:52:46.240 --> 01:52:48.060]  I think we put...
[01:52:48.060 --> 01:52:50.900]  That Thrive Alliance, that nothing's been
spent out of it.
[01:52:51.060 --> 01:52:52.420]  Are they still in service, too?
[01:52:52.420 --> 01:52:54.320]  I think you put $2,500 in there.
[01:52:54.440 --> 01:52:58.360]  So the Thrive Alliance was one of those
ones that, remember when they did away
[01:52:58.360 --> 01:53:04.320]  with transporting the James County
citizens in the van and they were doing it
[01:53:04.320 --> 01:53:05.120]  for the other counties?
[01:53:07.440 --> 01:53:08.720]  I do have another question.
[01:53:09.260 --> 01:53:17.400]  But we still budgeted $5,000 for it,
it looks like.
[01:53:18.300 --> 01:53:20.800]  So I think we can take that out.
[01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:22.140]  Which one?
[01:53:22.420 --> 01:53:23.020]  Thrive Alliance.
[01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:28.600]  That $5,000?
[01:53:29.340 --> 01:53:31.460]  So Matt, I've got a question for you then.
[01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:33.380]  Catch a ride was the name of the program.
[01:53:33.380 --> 01:53:34.000]  Okay.
[01:53:34.180 --> 01:53:34.620]  Okay.
[01:53:35.960 --> 01:53:37.520]  Volunteer fire department insurance.
[01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:40.260]  The $92,000.
[01:53:40.420 --> 01:53:43.480]  Is that, that's out of $1,000 of funds.
[01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:46.740]  Insurance, is that for their equipment?
[01:53:47.320 --> 01:53:50.780]  So a question I got for you then with
that, because I thought that's what that
[01:53:50.780 --> 01:53:51.020]  was.
[01:53:52.300 --> 01:53:59.320]  So how do you control that as far as if
they go buy a new piece of equipment and
[01:53:59.320 --> 01:54:02.480]  they just do it without asking you and
they tie it to our insurance?
[01:54:02.480 --> 01:54:13.780]  So when this originally started,
the commissioners voted to give them
[01:54:13.780 --> 01:54:20.520]  $60,000 split up between the departments
to help with the reinsurance, to keep all
[01:54:20.520 --> 01:54:21.160]  their hoovers open.
[01:54:22.480 --> 01:54:27.660]  And then all of a sudden, exactly what you
said started happening.
[01:54:27.860 --> 01:54:30.560]  They traded trucks, and they traded
trucks.
[01:54:35.160 --> 01:54:41.120]  The way the commissioners at the time made
for that to be was, $60,000 was the
[01:54:41.120 --> 01:54:47.040]  number, was the flat fee, and when you
went above that, it was on them.
[01:54:48.240 --> 01:54:50.680]  I don't know how that...
[01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:53.100]  I think we need to get that back down
where it belongs.
[01:54:53.220 --> 01:54:55.620]  It needs reining to a number.
[01:54:56.080 --> 01:54:59.020]  Because what I've been doing, I've been
doing a little looking at the research.
[01:54:59.020 --> 01:55:03.620]  So what they're doing is, if they buy a
piece of new equipment, it's insured,
[01:55:03.660 --> 01:55:07.580]  and it costs more, and they're still
insuring the old one that's sitting there.
[01:55:08.800 --> 01:55:14.680]  Now, in some cases, I know with the county
garage and the sheriff's department,
[01:55:14.740 --> 01:55:19.080]  I've been watching them really closely,
and they've been deleting it off the
[01:55:19.080 --> 01:55:19.420]  insurance.
[01:55:20.540 --> 01:55:21.860]  This keeps going up.
[01:55:21.860 --> 01:55:26.480]  We've been staying on all the fire
departments that come to us regularly,
[01:55:26.500 --> 01:55:28.100]  like when the sheriff got new cars.
[01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:35.700]  I mean, Charlie can tell you that I said,
any real ones, come on.
[01:55:36.400 --> 01:55:40.800]  So we've been hit, but the fire
departments really never come to us so
[01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:41.600]  that we can get them.
[01:55:41.800 --> 01:55:47.320]  And maybe that will be a requirement,
that they bring us an inventory list
[01:55:47.320 --> 01:55:48.080]  and...
[01:55:48.540 --> 01:55:50.680]  I think you have to cap it though,
like I said.
[01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:53.780]  I think we need to cap it now.
[01:55:54.700 --> 01:55:55.920]  I don't like this.
[01:55:56.300 --> 01:55:58.300]  It started, I don't even understand this.
[01:55:58.900 --> 01:56:08.980]  It was $145.90 in 25 and then the budget
was, then there was $80 and then the
[01:56:08.980 --> 01:56:10.420]  spending authority was $80.
[01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:13.260]  And they've already spent $41,000.
[01:56:13.260 --> 01:56:14.720]  They spent over half of it, yeah.
[01:56:15.380 --> 01:56:17.060]  I'm so confused with that.
[01:56:17.260 --> 01:56:19.880]  I think that was in the wrong line,
this one wasn't.
[01:56:22.950 --> 01:56:23.790]  Maybe not.
[01:56:24.970 --> 01:56:33.010]  I think what they were doing there,
that 140, I think that's where we started
[01:56:33.010 --> 01:56:33.310]  at.
[01:56:33.790 --> 01:56:35.210]  So anyway, back to what I was saying.
[01:56:35.370 --> 01:56:37.250]  So what's your guys' thoughts on that?
[01:56:37.950 --> 01:56:40.510]  No, he's... hold on, that's not...
[01:56:41.290 --> 01:56:44.890]  No, because there's a volunteer fire
department line, the 260.
[01:56:45.450 --> 01:56:47.010]  Yeah, that's where it is now.
[01:56:47.030 --> 01:56:48.690]  I get that now, but that's not where...
[01:56:48.690 --> 01:56:50.310]  Separate from the 140 that was...
[01:56:50.310 --> 01:56:51.330]  Oh, okay.
[01:56:51.330 --> 01:56:51.590]  Yes.
[01:56:51.750 --> 01:56:55.950]  Those are two different... that we're
paying out of.
[01:56:55.990 --> 01:56:57.770]  So yes, they did spend $140,000.
[01:56:58.490 --> 01:57:03.090]  They spent $140,000 out of that insurance
line in 2025.
[01:57:03.350 --> 01:57:04.230]  That was the expenditures.
[01:57:04.570 --> 01:57:05.050]  Yeah.
[01:57:05.630 --> 01:57:06.610]  For insurance.
[01:57:06.830 --> 01:57:09.250]  So we'll start in the 60s and have
$140,000.
[01:57:09.670 --> 01:57:10.750]  That's what they pay.
[01:57:10.970 --> 01:57:11.870]  That's what they spent.
[01:57:12.070 --> 01:57:13.750]  We appropriated.
[01:57:13.770 --> 01:57:16.470]  We budgeted $80,000 for 2026.
[01:57:17.890 --> 01:57:19.210]  That's their spending authority.
[01:57:19.310 --> 01:57:20.950]  They've already spent $41,000.
[01:57:20.950 --> 01:57:23.590]  You requested $92,000 out of that by June.
[01:57:25.130 --> 01:57:32.390]  You requested $92,000 and that's what the
council, the Finance Committee approved
[01:57:32.390 --> 01:57:32.730]  $92,000.
[01:57:32.730 --> 01:57:34.010]  No, we didn't approve anything yet.
[01:57:34.750 --> 01:57:36.050]  Well, proposed budget.
[01:57:36.310 --> 01:57:38.650]  Yeah, we budgeted $92,000.
[01:57:38.810 --> 01:57:41.050]  I think we need to... cut that back to
$80,000.
[01:57:41.230 --> 01:57:42.650]  I think we need to cut it to...
[01:57:46.420 --> 01:57:50.700]  we will cut it to... it's in the
Commissioner's budget.
[01:57:50.700 --> 01:57:52.280]  You guys know what you're capable of.
[01:57:52.420 --> 01:57:54.140]  I mean, we have a million dollars for
better than you.
[01:57:54.380 --> 01:57:56.040]  We're upside down right now, big time.
[01:57:56.280 --> 01:57:57.900]  A million dollars over right now.
[01:57:57.940 --> 01:58:01.400]  I think we need to get it down,
I think we need to get it down to 75.
[01:58:05.660 --> 01:58:07.420]  Because we're giving them $260.
[01:58:08.180 --> 01:58:11.640]  That's for their personal insurance.
[01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:18.020]  The $260 is for their insurance for each
fireman, correct?
[01:58:19.980 --> 01:58:22.320]  I didn't know anything about the 260.
[01:58:23.120 --> 01:58:25.200]  I assume that's something that you guys
did.
[01:58:25.400 --> 01:58:27.500]  Well, the 260 is what we give each
department.
[01:58:27.820 --> 01:58:31.780]  And is it specified what that's to be
spent for?
[01:58:32.120 --> 01:58:33.900]  This is spent for their operations.
[01:58:35.580 --> 01:58:37.460]  And when did that process start?
[01:58:37.640 --> 01:58:38.480]  Because I didn't even know.
[01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:39.360]  I mean, I did.
[01:58:39.540 --> 01:58:40.680]  I heard about it this year.
[01:58:40.900 --> 01:58:43.780]  That started 10 years ago.
[01:58:46.700 --> 01:58:52.860]  So what I'm thinking is volunteer fireman
insurance is not necessarily on their
[01:58:52.860 --> 01:58:53.340]  vehicles.
[01:58:53.620 --> 01:58:56.620]  It is on them personally.
[01:58:57.300 --> 01:59:01.940]  Yes, because each department has to carry
insurance on their firemen.
[01:59:02.040 --> 01:59:04.400]  And you agreed to pay that for them.
[01:59:04.500 --> 01:59:05.800]  So that's where that money is.
[01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:06.940]  That doesn't have anything to do with the
vehicles.
[01:59:06.940 --> 01:59:07.180]  The vehicles.
[01:59:07.440 --> 01:59:10.480]  The vehicles would come out of probably...
[01:59:12.760 --> 01:59:13.720]  The vehicles?
[01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:15.000]  Yes.
[01:59:15.100 --> 01:59:16.200]  Our insurance...
[01:59:16.200 --> 01:59:17.240]  It would be lumped in with...
[01:59:17.240 --> 01:59:18.440]  What we agreed was for the vehicles.
[01:59:19.040 --> 01:59:20.340]  That's what the commissioner said.
[01:59:20.380 --> 01:59:21.420]  Yeah, that's all I agreed to.
[01:59:21.620 --> 01:59:22.580]  I know that for a fact.
[01:59:22.580 --> 01:59:23.820]  We agreed for vehicles.
[01:59:24.240 --> 01:59:24.720]  Right.
[01:59:25.940 --> 01:59:27.920]  We didn't agree to anything else.
[01:59:28.100 --> 01:59:28.960]  Anything medical.
[01:59:29.160 --> 01:59:29.880]  That's not medical.
[01:59:30.040 --> 01:59:30.260]  We don't...
[01:59:30.260 --> 01:59:31.340]  I'm not saying medical.
[01:59:31.540 --> 01:59:33.980]  There's an insurance that each fireman
carries.
[01:59:33.980 --> 01:59:34.320]  Liability.
[01:59:34.320 --> 01:59:40.100]  I thought that's what they told me that
was for.
[01:59:40.260 --> 01:59:41.080]  We need to find it.
[01:59:41.180 --> 01:59:41.400]  Yeah.
[01:59:41.420 --> 01:59:43.900]  I don't think... that's not on us to pay
that.
[01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:45.700]  It was liability.
[01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:46.600]  We need liability.
[01:59:46.900 --> 01:59:47.920]  Well, it isn't on us.
[01:59:48.040 --> 01:59:48.680]  We're paying it.
[01:59:48.820 --> 01:59:51.040]  I thought that they had agreed to.
[01:59:52.020 --> 01:59:52.680]  They had?
[01:59:52.960 --> 01:59:54.020]  The commissioners.
[01:59:54.980 --> 01:59:59.800]  That's what I was told when I asked about
that before, is that it was insurance on
[01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:00.780]  each fireman.
[02:00:00.780 --> 02:00:03.440]  Hey Matt, just put that down and we'll
discuss it.
[02:00:03.460 --> 02:00:06.860]  Try to get that... we'll dig into that and
find out exactly what's going on.
[02:00:07.020 --> 02:00:10.760]  And the commissioners sound like the
commissioners are okay with paying for the
[02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:15.420]  equipment to a certain point and then
nothing else.
[02:00:15.660 --> 02:00:18.400]  Do you know how much the equipment was
that you guys agreed to pay?
[02:00:19.020 --> 02:00:20.760]  No, because they keep trading.
[02:00:20.980 --> 02:00:24.100]  We agreed to $60,000 a year.
[02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:27.380]  And then it's morphed into this number.
[02:00:27.380 --> 02:00:34.320]  So, that $260,000 I think encompasses it,
because when we started here, that payment
[02:00:34.320 --> 02:00:37.180]  to the volunteer fire department was
$200,000.
[02:00:37.460 --> 02:00:39.800]  You guys upped it to $260,000.
[02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:40.960]  $240,000 and $260,000.
[02:00:41.420 --> 02:00:42.200]  $260,000.
[02:00:42.420 --> 02:00:44.340]  But there's two separate line items.
[02:00:44.500 --> 02:00:49.020]  There's another volunteer fire department
line item with a $16,500 budget.
[02:00:49.160 --> 02:00:51.800]  The insurance line item is set at $80,000.
[02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:53.380]  So there's three line items.
[02:00:53.780 --> 02:00:54.420]  Shouldn't be.
[02:00:54.460 --> 02:00:55.340]  There sure ought to be two.
[02:00:55.340 --> 02:01:02.340]  So, yeah, but what I'm saying is I think
that we pay the fireman's insurance on
[02:01:02.340 --> 02:01:05.860]  each fireman that is a volunteer fireman
that is in the department.
[02:01:06.260 --> 02:01:08.240]  I've got an idea, but I don't know if
you'll like it.
[02:01:08.660 --> 02:01:13.860]  So what I recommend you do is you figure
out what you think you can afford to
[02:01:13.860 --> 02:01:17.460]  supplement the fire departments.
[02:01:18.500 --> 02:01:23.080]  And you have one number up there and you
divvy it out to the individual fire
[02:01:23.080 --> 02:01:23.560]  departments.
[02:01:23.560 --> 02:01:26.120]  And then they figured out what is to be
useful.
[02:01:26.780 --> 02:01:31.720]  Because when we do this thing like this,
it morphs and every year it's like more
[02:01:31.720 --> 02:01:32.960]  and more and they just keep expecting it.
[02:01:32.960 --> 02:01:33.780]  If we could do that.
[02:01:33.880 --> 02:01:38.180]  Remember we dug into this because we were
going to let them do their own.
[02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:39.280]  Likely.
[02:01:39.340 --> 02:01:40.000]  If we could.
[02:01:40.160 --> 02:01:44.560]  And we were going to change that and then
Senate Bill 1 changed it that we could not
[02:01:44.560 --> 02:01:45.300]  allow them.
[02:01:45.620 --> 02:01:47.820]  It was going to bring more money into
their departments.
[02:01:48.200 --> 02:01:50.900]  Remember because the city would be picking
up part of it.
[02:01:51.080 --> 02:01:51.380]  Yeah.
[02:01:52.240 --> 02:01:55.480]  We talked about that two years ago,
and then Senate Bill 1 came out,
[02:01:55.620 --> 02:01:57.420]  and then we had to advertise it.
[02:01:57.460 --> 02:01:59.100]  It was too late that first year in July.
[02:01:59.340 --> 02:02:02.220]  We were going to advertise it for the next
year, and then Senate Bill 1 changed all
[02:02:02.220 --> 02:02:02.320]  that.
[02:02:02.420 --> 02:02:03.480]  We were going to pull it off the top.
[02:02:03.780 --> 02:02:04.060]  Correct.
[02:02:04.300 --> 02:02:06.660]  I don't know that the number ever changed.
[02:02:07.760 --> 02:02:12.520]  But what I'm saying, we dug into what was
being paid for that, and at that time,
[02:02:12.540 --> 02:02:14.740]  I think we knew the insurance for each
fireman.
[02:02:14.740 --> 02:02:21.880]  So what we'll do, Matt, is Tina and I can
work on that and figure out exactly what's
[02:02:21.880 --> 02:02:22.520]  going on with that.
[02:02:22.600 --> 02:02:23.680]  I love Matt's idea.
[02:02:23.700 --> 02:02:24.420]  I like Matt's idea too.
[02:02:24.420 --> 02:02:24.960]  One number.
[02:02:25.200 --> 02:02:26.040]  This is it.
[02:02:26.380 --> 02:02:27.120]  Divvy it up.
[02:02:27.200 --> 02:02:27.780]  Divvy it up.
[02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:28.740]  Make it work.
[02:02:28.880 --> 02:02:29.920]  But if we can make that work.
[02:02:30.060 --> 02:02:30.500]  Okay?
[02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:31.240]  Alright.
[02:02:32.860 --> 02:02:34.160]  Next thing I got.
[02:02:35.360 --> 02:02:38.300]  This is kind of just an informational
thing.
[02:02:39.020 --> 02:02:43.660]  I look on here and I look at you guys paid
workers' compensation out.
[02:02:49.920 --> 02:02:57.520]  What's going on in our county is that you
guys are paying workman's comp.
[02:02:57.780 --> 02:03:00.540]  And the reason you're paying it is
because, hey, that's what the law says,
[02:03:00.720 --> 02:03:00.900]  right?
[02:03:02.540 --> 02:03:02.980]  Right?
[02:03:03.120 --> 02:03:04.540]  You pay workman's comp.
[02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:05.660]  You have to.
[02:03:05.800 --> 02:03:07.180]  This is what the state statute says.
[02:03:07.740 --> 02:03:12.420]  But what we're doing is, we're letting
people work in the county, work for the
[02:03:12.420 --> 02:03:13.520]  county, receiving a check.
[02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:16.320]  How could I get a payday from the county
that doesn't have to carry workman's
[02:03:16.320 --> 02:03:22.920]  comp?' and so what happens with that is at
the end of the year when they do the...
[02:03:23.400 --> 02:03:26.140]  what happens at the end of the year when
they do their in...
[02:03:26.740 --> 02:03:28.260]  They get a merit rate.
[02:03:29.820 --> 02:03:33.200]  They'll find what hasn't been paid.
[02:03:36.020 --> 02:03:38.480]  And so we're picking it up for the
contract person.
[02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:41.240]  And they don't tell you.
[02:03:41.320 --> 02:03:42.180]  They just do it.
[02:03:42.180 --> 02:03:44.620]  We get assessed through the insurance
company.
[02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:47.320]  So we're talking contractors that don't
carry work & stock insurance?
[02:03:48.220 --> 02:03:49.320]  We have... скорrect.
[02:03:49.540 --> 02:03:52.960]  What they're doing is, a lot of them are
doing is, they're handing you a work and
[02:03:52.960 --> 02:03:55.100]  insurance form that says Liability.
[02:03:55.420 --> 02:03:58.640]  Well there's two forms, one Liability and
one's Work and Conc.
[02:03:58.880 --> 02:04:00.040]  God, you know how that works...
[02:04:00.040 --> 02:04:04.520]  But what they're doing, they're coming
down and letting them work under that
[02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:06.920]  liability with no work & com.
[02:04:07.200 --> 02:04:11.560]  So that liability goes on the owner which
is you guys.
[02:04:15.040 --> 02:04:21.880]  No, that has to be tracked through our
auditor's office.
[02:04:22.000 --> 02:04:24.560]  Just so you know, that has to be tracked.
[02:04:24.840 --> 02:04:32.700]  So when you're asking for the credentials
for a bid or whatever you're awarding,
[02:04:32.820 --> 02:04:38.480]  then you need to require that contractor
to have proof of workman's comp insurance.
[02:04:38.480 --> 02:04:44.240]  Because let's just say you you hire
someone's company and they show you
[02:04:44.240 --> 02:04:48.340]  liability insurance and they are attend
you know they're we're paying them and
[02:04:48.340 --> 02:04:53.320]  they got four or five employees that are
working and they're not paying workman's
[02:04:53.320 --> 02:04:53.420]  comp.
[02:04:53.680 --> 02:04:56.500]  Your county taxpayers are paying that
company's workman's comp.
[02:04:57.040 --> 02:04:58.600]  I'm agreeing with what he's saying.
[02:04:58.720 --> 02:04:59.580]  I was trying to think of what you do.
[02:04:59.720 --> 02:05:00.620]  We hire and do it.
[02:05:01.120 --> 02:05:03.940]  There's several departments that's doing
it throughout the county.
[02:05:13.740 --> 02:05:16.620]  But there's somebody's got to get handled
because if you look at that, that's a
[02:05:16.620 --> 02:05:17.340]  large number.
[02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:18.780]  You don't realize how big that is.
[02:05:18.980 --> 02:05:21.520]  We could probably pull what we got
assessed last year.
[02:05:22.340 --> 02:05:23.640]  But we don't need to do that.
[02:05:23.660 --> 02:05:27.200]  What I'm asking is if you could please
keep an eye on that for us.
[02:05:27.480 --> 02:05:28.880]  Because it's costing us money.
[02:05:28.980 --> 02:05:30.980]  We're trying to penny-pinch.
[02:05:31.160 --> 02:05:35.960]  And the other thing is if you've got a
company that is carrying workman's comp
[02:05:35.960 --> 02:05:39.600]  and they're bidding against somebody that
doesn't, you're not comparing apples to
[02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:39.840]  apples.
[02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:45.300]  And it's an extra advantage for that
person that... and then the taxpayers are
[02:05:45.300 --> 02:05:46.000]  picking that up.
[02:05:46.500 --> 02:05:47.600]  Alright, exactly.
[02:05:49.440 --> 02:05:50.660]  Okay, that's all I got.
[02:05:51.660 --> 02:05:52.420]  No problem.
[02:05:54.020 --> 02:05:57.200]  So on that volunteer firefighter
insurance...
[02:05:57.200 --> 02:05:57.300]  Yeah?
[02:05:57.440 --> 02:06:00.340]  The outlier is what you paid last year.
[02:06:00.680 --> 02:06:01.500]  The outlier?
[02:06:01.660 --> 02:06:05.460]  Yeah, because it's $25,000 budgeted,
$80,000 in that loan.
[02:06:05.620 --> 02:06:07.280]  $26,000 budgeted, $80,000 in that loan.
[02:06:07.280 --> 02:06:08.580]  $25,000 is $140,000.
[02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:12.540]  So that's... you've been doing the 80 and
260.
[02:06:13.260 --> 02:06:14.900]  How did I get that?
[02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:16.360]  Oh, we've been doing the 80 and 260.
[02:06:16.660 --> 02:06:17.900]  Do you know what we spent about it?
[02:06:19.300 --> 02:06:20.680]  They spent $140.
[02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:24.460]  There's no additional... maybe they did
come and ask for additional.
[02:06:24.480 --> 02:06:26.420]  I think they did come and ask for
additional.
[02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:28.320]  Anyway...
[02:06:28.320 --> 02:06:29.620]  So are we going back to 80 on it?
[02:06:30.780 --> 02:06:33.000]  Well, I don't think we went and talked
with the insurers.
[02:06:33.240 --> 02:06:34.580]  I mean, we went and talked with the
truckers on it.
[02:06:34.580 --> 02:06:36.700]  I know Vernon has came several times and
asked us.
[02:06:39.720 --> 02:06:40.920]  So are we going back to 80?
[02:06:41.120 --> 02:06:44.340]  And I remember doing that now,
coming back to 80.
[02:06:44.780 --> 02:06:46.940]  I think Nicky, we'll bring it up,
but she knows.
[02:06:47.660 --> 02:06:48.920]  Are we going back to 80?
[02:06:49.000 --> 02:06:50.840]  Well right now we'll see how we...
[02:06:52.900 --> 02:06:55.480]  Anybody else have anything on the
Commissioner's budget?
[02:06:57.080 --> 02:06:57.840]  Thank you guys.
[02:06:58.720 --> 02:06:59.600]  And ladies.
[02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:02.960]  Okay, give me just a second.
[02:07:03.300 --> 02:07:04.920]  What did you decide?
[02:07:22.200 --> 02:07:24.180]  But it's not that person.
[02:07:24.380 --> 02:07:25.480]  I get that.
[02:07:25.620 --> 02:07:26.400]  I get it.
[02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:27.520]  I get it.
[02:07:27.600 --> 02:07:30.880]  But I do have a different... I've got to
talk... we've got to talk to the
[02:07:30.880 --> 02:07:31.960]  commissioners about that.
[02:07:32.040 --> 02:07:32.980]  Okay, that's fine.
[02:07:33.780 --> 02:07:36.380]  About that office across the street.
[02:07:41.560 --> 02:07:45.000]  Are you going to do that here,
or like, no, I'm not going to do that.
[02:07:46.140 --> 02:07:49.660]  Well, any time it has to do with
performance or anything, because it's not
[02:07:49.660 --> 02:07:50.720]  exactly the same thing.
[02:07:50.940 --> 02:07:51.600]  Yeah, but is that good?
[02:07:52.800 --> 02:07:54.780]  But we're not in it right now.
[02:07:54.960 --> 02:07:55.340]  Oh, I know.
[02:07:57.340 --> 02:07:58.840]  This is my line here, Bettina.
[02:07:59.020 --> 02:07:59.380]  Yes!
[02:08:00.160 --> 02:08:01.500]  Don't get upset by mine.
[02:08:02.040 --> 02:08:02.880]  Don't cross it.
[02:08:06.700 --> 02:08:08.620]  Hey, he asked a good question.
[02:08:08.780 --> 02:08:13.100]  Can we go back on the contract?
[02:08:13.660 --> 02:08:14.020]  Nope.
[02:08:18.050 --> 02:08:19.390]  No, because you didn't ask him for it.
[02:08:19.590 --> 02:08:23.490]  As a matter of fact, once a contract has
been agreed upon, it doesn't matter if
[02:08:23.490 --> 02:08:24.970]  they got it or not, you have to pay them.
[02:08:24.990 --> 02:08:25.290]  Right.
[02:08:25.290 --> 02:08:25.630]  As far as I agree.
[02:08:26.710 --> 02:08:27.450]  That's a good point.
[02:08:27.590 --> 02:08:30.510]  Now, they can be workman's comp exempt,
and a lot of them will do that,
[02:08:30.530 --> 02:08:31.990]  and it costs like $25 a year.
[02:08:31.990 --> 02:08:33.610]  But what they do...
[02:08:33.610 --> 02:08:35.190]  That's a place in the state.
[02:08:35.490 --> 02:08:37.410]  Yeah, but that's them, not their
employees.
[02:08:37.790 --> 02:08:40.450]  Some of our insurance did not have that.
[02:08:42.490 --> 02:08:43.230]  Yes, sir.
[02:08:43.390 --> 02:08:47.170]  If we could get that, that would help us
to know what...
[02:08:47.170 --> 02:08:48.890]  Well, here's where you're going to get
that.
[02:08:50.030 --> 02:08:50.430]  Yeah.
[02:08:51.430 --> 02:08:52.630]  If you could get that...
[02:08:53.890 --> 02:08:54.290]  No.
[02:08:54.290 --> 02:08:55.990]  Matt, they've got a good relationship.
[02:09:02.040 --> 02:09:02.900]  What else do we have?
[02:09:03.340 --> 02:09:05.140]  Well, there's a bunch, but I can't talk
about it right now.
[02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:06.700]  It's a fine line.
[02:09:07.220 --> 02:09:09.700]  Yes, we do.
[02:09:10.100 --> 02:09:10.580]  Okay.
[02:09:12.100 --> 02:09:13.980]  Okay, that's all we have.
[02:09:14.140 --> 02:09:14.800]  Thank you.
[02:09:14.920 --> 02:09:15.260]  Thank you.
[02:09:15.340 --> 02:09:18.700]  We'll get back what... you'll get a copy
of this before it's...
[02:09:19.600 --> 02:09:20.640]  That was so good.
[02:09:20.780 --> 02:09:21.420]  That was painless.
[02:09:22.400 --> 02:09:24.000]  I thought it was easy.
[02:09:26.960 --> 02:09:29.060]  You're Mr. Foster Miller, right?
[02:09:30.660 --> 02:09:31.480]  Where's probation?
[02:09:43.630 --> 02:09:44.030]  Yes.
[02:09:44.510 --> 02:09:45.750]  Are we knocking that down?
[02:09:47.210 --> 02:09:48.650]  We're going to find out what it is first.
[02:09:48.810 --> 02:09:49.830]  We've got to find out what's going on.
[02:09:49.970 --> 02:09:52.030]  Well, last year we found out it was CUNY
Courthouse.
[02:09:52.070 --> 02:09:54.350]  We didn't spin anything out of it last
year either.
[02:09:54.730 --> 02:09:58.110]  Well... I can't... other than my notes,
I can't figure out why we jumped the
[02:09:58.110 --> 02:09:58.930]  budget so much.
[02:09:58.950 --> 02:10:01.630]  Well, I think... that's an odd number.
[02:10:01.730 --> 02:10:02.290]  It is.
[02:10:02.410 --> 02:10:05.730]  $300,000 we thought was something that
we...
[02:10:06.150 --> 02:10:06.950]  What's going on?
[02:10:07.410 --> 02:10:09.730]  We found a bunch of different
discrepancies like that.
[02:10:09.730 --> 02:10:13.470]  We've got to find out if there... and I
was talking to Sarah about her... we don't
[02:10:13.470 --> 02:10:18.170]  know if... was there some appropriations
made out of rainy day and it was put in
[02:10:18.170 --> 02:10:18.590]  there...
[02:10:18.590 --> 02:10:20.110]  and we don't know.
[02:10:20.150 --> 02:10:21.290]  It's kind of not managed.
[02:10:21.510 --> 02:10:22.490]  We're not spending it.
[02:10:22.490 --> 02:10:26.050]  I mean, that's a third of our deficit
right there.
[02:10:26.350 --> 02:10:29.150]  Well, I think we knock it down a bit.
[02:10:29.670 --> 02:10:30.330]  Well, we did.
[02:10:31.190 --> 02:10:32.490]  We took it down for a while.
[02:10:32.490 --> 02:10:35.390]  So I think there might... there could have
been confusion in the addition.
[02:10:35.690 --> 02:10:36.610]  That's what I'm thinking.
[02:10:36.610 --> 02:10:37.610]  I think it was $4,000.
[02:10:38.030 --> 02:10:38.350]  Yes.
[02:10:39.090 --> 02:10:41.310]  So it was done in there, but it wasn't
paid in there.
[02:10:41.370 --> 02:10:42.010]  It wasn't paid out.
[02:10:42.190 --> 02:10:42.510]  Correct.
[02:10:42.730 --> 02:10:43.790]  Did that make sense?
[02:10:44.990 --> 02:10:45.910]  Yeah, where it came from.
[02:10:48.030 --> 02:10:49.030]  That's what I'm thinking too.
[02:10:49.070 --> 02:10:51.670]  I think it's been done in like seven
different areas, Mike.
[02:10:51.970 --> 02:10:55.930]  So I just want to be clear that you took
the equipment and repaired it back up to
[02:10:55.930 --> 02:10:56.470]  $300,000.
[02:10:56.490 --> 02:10:58.170]  You had it at $100,000 before this
meeting.
[02:10:58.890 --> 02:11:00.070]  It's staying at $100,000.
[02:11:00.450 --> 02:11:01.070]  The whole thing.
[02:11:01.210 --> 02:11:03.190]  I thought you was taking two of them and
putting them in the hole.
[02:11:03.210 --> 02:11:05.170]  So there was two at $150,000.
[02:11:05.170 --> 02:11:06.190]  I took one out.
[02:11:06.710 --> 02:11:07.950]  You made the other one 100.
[02:11:08.350 --> 02:11:08.910]  Keep it 100.
[02:11:09.270 --> 02:11:11.050]  If they want it, they have to come and see
it.
[02:11:11.130 --> 02:11:13.470]  Caveat is that right now that's a highway.
[02:11:15.310 --> 02:11:21.630]  Highways deficit is over a million
dollars.
[02:11:22.550 --> 02:11:24.930]  I think you can put that in Local Road and
Street.
[02:11:25.070 --> 02:11:27.970]  Local Road and Street is a surplus of
$100,000.
[02:11:28.930 --> 02:11:32.870]  I think you can do equipment repairs
within Local Road and Street.
[02:11:32.870 --> 02:11:33.830]  Again, we'll do that.
[02:11:34.070 --> 02:11:41.310]  But now, on that highway, isn't that where
we're going to take that money for the
[02:11:41.310 --> 02:11:47.610]  equipment that we just bought in
September, and the payment for O'Meara,
[02:11:47.790 --> 02:11:55.230]  and then also that additional money for
the supervisor for the rest of the year?
[02:11:56.810 --> 02:12:01.130]  The supervisor will be split between both.
[02:12:01.130 --> 02:12:06.610]  Most of the employees are, just because of
the way the money comes in.
[02:12:13.490 --> 02:12:18.090]  Yeah, I think the additional is probably
in restricted for the equipment.
[02:12:18.870 --> 02:12:22.390]  Either there, or seated.
[02:12:22.650 --> 02:12:23.930]  Or it might have been seated.
[02:12:24.210 --> 02:12:25.250]  You have cash in both.
[02:12:25.910 --> 02:12:30.350]  What I'm saying is, your little road
street fund with the current budget is a
[02:12:30.350 --> 02:12:32.130]  $101,000 surplus.
[02:12:33.950 --> 02:12:35.870]  I would just shift that equipment.
[02:12:37.190 --> 02:12:43.030]  Equipment, repairs, and maintenance that's
in highway over to local industry for
[02:12:43.030 --> 02:12:46.830]  $100,000, if that's what you're setting it
for.
[02:12:46.850 --> 02:12:47.650]  That's what I'm saying, yes.
[02:12:48.990 --> 02:12:50.870]  We've got to move on, Tina.
[02:12:51.370 --> 02:12:52.770]  Okay, are we waiting on life?
[02:12:53.390 --> 02:12:53.790]  No.
[02:12:53.850 --> 02:12:54.570]  You've got five minutes.
[02:12:54.850 --> 02:12:55.230]  Not really.
[02:12:55.450 --> 02:12:56.570]  Okay, go ahead, Andy.
[02:13:06.530 --> 02:13:09.050]  I'm a stranger.
[02:13:11.770 --> 02:13:15.590]  I'm going to start off guys by saying it's
been an honor to serve the citizens of
[02:13:15.590 --> 02:13:17.170]  James County for the last 39 years.
[02:13:18.050 --> 02:13:23.310]  This will be my last budget hearing with
you guys and it's been a pleasure working
[02:13:23.310 --> 02:13:23.890]  with you today.
[02:13:36.390 --> 02:13:45.410]  I understand that part of the issue is the
miscellaneous personnel services and we
[02:13:45.410 --> 02:13:46.330]  have two of those funds.
[02:13:46.570 --> 02:13:46.710]  Yes.
[02:13:54.290 --> 02:14:01.470]  The first one is in fund number 2050 and
that's juvenile probation.
[02:14:02.090 --> 02:14:07.010]  We were told, gosh, years ago,
I actually think it was when my dad was on
[02:14:07.010 --> 02:14:11.450]  there, that's how long ago it was,
that we had to put some kind of budget
[02:14:11.450 --> 02:14:13.130]  line item in that fund.
[02:14:13.690 --> 02:14:15.170]  And so that's what we did.
[02:14:15.230 --> 02:14:17.130]  We just put a miscellaneous thing in that
fund.
[02:14:17.330 --> 02:14:20.630]  We haven't spent any money out of that
fund over the last two years.
[02:14:21.250 --> 02:14:26.310]  The fund doesn't collect much money
anymore like it used to because the
[02:14:26.310 --> 02:14:31.290]  judicial conference came up with a new
rule that said you could only charge
[02:14:31.290 --> 02:14:35.250]  families money if you could prove they
could pay it.
[02:14:35.250 --> 02:14:41.990]  So in juvenile cases, unfortunately,
the greatest population of our cases come
[02:14:41.990 --> 02:14:44.450]  from a poor demographic in our county.
[02:14:44.730 --> 02:14:48.470]  Now they did exempt one thing from that,
which of course is court costs,
[02:14:48.590 --> 02:14:49.970]  because that's their cut.
[02:14:50.470 --> 02:14:54.210]  So when the state made that rule,
they kept their part and cut us off.
[02:14:54.310 --> 02:14:55.970]  So those funds aren't going to be
collected.
[02:14:58.270 --> 02:15:01.310]  Less than five grand a year on those funds
total right now.
[02:15:01.470 --> 02:15:03.870]  So it just is what it is based upon that
rule.
[02:15:04.490 --> 02:15:08.290]  Okay, so on that, we have to name that
fund.
[02:15:08.870 --> 02:15:10.010]  I don't care what we name it.
[02:15:10.430 --> 02:15:11.690]  Well, that's going to come from me.
[02:15:11.710 --> 02:15:12.370]  What is that fund?
[02:15:12.550 --> 02:15:13.490]  I have to know what that is.
[02:15:14.610 --> 02:15:17.010]  So it doesn't have to have...
[02:15:17.010 --> 02:15:19.030]  Well, that comes out of your fund then.
[02:15:20.330 --> 02:15:23.150]  It just has to have something there,
I don't care if it's called office
[02:15:23.150 --> 02:15:23.970]  supplies or anything.
[02:15:24.150 --> 02:15:27.970]  I think the last time we spent any money
out of that was four or five years ago
[02:15:27.970 --> 02:15:29.150]  when we were hit by lightning.
[02:15:29.750 --> 02:15:33.230]  And so we just paid for all the computers
to come in.
[02:15:33.230 --> 02:15:33.990]  That's the last sentence.
[02:15:35.980 --> 02:15:37.700]  We just don't want to spend money on it.
[02:15:38.420 --> 02:15:40.480]  Whatever we want to call it doesn't want
to make any difference.
[02:15:41.160 --> 02:15:43.480]  Wherever we call it, we have to know what
we're talking about.
[02:15:44.960 --> 02:15:46.620]  Because it can only be used for that.
[02:15:46.700 --> 02:15:48.260]  If you put office funds, that's...
[02:15:48.260 --> 02:15:49.440]  That's all it can be used for.
[02:15:49.560 --> 02:15:55.360]  If something else happens, then we come
and have a conversation about what we need
[02:15:55.360 --> 02:15:55.900]  that money for.
[02:15:56.120 --> 02:15:59.900]  But you have office funds and you have
others in here.
[02:15:59.980 --> 02:16:01.240]  It's office supplies.
[02:16:01.240 --> 02:16:04.020]  What we were told there just has to be
something budgeted.
[02:16:04.020 --> 02:16:05.680]  That fund has to be budgeted.
[02:16:06.420 --> 02:16:07.100]  What do you think?
[02:16:07.220 --> 02:16:08.100]  Is that what your opinion is?
[02:16:08.100 --> 02:16:09.440]  It will be $1,000 a minute.
[02:16:10.740 --> 02:16:11.900]  He's going to know more about that.
[02:16:12.120 --> 02:16:15.840]  It's a home growth fund, so it's not one
that I'm overly looking.
[02:16:16.020 --> 02:16:17.360]  He's going to know way more about it than
me.
[02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:23.260]  Do you know why you have to budget as
opposed to like coming and doing an
[02:16:23.260 --> 02:16:24.320]  additional if you needed it?
[02:16:25.160 --> 02:16:26.000]  I have no idea.
[02:16:26.060 --> 02:16:26.840]  It was so long ago.
[02:16:27.160 --> 02:16:28.820]  They said it just has to have a budget.
[02:16:28.900 --> 02:16:30.680]  Like I said, I don't care what it is.
[02:16:32.640 --> 02:16:34.040]  Well, give me a favor.
[02:16:34.160 --> 02:16:35.160]  Can you do me a favor?
[02:16:35.220 --> 02:16:37.000]  Can we dig into that and find out why?
[02:16:38.140 --> 02:16:40.220]  Because it don't have to be there unless
they don't have it there.
[02:16:40.600 --> 02:16:41.640]  But he's saying it does.
[02:16:42.000 --> 02:16:42.640]  But we don't know.
[02:16:42.800 --> 02:16:43.700]  We don't know that.
[02:16:44.720 --> 02:16:49.100]  Like I said, I think that rule could have
came down so far back when my dad was on
[02:16:49.100 --> 02:16:49.240]  there.
[02:16:49.340 --> 02:16:50.720]  Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
[02:16:50.820 --> 02:16:51.940]  Let's figure out what it is.
[02:16:52.160 --> 02:16:54.900]  Yeah, so those rules can be totally
different.
[02:16:55.040 --> 02:16:55.400]  Sure.
[02:16:55.400 --> 02:16:56.860]  I mean, we just left something in there.
[02:16:57.240 --> 02:16:57.600]  Okay.
[02:16:57.980 --> 02:17:00.060]  And the next one is 4935.
[02:17:00.060 --> 02:17:00.480]  4935.
[02:17:00.660 --> 02:17:03.580]  So 4935 is in our drug and alcohol fund.
[02:17:03.900 --> 02:17:06.660]  That was already a line item that was
there.
[02:17:07.120 --> 02:17:12.640]  We moved to buying all of our drug testing
and drug testing supplies and drug
[02:17:12.640 --> 02:17:17.560]  testing, the lab, everything to the drug
and alcohol fund, which is where we
[02:17:17.560 --> 02:17:20.360]  deposit the money we collect from
offenders for it.
[02:17:20.460 --> 02:17:24.460]  But we wanted to build that fund up to be
strong before we moved it over and so we
[02:17:24.460 --> 02:17:26.420]  just moved it over and started spending
out of that.
[02:17:26.620 --> 02:17:29.620]  That's the only thing we spent out of that
fund in two years.
[02:17:29.620 --> 02:17:30.840]  So we can call it drug testing.
[02:17:30.860 --> 02:17:32.640]  Drug testing, okay.
[02:17:32.880 --> 02:17:36.020]  That will absolutely take care of any
issue that we have.
[02:17:36.160 --> 02:17:37.400]  That is all we use it for.
[02:17:37.660 --> 02:17:37.980]  Okay.
[02:17:38.120 --> 02:17:39.080]  Now fund that.
[02:17:39.700 --> 02:17:40.120]  9444.
[02:17:42.940 --> 02:17:43.360]  49444.
[02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:43.980]  That's all right.
[02:17:44.120 --> 02:17:45.600]  Give them the right line of your glasses.
[02:17:57.390 --> 02:17:57.810]  4944?
[02:17:59.110 --> 02:17:59.530]  4944?
[02:17:59.770 --> 02:17:59.970]  Yes.
[02:17:59.970 --> 02:18:00.270]  Yes.
[02:18:00.590 --> 02:18:01.630]  That's public defender.
[02:18:01.890 --> 02:18:02.310]  She was wrong.
[02:18:03.910 --> 02:18:04.770]  Public defender?
[02:18:05.150 --> 02:18:06.330]  Yeah, that's part of the course.
[02:18:07.550 --> 02:18:10.460]  Public defender.
[02:18:10.760 --> 02:18:12.660]  Are you getting that, Matt?
[02:18:13.200 --> 02:18:15.060]  And so you pay...
[02:18:15.600 --> 02:18:17.540]  We don't have anything to do with that
fund.
[02:18:17.760 --> 02:18:18.140]  Okay.
[02:18:22.080 --> 02:18:23.080]  What did you say, Matt?
[02:18:23.780 --> 02:18:25.140]  Yeah, what do you want me to do?
[02:18:25.180 --> 02:18:25.680]  Public defender.
[02:18:27.200 --> 02:18:29.740]  We're going to call that miscellaneous
personal services
[02:18:44.140 --> 02:18:45.580]  Was that on your Form 1?
[02:18:46.080 --> 02:18:46.440]  No.
[02:18:46.880 --> 02:18:47.860]  How did you get that?
[02:18:48.020 --> 02:18:51.440]  I'm sure I might have thought Public
Defender fell in my hand and got put in
[02:18:51.440 --> 02:18:51.620]  there.
[02:18:51.860 --> 02:18:52.360]  Oh, okay.
[02:18:52.620 --> 02:18:54.380]  All right then.
[02:18:55.420 --> 02:18:57.140]  Then we probably need to move that to the
courts.
[02:18:59.180 --> 02:19:03.640]  ...to move 49-44 to the courts instead
of...
[02:19:03.640 --> 02:19:06.840]  And then we've got to figure out what that
number has to be in Public Defender.
[02:19:06.980 --> 02:19:08.740]  We didn't spend any on it last year,
did we?
[02:19:08.940 --> 02:19:10.180]  Well, they're asking the states.
[02:19:10.760 --> 02:19:12.140]  Oh, yeah.
[02:19:12.580 --> 02:19:13.620]  That would be easy to figure out.
[02:19:13.740 --> 02:19:14.140]  Okay.
[02:19:17.120 --> 02:19:19.460]  Well, 2101 next page is another
miscellaneous.
[02:19:19.820 --> 02:19:20.560]  What did you say?
[02:19:22.600 --> 02:19:23.540]  2101 next page.
[02:19:24.180 --> 02:19:24.580]  2101.
[02:19:24.680 --> 02:19:25.640]  Another miscellaneous.
[02:19:25.640 --> 02:19:26.900]  The devil shouldn't be on a probation.
[02:19:29.980 --> 02:19:31.080]  What did you say, Dave?
[02:19:31.240 --> 02:19:33.440]  We had public defender services last year.
[02:19:43.850 --> 02:19:44.630]  What are you guys doing?
[02:19:45.910 --> 02:19:46.270]  Mike?
[02:19:46.430 --> 02:19:48.790]  I'm just talking about whether to move it
to courts or...
[02:19:48.790 --> 02:19:49.690]  We have to move it to courts.
[02:19:49.710 --> 02:19:51.530]  Well, he said this is what it was under
last year.
[02:19:51.870 --> 02:19:52.390]  Who did?
[02:19:52.650 --> 02:19:53.030]  Mike did.
[02:19:53.250 --> 02:19:54.170]  What's in the wrong place?
[02:19:54.190 --> 02:19:56.190]  Public defender services last year is what
it was under.
[02:19:56.510 --> 02:19:56.870]  What?
[02:19:57.410 --> 02:19:58.650]  Public defender services.
[02:19:59.330 --> 02:20:02.010]  So it needs to be moved out of there and
moved into the courts.
[02:20:02.010 --> 02:20:02.350]  ...to the courts.
[02:20:03.590 --> 02:20:05.150]  Because he said they don't do anything
with it.
[02:20:07.010 --> 02:20:07.370]  Yeah.
[02:20:07.370 --> 02:20:08.770]  So I don't know what's in their budget.
[02:20:10.510 --> 02:20:11.410]  What's your next one Andy?
[02:20:11.750 --> 02:20:12.110]  2101.
[02:20:12.570 --> 02:20:15.350]  2101, I didn't realize that that was a
miscellaneous thing.
[02:20:15.390 --> 02:20:18.530]  I'll have to look and see exactly what
that money was spent on.
[02:20:18.610 --> 02:20:20.570]  It looks like you do spend out of that
account.
[02:20:22.150 --> 02:20:26.170]  You spent $4,800 in 6-30-26.
[02:20:27.450 --> 02:20:30.350]  Yeah, so I'll have to find out exactly and
Dave, I'll just get back with you on that.
[02:20:31.250 --> 02:20:32.830]  I'll let you know exactly what that is.
[02:20:34.490 --> 02:20:37.650]  And I'm certainly okay with renaming
something to make it look more
[02:20:37.650 --> 02:20:38.050]  appropriate.
[02:20:39.430 --> 02:20:43.110]  That's community service money,
so my guess is that's all of our projects.
[02:20:43.410 --> 02:20:44.510]  But I don't know that for sure.
[02:20:44.550 --> 02:20:45.030]  Okay, that's fine.
[02:20:45.710 --> 02:20:47.570]  All we're trying to do is name everything.
[02:20:48.130 --> 02:20:49.410]  Clean up miscellaneous.
[02:20:49.450 --> 02:20:50.190]  We don't like that word.
[02:20:50.950 --> 02:20:51.650]  Miscellaneous expense.
[02:20:52.490 --> 02:20:55.270]  You know what I don't like, Mr. Stanley
Mella?
[02:20:59.390 --> 02:21:03.570]  And honestly, ours are all... they're all
good.
[02:21:05.550 --> 02:21:06.290]  Don't mind them.
[02:21:09.450 --> 02:21:12.870]  Yeah, I'll look and see what everything
was spent there and we'll come up with an
[02:21:12.870 --> 02:21:13.470]  appropriate thing.
[02:21:14.410 --> 02:21:15.370]  What else do we have?
[02:21:17.790 --> 02:21:18.290]  That's it.
[02:21:18.350 --> 02:21:19.250]  That's all I have for him.
[02:21:19.430 --> 02:21:20.030]  What do you have, Andy?
[02:21:20.190 --> 02:21:21.270]  Do you have anything for him?
[02:21:21.270 --> 02:21:22.670]  I don't really have anything for you guys.
[02:21:22.670 --> 02:21:24.850]  Guys, like I said, I just wanted to make
sure that you guys know that I'm really
[02:21:24.850 --> 02:21:25.670]  grateful for y'all.
[02:21:25.710 --> 02:21:26.710]  Thank you for what you've done.
[02:21:27.490 --> 02:21:31.950]  I'll continue to serve our county in some
passion, some way, going forward.
[02:21:32.250 --> 02:21:34.610]  Because I'm passionate about our county
and seeing it be successful.
[02:21:34.970 --> 02:21:37.030]  It's been a pleasure, Andy, to be honest
with you.
[02:21:37.450 --> 02:21:38.690]  We've gone through a lot together.
[02:21:39.890 --> 02:21:43.430]  But it's always, what I love about it,
when you come to these budgets,
[02:21:43.770 --> 02:21:45.170]  you're on top of it.
[02:21:45.250 --> 02:21:45.870]  I just love it.
[02:21:46.810 --> 02:21:48.130]  Generally, I'm on top of my budget.
[02:21:48.630 --> 02:21:51.410]  Today is the one time you guys caught me
with one budget.
[02:21:52.670 --> 02:21:53.250]  The last time.
[02:21:53.510 --> 02:21:54.530]  I appreciate that.
[02:21:54.590 --> 02:21:55.350]  My very last time.
[02:21:55.430 --> 02:21:56.930]  Everybody likes a challenge.
[02:21:57.710 --> 02:21:59.410]  I do appreciate that.
[02:21:59.490 --> 02:21:59.630]  I
[02:22:03.110 --> 02:22:08.110]  do suspect that it's community service
projects that we do throughout.
[02:22:08.290 --> 02:22:10.450]  Most of them surrounding the courthouse.
[02:22:10.770 --> 02:22:11.610]  Different things.
[02:22:11.930 --> 02:22:13.550]  I did have a question.
[02:22:14.110 --> 02:22:16.190]  It would really be beneficial.
[02:22:16.290 --> 02:22:18.890]  We talked last week, about the...
[02:22:19.930 --> 02:22:23.710]  You were using a fund for years to pay
[02:22:31.370 --> 02:22:34.910]  They came down with a new ruling,
I'll say it's six, seven years ago,
[02:22:34.990 --> 02:22:39.310]  that said that we could actually,
they wanted us to start spending money out
[02:22:39.310 --> 02:22:42.410]  of the probation administrative fund.
[02:22:42.510 --> 02:22:45.410]  It's a PAC fund that we were collecting
money out of.
[02:22:45.730 --> 02:22:49.390]  And so when they came down with that rule,
I immediately came to the council and
[02:22:49.390 --> 02:22:53.610]  said, We're going to start taking a bigger
portion of probation officers' salaries
[02:22:53.610 --> 02:22:58.170]  out of that fund, and we'll do that until
that fund depletes down to zero.
[02:22:58.470 --> 02:23:02.490]  And so now we've got that fund where it's
pretty close to zero all the time,
[02:23:02.690 --> 02:23:06.630]  and so we're taking that money from
different places to be able to do that.
[02:23:06.790 --> 02:23:13.590]  But we've started asking for the general
fund to pay a bigger percentage every year
[02:23:13.590 --> 02:23:16.650]  to get it caught back up to where it was,
or close to where it was.
[02:23:17.550 --> 02:23:22.730]  So that's what's going on there with this
year, and next year I'll predict,
[02:23:23.110 --> 02:23:28.010]  I don't know for a fact, but this year's
budget is a reduction in total cost for
[02:23:28.010 --> 02:23:28.350]  salaries.
[02:23:28.890 --> 02:23:35.050]  And next year's budget when it's presented
should be a reduction in total cost for
[02:23:35.050 --> 02:23:39.590]  salaries because you're going to replace
me, hopefully, because I don't know what
[02:23:39.590 --> 02:23:43.030]  they're going to do for sure, I would
think we're going to replace me with
[02:23:43.030 --> 02:23:43.690]  somebody younger.
[02:23:43.830 --> 02:23:44.410]  I would help.
[02:23:44.650 --> 02:23:47.470]  I mean, we need some young blood coming
into the prevention department.
[02:23:47.670 --> 02:23:52.270]  So there's half of what mine is,
roughly.
[02:23:52.830 --> 02:23:55.330]  So you'll see that savings over the years.
[02:23:55.590 --> 02:23:57.970]  About half would be somebody younger,
wouldn't it?
[02:23:58.210 --> 02:23:58.670]  What's that?
[02:24:00.550 --> 02:24:02.770]  There's nobody sitting in a test tube
younger than me.
[02:24:04.890 --> 02:24:06.090]  I've got to watch it.
[02:24:06.130 --> 02:24:08.250]  He's younger than I am, so I can't comment
on that.
[02:24:08.630 --> 02:24:10.710]  Well, not necessarily, because look at the
new judge.
[02:24:14.810 --> 02:24:19.330]  You know, that's what I would predict is
that over this current budget,
[02:24:19.410 --> 02:24:23.730]  it's going down a little total,
and the next budget will probably go down
[02:24:23.730 --> 02:24:24.810]  a little total.
[02:24:24.810 --> 02:24:27.850]  So there should be some savings.
[02:24:28.010 --> 02:24:31.290]  And that savings should be both to the
probation department and the accountants.
[02:24:31.290 --> 02:24:32.590]  I mean, so both should happen.
[02:24:34.290 --> 02:24:34.810]  Okay.
[02:24:35.030 --> 02:24:35.850]  That's good news.
[02:24:37.550 --> 02:24:45.490]  And my guess is that we won't spend
everything that's budgeted for this
[02:24:45.490 --> 02:24:48.570]  company, because it is budgeted based upon
me saying it.
[02:24:50.170 --> 02:24:51.790]  So can we go ahead and cut that down?
[02:24:52.390 --> 02:24:56.610]  Well, we don't know what level,
because he needs to have the ability to
[02:24:56.610 --> 02:24:57.550]  hire the person that he wants.
[02:24:59.410 --> 02:25:01.310]  That's why I left it at that high.
[02:25:01.310 --> 02:25:05.310]  So if he has somebody that he finds that's
experienced, that can come in,
[02:25:05.390 --> 02:25:06.890]  I want him to be able to hire that person.
[02:25:06.970 --> 02:25:07.330]  Sure.
[02:25:08.730 --> 02:25:09.750]  Anything else, guys?
[02:25:10.310 --> 02:25:12.610]  We'll stay on schedule.
[02:25:13.350 --> 02:25:14.110]  Thank you, Andy.
[02:25:14.190 --> 02:25:14.470]  Thank you.
[02:25:14.530 --> 02:25:16.430]  Appreciate you booking your next
adventure.
[02:25:16.590 --> 02:25:17.270]  Best of luck.
[02:25:17.990 --> 02:25:19.530]  Don't open up videos, girl.
[02:25:20.090 --> 02:25:24.110]  Yes, he's done that before.
[02:25:24.710 --> 02:25:25.150]  Okay.
[02:25:41.050 --> 02:25:41.610]  You ready?
[02:25:42.270 --> 02:25:42.990]  We're ahead of schedule.
[02:25:43.690 --> 02:25:44.710]  Are you going to wait for Brian?
[02:25:44.770 --> 02:25:45.770]  Because if you are, we'll take a break.
[02:25:45.910 --> 02:25:47.330]  No, I'm not doing anything for Brian.
[02:25:48.250 --> 02:25:49.330]  Brian's got his own thing.
[02:26:11.670 --> 02:26:18.290]  The question I'm going to have ultimately
is that I have to make a decision on
[02:26:18.290 --> 02:26:21.870]  whether or not you want a community
service work project to continue,
[02:26:22.030 --> 02:26:26.970]  and I don't know, that's costing the
county about $22,000.
[02:26:26.970 --> 02:26:27.410]  $15,000.
[02:26:27.950 --> 02:26:34.490]  $15,000 is paid to Travis Sheppard and
another $6,500 is paid to Dave.
[02:26:35.210 --> 02:26:35.690]  Yes.
[02:26:36.910 --> 02:26:37.450]  Love it.
[02:26:37.530 --> 02:26:37.930]  So...
[02:26:39.570 --> 02:26:41.070]  But that's a big deal.
[02:26:42.090 --> 02:26:43.350]  Well, that's what I want to know.
[02:26:43.570 --> 02:26:45.270]  I'm telling you, that's a big deal.
[02:26:45.350 --> 02:26:51.650]  They do a lot around our... if not,
we're going to pay a fortune to have it
[02:26:51.650 --> 02:26:54.730]  taken care of out of a different fund in
our county.
[02:26:54.730 --> 02:26:56.910]  I mean, when they're doing it,
it's savings.
[02:26:57.090 --> 02:26:57.750]  It's cheap labor.
[02:26:58.170 --> 02:27:00.790]  Well, I just want to make sure it's cost
effective for the county.
[02:27:00.870 --> 02:27:01.830]  That's all they care about.
[02:27:01.850 --> 02:27:06.430]  If it's not benefiting the county,
then I'm not going to keep it unless
[02:27:06.430 --> 02:27:09.050]  people tell me it makes a difference.
[02:27:09.510 --> 02:27:11.430]  So is the council familiar with that?
[02:27:11.550 --> 02:27:19.290]  So every Saturday, Travis has a crew out,
and they mow, and they trim, and they pick
[02:27:19.290 --> 02:27:23.790]  trash up, and they do all of these things
around, mostly in Vernon.
[02:27:25.290 --> 02:27:27.750]  And at the probation department they mow
it.
[02:27:27.910 --> 02:27:29.970]  We would have to contract with someone to
do that.
[02:27:30.030 --> 02:27:34.090]  If we contracted with Morgans or
something, it would be far more than that.
[02:27:34.270 --> 02:27:36.250]  So I think it's money well spent.
[02:27:36.510 --> 02:27:40.430]  Plus, I like that somebody is going to
give back to their community.
[02:27:40.750 --> 02:27:41.810]  I agree with that.
[02:27:41.950 --> 02:27:47.470]  I think the other thing I want to tighten
up on that program is who else works being
[02:27:47.470 --> 02:27:48.010]  done for.
[02:27:48.250 --> 02:27:53.550]  So the courthouse is handled great,
but then they're also mowing the cemetery.
[02:27:55.230 --> 02:28:00.790]  I understand that's a separate entity,
and they do stuff for other
[02:28:00.790 --> 02:28:05.050]  non-for-profits, so the other thing maybe
you want to think about and put some
[02:28:05.050 --> 02:28:10.690]  guidance on is what your thoughts are on
that, because right now the way it works
[02:28:10.690 --> 02:28:15.710]  is I think that the person in charge,
Travis, is selecting who gets the benefit,
[02:28:16.010 --> 02:28:22.750]  so I'd like to put some guardrails on that
to see who you think should...
[02:28:22.750 --> 02:28:27.910]  Who should get the benefit from that
program as far as either non-for-profits
[02:28:27.910 --> 02:28:32.190]  we're going to limit to or who in the
community else because they have enough
[02:28:32.190 --> 02:28:36.110]  workers and they have enough time that
they can benefit others in the community,
[02:28:36.270 --> 02:28:42.470]  and they are, but I heard they went and
did the old folks home and painted rooms,
[02:28:42.830 --> 02:28:45.470]  but I think that's a private entity.
[02:28:45.650 --> 02:28:51.310]  I don't even know that that's a
non-for-profit, so... you might want to
[02:28:51.310 --> 02:28:52.450]  stick out the back of your mind.
[02:28:56.570 --> 02:29:05.130]  Do you think currently that they have
sufficient work, that they're busy almost
[02:29:05.130 --> 02:29:08.030]  all the time, or they have time that they
can do other things?
[02:29:08.530 --> 02:29:10.210]  I think it ebbs and flows.
[02:29:10.590 --> 02:29:15.910]  I've been adding, quite frankly,
I've added 100 new filings to Superior
[02:29:15.910 --> 02:29:20.550]  Court, and also I was aware that no one
was putting them on community service
[02:29:20.550 --> 02:29:56.150]  work, Jim, can we talk a little bit about
what your goals are?
[02:29:56.230 --> 02:29:59.370]  I know you and I have talked, and we met
with the Sheriff's Department this
[02:29:59.370 --> 02:30:05.650]  morning, and talked about maybe that their
food budget would go down because there
[02:30:05.650 --> 02:30:06.690]  would be less people in the jail.
[02:30:06.870 --> 02:30:10.770]  You and I talked, I think there's going to
be more people in the jail.
[02:30:10.950 --> 02:30:14.490]  So can you talk a little bit about what
your goals are, similar to what you and I
[02:30:14.490 --> 02:30:14.990]  talked about?
[02:30:14.990 --> 02:30:15.370]  Sure.
[02:30:16.250 --> 02:30:22.110]  My primary goals are... I don't want to
attack the problem we have with the young
[02:30:22.110 --> 02:30:25.670]  people in our juvenile system.
[02:30:26.050 --> 02:30:27.430]  That's one goal I have.
[02:30:27.690 --> 02:30:29.630]  I don't think we're serving them well.
[02:30:30.370 --> 02:30:32.830]  The example I'll give you is...
[02:30:32.830 --> 02:30:35.790]  It's a reported case, so I can give it as
an example.
[02:30:35.950 --> 02:30:39.890]  Clayton Stidham, 18 years old,
in December.
[02:31:07.400 --> 02:31:10.800]  My concern is that I want to make sure
that you adults
[02:31:42.100 --> 02:31:46.880]  You don't have to worry about those cases,
because they will not be sitting in our
[02:31:46.880 --> 02:31:54.840]  jails, but I'm also of the mindset,
and I've watched other judges do it
[02:31:54.840 --> 02:31:57.080]  effectively, it's a tiered system.
[02:31:57.460 --> 02:32:02.080]  They do a third of their sentence in jail,
they have an opportunity to do a third in
[02:32:02.080 --> 02:32:04.260]  word release, and a third on house arrest.
[02:32:04.960 --> 02:32:07.580]  They're not going to be released right
back out of the community.
[02:32:10.340 --> 02:32:13.020]  I like that.
[02:32:13.160 --> 02:32:14.080]  We've got to move on.
[02:32:14.480 --> 02:32:19.680]  Well, so you think our population will
stay...
[02:32:19.680 --> 02:32:21.900]  I think on felonies your population is
going to go down.
[02:32:22.160 --> 02:32:22.540]  Okay.
[02:32:24.380 --> 02:32:25.320]  I'll tell you something else.
[02:32:25.400 --> 02:32:26.600]  I'm going to say it again.
[02:32:27.460 --> 02:32:32.000]  I'm not big, and Brian knows this,
on that work release thing over in
[02:32:32.000 --> 02:32:32.320]  Seymour.
[02:32:32.420 --> 02:32:33.660]  It all appears to never happen.
[02:32:56.800 --> 02:33:00.840]  Here's the big thing about that real
quick, Mike, Dave.
[02:33:01.240 --> 02:33:05.060]  That's what's so big about this This table
needs to be turned...
[02:33:05.060 --> 02:33:07.740]  Yeah, but we thought that it should be
that way when we redid this room.
[02:33:07.860 --> 02:33:10.280]  Because these meetings are both... we
won't be talking to each other.
[02:33:10.360 --> 02:33:11.680]  I can't even hear nothing you're saying.
[02:33:12.480 --> 02:33:13.280]  I'm sorry, Brian.
[02:33:13.540 --> 02:33:14.380]  Okay, Brian, we're ready for you.
[02:33:14.380 --> 02:33:15.160]  You look good, by the way.
[02:33:15.360 --> 02:33:15.840]  Oh, thank you.
[02:33:15.900 --> 02:33:18.940]  Well, I dressed up like that before,
but I dressed up only for you.
[02:33:20.080 --> 02:33:21.580]  Brian, I do have a question.
[02:33:21.900 --> 02:33:22.200]  Sure.
[02:33:22.480 --> 02:33:24.700]  We just went through Commissioner's
budget.
[02:33:25.220 --> 02:33:28.240]  Domestic violence is no longer in
operation, is that correct?
[02:33:28.360 --> 02:33:28.820]  That is correct.
[02:33:28.980 --> 02:33:30.280]  Okay, okay, that's what I thought.
[02:33:30.540 --> 02:33:30.840]  Thank you.
[02:33:32.300 --> 02:33:33.840]  Yeah, that's what I told them.
[02:33:34.540 --> 02:33:36.900]  Yeah, so we took that out of our budget.
[02:33:37.060 --> 02:33:38.520]  Okay, thank you Brian.
[02:33:39.920 --> 02:33:42.000]  Good morning, everybody knows Jason.
[02:33:42.080 --> 02:33:44.000]  Hi Jason, welcome aboard.
[02:33:45.340 --> 02:33:48.660]  I was going through the budget,
I don't know if you just want me to hit
[02:33:48.660 --> 02:33:49.540]  some things.
[02:33:49.680 --> 02:33:54.380]  I know it looks like it was reduced right
around $6,000.
[02:33:55.240 --> 02:33:59.860]  I want to talk about a couple of those
items and see if we can switch.
[02:33:59.860 --> 02:34:02.360]  I'm going to switch some things around a
little bit.
[02:34:03.700 --> 02:34:07.140]  First is the witness fees and depositions.
[02:34:07.820 --> 02:34:09.680]  You know what line item that is?
[02:34:09.740 --> 02:34:10.740]  It's highlighted, yeah.
[02:34:11.580 --> 02:34:12.340]  It's highlighted.
[02:34:14.380 --> 02:34:14.980]  11105.
[02:34:15.160 --> 02:34:15.680]  It's in yellow.
[02:34:16.700 --> 02:34:17.600]  Page 9.
[02:34:18.120 --> 02:34:19.400]  Page 9, yeah.
[02:34:20.000 --> 02:34:24.700]  And it looks like it was reduced to $1,000
for the witness fees.
[02:34:26.840 --> 02:34:32.040]  Not real concerned about that unless we
have a serious case, such as a murder
[02:34:32.040 --> 02:34:37.640]  where we have to have experts come in and
testify, forensic pathologists.
[02:34:37.940 --> 02:34:41.900]  Just that alone would wipe out that entire
amount.
[02:34:43.020 --> 02:34:47.040]  Hopefully we don't have to use it,
but we'd like that available if possible.
[02:34:47.280 --> 02:34:51.780]  So if we could not reduce that,
that would be beneficial if we did get
[02:34:51.780 --> 02:34:52.580]  into that situation.
[02:34:52.580 --> 02:34:54.960]  Same thing for depositions.
[02:34:54.960 --> 02:34:57.280]  Usually it's the defense asking for those.
[02:34:57.900 --> 02:35:01.660]  So we don't have a lot of cost in those
unless we want copies.
[02:35:01.820 --> 02:35:05.560]  And the only reason we want copies is if
we go forward for a jury trial.
[02:35:05.880 --> 02:35:07.680]  And those are how much...
[02:35:08.260 --> 02:35:12.740]  Jury, they're generally around $600 a
deposition depending on how long they are.
[02:35:12.880 --> 02:35:16.180]  Obviously a lot longer depositions are
going to take a lot more money.
[02:35:16.280 --> 02:35:20.180]  But roughly speaking, a deposition runs
about 30 minutes.
[02:35:20.720 --> 02:35:21.960]  That's where we're going, $600.
[02:35:22.760 --> 02:35:25.440]  I want to share something with you real
quick before we go any further.
[02:35:25.720 --> 02:35:30.640]  So on these items that you're seeing in
the yellow, where we cut those down.
[02:35:31.080 --> 02:35:33.220]  That doesn't mean you're not going to get
it.
[02:35:33.320 --> 02:35:35.800]  That means you're going to cut that budget
right now.
[02:35:35.980 --> 02:35:38.880]  But if you need it, then you need to come
and ask us for it.
[02:35:39.600 --> 02:35:41.380]  That's really what we're trying to do.
[02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:42.440]  To get that...
[02:35:42.900 --> 02:35:45.660]  But we want you coming down.
[02:35:45.840 --> 02:35:46.620]  We want you in here.
[02:35:46.820 --> 02:35:48.900]  We want to see what you want.
[02:35:49.160 --> 02:35:50.880]  I want to know what it is.
[02:35:50.880 --> 02:35:53.860]  And then we, instead of just putting a
lump in there, here we go.
[02:35:54.780 --> 02:35:56.760]  I want it really tightened up.
[02:35:57.120 --> 02:36:00.120]  So you have to come here and say,
howdy, additional thousand dollars.
[02:36:00.400 --> 02:36:01.940]  And we say, okay, what's it for?
[02:36:02.080 --> 02:36:03.320]  You tell us and then we say, okay.
[02:36:03.760 --> 02:36:06.440]  But just to stick it in there and grab it
when you want it.
[02:36:06.520 --> 02:36:09.080]  We're trying to eliminate all that
throughout the whole county.
[02:36:09.300 --> 02:36:11.100]  So when you see these, that's what we're
doing.
[02:36:11.300 --> 02:36:11.440]  Okay.
[02:36:11.760 --> 02:36:12.080]  Yeah.
[02:36:12.280 --> 02:36:14.140]  Not that we're not going to say yes to
you.
[02:36:14.200 --> 02:36:15.520]  We're not saying no to you.
[02:36:15.720 --> 02:36:17.260]  It's going to be there, but we want it.
[02:36:17.320 --> 02:36:18.280]  You can come to us.
[02:36:19.840 --> 02:36:21.620]  And there's There's one highlighted in
red.
[02:36:21.760 --> 02:36:22.760]  There's two here.
[02:36:22.960 --> 02:36:26.120]  It's 1-1-9-2-1-1.
[02:36:32.070 --> 02:36:36.650]  That is... I don't know what... well,
that's our law enforcement fund.
[02:36:37.030 --> 02:36:38.530]  Our forfeiture fund.
[02:36:38.870 --> 02:36:39.470]  Which one?
[02:36:39.690 --> 02:36:40.750]  The 1-1-9-2?
[02:36:41.330 --> 02:36:43.450]  Or the 1-2-3-4?
[02:36:43.830 --> 02:36:46.250]  The 1-2-3-4 is the forfeiture fund.
[02:36:46.370 --> 02:36:47.510]  We've talked about that before.
[02:36:47.610 --> 02:36:53.250]  Those are funds we get from criminal cases
where we've seized cash related to the
[02:36:53.250 --> 02:36:53.690]  crime.
[02:36:53.690 --> 02:36:59.210]  So can you put that... so we're just
trying to name it.
[02:36:59.210 --> 02:37:00.230]  We're cleaning this stuff up.
[02:37:00.290 --> 02:37:01.810]  Instead of just being miscellaneous.
[02:37:01.850 --> 02:37:03.450]  So we're just asking him to...
[02:37:03.450 --> 02:37:03.690]  Yep.
[02:37:03.690 --> 02:37:04.050]  Okay.
[02:37:04.290 --> 02:37:09.110]  And then the other one noted here,
just below it once... let's see.
[02:37:09.350 --> 02:37:09.950]  No, I'm sorry.
[02:37:13.270 --> 02:37:13.710]  11921108.
[02:37:14.170 --> 02:37:15.990]  I have no idea what that is.
[02:37:16.150 --> 02:37:16.370]  Okay.
[02:37:16.430 --> 02:37:19.690]  So we do this angie, so that's something
else.
[02:37:19.690 --> 02:37:20.490]  Here's what we're going to do.
[02:37:20.790 --> 02:37:22.170]  We're going to eliminate that.
[02:37:23.330 --> 02:37:24.690]  Totally take it out of your budget.
[02:37:25.190 --> 02:37:27.070]  And so what happens is...
[02:37:27.070 --> 02:37:27.970]  That's $24,000.
[02:37:28.290 --> 02:37:29.450]  Yes, we're taking it out.
[02:37:29.690 --> 02:37:32.990]  So then you can give us everything back if
you produce the...
[02:37:32.990 --> 02:37:34.430]  No, we cannot.
[02:37:35.430 --> 02:37:36.090]  Good try.
[02:37:36.670 --> 02:37:37.690]  That's a good try, yeah.
[02:37:37.930 --> 02:37:41.290]  We'll take it totally out, and then when
you figure it out, you run in and say,
[02:37:41.350 --> 02:37:42.430]  oh, that's what that is.
[02:37:42.510 --> 02:37:44.750]  Then you're going to come down here and
say, here's what that is.
[02:37:44.930 --> 02:37:46.770]  Well, you can find out what it is through
the auditor's office.
[02:37:46.910 --> 02:37:47.810]  You can find out what it is.
[02:37:48.150 --> 02:37:48.530]  No, you're not.
[02:37:48.810 --> 02:37:49.250]  No, you're not.
[02:37:49.250 --> 02:37:51.070]  She wasn't able to determine what that
was.
[02:37:53.170 --> 02:37:56.070]  Anyway, you're going to figure it out
eventually.
[02:37:56.350 --> 02:37:58.170]  So then you come to us and say this is
what it is.
[02:37:59.430 --> 02:37:59.750]  Okay.
[02:38:01.270 --> 02:38:02.410]  The 1192.
[02:38:03.410 --> 02:38:04.290]  We're going to take it out.
[02:38:04.450 --> 02:38:05.610]  The 11108?
[02:38:05.770 --> 02:38:06.050]  Yes.
[02:38:06.910 --> 02:38:10.630]  So what I'll do is have Angie look into
that a little closer and if you want me to
[02:38:10.630 --> 02:38:11.590]  email you...
[02:38:11.590 --> 02:38:11.890]  Yes.
[02:38:12.550 --> 02:38:13.530]  Let me know what that is.
[02:38:13.550 --> 02:38:15.050]  We're leaving the forfeiture in,
correct?
[02:38:15.130 --> 02:38:16.070]  And then what it's called.
[02:38:16.290 --> 02:38:18.590]  And this is exactly what we're using.
[02:38:19.690 --> 02:38:20.010]  Okay?
[02:38:20.010 --> 02:38:23.650]  Okay, the forfeiture will even in,
correct?
[02:38:23.710 --> 02:38:23.890]  Yes.
[02:38:24.470 --> 02:38:26.490]  We named it.
[02:38:26.790 --> 02:38:27.850]  I want to make sure.
[02:38:28.990 --> 02:38:32.590]  Forfeiture was the 1-2-3-4-1-1-0-8.
[02:38:32.830 --> 02:38:34.590]  Right below it.
[02:38:34.790 --> 02:38:37.030]  We're taking out the 1-1-9-2.
[02:38:37.250 --> 02:38:42.430]  1-2-3-4-1-1-0-8.
[02:38:48.630 --> 02:38:54.130]  The printing and advertising, we don't
have a concern with that reduction.
[02:38:54.750 --> 02:38:59.010]  Like I said, we have additional expenses
as we come back.
[02:39:00.190 --> 02:39:04.290]  The one thing I didn't want to talk about
is the vehicle repair maintenance.
[02:39:04.370 --> 02:39:10.590]  There's one on both the criminal and child
support side.
[02:39:10.590 --> 02:39:12.310]  That was reduced.
[02:39:12.490 --> 02:39:14.870]  That vehicle we have, I think it's a Dodge
Durango.
[02:39:15.010 --> 02:39:16.750]  It has 200,000 miles on it.
[02:39:18.450 --> 02:39:21.090]  And I'm going to leave that up to Mr.
Judd.
[02:39:21.150 --> 02:39:25.710]  We have funds we would come back to you,
or he will come back to you, probably
[02:39:25.710 --> 02:39:29.450]  sometime after the first of the year,
and ask about using some of those,
[02:39:29.470 --> 02:39:34.530]  either forfeiture or a combination of
forfeiture, incentive, maybe even
[02:39:34.530 --> 02:39:39.850]  pre-trial diversion funds, ...in order to
purchase another vehicle.
[02:39:40.590 --> 02:39:45.190]  This last one we have was donated from the
Sheriff's Department, but we're starting
[02:39:45.190 --> 02:39:47.550]  to have a lot of maintenance issues with
it.
[02:39:47.710 --> 02:39:49.430]  I mean, there's 200,000 miles on it.
[02:39:49.510 --> 02:39:50.850]  There's some electrical issues now.
[02:39:52.250 --> 02:39:57.490]  What I would like to do is have more,
unless we want us to come back and that's
[02:39:57.490 --> 02:39:58.750]  fine, we can do that.
[02:39:59.090 --> 02:40:01.550]  May have to even do that before the end of
the year.
[02:40:04.230 --> 02:40:08.810]  Some issues have stalled out on here
recently, but...
[02:40:08.810 --> 02:40:10.730]  Yeah, we'll just have to do additional
appropriation.
[02:40:10.810 --> 02:40:11.570]  Is that what you want to do?
[02:40:11.850 --> 02:40:12.650]  Hold on a second.
[02:40:13.050 --> 02:40:14.230]  What's it used for, Brian?
[02:40:14.490 --> 02:40:15.050]  The vehicle.
[02:40:15.410 --> 02:40:17.130]  She's primarily for service.
[02:40:17.650 --> 02:40:21.770]  Like if we have to have witnesses appear
for a hearing, he will go out and serve
[02:40:21.770 --> 02:40:21.870]  them.
[02:40:21.870 --> 02:40:22.470]  So it's kind of...
[02:40:22.470 --> 02:40:23.770]  To ensure that they're there.
[02:40:23.950 --> 02:40:29.550]  Is that... could that be... so that's a
safety transport thing, you think?
[02:40:30.170 --> 02:40:31.590]  No, that's not a good safety...
[02:40:31.590 --> 02:40:33.290]  No, you cannot get down a safety lift.
[02:40:33.490 --> 02:40:35.470]  It's certainly... he's circling people.
[02:40:35.750 --> 02:40:36.470]  He tried.
[02:40:36.470 --> 02:40:41.230]  What I don't want to do is pay mileage,
say if he's using his own vehicle.
[02:40:41.650 --> 02:40:45.550]  Just a loan in July, he had 937 miles.
[02:40:45.690 --> 02:40:47.250]  That's $600 right there.
[02:40:47.590 --> 02:40:53.990]  So really we need that vehicle and we want
to keep Bob safe.
[02:40:54.470 --> 02:40:58.430]  So we may need some additional
maintenance, but we can always come down
[02:40:58.430 --> 02:40:58.870]  and ask.
[02:40:59.070 --> 02:41:03.970]  You're also wondering about something,
Matt, and you could... I don't want
[02:41:03.970 --> 02:41:05.590]  something in the budget is what I'm trying
to say.
[02:41:05.590 --> 02:41:10.470]  What you could do is go to the
commissioners, Brian, and say,
[02:41:10.570 --> 02:41:12.370]  tell them you need a vehicle.
[02:41:13.750 --> 02:41:19.590]  They can take that out of the bond,
because that's a capital expense.
[02:41:20.390 --> 02:41:21.150]  Right now.
[02:41:21.450 --> 02:41:22.770]  Don't wait until next year.
[02:41:22.970 --> 02:41:26.870]  I would go to them as soon as I could and
call through every commissioner and say,
[02:41:26.890 --> 02:41:31.150]  this is what's going on, and go to them
and say, we need a vehicle, and bring them
[02:41:31.150 --> 02:41:31.950]  a couple of quotes.
[02:41:31.950 --> 02:41:37.110]  And you don't have to come to the council
for that.
[02:41:40.590 --> 02:41:41.850]  It's something we're going to need.
[02:41:41.950 --> 02:41:43.730]  I really don't want to put something like
that in the budget.
[02:41:43.770 --> 02:41:49.010]  But we don't intend on... we can pay for
it out of our funds.
[02:41:49.210 --> 02:41:50.970]  We wouldn't cost the county anything.
[02:41:51.110 --> 02:41:53.570]  We just have to get your approval to use
those funds.
[02:41:53.570 --> 02:41:54.250]  Just spend their funds.
[02:41:55.490 --> 02:41:57.490]  But I'd rather do what you mentioned.
[02:41:57.670 --> 02:41:58.450]  No, no, no, no.
[02:41:58.570 --> 02:42:00.070]  Forget that.
[02:42:01.130 --> 02:42:02.150]  Forget all that.
[02:42:02.250 --> 02:42:03.650]  Forget everything I say about it.
[02:42:05.270 --> 02:42:06.850]  It's like foot in the mouth that we did.
[02:42:08.390 --> 02:42:09.130]  Let's see.
[02:42:09.750 --> 02:42:11.970]  The other thing on the cell phones.
[02:42:12.610 --> 02:42:18.270]  I guess we're on the county plan now which
has significantly reduced our costs.
[02:42:18.450 --> 02:42:23.250]  And I think Angie volunteered to reduce
that herself by $1600.
[02:42:24.310 --> 02:42:27.110]  I don't know if you want to do anything
with that or not.
[02:42:27.110 --> 02:42:31.630]  My thought was, okay, why don't we put
that over onto the maintenance,
[02:42:31.810 --> 02:42:36.370]  but if you want us to come down and make
those requests every time we have an issue
[02:42:36.370 --> 02:42:39.830]  with a vehicle that exceeds what's in
there, we can do that, that's fine.
[02:42:40.290 --> 02:42:46.170]  But I thought maybe we could transfer that
over to one of those line items.
[02:42:51.160 --> 02:42:53.080]  So how long is it going to take them to do
that?
[02:42:53.900 --> 02:42:58.060]  So what's your process of getting the new
vehicle, like next year you're saying?
[02:43:05.440 --> 02:43:11.720]  I don't want to spend money on something
they're not going to give you anything for
[02:43:11.720 --> 02:43:12.820]  when you trade it in.
[02:43:13.020 --> 02:43:13.460]  Nothing.
[02:43:13.740 --> 02:43:16.000]  You're not going to get much on trading it
in.
[02:43:16.000 --> 02:43:16.580]  That's what I'm saying.
[02:43:16.780 --> 02:43:18.740]  So why would you want to spend good money
after bad?
[02:43:18.860 --> 02:43:20.520]  Why would you want to spend good money
after bad?
[02:43:20.920 --> 02:43:22.980]  I would move on quick on that.
[02:43:23.340 --> 02:43:23.980]  I would.
[02:43:24.040 --> 02:43:27.320]  And then come to us and we'll see if we
can get you that card.
[02:43:28.140 --> 02:43:29.640]  No, you're not doing that!
[02:43:33.540 --> 02:43:35.880]  I don't know who the next sheriff would
be.
[02:43:36.100 --> 02:43:42.560]  Either one of them would probably do what
Sheriff Freeman did, say he gifted us a
[02:43:42.560 --> 02:43:44.580]  vehicle and transferred it.
[02:43:45.020 --> 02:43:47.880]  I don't know if that's something...
[02:43:47.880 --> 02:43:51.380]  You're going to be right back in the same
boat working on that equipment all the
[02:43:51.380 --> 02:43:51.520]  time.
[02:43:51.720 --> 02:43:53.300]  I'll probably have another rough on those.
[02:43:54.120 --> 02:43:57.520]  I'd just do what you said and make it move
quick.
[02:43:57.580 --> 02:43:58.960]  Do not call the commissioners.
[02:44:01.220 --> 02:44:05.840]  Now, I think if Jason has anything to say,
I'll let him.
[02:44:06.160 --> 02:44:12.020]  But we're losing three deputies.
[02:44:13.720 --> 02:44:16.180]  Myself, Mr. Trelawney, and Mr.
[02:44:19.780 --> 02:44:20.200]  Dickerson.
[02:44:20.240 --> 02:44:20.660]  He's retired.
[02:44:21.040 --> 02:44:21.760]  Oh, he is?
[02:44:21.800 --> 02:44:22.160]  He is.
[02:44:22.360 --> 02:44:24.500]  He'll be done at the end of the year.
[02:44:24.500 --> 02:44:31.300]  So, I came here before asking for a bond
for Mr. Triani before he came in.
[02:44:31.400 --> 02:44:38.220]  He was in a unique position where he could
accept that of course we don't have PERF
[02:44:38.220 --> 02:44:42.200]  and this is a lower salary even now
compared to some surrounding counties.
[02:44:42.680 --> 02:44:47.320]  I know where Mr. Jeb practices is mostly
in Jefferson County.
[02:44:47.620 --> 02:44:52.640]  They just hired a guy fresh out of law
school, just passed the bar this year.
[02:44:52.800 --> 02:44:53.780]  Just passed the bar in February.
[02:44:53.780 --> 02:44:54.320]  February.
[02:44:54.320 --> 02:44:54.440]  February.
[02:44:55.880 --> 02:44:58.760]  Handling misdemeanors only 90,000.
[02:44:59.100 --> 02:44:59.920]  With purpose.
[02:45:00.860 --> 02:45:06.760]  So what I'm saying is we may need to come
back or Jason may need to come back and
[02:45:06.760 --> 02:45:13.080]  he's in this process and he's already
begun that search for deputies and seeing
[02:45:13.080 --> 02:45:17.720]  how that plays out because I think he's
going to have a hard time just like I did
[02:45:17.720 --> 02:45:21.720]  hiring somebody for 70... what is it?
[02:45:25.140 --> 02:45:31.500]  I know that I offered it to three other
younger attorneys before Jim applied and
[02:45:31.500 --> 02:45:36.620]  they turned it down because of the rate
and the PERF and other factors.
[02:45:36.940 --> 02:45:40.640]  So that's just something that's probably
going to be on the horizon.
[02:45:41.520 --> 02:45:43.980]  Do you have anything else to add to that?
[02:45:43.980 --> 02:45:47.680]  No, I think Brian put on that perfectly.
[02:45:48.120 --> 02:45:52.280]  The deputy position is going to be one
that what we need to do pretty quickly,
[02:45:52.400 --> 02:45:57.880]  hoping for right around after Labor Day,
is getting that posted to IPAC so that way
[02:45:57.880 --> 02:46:01.840]  it can start getting some drafts so that
way we can find out, hey, we might get
[02:46:01.840 --> 02:46:06.320]  really lucky if someone does take it for
75, but from my conversation with other
[02:46:06.320 --> 02:46:11.280]  local elected prosecutors around here,
I think that's going to be a struggle for
[02:46:11.280 --> 02:46:11.520]  us.
[02:46:11.900 --> 02:46:14.280]  We need to get in there and start figuring
it out if it's going to be a struggle.
[02:46:14.540 --> 02:46:16.260]  That's kind of just giving it on your
guys' horizon.
[02:46:16.740 --> 02:46:20.080]  So you know that that's going to be an
expectation of what I see as a...
[02:46:20.080 --> 02:46:21.080]  You're going to pick both positions?
[02:46:22.800 --> 02:46:25.160]  We are definitely going to be hosting the
deputy positions.
[02:46:26.380 --> 02:46:28.900]  There's been conversations already for the
chief deputy one.
[02:46:29.060 --> 02:46:32.820]  The chief deputy one comes with a lot...
it's a state position, so it's a lot
[02:46:32.820 --> 02:46:34.020]  different from county.
[02:46:34.220 --> 02:46:36.480]  So that one has to... that one has to
cause one.
[02:46:36.640 --> 02:46:39.080]  You need a couple of retired attorneys
once a part-time gig.
[02:46:55.520 --> 02:46:58.020]  Oh yeah, I think Angie made it clear.
[02:46:58.140 --> 02:47:03.960]  It was a 90% reduction.
[02:47:04.300 --> 02:47:05.600]  I don't think she meant that.
[02:47:05.900 --> 02:47:09.000]  I think she missed some numbers in there.
[02:47:09.000 --> 02:47:13.660]  We asked that it be back to $2,500 instead
of $250.
[02:47:13.900 --> 02:47:14.440]  Correct.
[02:47:14.780 --> 02:47:21.360]  Page 10, computer maintenance,
that expenditures $2,500, spending
[02:47:21.360 --> 02:47:23.520]  authority, they've only spent $172.
[02:47:24.540 --> 02:47:28.640]  She requested $250 and what they're saying
is she really wanted to request $2,500.
[02:47:29.680 --> 02:47:32.100]  And so it's been reduced by 90%.
[02:47:32.100 --> 02:47:36.620]  But I think it's because they were looking
at it, there's only been $172 in
[02:47:36.620 --> 02:47:37.740]  expenditures through June.
[02:47:37.740 --> 02:47:42.980]  When I talked to Angie about that,
she mentioned that she just fat fingered
[02:47:42.980 --> 02:47:43.120]  it.
[02:47:43.220 --> 02:47:44.500]  It was supposed to be $25,000.
[02:47:44.520 --> 02:47:46.420]  Right, but I think we also looked at the
expenditure.
[02:47:47.620 --> 02:47:50.440]  There's only been $172 spent out of that
fund.
[02:47:50.620 --> 02:47:54.880]  So we're a million dollars over with this
budget.
[02:47:55.160 --> 02:47:56.320]  We're trying to...
[02:47:56.320 --> 02:47:58.100]  But you need to come back and see us.
[02:47:58.120 --> 02:48:00.100]  Yeah, but if you would need it,
we would just get additional
[02:48:00.100 --> 02:48:00.900]  appropriation.
[02:48:01.100 --> 02:48:02.220]  Yeah, we can do that.
[02:48:02.240 --> 02:48:06.140]  And there's also some additional funds we
can use if needed.
[02:48:12.620 --> 02:48:16.180]  This next year might be the year we have
to use some of that to help us get over
[02:48:16.180 --> 02:48:17.420]  this budget crunch.
[02:48:18.280 --> 02:48:21.260]  I don't think I have anything else unless
you have questions.
[02:48:21.740 --> 02:48:25.380]  That 1192 account you were talking about
earlier, the miscellaneous?
[02:48:25.720 --> 02:48:26.080]  Uh-huh.
[02:48:26.300 --> 02:48:29.420]  That is Sex and Violent Offender Admin.
[02:48:35.050 --> 02:48:36.510]  I'm going to have to look into that one.
[02:48:38.470 --> 02:48:40.850]  And that's $24,000.
[02:48:40.910 --> 02:48:44.850]  I'm not sure where this pound is.
[02:48:44.850 --> 02:48:46.510]  And what we're spending out of it.
[02:48:46.570 --> 02:48:48.210]  Yeah, let's get the information.
[02:48:48.590 --> 02:48:49.230]  Thank you.
[02:48:49.270 --> 02:48:50.750]  Yeah, we're spending out of it.
[02:48:52.270 --> 02:48:54.210]  No, no, no, no, there's not.
[02:48:54.250 --> 02:48:55.550]  There hasn't been anything spent out of
it.
[02:48:55.590 --> 02:48:55.930]  You're right.
[02:48:57.350 --> 02:49:00.310]  Last year, as of June 30th, there had only
been $373.
[02:49:00.770 --> 02:49:03.090]  We'll just take it out and get into that a
little closer.
[02:49:03.470 --> 02:49:03.870]  Okay.
[02:49:06.070 --> 02:49:06.770]  Any questions?
[02:49:07.630 --> 02:49:08.030]  Nope.
[02:49:08.650 --> 02:49:09.690]  Welcome aboard, Jason.
[02:49:09.990 --> 02:49:14.150]  As soon as you get close on hiring
deputies, Just kind of keep with us on the
[02:49:14.150 --> 02:49:17.430]  information about what you're looking at
so we can at least prepare for what we
[02:49:17.430 --> 02:49:18.090]  might have to do.
[02:49:19.830 --> 02:49:20.710]  Thanks guys.
[02:49:20.910 --> 02:49:21.930]  I know one more thing.
[02:49:22.090 --> 02:49:24.250]  I was looking at Superior Court's budget.
[02:49:25.730 --> 02:49:31.210]  I talked to Tracy briefly and I don't know
if Jim is going to ask for this.
[02:49:31.390 --> 02:49:39.830]  I know for whatever reason Judge Smith and
Judge Breyer don't have anything to do
[02:49:39.830 --> 02:49:41.250]  with the Prosecutor's Office.
[02:49:41.250 --> 02:49:45.830]  I was going to see if that could be added
to the Superior Board's budget.
[02:49:45.970 --> 02:49:54.070]  I know that with the county plan,
it's a lot cheaper, and that's why I think
[02:49:54.070 --> 02:49:59.750]  Angie volunteered to reduce that cell
phone amount by $1,600.
[02:50:21.030 --> 02:50:28.190]  I think Tracy will be here on behalf of
Judge Smith to ask any questions.
[02:50:28.210 --> 02:50:29.170]  Yes, he called me.
[02:50:29.290 --> 02:50:31.630]  I don't know if you are going to look at
that too.
[02:50:38.150 --> 02:50:44.410]  I get calls non-stop from officers anymore
since I've done their trainings,
[02:50:44.710 --> 02:50:54.310]  and it kind of reverses me, I think,
at 46, whatever the plan is, but I spend
[02:50:54.310 --> 02:51:01.590]  $80 in semi-cents on my cell phone,
so it's a deal for the county.
[02:51:07.360 --> 02:51:12.580]  I agree, something needs to be allocated
before we get calls on the phones all the
[02:51:12.580 --> 02:51:13.000]  time.
[02:51:14.280 --> 02:51:18.560]  I got one last week at 4 in the morning
and I didn't get back to sleep.
[02:51:19.940 --> 02:51:20.760]  Did you answer?
[02:51:21.460 --> 02:51:22.060]  I did.
[02:51:22.220 --> 02:51:23.600]  I answered my phone all the time.
[02:51:25.540 --> 02:51:31.480]  If I don't happen to answer, Drew,
Donna, or Jim, one of the two of you can
[02:51:31.480 --> 02:51:32.260]  still have the line.
[02:51:34.660 --> 02:51:36.420]  Jim answers all the time, is what you're
saying?
[02:51:42.500 --> 02:51:43.480]  I took it, yeah.
[02:51:44.600 --> 02:51:46.020]  Remember that move, get your piece.
[02:51:47.700 --> 02:51:48.960]  We'll talk about that.
[02:51:49.100 --> 02:51:52.460]  I'd make that move as quick as I could,
but we don't want to spend any more money
[02:51:52.460 --> 02:51:53.400]  on that junk vehicle.
[02:51:53.400 --> 02:51:54.580]  You're not going to get anything.
[02:51:54.900 --> 02:51:55.380]  Yeah, you're right.
[02:51:57.440 --> 02:51:58.160]  Thank you.
[02:51:58.240 --> 02:51:58.880]  Appreciate it.
[02:51:58.880 --> 02:51:59.120]  Thank you.
[02:52:00.120 --> 02:52:01.600]  Be sure to take the old ones off the
insurance.
[02:52:02.840 --> 02:52:04.920]  Yeah, don't forget to take the old ones
off the insurance.
[02:52:07.980 --> 02:52:13.440]  Do we have any contested races this year
other than clerk?
[02:52:13.740 --> 02:52:16.320]  You've got counsel, Darren Mills has got
somebody ready.
[02:52:16.340 --> 02:52:17.800]  Listen, we didn't think we were going to
get rid of them.
[02:52:17.900 --> 02:52:19.500]  We're like, listen, she's pasted in the
hole.
[02:52:20.300 --> 02:52:21.480]  She's a woman on a mission.
[02:52:21.580 --> 02:52:22.060]  Oh, Darren does?
[02:52:24.540 --> 02:52:25.420]  Good morning.
[02:52:25.820 --> 02:52:29.240]  Okay, we're going to get started with the
tears because we're running behind and
[02:52:29.240 --> 02:52:34.580]  Gary had called me, but I'm going to let
Tracy point things out that it's important
[02:52:34.580 --> 02:52:34.980]  to him.
[02:52:35.880 --> 02:52:39.540]  He said I didn't have to point these
things out because he spoke to you,
[02:52:39.560 --> 02:52:46.440]  but I guess on the judge's salary,
that $5,575, I guess by statute it would
[02:52:46.440 --> 02:52:47.320]  only be $5,000?
[02:52:47.500 --> 02:52:47.740]  Correct.
[02:52:47.760 --> 02:52:49.420]  And so we take that back down to $5,000.
[02:52:49.420 --> 02:52:51.540]  They just did that because of the
increase.
[02:52:51.780 --> 02:52:54.660]  Right, but every year we make that
mistake.
[02:52:55.560 --> 02:52:58.500]  And we gave it to the magistrate as well.
[02:52:58.760 --> 02:53:00.600]  Of course, we don't have to worry about
that now.
[02:53:00.840 --> 02:53:03.460]  Then the other thing that he wanted to
talk about was the interpreter.
[02:53:03.680 --> 02:53:05.460]  He said those fees are not going to go
down.
[02:53:06.460 --> 02:53:08.520]  Our interpreter fees are not going to go
down.
[02:53:08.600 --> 02:53:10.980]  We have an interpreter once a month for
three hours.
[02:53:11.080 --> 02:53:14.220]  She's a certified interpreter that comes
from afar.
[02:53:14.560 --> 02:53:18.280]  And when she travels to other counties,
she tries to combine that fee with ours
[02:53:40.160 --> 02:53:44.240]  So, language interpreter.
[02:53:44.240 --> 02:53:51.640]  The interpreter said the budget last year
was $5513 and the spending authority this
[02:53:51.640 --> 02:53:58.200]  year through was the $1612 and then she
requested and you guys cut it down to
[02:53:58.200 --> 02:53:58.780]  $4000.
[02:53:58.980 --> 02:54:00.220]  Yeah, we're going to leave it like that.
[02:54:00.540 --> 02:54:06.080]  And then if they want, if they need that
additional money, they just come and ask.
[02:54:06.080 --> 02:54:13.820]  Okay, so what she is saying, at a minimum,
at the fee that you're paying right now,
[02:54:13.860 --> 02:54:15.100]  it's already over-budgeted.
[02:54:15.480 --> 02:54:17.320]  It's already under-budgeted, I mean.
[02:54:19.020 --> 02:54:20.900]  It's what she needs at a minimum.
[02:54:21.060 --> 02:54:21.920]  At a minimum.
[02:54:22.020 --> 02:54:23.760]  So she already knows that she's got to
come back.
[02:54:23.840 --> 02:54:26.000]  Because at a minimum, it's $4,036.
[02:54:26.680 --> 02:54:27.180]  $56.
[02:54:29.920 --> 02:54:32.520]  Because she's coming monthly and she
pays...
[02:54:32.520 --> 02:54:34.240]  $4,056, is that what you're saying?
[02:54:35.520 --> 02:54:38.560]  Well, she doesn't have to use her any
other time, but that's at a minimum.
[02:54:40.280 --> 02:54:40.620]  Okay.
[02:54:43.160 --> 02:54:45.940]  So $4,056 is what you want to raise it to.
[02:54:47.280 --> 02:54:50.360]  And then if they're... you need an
additional, Tracy, is what they're saying
[02:54:50.360 --> 02:54:51.000]  is to come back.
[02:54:51.120 --> 02:54:51.700]  Come back to us.
[02:54:52.280 --> 02:54:53.840]  We know she has to come back.
[02:54:54.900 --> 02:54:55.480]  That's fine.
[02:54:55.580 --> 02:54:56.080]  There's a lot of...
[02:54:56.080 --> 02:54:56.940]  We're raising it.
[02:54:57.540 --> 02:55:00.320]  We're raising it to $4,056.
[02:55:00.320 --> 02:55:03.720]  Because she already knows that's her
minimum.
[02:55:03.980 --> 02:55:05.260]  Okay, that's fine.
[02:55:05.940 --> 02:55:07.240]  Is that... you've got that?
[02:55:07.360 --> 02:55:07.540]  Okay.
[02:55:07.880 --> 02:55:09.940]  Okay, Tracy, what else do we want to talk
about?
[02:55:11.040 --> 02:55:12.360]  I mean...
[02:55:12.360 --> 02:55:22.420]  He did talk about... he talked to me about
upping Tracy's salary because the clerk's
[02:55:24.370 --> 02:55:26.590]  office is being paid...
[02:55:26.590 --> 02:55:31.150]  the deputy clerk's office is being paid
more than Tracy in the court system.
[02:55:31.150 --> 02:55:40.470]  The judge spoke to me and said,
a court personnel should be paid at a
[02:55:40.470 --> 02:55:48.030]  higher rate than someone that is in an
office as a first deputy or just as an
[02:55:48.030 --> 02:55:50.590]  hourly worker.
[02:55:50.770 --> 02:55:56.330]  He feels like the responsibility that we
are sliding are court people.
[02:55:59.970 --> 02:56:02.050]  And so he would like to see that
increased.
[02:56:02.510 --> 02:56:03.610]  What line is that?
[02:56:07.590 --> 02:56:09.170]  Uh, I'm looking to see.
[02:56:15.660 --> 02:56:18.720]  Tracy, is that the 207?
[02:56:21.400 --> 02:56:21.900]  207?
[02:56:21.920 --> 02:56:22.340]  Yes.
[02:56:23.520 --> 02:56:24.020]  Yes.
[02:56:29.400 --> 02:56:30.760]  It's a, yeah.
[02:56:31.540 --> 02:56:32.620]  I'm going to see it.
[02:56:32.620 --> 02:56:37.200]  So the criminal court reporter,
so he's asked for an increase.
[02:56:37.540 --> 02:56:38.320]  Oh, I see.
[02:56:38.380 --> 02:56:38.660]  Okay.
[02:56:38.780 --> 02:56:39.220]  Okay?
[02:56:39.220 --> 02:56:41.840]  He wanted that salary brought up to
$49,000.
[02:56:44.900 --> 02:56:47.680]  You've got to look to see what your first
deputy is making as a clerk.
[02:56:47.960 --> 02:56:53.360]  And the other thing is, I think,
correct me if I'm wrong, Tracy,
[02:56:53.440 --> 02:56:58.300]  you have more seniority than... how many
years of service?
[02:56:58.360 --> 02:56:58.520]  Yeah.
[02:56:59.480 --> 02:57:01.900]  It's what Gary had spoke to me about.
[02:57:09.340 --> 02:57:12.380]  Right now we're going to have to just
think about taking it under advisement.
[02:57:12.540 --> 02:57:15.660]  And I think that's only fair to Tracy
because it puts her in an awkward position
[02:57:15.660 --> 02:57:17.080]  because she's standing before you.
[02:57:17.160 --> 02:57:23.940]  And we're discussing her salary,
which Gary had already called me on.
[02:57:24.060 --> 02:57:25.840]  So I wanted to discuss it with the
council.
[02:57:26.300 --> 02:57:27.880]  We're going to take it under advisement.
[02:57:28.280 --> 02:57:30.420]  Because here's what's going to happen
throughout this day.
[02:57:30.600 --> 02:57:32.460]  We're going to run into this multiple
times.
[02:57:32.480 --> 02:57:35.600]  So if we're going to do something,
then we might have to do it to a bunch.
[02:57:35.600 --> 02:57:36.380]  I understand.
[02:57:36.520 --> 02:57:37.440]  And so, yes.
[02:57:37.640 --> 02:57:39.480]  And nothing, nothing personal.
[02:57:39.560 --> 02:57:43.900]  It's just we have to... we're in a very
tight, tight budget.
[02:57:44.180 --> 02:57:46.280]  I'm just relaying the conversation.
[02:57:47.180 --> 02:57:47.180]  I know you are.
[02:57:47.180 --> 02:57:48.080]  And I'm just responding.
[02:57:48.800 --> 02:57:49.280]  Okay.
[02:57:49.440 --> 02:57:49.920]  Yeah.
[02:57:50.000 --> 02:57:50.940]  What else did you have?
[02:57:51.100 --> 02:57:55.980]  The only other thing I see in Judge Smith
that I wasn't told of.
[02:57:57.220 --> 02:58:00.780]  You gave me more money on Pettit-Jewers
and I didn't ask for it.
[02:58:02.120 --> 02:58:02.720]  Pettit what?
[02:58:03.060 --> 02:58:03.780]  Pettit-Jewers.
[02:58:04.940 --> 02:58:05.900]  How many jurors?
[02:58:06.900 --> 02:58:09.880]  6100 and she only asked for 5517.
[02:58:10.600 --> 02:58:12.560]  We don't have very many jury trials.
[02:58:12.800 --> 02:58:16.920]  You did that because you raised that more
than half a percent.
[02:58:17.280 --> 02:58:18.760]  That's why you did it.
[02:58:18.760 --> 02:58:23.980]  That's what we assumed, but I don't know
what you want to do there.
[02:58:24.200 --> 02:58:25.120]  We'll take it back down.
[02:58:25.440 --> 02:58:28.080]  This here, what we're talking about today,
is not the final thing.
[02:58:28.340 --> 02:58:29.680]  Yeah, and we'll get the final back.
[02:58:29.780 --> 02:58:31.480]  Yeah, 5517 then.
[02:58:31.480 --> 02:58:33.420]  Yeah, we're going to take that back to
5517.
[02:58:33.880 --> 02:58:34.160]  Perfect.
[02:58:34.680 --> 02:58:36.260]  Anything else that you can see,
Tracy?
[02:58:36.640 --> 02:58:37.080]  Okay.
[02:58:37.340 --> 02:58:37.980]  All right.
[02:58:38.060 --> 02:58:38.760]  Thank you, Tracy.
[02:58:38.760 --> 02:58:39.860]  Appreciate everything you do.
[02:58:39.880 --> 02:58:41.100]  Have a good day.
[02:58:41.180 --> 02:58:41.720]  You too.
[02:58:42.060 --> 02:58:42.880]  Have a good day.
[02:58:47.670 --> 02:58:52.490]  Okay, we don't have our next one until 11
if we want to take a short break.
[02:58:52.550 --> 02:58:53.250]  And you're going to head out.
[02:58:53.250 --> 02:58:54.350]  I've got to break in here.
[02:58:54.510 --> 02:58:56.490]  I have a appointment with my cancer
doctor.
[02:58:56.690 --> 02:58:57.070]  Oh, yeah.
[02:58:57.170 --> 02:58:57.850]  Okay, great.
[02:58:58.670 --> 02:58:59.550]  Good luck.
[02:58:59.630 --> 02:59:00.610]  No, I understand.
[02:59:00.670 --> 02:59:02.450]  I won't be back until later on.
[02:59:02.450 --> 02:59:03.630]  Okay, I'm going to be here.
[02:59:03.950 --> 02:59:04.570]  Go get them.
[02:59:04.610 --> 02:59:05.210]  Good luck today.
[02:59:05.350 --> 02:59:05.730]  Thank you.
[02:59:07.070 --> 02:59:08.350]  Everything's good as far as you know about
it.
[02:59:08.410 --> 02:59:08.770]  Just check it.
[02:59:08.910 --> 02:59:13.830]  Yeah, well, I have one issue that he has
to do with my medication that I have to be
[02:59:13.830 --> 02:59:14.450]  adjusted to.
[02:59:14.750 --> 02:59:16.410]  That's the Alzheimer's medicine?
[02:59:16.650 --> 02:59:20.730]  If I reschedule it six months before I can
reschedule it again, I've got something
[02:59:20.730 --> 02:59:20.970]  wrong.
[02:59:25.430 --> 02:59:28.530]  I just don't like it because they're
saying it will be a problem.
[02:59:28.810 --> 02:59:30.330]  No, they're consistent, not new.
[02:59:30.650 --> 02:59:31.730]  But they're calling people.
[02:59:31.830 --> 02:59:32.850]  They're saying it will be a problem.
[02:59:39.350 --> 02:59:42.830]  You and Dave, let me know later on if
there's any good things that came up.
[02:59:43.370 --> 02:59:44.330]  I missed out.
[02:59:44.530 --> 02:59:45.590]  Well, Dave, thank you, Dave.
[02:59:46.150 --> 02:59:46.550]  Thanks.
[02:59:46.950 --> 02:59:47.350]  Hey!
[02:59:54.130 --> 02:59:54.930]  We've got time.
[02:59:58.510 --> 02:59:59.590]  We've got about five minutes.
[02:59:59.590 --> 03:00:00.470]  We've got four minutes.
[03:00:04.970 --> 03:00:06.890]  Are you still freezing, Jerry?
[03:00:07.070 --> 03:00:08.550]  I'm going home to get a coke.
[03:00:08.790 --> 03:00:09.330]  I can't.
[03:00:10.650 --> 03:00:12.590]  Who did you say has got the...
[03:00:13.670 --> 03:00:14.630]  EMS is next.
[03:00:15.750 --> 03:00:16.230]  Opposed?
[03:00:16.450 --> 03:00:17.850]  What are the opposed races?
[03:00:18.290 --> 03:00:18.950]  Who's running?
[03:00:19.110 --> 03:00:20.490]  Darren Mills and Ken...
[03:00:20.990 --> 03:00:21.970]  Who's running against them?
[03:00:22.210 --> 03:00:24.350]  There's a couple of schoolteachers
running.
[03:00:26.090 --> 03:00:28.890]  There's somebody running against Darren in
your position.
[03:00:29.750 --> 03:00:32.370]  Yeah, it was a lady on the Democrat Party.
[03:00:32.410 --> 03:00:32.950]  She's a schoolteacher.
[03:00:33.470 --> 03:00:34.930]  She's made several comments.
[03:00:36.070 --> 03:00:37.170]  I don't know her.
[03:00:37.410 --> 03:00:38.190]  Where's EMS at?
[03:00:38.250 --> 03:00:39.130]  Am I looking right at it?
[03:00:39.890 --> 03:00:43.110]  Uh, Tracy, we're just taking a short break
with rules.
[03:00:44.370 --> 03:00:45.590]  Yep, no, you're fine.
[03:00:46.390 --> 03:00:48.170]  23 and 24 to end.
[03:00:48.390 --> 03:00:48.810]  Yep.
[03:00:50.390 --> 03:00:51.350]  Emergency management.
[03:00:51.390 --> 03:00:52.050]  There it is.
[03:00:52.290 --> 03:00:52.350]  Yep.
[03:00:53.090 --> 03:00:53.570]  Gosh.
[03:00:59.890 --> 03:01:05.290]  There's going to be some, honestly guys,
there's going to be some hard fricking
[03:01:05.290 --> 03:01:06.830]  decisions made over our drama.
[03:01:13.910 --> 03:01:15.790]  He hated by everybody.
[03:01:18.700 --> 03:01:19.920]  You want me to order pizza?
[03:01:21.320 --> 03:01:24.340]  I'm going to lunch with Aaron Houchin at
1230.
[03:01:25.260 --> 03:01:26.060]  Which you can.
[03:01:27.260 --> 03:01:28.440]  Thank you, but you're paying.
[03:01:28.700 --> 03:01:29.820]  No, I'm not paying.
[03:01:29.880 --> 03:01:30.600]  Then you can't go.
[03:01:30.600 --> 03:01:30.800]  What's up?
[03:01:31.760 --> 03:01:32.220]  What's up?
[03:01:32.220 --> 03:01:33.400]  Are you going to be going to your
announcement?
[03:01:33.720 --> 03:01:35.380]  What are we doing for lunch?
[03:01:35.460 --> 03:01:36.000]  I can have Pam.
[03:01:36.200 --> 03:01:37.620]  She said she wanted something to eat.
[03:01:37.800 --> 03:01:41.630]  Right now?
[03:01:41.830 --> 03:01:42.090]  No.
[03:01:42.150 --> 03:01:42.610]  It's too early.
[03:01:42.850 --> 03:01:43.390]  10-15.
[03:01:43.630 --> 03:01:44.150]  11-15.
[03:01:44.670 --> 03:01:45.430]  That's our break.
[03:01:46.050 --> 03:01:47.250]  We have break at 11-15?
[03:01:47.590 --> 03:01:48.410]  11-15.
[03:01:48.410 --> 03:01:49.430]  We've got 30 minutes.
[03:01:50.490 --> 03:01:51.290]  11-30.
[03:01:51.670 --> 03:01:52.070]  No.
[03:01:52.230 --> 03:01:52.730]  Right here.
[03:01:52.770 --> 03:01:52.930]  Look.
[03:01:54.570 --> 03:01:55.830]  Oh, that's my scribble now.
[03:01:56.350 --> 03:01:57.330]  So you're leaving too?
[03:01:57.950 --> 03:01:58.730]  Tina's leaving too?
[03:01:58.730 --> 03:01:59.750]  She's coming back.
[03:01:59.770 --> 03:02:00.630]  I'm gonna come back.
[03:02:01.130 --> 03:02:02.470]  She probably won't do that.
[03:02:07.930 --> 03:02:09.090]  We got everybody?
[03:02:09.450 --> 03:02:10.090]  Yeah, we're good.
[03:02:10.230 --> 03:02:12.050]  Let's go, cause Dave's gone.
[03:02:12.150 --> 03:02:12.910]  So we're good.
[03:02:12.950 --> 03:02:13.390]  Perfect.
[03:02:14.210 --> 03:02:15.470]  We're gonna have a schedule here.
[03:02:22.660 --> 03:02:24.660]  Is there a thermostat in this room?
[03:02:25.100 --> 03:02:25.540]  Nope.
[03:02:25.640 --> 03:02:26.840]  Yeah, there is.
[03:02:26.880 --> 03:02:27.680]  Give me a sec.
[03:02:28.000 --> 03:02:30.420]  Turn it up.
[03:02:30.980 --> 03:02:31.680]  Not down.
[03:02:31.780 --> 03:02:32.180]  We're cold.
[03:02:34.120 --> 03:02:35.540]  Okay, we're ready.
[03:02:39.900 --> 03:02:48.260]  So, I brought my letters and everything,
but on my salary, I had asked for the
[03:02:48.260 --> 03:02:58.160]  $80,000 because when I took the position,
I was offered $79,000 and I opted to take
[03:02:58.160 --> 03:03:01.320]  a lesser pay because I was new.
[03:03:19.660 --> 03:03:21.400]  I'm looking at it.
[03:03:21.600 --> 03:03:24.540]  I'm seeing director, but I'm not seeing
the $80,000.
[03:03:32.740 --> 03:03:33.920]  I see it now.
[03:03:34.020 --> 03:03:35.000]  I was looking up here.
[03:03:35.060 --> 03:03:36.780]  I remember the first time I looked at this
too.
[03:03:42.670 --> 03:03:43.970]  I was looking way up here.
[03:03:56.610 --> 03:03:58.410]  Okay, I'm making a note of that.
[03:03:58.650 --> 03:04:00.530]  So we've had several of those.
[03:04:00.850 --> 03:04:05.290]  So basically what we've told everyone is
that we're making a note of it.
[03:04:05.290 --> 03:04:08.550]  They're going to discuss it again as a
whole, and then move on.
[03:04:08.630 --> 03:04:11.870]  So I'm going to make a note of that,
unless somebody has any questions about
[03:04:11.870 --> 03:04:12.150]  that.
[03:04:14.550 --> 03:04:16.770]  And everything else is pretty much the
same.
[03:04:17.410 --> 03:04:17.850]  Question.
[03:04:18.210 --> 03:04:20.890]  Did you address 1170, the personal
service?
[03:04:21.210 --> 03:04:21.950]  No, we haven't yet.
[03:04:22.130 --> 03:04:22.730]  We haven't yet.
[03:04:22.950 --> 03:04:23.130]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[03:04:23.130 --> 03:04:23.530]  Okay, I'm sorry.
[03:04:23.570 --> 03:04:24.850]  Okay, I was just going to move on from...
[03:04:24.850 --> 03:04:25.370]  Thank you.
[03:04:25.370 --> 03:04:25.690]  My bad.
[03:04:26.110 --> 03:04:26.550]  Okay.
[03:04:27.130 --> 03:04:28.330]  And then...
[03:04:28.330 --> 03:04:29.890]  The miscellaneous personnel.
[03:04:30.230 --> 03:04:30.670]  Yes.
[03:04:30.870 --> 03:04:31.310]  So...
[03:04:31.310 --> 03:04:33.090]  We wanted to discuss that.
[03:04:33.090 --> 03:04:36.290]  We are taking miscellaneous out of
everyone's budget.
[03:04:36.870 --> 03:04:41.070]  So we want to, we're not taking the money
necessarily out, we want to know what it's
[03:04:41.070 --> 03:04:46.190]  used for so that we can earmark it for
that definite, we want to name that
[03:04:46.190 --> 03:04:48.010]  instead of it being miscellaneous.
[03:04:48.010 --> 03:04:52.710]  So, what happened with mine was lame.
[03:04:52.910 --> 03:04:56.850]  So, during the year, last year,
I was brought to my attention by the
[03:04:56.850 --> 03:05:02.690]  commissioners that we do events and races
and like go park track, we do motocross
[03:05:02.690 --> 03:05:05.630]  track, we do other events, and they will
pay us cash.
[03:05:06.190 --> 03:05:08.970]  And so I was told, no, we can't do that
anymore.
[03:05:09.490 --> 03:05:11.530]  So we had a volunteer account at the bank.
[03:05:11.890 --> 03:05:13.750]  It was EMS volunteer account.
[03:05:14.350 --> 03:05:15.830]  I had to close that account.
[03:05:27.870 --> 03:05:28.310]  Okay,
[03:05:32.850 --> 03:05:34.490]  so we're going to name it special events?
[03:05:34.990 --> 03:05:35.650]  We can.
[03:05:38.510 --> 03:05:39.330]  That's up to you.
[03:05:39.430 --> 03:05:41.410]  We just need a name on it.
[03:05:41.530 --> 03:05:42.010]  Well, maybe.
[03:05:42.230 --> 03:05:42.790]  We'll discuss that.
[03:05:42.790 --> 03:05:46.050]  So I have to pay them their overtime right
now, is what I was told.
[03:05:46.110 --> 03:05:46.810]  Yeah, see that?
[03:05:47.510 --> 03:05:48.970]  And that's something we've got to do.
[03:05:48.970 --> 03:05:49.990]  And it goes through the author.
[03:05:50.150 --> 03:05:53.670]  I file a claim for all of them when I pay.
[03:05:53.750 --> 03:05:56.990]  But when I get the check from the event,
I put it in this account and then I pay
[03:05:56.990 --> 03:05:57.810]  the guys out of the account.
[03:05:57.950 --> 03:06:01.150]  And it does take a little bit of money
through the year.
[03:06:01.310 --> 03:06:04.710]  But this is also my safety net,
you could say.
[03:06:04.850 --> 03:06:05.670]  See, we can't have that.
[03:06:05.670 --> 03:06:08.750]  In a year when I'm short salaries or if
I'm short part-time.
[03:06:09.150 --> 03:06:10.190]  We can't have that.
[03:06:10.350 --> 03:06:11.530]  We can't have that.
[03:06:11.530 --> 03:06:15.630]  It has to be, if you're short,
you need to come and tell us you're short.
[03:06:15.890 --> 03:06:17.250]  And then we'll make that decision.
[03:06:18.150 --> 03:06:19.970]  We've done that the past few years.
[03:06:21.490 --> 03:06:22.670]  That's how we have to do it.
[03:06:22.770 --> 03:06:26.330]  When we say we're going to name something,
we've got to make, we trust everybody.
[03:06:26.730 --> 03:06:29.030]  But we're going to verify everything we
have to.
[03:06:29.030 --> 03:06:29.570]  Right, right.
[03:06:29.690 --> 03:06:32.650]  She's telling you that's what she paid for
a special event out of.
[03:06:32.770 --> 03:06:35.390]  But we've got to make, I've got to know
more about that.
[03:06:35.990 --> 03:06:37.730]  So do we need to label a special event?
[03:06:38.110 --> 03:06:38.790]  You can.
[03:06:38.790 --> 03:06:43.070]  We're not saying that we're keeping that
account.
[03:06:43.350 --> 03:06:45.710]  We're saying right now we're going to name
it.
[03:06:45.750 --> 03:06:46.470]  Okay, I understand.
[03:06:46.790 --> 03:06:48.470]  We're moving in overtime if that's what
you pay.
[03:06:48.830 --> 03:06:50.310]  Well, we're going to talk about that too.
[03:06:51.810 --> 03:06:53.390]  What are you going to do with this account
here then?
[03:06:53.450 --> 03:06:54.230]  We're going to name it...
[03:06:54.230 --> 03:06:55.150]  Special Events.
[03:06:55.190 --> 03:06:55.790]  Special Events.
[03:06:57.490 --> 03:06:57.930]  Every
[03:07:01.500 --> 03:07:04.100]  event, they sign it, they say the hours
they work.
[03:07:04.320 --> 03:07:05.800]  So, I mean, it's all legit.
[03:07:06.000 --> 03:07:06.800]  It's all the shows.
[03:07:07.120 --> 03:07:09.780]  Everything, what came in and what goes
out.
[03:07:09.780 --> 03:07:11.240]  Tracy, I may miss that one.
[03:07:11.280 --> 03:07:14.820]  What's the one that's very... there's
another one, 1-1-5-1, that's miscellaneous
[03:07:14.820 --> 03:07:17.720]  personal service at the very top of our
sheet.
[03:07:18.000 --> 03:07:18.400]  Where?
[03:07:18.940 --> 03:07:21.480]  That one was... I missed that.
[03:07:22.040 --> 03:07:25.000]  That is emergency management non-reverted.
[03:07:25.220 --> 03:07:26.660]  That would be Chef.
[03:07:27.100 --> 03:07:27.980]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[03:07:28.080 --> 03:07:30.000]  Yes, that's what I was looking at,
too, at the beginning.
[03:07:30.160 --> 03:07:30.780]  I didn't have my glasses.
[03:07:30.780 --> 03:07:31.760]  That's why I was confused.
[03:07:32.400 --> 03:07:33.080]  Yeah, sorry.
[03:07:33.240 --> 03:07:33.820]  My bad.
[03:07:35.300 --> 03:07:36.260]  Okay, so...
[03:07:37.800 --> 03:07:42.880]  But at the end of the year, because the
salaries are all based on them working 80
[03:07:42.880 --> 03:07:44.720]  hours every week.
[03:07:44.800 --> 03:07:47.600]  But if they take the day off and they use
vacation...
[03:07:47.600 --> 03:07:48.940]  80 hours is 2 weeks.
[03:07:49.040 --> 03:07:49.480]  2 weeks, I'm sorry.
[03:07:49.480 --> 03:07:50.020]  Okay, okay.
[03:07:50.200 --> 03:07:51.280]  So 40 hours.
[03:07:51.480 --> 03:07:52.740]  So how do you do overtime?
[03:07:53.140 --> 03:07:54.220]  Well, that's a different discussion.
[03:07:54.320 --> 03:07:55.240]  But how do you do overtime?
[03:07:55.900 --> 03:07:57.540]  Anything over 40 hours.
[03:07:57.780 --> 03:07:59.460]  I get that, but how do you...
[03:08:00.520 --> 03:08:04.480]  Is it 40 hours each week or 60 and 20 in
that two-week period?
[03:08:04.760 --> 03:08:06.000]  No, it can't be that, Gene.
[03:08:07.440 --> 03:08:08.960]  Okay, it shouldn't be.
[03:08:09.220 --> 03:08:10.120]  It can't be.
[03:08:10.160 --> 03:08:11.880]  That's what we got in trouble with the
Department of Labor.
[03:08:12.180 --> 03:08:14.120]  Why there's so much overtime?
[03:08:14.580 --> 03:08:16.020]  Because they work 48 hours.
[03:08:16.140 --> 03:08:19.880]  They work two 24-hour shifts a week.
[03:08:20.860 --> 03:08:23.020]  Is there any way to reschedule so there's
no overtime?
[03:08:24.020 --> 03:08:25.180]  Not that kind of overtime.
[03:08:30.360 --> 03:08:37.840]  Yeah, but I mean, is there a way to do it
where you aren't paying an overtime
[03:08:37.840 --> 03:08:40.120]  person, where it says 40 hours,
40 hours?
[03:08:40.300 --> 03:08:40.920]  I don't know.
[03:08:41.040 --> 03:08:44.620]  Because we had talked about, when we added
that other person, that that was going to
[03:08:44.620 --> 03:08:45.520]  cut down on overtime.
[03:08:53.720 --> 03:08:55.920]  So, you said it doesn't matter.
[03:08:57.240 --> 03:09:01.380]  You said it doesn't matter that somebody's
got to work overtime.
[03:09:01.500 --> 03:09:03.040]  Well, it does matter, kind of.
[03:09:03.760 --> 03:09:06.600]  Or do they all make the same money?
[03:09:07.440 --> 03:09:08.140]  Well, no.
[03:09:08.180 --> 03:09:09.740]  It depends on their years of service.
[03:09:09.960 --> 03:09:11.680]  Then it would matter on the overtime.
[03:09:11.940 --> 03:09:14.260]  And also, you may not know this,
[03:09:44.260 --> 03:09:45.240]  I have a question for you, Tracy.
[03:09:45.560 --> 03:09:49.380]  I think you are doing an awesome job,
and I mean that, but I haven't figured
[03:09:49.380 --> 03:09:50.340]  this out.
[03:09:50.820 --> 03:09:51.760]  We've got to figure it out.
[03:09:51.940 --> 03:09:55.640]  Did you ever think about bidding out
overtime?
[03:09:56.400 --> 03:09:58.720]  Like you do, the nurses do, the stuff at
the hospital.
[03:09:59.940 --> 03:10:01.240]  Did you ever look into that?
[03:10:01.560 --> 03:10:03.800]  Like, say who wants to work?
[03:10:04.400 --> 03:10:08.100]  Yeah, who wants to... okay.
[03:10:11.670 --> 03:10:15.330]  Because, I mean, everybody on my roster
works the schedule.
[03:10:16.430 --> 03:10:21.370]  So if someone calls in and takes off or
whatever, then that's where I pull my
[03:10:21.370 --> 03:10:22.290]  carts and people in.
[03:10:22.650 --> 03:10:26.230]  And they don't make overtime unless they
work overtime, obviously.
[03:10:26.490 --> 03:10:29.030]  But I try to... I mean, I won't bring them
in until 4 o'clock.
[03:10:30.010 --> 03:10:32.390]  And they'll work 4 to 8 instead of 8 to 8.
[03:10:32.450 --> 03:10:34.490]  So I get them down to 16 instead of 24.
[03:10:35.250 --> 03:10:37.290]  I do try to pull back.
[03:10:37.910 --> 03:10:38.950]  And we know you do.
[03:10:38.990 --> 03:10:39.850]  We're just trying to figure out...
[03:10:39.850 --> 03:10:40.370]  I just...
[03:10:40.370 --> 03:10:42.930]  We're a million dollars over budget this
year.
[03:10:43.430 --> 03:10:44.670]  So we're trying to figure out...
[03:10:44.670 --> 03:10:46.650]  And we've got to figure out what to do,
because we don't have the money.
[03:10:46.770 --> 03:10:47.810]  We're going to be upside down.
[03:10:47.830 --> 03:10:50.510]  I guarantee you that everybody's going to
say, uh oh, gosh, what's going on with
[03:10:50.510 --> 03:10:50.510]  this?
[03:10:50.510 --> 03:10:51.250]  Yeah, they're going to hate us.
[03:10:51.310 --> 03:10:54.470]  It's going to be the next 40 years,
because the DLGS sat down.
[03:10:54.950 --> 03:10:58.290]  That Senate bill is going to go back until
2030.
[03:10:58.730 --> 03:11:02.170]  If I'd read a new one, I could almost come
back a million dollars back in.
[03:11:04.240 --> 03:11:05.480]  We need a million back in.
[03:11:05.760 --> 03:11:06.460]  Well, I'm trying.
[03:11:07.100 --> 03:11:09.360]  We are working on that, too.
[03:11:09.520 --> 03:11:11.380]  We are working on a new system that's...
[03:11:11.380 --> 03:11:15.020]  There's the... this is probably no way
that hiring one extra person
[03:11:28.020 --> 03:11:35.340]  So you guys are down here in this
building, so if you get a call,
[03:11:35.500 --> 03:11:40.420]  you're in the back side of Bucknerville,
you've got to go from there to there,
[03:11:40.480 --> 03:11:40.680]  right?
[03:11:40.840 --> 03:11:44.300]  Did you ever think about, this is a
question, he's an intern, he's coming down
[03:11:44.300 --> 03:11:44.820]  to fix that.
[03:11:44.820 --> 03:11:49.760]  Do you ever think about this thought,
putting somebody at the fire station,
[03:11:49.900 --> 03:11:52.160]  so they leave from that position?
[03:11:52.600 --> 03:11:53.500]  It's so unpredictable.
[03:11:54.260 --> 03:11:54.660]  Right.
[03:11:59.670 --> 03:12:04.330]  And that's where the two trucks have been
amazing, because now we have another crew.
[03:12:04.570 --> 03:12:07.990]  But we've been running three trucks a lot
here lately, because it's crazy.
[03:12:08.270 --> 03:12:09.010]  I mean, this is crazy.
[03:12:12.050 --> 03:12:17.050]  We just got to try to... we've got to
tighten it up.
[03:12:17.050 --> 03:12:22.610]  When I stay on top of my guys and I tell
them, when you're off, you clock out.
[03:12:22.710 --> 03:12:25.750]  I don't care if you want to stand around
and smoke a joke for two minutes,
[03:12:25.890 --> 03:12:27.410]  that's fine, but when you're off,
you clock.
[03:12:27.870 --> 03:12:28.790]  Get off the clock.
[03:12:29.510 --> 03:12:37.090]  I mean, obviously, if they run a heart
attack or something to CRH at 7.30,
[03:12:37.210 --> 03:12:40.050]  they're not going to get back till 9,
and then they have to clean their truck,
[03:12:40.070 --> 03:12:42.750]  and they have to do their reports,
and they ship stuff.
[03:12:42.750 --> 03:12:47.430]  And to think, the rescue squad used to be
ran with the hearse and four guys.
[03:12:47.710 --> 03:12:50.310]  It was all volunteer too, Jane.
[03:12:50.850 --> 03:12:52.610]  No, I mean, I hear that.
[03:12:52.810 --> 03:12:55.910]  Back when it was Funeral, it was four guys
and a hearse.
[03:12:55.930 --> 03:12:57.430]  When the rescue squad started,
it was volunteer.
[03:12:57.770 --> 03:12:57.950]  I know.
[03:12:58.490 --> 03:13:00.610]  Just how things escalated.
[03:13:00.630 --> 03:13:00.830]  It's crazy.
[03:13:01.530 --> 03:13:04.810]  You know what really gives me about this
overtime, looking at it?
[03:13:05.090 --> 03:13:08.190]  It seems like that overtime is just right
on budget.
[03:13:08.670 --> 03:13:13.610]  And the overtime too, I'm just going to be
honest, We could probably cut back if we
[03:13:13.610 --> 03:13:14.690]  could have our comp time back.
[03:13:15.110 --> 03:13:16.110]  But we can't.
[03:13:16.110 --> 03:13:16.970]  We can't do comp time.
[03:13:17.250 --> 03:13:18.150]  That kills us.
[03:13:19.370 --> 03:13:21.030]  They've told us legally we can't,
right?
[03:13:21.050 --> 03:13:21.950]  Yeah, we can't.
[03:13:22.130 --> 03:13:23.830]  But probably the labor says we can.
[03:13:24.030 --> 03:13:24.750]  Yeah, we can.
[03:13:24.890 --> 03:13:25.070]  Yes, we can.
[03:13:25.070 --> 03:13:25.710]  Yeah, you can.
[03:13:26.250 --> 03:13:26.870]  I've checked.
[03:13:26.990 --> 03:13:27.590]  She's right.
[03:13:28.290 --> 03:13:29.710]  She's right, but that's not our call.
[03:13:30.590 --> 03:13:31.730]  It's the Commissioner's call.
[03:13:31.730 --> 03:13:32.230]  It's the Commissioner's call.
[03:13:32.470 --> 03:13:33.850]  But anyway, back to what I'm saying.
[03:13:34.530 --> 03:13:37.830]  I just got to do a little bit more
digging.
[03:13:37.830 --> 03:13:46.490]  It seems like a right on budget with the
overtime that it doesn't... it just
[03:13:46.490 --> 03:13:48.670]  doesn't seem like a right on budget.
[03:13:48.750 --> 03:13:51.290]  I talked to Nate Bryant, which is the
director of...
[03:13:53.750 --> 03:13:55.850]  things with him a lot, with everything.
[03:13:56.250 --> 03:13:59.930]  And I mean, his overtime budget is
something like $50,000.
[03:14:00.230 --> 03:14:00.970]  Yeah, we got it.
[03:14:01.130 --> 03:14:03.530]  Did you ever... have you talked to anyone
in Bartholomew County?
[03:14:03.790 --> 03:14:05.790]  I know there's probably more than that.
[03:14:05.930 --> 03:14:09.710]  Oh, there's a lot of millions,
but... but yeah.
[03:14:16.130 --> 03:14:19.370]  How does comp time save over overtime?
[03:14:19.570 --> 03:14:23.370]  Because if you're not busy you send them
home, but then you have to call somebody
[03:14:23.370 --> 03:14:24.350]  else back in to cover.
[03:14:24.670 --> 03:14:28.030]  I have a third run and I call someone in
and they'll come in and do it for comp
[03:14:28.030 --> 03:14:28.250]  time.
[03:14:29.510 --> 03:14:30.130]  Versus overtime.
[03:14:30.610 --> 03:14:33.250]  Yeah, but there's still going to be,
in my mind, there's still going to be a
[03:14:33.250 --> 03:14:36.950]  shortfall somewhere where you have to call
somebody back in to make it up.
[03:14:42.490 --> 03:14:44.570]  You see the comp time, the guy has eight
hours.
[03:14:44.670 --> 03:14:46.770]  He says, I'm going to take off Tuesday my
comp time.
[03:14:46.910 --> 03:14:47.690]  So you're like, okay.
[03:14:47.870 --> 03:14:50.750]  Then you get two calls and you have to
call an overtime person to cover it.
[03:14:51.810 --> 03:14:55.370]  It's just a vicious circle.
[03:15:03.050 --> 03:15:03.830]  That's what happened.
[03:15:05.950 --> 03:15:06.650]  That's what happened.
[03:15:08.290 --> 03:15:09.710]  It's just a dirt road.
[03:15:09.850 --> 03:15:10.470]  It is.
[03:15:10.550 --> 03:15:11.010]  It is.
[03:15:12.450 --> 03:15:12.930]  Why?
[03:15:14.390 --> 03:15:15.650]  Well, John Jane retired.
[03:15:16.490 --> 03:15:18.590]  I did fill this spot with Christy Gilbert.
[03:15:18.850 --> 03:15:19.990]  She's my new chief medic.
[03:15:21.550 --> 03:15:23.750]  And then I just hired a medic.
[03:15:25.990 --> 03:15:29.030]  Did the other ones leave because of bad
pay or just... no?
[03:15:34.610 --> 03:15:35.450]  It's not, okay.
[03:15:36.970 --> 03:15:37.830]  Okay, okay.
[03:15:37.950 --> 03:15:40.410]  So it wasn't like unhappy with the pay or
the work schedule.
[03:15:40.530 --> 03:15:41.050]  Okay, okay.
[03:15:41.670 --> 03:15:42.210]  That's good.
[03:15:45.030 --> 03:15:46.070]  It's not for everybody.
[03:15:46.170 --> 03:15:47.190]  It wouldn't be for me.
[03:15:47.350 --> 03:15:50.010]  It wouldn't be for me.
[03:15:50.250 --> 03:15:51.570]  Well, I'm sure glad you're there.
[03:15:51.570 --> 03:15:52.990]  Oh, I am too.
[03:15:53.190 --> 03:15:58.650]  And I would ever hate to see that we would
ever live in a community, because I have
[03:15:58.650 --> 03:16:01.590]  lived in a community when it was volunteer
and we had no hospital.
[03:16:04.110 --> 03:16:07.270]  When the person retired, did you replace
him with the same salary?
[03:16:07.450 --> 03:16:08.930]  Listen, I've used that hospital several
times.
[03:16:09.390 --> 03:16:10.090]  Christy got it.
[03:16:10.110 --> 03:16:10.310]  Yeah.
[03:16:10.570 --> 03:16:11.450]  I mean, she got it.
[03:16:12.090 --> 03:16:12.490]  Yes.
[03:16:13.650 --> 03:16:16.030]  I know, but the same salary as the briefs
person.
[03:16:16.070 --> 03:16:16.910]  Yes, I get it.
[03:16:31.330 --> 03:16:32.990]  How is your board working?
[03:16:33.110 --> 03:16:36.370]  Because you've reactivated that,
which I think needs to be.
[03:16:36.510 --> 03:16:36.790]  Yes.
[03:16:37.110 --> 03:16:37.970]  It's been good.
[03:16:38.190 --> 03:16:39.330]  I love Sherry.
[03:16:39.530 --> 03:16:40.210]  Sherry Lone.
[03:16:41.350 --> 03:16:42.250]  You know Sherry?
[03:16:42.370 --> 03:16:43.830]  She's been on there for a long time.
[03:17:03.420 --> 03:17:04.420]  Thank you Tracy.
[03:17:04.680 --> 03:17:05.600]  Anything else?
[03:17:05.620 --> 03:17:07.460]  Any other questions on it?
[03:17:07.500 --> 03:17:08.340]  Have you done anything else Tracy?
[03:17:08.860 --> 03:17:09.420]  I don't.
[03:17:09.580 --> 03:17:11.100]  Okay that was easy wasn't it?
[03:17:11.180 --> 03:17:11.320]  Yeah.
[03:17:11.760 --> 03:17:16.980]  So you know just to reiterate we're going
to re-label that special events and then
[03:17:16.980 --> 03:17:18.060]  we're going to look at your salary.
[03:17:18.420 --> 03:17:20.060]  I'm not saying what they're I don't know
what they're going to do or what they're
[03:17:20.060 --> 03:17:21.900]  not going to do, but I've made a notation.
[03:17:23.500 --> 03:17:28.580]  And just another thing, I'm looking into a
new reporting system.
[03:17:30.440 --> 03:17:32.240]  I talked to the commissioners about it.
[03:17:32.280 --> 03:17:34.460]  They've given me information to look into
it.
[03:17:35.460 --> 03:17:41.380]  And it's, I think, I can't promise,
but I think it might help.
[03:17:41.580 --> 03:17:44.180]  I do have a question.
[03:17:44.180 --> 03:17:52.380]  It automatically links into the building
that Missy does, the system we already
[03:17:52.380 --> 03:17:55.940]  have in place, so we get this,
then everything that the guys do,
[03:17:56.100 --> 03:18:01.260]  we can get rid of the paper, and we'll
automatically dump to her, and then she
[03:18:01.260 --> 03:18:04.340]  can just go, and we'll be able to broaden
our building.
[03:18:05.680 --> 03:18:06.700]  I got a question.
[03:18:07.140 --> 03:18:09.480]  Now, I do have a couple questions I was
thinking about.
[03:18:09.480 --> 03:18:11.960]  So, EMS garage and motors.
[03:18:12.540 --> 03:18:15.660]  You're at 48,000, but you got a bunch of
new vehicles up.
[03:18:15.740 --> 03:18:17.040]  That concerns me.
[03:18:18.040 --> 03:18:19.420]  Why would it be so high?
[03:18:20.420 --> 03:18:21.500]  Which one do you want to look at?
[03:18:21.560 --> 03:18:23.040]  It's on page 24.
[03:18:24.000 --> 03:18:26.280]  What did Jim keep looking in at?
[03:18:27.680 --> 03:18:28.120]  1170.
[03:18:32.360 --> 03:18:34.960]  So, I just take care of the trucks.
[03:18:35.180 --> 03:18:37.240]  I take care of any kind of maintenance
around the building.
[03:18:37.660 --> 03:18:38.640]  Oh, hold on there.
[03:18:38.640 --> 03:18:40.060]  Hold on, hold on, back up.
[03:18:40.220 --> 03:18:44.180]  You said stuff around the building?
[03:18:45.680 --> 03:18:47.580]  Um, like stuff in our building?
[03:18:47.880 --> 03:18:49.940]  Yeah, that can't be in garage motors.
[03:18:51.380 --> 03:18:52.440]  Well, I guess it could be.
[03:18:53.180 --> 03:18:53.620]  Garage.
[03:18:54.020 --> 03:18:54.760]  Yes, garage.
[03:18:55.340 --> 03:18:57.860]  So what's that, I don't know, what's that?
[03:18:58.060 --> 03:19:02.240]  That's if Fox has to come and fix
something, then he invoices me for it.
[03:19:02.640 --> 03:19:04.240]  Invoice, he invoices you?
[03:19:04.300 --> 03:19:07.180]  Well, he gets the invoice from wherever he
can get parts or whatever from.
[03:19:07.180 --> 03:19:08.760]  He brings it to me and I pay it.
[03:19:08.940 --> 03:19:10.240]  But you don't pay his salary.
[03:19:11.000 --> 03:19:12.560]  But you don't pay his salary.
[03:19:13.020 --> 03:19:14.040]  No, not possible.
[03:19:15.060 --> 03:19:19.060]  Here's the thing, at $48,000 for garage
and bonus, that concerns me.
[03:19:19.140 --> 03:19:20.120]  I don't know...
[03:19:20.120 --> 03:19:22.400]  But you spent less than $10,000 halfway
through.
[03:19:22.760 --> 03:19:25.740]  I don't... so that's something we'll talk
about.
[03:19:25.740 --> 03:19:26.880]  Okay, I didn't spend much last year.
[03:19:27.140 --> 03:19:28.980]  Yeah, so maybe we could cut that.
[03:19:29.240 --> 03:19:35.660]  Well, but that, first thing, when you talk
about the buildings, the buildings are
[03:19:35.660 --> 03:19:36.280]  owned by the commissioners.
[03:19:36.960 --> 03:19:39.400]  So I don't know why you're paying that.
[03:19:42.220 --> 03:19:48.660]  I'm saying like, things that belong to me,
or to not me, but to EMS.
[03:19:48.960 --> 03:19:51.540]  Like, that we rent.
[03:19:51.700 --> 03:19:54.520]  Like oxygen, we have our own cascade
system.
[03:19:54.780 --> 03:19:56.020]  But that wouldn't come out of the bank.
[03:19:56.140 --> 03:19:58.920]  That wouldn't have anything to do with
garage and motorists.
[03:19:59.220 --> 03:20:01.660]  So let's go back to Fox.
[03:20:01.940 --> 03:20:03.980]  Because he's got so much comp time.
[03:20:06.560 --> 03:20:06.960]  Right.
[03:20:07.860 --> 03:20:09.420]  That should come out of the commissioners.
[03:20:09.520 --> 03:20:11.140]  Because they own that building.
[03:20:11.700 --> 03:20:14.780]  But that's not necessarily true either,
Dave, because the sheriff's department,
[03:20:15.060 --> 03:20:16.820]  their maintenance doesn't come out of
commissioners.
[03:20:16.920 --> 03:20:20.640]  Yes, but it comes out of the... we give
them a budget line out from the
[03:20:20.640 --> 03:20:21.380]  commissioners.
[03:20:21.440 --> 03:20:22.960]  Well, we're giving her a budget line.
[03:20:22.960 --> 03:20:23.640]  That's the same thing here.
[03:20:23.800 --> 03:20:26.220]  But that's not her line.
[03:20:26.580 --> 03:20:27.240]  That's what I'm saying.
[03:20:28.580 --> 03:20:29.540]  We'll look into that.
[03:20:29.540 --> 03:20:34.400]  I tried to cut everything as much as I
can.
[03:20:35.120 --> 03:20:40.500]  We did have an ambulance that was wrecked
a month ago and it's in the shop now
[03:20:40.500 --> 03:20:41.020]  getting repaired.
[03:20:41.900 --> 03:20:42.920]  What did your name was?
[03:20:42.940 --> 03:20:43.520]  It wasn't our fault.
[03:20:49.550 --> 03:20:50.690]  She didn't even look.
[03:20:50.870 --> 03:20:54.410]  She looked this way and he saw her.
[03:20:54.910 --> 03:20:55.850]  She didn't stop.
[03:20:55.950 --> 03:20:56.370]  It was angry.
[03:20:57.030 --> 03:20:58.330]  Was it one of the new ambulances?
[03:20:58.510 --> 03:20:59.710]  No, it was a black one.
[03:21:00.490 --> 03:21:04.370]  So the Amish driver, did he get divorced
with Buggy?
[03:21:04.430 --> 03:21:05.030]  Which one did he get?
[03:21:05.050 --> 03:21:06.310]  It was a van.
[03:21:07.630 --> 03:21:09.130]  So somebody that was following Amish?
[03:21:09.290 --> 03:21:09.570]  Yeah.
[03:21:11.190 --> 03:21:11.990]  I mean...
[03:21:14.860 --> 03:21:21.380]  Progressive was her insurance and they've
already sent the check I've got so I have
[03:21:21.380 --> 03:21:23.240]  to pay Pearsons when they get done with
it.
[03:21:23.880 --> 03:21:25.000]  So we're paying for that.
[03:21:25.500 --> 03:21:25.900]  Yes.
[03:21:25.980 --> 03:21:28.520]  But I had to put it somewhere to be able
to pull it out somewhere.
[03:21:33.560 --> 03:21:38.500]  So the garage and motor, it kind of saved
us last year too, where we didn't have to
[03:21:38.500 --> 03:21:43.840]  appropriate any funds from anywhere else
because our salaries were always going to
[03:21:43.840 --> 03:21:44.160]  be short.
[03:21:46.160 --> 03:21:47.920]  Not major, but a little bit.
[03:21:48.400 --> 03:21:51.040]  So you're saying you pulled it out of that
EMS garage fund?
[03:21:51.440 --> 03:21:51.660]  Yeah.
[03:21:52.460 --> 03:21:53.740]  We've got to look at that.
[03:21:54.560 --> 03:21:56.160]  That's being used as a...
[03:21:56.160 --> 03:21:57.700]  That's what I'm saying, your salaries.
[03:21:57.780 --> 03:21:59.420]  You're not paying salaries out of your
garage motor.
[03:22:00.180 --> 03:22:02.260]  You said my salaries were short.
[03:22:02.420 --> 03:22:04.600]  I see what you're saying.
[03:22:08.940 --> 03:22:09.820]  That's what I'm saying.
[03:22:09.960 --> 03:22:11.400]  Oh, you did take it out of there for
salaries.
[03:22:11.740 --> 03:22:12.520]  And you can't.
[03:22:13.100 --> 03:22:14.600]  Anyway, I'll look into that.
[03:22:14.980 --> 03:22:16.160]  We've got to dig into that.
[03:22:16.320 --> 03:22:18.680]  I'd be happy to sit down with you and show
you.
[03:22:20.020 --> 03:22:24.000]  But what we have to do, it needs to be put
in the right place.
[03:22:24.220 --> 03:22:24.720]  I got you.
[03:22:24.720 --> 03:22:28.760]  If you're going to use it for this,
then it needs to be put in that line.
[03:22:29.340 --> 03:22:34.780]  And just to use it for a slush fund,
with lack of a better way to say it,
[03:22:34.940 --> 03:22:36.060]  we can't do that.
[03:22:36.380 --> 03:22:39.060]  And I see some other ones here,
but we'll talk about it.
[03:22:39.100 --> 03:22:40.120]  I'll talk with you about it.
[03:22:40.880 --> 03:22:41.280]  Okay.
[03:22:41.900 --> 03:22:42.300]  Okay.
[03:22:42.780 --> 03:22:43.580]  Thank you, Tracy.
[03:22:43.840 --> 03:22:44.440]  Thank you.
[03:22:44.900 --> 03:22:45.920]  We're going to take a break.
[03:22:46.200 --> 03:22:46.680]  Have a great day.
[03:22:46.800 --> 03:22:47.700]  You too, Tracy.
[03:22:47.760 --> 03:22:48.380]  Thank you.
[03:22:48.560 --> 03:22:48.920]  Thank you.
[03:22:49.280 --> 03:22:50.360]  Why'd you get in this for lunch?
[03:22:50.500 --> 03:22:53.600]  I didn't get anything because you told me
not to.
[03:22:53.800 --> 03:22:54.460]  No, I didn't.
[03:22:54.460 --> 03:22:55.740]  Mike said he'd go get us something.
[03:22:55.780 --> 03:22:56.240]  I'm hungry.
[03:22:56.920 --> 03:22:57.980]  We're on break now.
[03:22:58.660 --> 03:23:00.600]  We've got 20 minutes, 30 minutes left.
[03:23:00.880 --> 03:23:04.640]  No, and I said, so what you're saying is
you're paying salaries out there.
[03:23:04.640 --> 03:23:04.880]  She is.
[03:23:05.040 --> 03:23:06.220]  Yes, and you can't do that.
[03:23:06.260 --> 03:23:06.320]  She said no.
[03:23:06.500 --> 03:23:07.400]  Yes, she is.
[03:23:07.560 --> 03:23:10.300]  And she went through a few other things
there.
[03:23:10.380 --> 03:23:11.360]  Through some of these.
[03:23:11.540 --> 03:23:12.220]  That's wrong.
[03:23:12.480 --> 03:23:12.960]  I know.
[03:23:13.080 --> 03:23:13.920]  How she's spending it.
[03:23:14.100 --> 03:23:15.600]  I hated to even have...
[03:23:16.340 --> 03:23:17.580]  Can you shut this off?
[03:23:18.540 --> 03:23:19.820]  Can you shut this off?
[03:23:21.000 --> 03:23:21.760]  Because that's all.
[03:23:22.080 --> 03:23:22.900]  Well, I'm breaking.
[03:23:22.900 --> 03:23:27.320]  I don't know how Tina's budgeted herself
time to get lost but didn't budget any of
[03:23:27.320 --> 03:23:27.720]  the rest of us.
[03:23:27.740 --> 03:23:28.180]  I saw that.
[03:23:29.540 --> 03:23:31.660]  That's when you're the president and you
can do that.
[03:23:31.880 --> 03:23:32.880]  Come here, come here, come here.
[03:23:33.400 --> 03:23:36.080]  This here, I'm not sold on that.
[03:23:36.740 --> 03:23:37.320]  Which one?
[03:23:37.700 --> 03:23:38.460]  This one here.
[03:23:38.620 --> 03:23:39.240]  Yeah, yeah.
[03:23:39.720 --> 03:23:40.700]  I'm not that old.
[03:23:40.940 --> 03:23:41.740]  Right, right.
[03:23:43.840 --> 03:23:44.900]  I don't know how.
[03:23:45.460 --> 03:23:46.140]  Are you?
[03:23:46.420 --> 03:23:47.040]  Did you bring us anything?
[03:23:47.120 --> 03:23:48.200]  I'm not until 2 o'clock.
[03:23:48.420 --> 03:23:49.440]  I was going to say we're on break.
[03:23:49.840 --> 03:23:51.120]  Did you bring us anything to eat?
[03:23:53.660 --> 03:23:55.160]  Well, make it easy.
[03:23:55.680 --> 03:24:00.140]  Make it easy on yourself.
[03:24:00.320 --> 03:24:01.820]  There's a Mexican restaurant right here.
[03:24:01.840 --> 03:24:03.220]  Go get some chips and salsa.
[03:24:03.700 --> 03:24:04.780]  Me too.
[03:24:06.520 --> 03:24:10.340]  I got a pizza delivery started.
[03:24:10.760 --> 03:24:11.280]  Oh, you do?
[03:24:11.480 --> 03:24:11.740]  Yeah.
[03:24:12.040 --> 03:24:12.880]  Papa John's.
[03:24:13.000 --> 03:24:13.440]  Give me some.
[03:24:13.900 --> 03:24:14.500]  I'll pay.
[03:24:15.360 --> 03:24:16.580]  Good enough for all of us.
[03:24:16.580 --> 03:24:17.160]  We'll dive in.
[03:24:19.340 --> 03:24:23.240]  The meats is what I had in the thing,
but I'm good with whatever.
[03:24:23.540 --> 03:24:24.560]  I don't care.
[03:24:24.860 --> 03:24:25.540]  It's fine.
[03:24:26.220 --> 03:24:27.960]  It's an extra large, I mean...
[03:24:27.960 --> 03:24:30.440]  Hey, Durant, this is serious business.
[03:24:31.600 --> 03:24:36.400]  You see, Jerry will be back in 1,
2, 3, 4, 5...
[03:24:37.640 --> 03:24:39.080]  That's at least six of us.
[03:24:39.520 --> 03:24:43.600]  I can get a meats and a pepperoni or
something on that.
[03:24:43.600 --> 03:24:44.940]  Yeah, we'll all jump in.
[03:24:45.580 --> 03:24:46.580]  Dave said he's buying.
[03:24:46.720 --> 03:24:47.420]  Money's no option.
[03:24:54.980 --> 03:24:57.020]  Are you guys on YouTube today?
[03:24:57.420 --> 03:24:58.020]  We are.
[03:24:58.320 --> 03:24:59.420]  I'm blaming all this on Matt.
[03:24:59.740 --> 03:25:01.280]  I was wondering if they got pictures.
[03:25:02.120 --> 03:25:03.440]  Do they have pictures, do they?
[03:25:03.620 --> 03:25:05.380]  If they haven't got pictures, you guys
usually eat.
[03:25:05.780 --> 03:25:06.580]  What did you get?
[03:25:35.520 --> 03:25:40.500]  But at some point we have to.
[03:25:41.200 --> 03:25:41.980]  Does that make sense?
[03:25:41.980 --> 03:25:42.200]  Does that make any sense?
[03:25:42.500 --> 03:25:45.280]  Some of it, because that's just not good.
[03:25:47.900 --> 03:25:49.260]  Just tell me what you think.
[03:25:50.080 --> 03:25:50.880]  I'm sorry.
[03:25:51.580 --> 03:25:52.060]  Anyway...
[03:25:54.400 --> 03:25:55.660]  Did Jerry take a break?
[03:25:55.680 --> 03:25:56.080]  Did he leave?
[03:26:06.390 --> 03:26:07.430]  No, I don't think so.
[03:26:33.710 --> 03:26:36.610]  I've ordered two pizzas, if that works.
[03:26:47.230 --> 03:26:51.630]  So you realize, hey, hey Gene,
you realize that speech is going to get
[03:26:51.630 --> 03:26:53.230]  long about that 27 acres.
[03:26:55.150 --> 03:26:57.210]  This is 200 East Brown Street,
right?
[03:26:57.530 --> 03:26:58.190]  Yes, sir.
[03:27:24.570 --> 03:27:26.770]  Oh man, that's got my old card in there.
[03:27:27.190 --> 03:27:28.910]  How much is it?
[03:27:29.710 --> 03:27:30.910]  Yeah, I don't worry about Dave.
[03:27:38.610 --> 03:27:40.210]  I went to 4th Street the other day.
[03:27:40.210 --> 03:27:41.950]  I took the guys over to 4th Street in
Columbus.
[03:27:42.390 --> 03:27:43.830]  Oh, I missed 4th Street.
[03:27:45.250 --> 03:27:46.150]  They redid it.
[03:27:46.170 --> 03:27:46.910]  That's a lot of points.
[03:27:47.950 --> 03:27:49.750]  They got the best chili in the world.
[03:28:06.400 --> 03:28:08.600]  This is running in an ad, but I could tell
you last time.
[03:28:10.020 --> 03:28:11.120]  Did you order a couple?
[03:28:15.230 --> 03:28:17.350]  Usually if we do stuff like that,
my wife does it.
[03:28:17.750 --> 03:28:21.110]  That's why Pam, she just called and said
she didn't want us to do it.
[03:28:30.050 --> 03:28:31.810]  Well, somebody just called and said it was
all corrupt.
[03:28:32.650 --> 03:28:33.630]  No, they didn't.
[03:28:33.830 --> 03:28:34.510]  Yeah, they did.
[03:28:34.510 --> 03:28:34.650]  They did?
[03:28:34.690 --> 03:28:36.130]  They did, Granny Puntbuster.
[03:28:36.410 --> 03:28:36.530]  Who are?
[03:28:37.250 --> 03:28:37.690]  Okay.
[03:28:38.650 --> 03:28:39.810]  Why would they say that?
[03:28:40.590 --> 03:28:41.030]  Because.
[03:28:41.570 --> 03:28:42.010]  Correct.
[03:28:42.330 --> 03:28:43.650]  They heard that guys were here.
[03:28:44.910 --> 03:28:46.170]  Yeah, they said we're all correct.
[03:28:46.290 --> 03:28:47.450]  Are we still, are they still recording?
[03:28:48.550 --> 03:28:48.990]  Yeah.
[03:28:48.990 --> 03:28:49.790]  Be careful.
[03:28:51.150 --> 03:28:51.970]  It's too late.
[03:28:53.530 --> 03:28:54.390]  No one listened.
[03:28:56.170 --> 03:28:57.650]  I don't have to say it at all,
do you?
[03:28:59.370 --> 03:29:00.450]  I'm blugging again.
[03:29:00.450 --> 03:29:00.550]  There he is.
[03:29:05.980 --> 03:29:06.980]  Matt's getting tired.
[03:29:07.820 --> 03:29:08.700]  I'm hungry.
[03:29:09.160 --> 03:29:09.720]  See ya.
[03:29:11.200 --> 03:29:14.960]  There really is a Mexican restaurant,
like, walking distance.
[03:29:15.200 --> 03:29:16.220]  He ain't eating Mexican food.
[03:29:16.340 --> 03:29:17.840]  You think he's going to eat Mexican food?
[03:29:18.220 --> 03:29:18.940]  You're kidding me.
[03:29:18.960 --> 03:29:20.420]  I got to bring a six-year-old.
[03:29:20.840 --> 03:29:21.720]  Oh, he got there.
[03:29:21.940 --> 03:29:23.240]  He'll buy you whatever's left over.
[03:29:23.540 --> 03:29:23.920]  Yep.
[03:29:30.720 --> 03:29:32.420]  I think I finally got it over with.
[03:29:33.040 --> 03:29:33.620]  Did you?
[03:29:33.800 --> 03:29:34.020]  Yeah.
[03:29:35.320 --> 03:29:37.660]  If you need any help, Mike...
[03:29:39.020 --> 03:29:41.160]  I should have grabbed you before I
started.
[03:29:41.780 --> 03:29:43.540]  They know how to do all that stuff.
[03:29:43.920 --> 03:29:45.120]  Yeah, I should have done that.
[03:31:57.920 --> 03:31:58.580]  How's Angie?
[03:31:59.480 --> 03:32:01.080]  She's doing very well, thank you.
[03:32:01.420 --> 03:32:01.860]  Fantastic.
[03:32:02.640 --> 03:32:04.860]  How many dogs is she up to or down to now?
[03:32:05.140 --> 03:32:05.580]  Dogs?
[03:32:05.740 --> 03:32:07.060]  We have three.
[03:32:07.440 --> 03:32:07.960]  That's it.
[03:32:08.820 --> 03:32:10.480]  That's a lower number.
[03:32:10.860 --> 03:32:12.040]  Yeah, we have two outside.
[03:32:12.040 --> 03:32:17.780]  Outside, great Pyrenees, great big dogs,
and one little weenie dog, and so we had
[03:32:17.780 --> 03:32:21.120]  two other weenies and they both passed in
the last year.
[03:32:21.200 --> 03:32:22.820]  One of them was 12, one was 13.
[03:32:23.540 --> 03:32:23.900]  They do.
[03:32:26.120 --> 03:32:27.400]  They're good little dogs.
[03:32:27.520 --> 03:32:30.100]  They're a lot of fun.
[03:40:09.220 --> 03:40:11.180]  I think here's what you would always want
to say.
[03:40:11.220 --> 03:40:12.380]  Have you had an evening at a meeting?
[03:40:12.940 --> 03:40:13.420]  No.
[03:40:32.640 --> 03:40:34.240]  Because you already are.
[03:40:35.320 --> 03:40:35.800]  I
[03:40:42.930 --> 03:40:44.010]  take it seriously.
[03:40:44.210 --> 03:40:44.810]  That's what I'm doing.
[03:40:44.810 --> 03:40:45.670]  It's an argument.
[03:40:46.070 --> 03:40:48.150]  You know, I know a little bit about
myself.
[03:40:49.890 --> 03:40:56.230]  I'm still selling cards and giving things
right away from Tracy.
[03:40:56.870 --> 03:40:59.970]  You know, it's just, I'm right in front of
her all the time.
[03:41:14.060 --> 03:41:15.000]  It is.
[03:41:15.280 --> 03:41:17.720]  When you take your job seriously,
I know what those do.
[03:42:30.040 --> 03:42:31.760]  Are you guys on your break?
[03:42:36.180 --> 03:42:38.080]  I don't know how to turn that thing off.
[03:42:38.200 --> 03:42:38.740]  It's still on.
[03:42:40.740 --> 03:42:41.240]  That's okay.
[03:42:46.840 --> 03:42:47.720]  Thank you.
[03:43:03.240 --> 03:43:05.180]  And you just did a good job.
[03:43:05.280 --> 03:43:07.320]  You really did everything for me.
[03:43:07.480 --> 03:43:08.080]  It's worth it.
[03:43:13.350 --> 03:43:15.430]  It's worth and a pleasure.
[03:43:15.550 --> 03:43:17.010]  You don't have to say anything.
[03:43:17.010 --> 03:43:19.110]  You and your information are not my
pleasure.
[03:43:19.210 --> 03:43:20.970]  This is a business thing.
[03:43:27.550 --> 03:43:28.770]  It's a business thing.
[03:43:50.330 --> 03:43:52.950]  I'm going to take a break, but I will just
[03:44:17.170 --> 03:44:18.190]  let Christ do the work.
[03:44:31.210 --> 03:44:33.710]  It's just me and myself in the
prosecutor's office.
[03:44:34.130 --> 03:44:36.030]  And so it's an entire floor.
[03:44:36.390 --> 03:44:38.590]  There is a community building.
[03:44:39.450 --> 03:44:41.090]  And it's between the two of us.
[03:44:41.090 --> 03:44:43.910]  And we have state requirements that
they'll let us spend it.
[03:44:44.290 --> 03:44:45.490]  And it's a state.
[03:44:45.990 --> 03:44:50.690]  And it has to go directly to the children
in that program.
[03:44:51.050 --> 03:44:51.950]  And effectively.
[03:44:52.150 --> 03:44:54.250]  So we need to be a little thin and a
little flat.
[03:44:54.630 --> 03:44:56.190]  And we spend that a little bit.
[03:44:56.250 --> 03:44:57.750]  Okay, I'm in here with you.
[03:44:57.990 --> 03:44:59.590]  I'm trying to figure out how to do this.
[03:45:00.690 --> 03:45:05.970]  I've said in meetings, and I've asked and
I've said, what can we do?
[03:47:28.610 --> 03:47:30.310]  You know, we started with that.
[03:48:12.270 --> 03:48:14.430]  Today I wouldn't want your job for
nothing.
[03:48:14.770 --> 03:48:16.670]  No, do we do any good or do you know?
[03:48:21.310 --> 03:48:23.310]  There hasn't been much change since.
[03:48:30.810 --> 03:48:33.230]  So you don't sell your boat, that little
gentleman?
[03:48:37.750 --> 03:48:39.890]  Are you selling a boat today?
[03:48:40.830 --> 03:48:42.610]  I'm not selling a boat.
[03:48:42.890 --> 03:48:43.690]  Yeah, right.
[03:48:45.990 --> 03:48:47.510]  They need it up there.
[03:48:48.690 --> 03:48:50.310]  No, I'm not selling a boat.
[03:48:51.030 --> 03:48:52.770]  Did the others go fairly?
[03:48:53.550 --> 03:48:56.930]  I was on the call, but I couldn't leave
for a minute.
[03:49:01.930 --> 03:49:04.110]  Pretty much all the time.
[03:49:05.830 --> 03:49:06.310]  Okay.
[03:49:08.710 --> 03:49:11.250]  Nothing that I need to check on with
those?
[03:49:11.690 --> 03:49:14.870]  No, I just told them I haven't been able
to use it much this year.
[03:49:14.990 --> 03:49:16.410]  No, the only one was what?
[03:49:16.410 --> 03:49:18.190]  Only one is what?
[03:49:18.430 --> 03:49:22.330]  That's when it's issues, weather issues,
or just other stuff going on.
[03:49:22.550 --> 03:49:24.070]  The garage and the motor's line.
[03:49:24.450 --> 03:49:26.710]  If there's something going on,
they can do it on their own.
[03:49:27.130 --> 03:49:27.610]  Okay.
[03:49:27.730 --> 03:49:30.390]  We just want to know what's being
expected.
[03:49:30.630 --> 03:49:31.110]  Okay.
[03:49:31.850 --> 03:49:33.210]  But I think that really...
[03:49:33.210 --> 03:49:36.570]  I figured out what she's paying out of
that.
[03:49:37.390 --> 03:49:38.570]  What she's paying?
[03:49:38.710 --> 03:49:40.110]  What she's paying out of that.
[03:49:40.290 --> 03:49:40.690]  Okay.
[03:49:41.570 --> 03:49:42.050]  Yes.
[03:49:43.590 --> 03:49:44.510]  Move it down here.
[03:49:48.970 --> 03:49:52.350]  I have a little Airstream.
[03:49:52.490 --> 03:49:55.370]  I sold a lot of stuff here in just the
last few weeks.
[03:49:55.750 --> 03:49:58.330]  And the Airstream is on the job.
[03:50:00.670 --> 03:50:01.970]  Don't you take down the room?
[03:50:02.370 --> 03:50:03.510]  I see pictures.
[03:50:04.630 --> 03:50:08.410]  We used to have a big RV and a Tiffin.
[03:50:09.550 --> 03:50:10.610]  42 foot.
[03:50:15.670 --> 03:50:20.810]  We had sold it, well it was called
Airstream, and Airstream's not cheap by
[03:50:20.810 --> 03:50:21.310]  any means.
[03:50:21.370 --> 03:50:22.310]  It was a nice one.
[03:50:23.070 --> 03:50:26.710]  But Mike, it's not you who's supposed to
point that out.
[03:50:27.350 --> 03:50:33.670]  So I took a garage and I got a setup for
it and it's all hooked up and everything.
[03:50:34.150 --> 03:50:37.650]  And I told the kids, you know,
we need to make that decision.
[03:52:01.920 --> 03:52:03.880]  How many cars do you have left?
[03:52:30.320 --> 03:52:31.700]  I hope you got that over with.
[03:52:32.780 --> 03:52:35.140]  I got a text message in there that I know
I did.
[03:52:35.640 --> 03:52:36.460]  I'll get it up.
[03:52:49.090 --> 03:52:51.430]  I'll just stick it right here so they're
gone.
[03:53:06.330 --> 03:53:07.130]  This is...
[03:53:11.180 --> 03:53:12.640]  ...trying to get food real quick.
[03:53:43.360 --> 03:53:43.900]  Nothing.
[03:53:48.460 --> 03:53:48.760]  Nothing.
[03:53:48.980 --> 03:53:49.380]  See you.
[03:53:49.460 --> 03:53:49.940]  You're done.
[03:53:52.740 --> 03:53:54.540]  Do we have any questions?
[03:53:54.540 --> 03:53:54.620]  Are there any questions?
[03:53:55.900 --> 03:53:57.240]  I don't think we had any questions.
[03:54:00.500 --> 03:54:02.240]  Is there anybody else here?
[03:54:02.420 --> 03:54:02.960]  There are.
[03:54:03.020 --> 03:54:04.700]  They're all here, but we're just over it.
[03:54:04.720 --> 03:54:05.260]  You know what I mean?
[03:54:06.220 --> 03:54:07.520]  So, 11.30?
[03:54:11.480 --> 03:54:13.360]  There it is, 11.45.
[03:54:14.460 --> 03:54:19.500]  Dave, have there been any surveyors in
town other than where Abner works?
[03:54:21.620 --> 03:54:22.040]  No.
[03:54:22.040 --> 03:54:22.520]  That's it.
[03:54:22.600 --> 03:54:24.040]  There were, but he... No.
[03:54:24.260 --> 03:54:25.120]  The answer is no.
[03:54:27.320 --> 03:54:28.540]  Is there a problem with that?
[03:54:29.660 --> 03:54:31.800]  Tell me what it is so I can give him a
hard time.
[03:54:34.340 --> 03:54:34.920]  Who's next?
[03:54:38.780 --> 03:54:43.760]  Oh, this really?
[03:54:44.020 --> 03:54:44.440]  Oh, Clark.
[03:54:45.180 --> 03:54:46.060]  Hang on a second.
[03:54:46.240 --> 03:54:47.940]  Clark, Clark, Clark, Clark, Clark.
[03:54:54.600 --> 03:54:57.560]  So you see what I'm talking about here?
[03:54:57.660 --> 03:54:57.920]  Look.
[03:54:59.060 --> 03:54:59.900]  Oh, never mind.
[03:55:01.660 --> 03:55:02.840]  Miscellaneous personal services.
[03:55:03.080 --> 03:55:04.560]  I don't have, I've never used that.
[03:55:04.700 --> 03:55:05.400]  I've never used that.
[03:55:05.540 --> 03:55:06.860]  Take it out of there.
[03:55:06.960 --> 03:55:07.740]  It wasn't in there.
[03:55:08.240 --> 03:55:11.460]  What confused me with this, and here's
another one for $12,500.
[03:55:12.060 --> 03:55:12.900]  It's not me.
[03:55:13.040 --> 03:55:13.940]  It's not my numbers.
[03:55:14.640 --> 03:55:15.760]  I've never used that.
[03:55:16.020 --> 03:55:17.100]  Oh, that's just...
[03:55:17.100 --> 03:55:19.420]  It says that, but that doesn't come up on
it.
[03:55:19.440 --> 03:55:20.420]  I ignore it by any chance.
[03:55:21.160 --> 03:55:22.420]  So take that out.
[03:55:23.200 --> 03:55:24.240]  That's the only question I have.
[03:55:24.580 --> 03:55:26.800]  I don't know why we have 145.
[03:55:26.820 --> 03:55:28.080]  I thought we had 12, my bad.
[03:55:28.780 --> 03:55:30.120]  I'm already starting to mean it.
[03:55:30.640 --> 03:55:31.820]  I can see it from outside.
[03:55:31.960 --> 03:55:35.020]  That was the red and red colors.
[03:55:36.580 --> 03:55:38.320]  You got like this land services.
[03:55:39.080 --> 03:55:40.420]  There was two red colors.
[03:55:40.500 --> 03:55:41.740]  I'm sorry, I thought it was 12.
[03:55:41.880 --> 03:55:42.800]  Yeah, I did too, sorry.
[03:55:43.620 --> 03:55:44.380]  I apologize.
[03:55:47.860 --> 03:55:49.000]  What page are you on?
[03:55:49.160 --> 03:55:50.080]  Page 2.
[03:55:51.200 --> 03:55:52.440]  I can't see it.
[03:55:52.680 --> 03:55:53.120]  1119.
[03:55:53.120 --> 03:55:54.100]  The Medicilaneous.
[03:55:54.640 --> 03:55:55.600]  Yeah, 1119.
[03:55:55.980 --> 03:55:56.420]  Okay.
[03:55:56.740 --> 03:55:58.140]  You don't know what it was for?
[03:55:58.360 --> 03:55:59.000]  She didn't have any.
[03:56:01.400 --> 03:56:01.840]  Okay.
[03:56:08.360 --> 03:56:11.240]  It is 1119.
[03:56:12.560 --> 03:56:13.000]  11108.
[03:56:13.040 --> 03:56:15.100]  Just tear the lid off of one and cut it in
half or something.
[03:56:15.100 --> 03:56:17.180]  The twelve thousand five hundred.
[03:56:17.300 --> 03:56:17.880]  What kind do we have?
[03:56:18.180 --> 03:56:19.660]  I've got to go back to where he's at.
[03:56:19.880 --> 03:56:20.420]  What's this one?
[03:56:26.160 --> 03:56:27.080]  That's just meat.
[03:56:27.340 --> 03:56:28.680]  That has some meat to it.
[03:56:28.840 --> 03:56:29.220]  Daddy?
[03:56:31.200 --> 03:56:35.240]  My question is the only difference you'll
see is the difference between a general
[03:56:35.240 --> 03:56:39.800]  city election and that decreases the
size...
[03:56:39.800 --> 03:56:40.540]  I've got a hat for me.
[03:56:42.040 --> 03:56:43.340]  I've got a hat for me.
[03:56:43.440 --> 03:56:44.460]  Okay, I might know a man.
[03:57:04.540 --> 03:57:07.280]  Does anybody have any questions about
Amy's budget?
[03:57:07.920 --> 03:57:09.440]  I didn't have any notes on it.
[03:57:11.260 --> 03:57:12.780]  Bring me a piece down too, thanks.
[03:57:14.040 --> 03:57:14.800]  You sharing?
[03:57:15.160 --> 03:57:16.200]  You can have any of that.
[03:57:16.340 --> 03:57:16.840]  I don't care.
[03:57:16.920 --> 03:57:17.900]  I can hold.
[03:57:20.340 --> 03:57:22.360]  It's not a good election year,
is it, next year?
[03:57:22.420 --> 03:57:22.980]  There's not much.
[03:57:23.020 --> 03:57:24.980]  So is it city election next year?
[03:57:25.120 --> 03:57:29.300]  So we have way less sites and workers,
which brings down.
[03:57:29.440 --> 03:57:34.300]  But we still have the same expenses as
well as building the ballot and those
[03:57:34.300 --> 03:57:35.120]  types of things.
[03:57:35.120 --> 03:57:42.320]  We have to put a line on the ballot,
so it will decrease, but we'll still have
[03:57:42.320 --> 03:57:46.900]  the election equipment and expenses and
things like that, so we always cut where
[03:57:46.900 --> 03:57:51.380]  we can and the election comes way down.
[03:57:51.740 --> 03:57:54.440]  Is that why that equipment budget is way
down?
[03:57:55.100 --> 03:57:55.620]  Yes.
[03:57:55.740 --> 03:57:56.420]  The answer?
[03:57:56.620 --> 03:57:57.060]  Yes.
[03:57:57.320 --> 03:57:57.840]  Yes.
[03:57:57.840 --> 03:57:58.520]  Very good.
[03:58:02.340 --> 03:58:13.600]  The equipment line, we have went over with
our providers and we have purchased... so
[03:58:13.600 --> 03:58:14.160]  we are good.
[03:58:17.890 --> 03:58:24.270]  At some point, I spoke with them and they
are testing equipment right now.
[03:58:27.930 --> 03:58:35.250]  And later on, you guys may have to look at
upgrading the election machines that we
[03:58:35.250 --> 03:58:36.930]  have, but that's going to be forever.
[03:58:37.190 --> 03:58:37.690]  Okay.
[03:58:37.690 --> 03:58:39.730]  So that will come later with whoever sent
something.
[03:58:41.390 --> 03:58:43.370]  So I have nothing else to say.
[03:58:43.450 --> 03:58:44.970]  Anybody else have anything on the
election?
[03:58:45.130 --> 03:58:45.490]  Roger?
[03:58:46.830 --> 03:58:47.530]  If it
[03:58:50.630 --> 03:58:52.210]  stands as it is as well.
[03:58:52.390 --> 03:58:56.630]  Yeah, I don't have anything highlighted.
[03:58:56.630 --> 03:58:58.570]  Did anybody else highlight it?
[03:58:59.510 --> 03:58:59.970]  No.
[03:59:00.390 --> 03:59:02.570]  We don't overspend.
[03:59:02.630 --> 03:59:04.610]  We try to return back to what we don't
need.
[03:59:07.570 --> 03:59:08.550]  Thank you, Amy.
[03:59:08.830 --> 03:59:10.170]  Thank you.
[03:59:10.350 --> 03:59:11.070]  Appreciate it.
[03:59:15.150 --> 03:59:16.550]  It should all be that easy.
[03:59:17.110 --> 03:59:17.570]  Yeah.
[03:59:19.670 --> 03:59:20.830]  You're our hero.
[03:59:22.490 --> 03:59:23.170]  We'll see you.
[03:59:23.370 --> 03:59:23.950]  It does.
[03:59:25.890 --> 03:59:27.370]  But it was pretty cut and dry.
[03:59:27.790 --> 03:59:28.650]  That much it is.
[03:59:28.650 --> 03:59:31.050]  Did she say anything about the
miscellaneous on these?
[03:59:31.230 --> 03:59:32.890]  She said she didn't need furniture.
[03:59:33.050 --> 03:59:33.910]  She didn't take it out.
[03:59:34.030 --> 03:59:34.910]  Yeah, we took it out.
[03:59:36.170 --> 03:59:36.970]  On the...
[03:59:36.970 --> 03:59:40.030]  On the bottom, the furniture was $4,000.
[03:59:40.030 --> 03:59:41.090]  She said she didn't need it.
[03:59:41.210 --> 03:59:42.370]  She didn't take it out.
[03:59:42.790 --> 03:59:43.910]  Did you capture that?
[03:59:44.230 --> 03:59:44.510]  Yeah.
[03:59:46.590 --> 03:59:47.930]  We left it in there.
[03:59:48.050 --> 03:59:52.370]  We left it in there, but that will be up
to the finance whether they'll take that
[03:59:52.370 --> 03:59:52.550]  out.
[03:59:52.630 --> 03:59:56.570]  But I was looking at the reduced on the
equipment, the $66,000.
[04:00:05.790 --> 04:00:08.790]  Are you guys leaving the 4,000 in?
[04:00:08.870 --> 04:00:09.810]  She said she didn't need it.
[04:00:10.170 --> 04:00:11.270]  No, we're not leaving it out.
[04:00:11.510 --> 04:00:12.230]  She said she didn't need it.
[04:00:12.330 --> 04:00:12.590]  Okay.
[04:00:22.600 --> 04:00:23.700]  Okay, where was I at?
[04:00:26.400 --> 04:00:28.580]  We've got emergency management next to us.
[04:00:29.500 --> 04:00:30.640]  Which is Jerry Shepherd.
[04:00:30.640 --> 04:00:30.640]  How old is Jared Shepard?
[04:00:31.680 --> 04:00:32.100]  23.
[04:00:34.520 --> 04:00:34.940]  Yep.
[04:00:36.320 --> 04:00:37.200]  Hey did you hear that?
[04:00:37.200 --> 04:00:38.180]  He should be 12-15.
[04:00:39.340 --> 04:00:39.760]  Yeah.
[04:00:39.780 --> 04:00:40.580]  Did you hear that?
[04:00:42.980 --> 04:00:44.300]  Not that I know of.
[04:00:44.300 --> 04:00:45.240]  I haven't heard that.
[04:00:45.280 --> 04:00:45.760]  Had you?
[04:00:46.560 --> 04:00:46.980]  No.
[04:00:49.720 --> 04:00:50.520]  I haven't heard that.
[04:00:53.900 --> 04:00:54.520]  You did?
[04:00:54.800 --> 04:00:55.760]  He said he had not.
[04:01:00.930 --> 04:01:02.410]  Jerry Shepard leaving EMS.
[04:01:02.610 --> 04:01:03.510]  I haven't heard that in years.
[04:01:03.550 --> 04:01:04.790]  Well, he's old enough to retire.
[04:01:05.290 --> 04:01:06.450]  He's older than me.
[04:01:06.710 --> 04:01:07.390]  Yeah, he's older than me.
[04:01:07.630 --> 04:01:07.970]  Mm-hmm.
[04:01:08.470 --> 04:01:10.030]  Well, I'm one day older than Dirk.
[04:01:15.070 --> 04:01:15.870]  I'm topsoil.
[04:01:18.290 --> 04:01:19.290]  Jerry's freezing to death!
[04:01:19.730 --> 04:01:21.110]  Well, we turned the heat up, Jerry.
[04:01:21.110 --> 04:01:21.850]  I'm warmer now.
[04:01:21.930 --> 04:01:22.610]  We turned the heat up, son.
[04:01:22.850 --> 04:01:23.530]  We don't know.
[04:01:24.550 --> 04:01:26.050]  We turned the heat up, Jerry.
[04:01:26.590 --> 04:01:28.010]  I eat like a grown-up.
[04:01:29.270 --> 04:01:29.890]  You are?
[04:01:32.290 --> 04:01:35.650]  You know, at some point, you quit growing
vertical in your grove.
[04:01:35.830 --> 04:01:36.310]  I know.
[04:01:37.730 --> 04:01:39.030]  Did you get this pizza?
[04:01:39.650 --> 04:01:40.610]  We can all chip in.
[04:01:40.650 --> 04:01:41.370]  How much places was that?
[04:01:41.450 --> 04:01:41.830]  Don't worry about it.
[04:01:41.930 --> 04:01:44.510]  All through the service, about 160,
162.
[04:01:44.890 --> 04:01:45.770]  They get out of service.
[04:01:45.770 --> 04:01:46.470]  Push a parting gift.
[04:01:46.750 --> 04:01:47.930]  A parting gift.
[04:01:49.070 --> 04:01:50.630]  It's only up to like 230.
[04:01:51.670 --> 04:01:53.450]  I'm not going to give you a parting gift.
[04:01:54.670 --> 04:01:56.750]  And now I'm back down to 184.
[04:01:59.910 --> 04:02:00.630]  That's what happened.
[04:02:16.910 --> 04:02:18.430]  Tina can't hear me down there.
[04:02:18.530 --> 04:02:21.230]  What kind of luncheon was you at?
[04:02:21.430 --> 04:02:22.610]  I'm going... I'm not.
[04:02:22.770 --> 04:02:23.610]  It's at 1230.
[04:02:23.830 --> 04:02:25.250]  Aaron Houchin's in town.
[04:02:26.050 --> 04:02:26.990]  Oh, you haven't went?
[04:02:27.190 --> 04:02:28.230]  No, I'll go at 1230.
[04:02:28.350 --> 04:02:28.970]  Oh, okay.
[04:02:30.870 --> 04:02:31.870]  I'm not going to eat lunch.
[04:02:31.970 --> 04:02:33.290]  It's just a question and answer.
[04:02:33.370 --> 04:02:35.150]  They asked somebody from the council to be
there.
[04:02:35.310 --> 04:02:36.770]  Are you going to work for her?
[04:02:37.310 --> 04:02:38.930]  No, I'm not going to work for Erin
Houchin.
[04:02:39.030 --> 04:02:40.990]  Alex tried to get me to go with Amanda
Cunningham.
[04:02:41.610 --> 04:02:43.630]  That would be a good office to work at.
[04:02:43.670 --> 04:02:43.890]  I know.
[04:02:43.990 --> 04:02:45.730]  No, I've got my eye on something else.
[04:02:46.050 --> 04:02:46.770]  Who is she going to be?
[04:02:46.870 --> 04:02:47.730]  She's got two of those.
[04:02:47.870 --> 04:02:49.270]  I didn't know if people would stay.
[04:02:51.190 --> 04:02:51.930]  I'll be by anything.
[04:02:52.570 --> 04:02:52.890]  Devin.
[04:02:54.090 --> 04:02:54.410]  Maggie.
[04:02:56.170 --> 04:02:57.950]  It would be good for you to get in a
two-room.
[04:02:58.070 --> 04:02:59.090]  It would be, wouldn't it?
[04:03:14.850 --> 04:03:16.710]  Are we going to have any other meetings?
[04:03:16.970 --> 04:03:18.210]  Just budget meetings?
[04:03:22.010 --> 04:03:25.230]  Dave, are we having another meeting over
the budget before we...
[04:03:44.150 --> 04:03:48.490]  I think it would be best, and then we
won't do what we did last year,
[04:03:48.570 --> 04:03:51.990]  this is what we're adopting.
[04:03:55.980 --> 04:03:56.380]  Yeah.
[04:04:00.460 --> 04:04:02.220]  Can you have an executive session?
[04:04:03.620 --> 04:04:04.560]  I think you can.
[04:04:05.840 --> 04:04:07.320]  I'll find out, talk to Alex.
[04:04:07.820 --> 04:04:11.440]  We might have like a meeting before we
adopt it, the night we adopt it.
[04:04:11.520 --> 04:04:11.800]  Uh huh.
[04:04:19.640 --> 04:04:20.600]  Thank you, Mike.
[04:04:22.660 --> 04:04:25.100]  Thank you, Mike, for lunch.
[04:04:26.160 --> 04:04:27.520]  Oh, did you eat something?
[04:04:27.740 --> 04:04:28.100]  I did.
[04:04:28.160 --> 04:04:29.600]  I ate off of Dave.
[04:04:30.980 --> 04:04:31.960]  You doubled it.
[04:04:32.520 --> 04:04:35.060]  No, I didn't put my lips in that garlic.
[04:04:35.280 --> 04:04:36.280]  I did not.
[04:04:37.160 --> 04:04:38.680]  No, I did not, Dave.
[04:04:51.500 --> 04:04:54.220]  You want to do it before your
advertisement.
[04:04:54.900 --> 04:04:59.900]  Because if you are increasing the salary,
you want that captured on the
[04:04:59.900 --> 04:05:00.300]  advertisement.
[04:05:01.800 --> 04:05:03.820]  Because once we advertise, we can't
increase it.
[04:05:04.880 --> 04:05:05.360]  Right.
[04:05:05.640 --> 04:05:09.220]  I don't think we're going to do that.
[04:05:09.620 --> 04:05:10.560]  Well, if we can advertise.
[04:05:11.480 --> 04:05:15.400]  So for a lot of units, their budget is
done by advertisement.
[04:05:20.240 --> 04:05:22.120]  I don't think we're going to be doing
that.
[04:05:24.740 --> 04:05:26.760]  I know what you're saying.
[04:05:27.360 --> 04:05:30.360]  I'm saying if you're going to have that
meeting and make changes, if we do it
[04:05:30.360 --> 04:05:32.520]  before advertisement, to make sure...
[04:05:37.840 --> 04:05:39.100]  That's only in wages.
[04:05:43.690 --> 04:05:45.610]  Yeah, I don't see that ever changing.
[04:05:45.950 --> 04:05:47.510]  Well, not now.
[04:05:48.350 --> 04:05:54.630]  I'm just saying, if you guys agree to do a
raise post-advertisement, that would put
[04:05:54.630 --> 04:05:56.290]  us in an additional preparation situation.
[04:05:56.770 --> 04:05:57.070]  Yep.
[04:06:41.010 --> 04:06:44.590]  Has this been changed for our conversation
of the day or not?
[04:06:44.930 --> 04:06:47.710]  Well, yeah, yeah.
[04:06:48.090 --> 04:06:50.010]  Is this day dead or is it going to go up?
[04:06:50.030 --> 04:06:51.290]  It's talking about 15.
[04:06:52.110 --> 04:06:54.450]  Well, are those three positions?
[04:06:54.730 --> 04:06:55.550]  No, this is one.
[04:06:56.250 --> 04:06:57.070]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[04:06:57.110 --> 04:06:58.430]  No, I haven't talked to him about that.
[04:06:58.510 --> 04:07:00.830]  Let me... we'll talk about that.
[04:07:00.950 --> 04:07:01.870]  Yeah, I didn't know.
[04:07:02.390 --> 04:07:04.950]  Yeah, no, no, we haven't discussed that.
[04:07:07.030 --> 04:07:08.730]  But I'll bring it up in a moment,
dude.
[04:07:09.530 --> 04:07:11.470]  Well, not just because he said that.
[04:07:12.050 --> 04:07:12.970]  That won't last.
[04:07:13.670 --> 04:07:14.830]  Well, yes, it will last.
[04:07:14.830 --> 04:07:15.030]  Yeah.
[04:07:15.490 --> 04:07:17.450]  That priest has to advertise it.
[04:07:18.970 --> 04:07:20.270]  The one we talked about last night.
[04:07:20.270 --> 04:07:20.630]  Hey, there!
[04:07:36.710 --> 04:07:37.810]  Well, we're on the dot.
[04:07:37.810 --> 04:07:40.670]  We're on schedule.
[04:07:43.670 --> 04:07:48.770]  We're writing on the EMS, EMA,
Emergency Management.
[04:07:49.430 --> 04:07:50.430]  Is he ahead of me?
[04:07:50.770 --> 04:07:52.830]  Yep, you're after him.
[04:07:57.630 --> 04:07:59.510]  Yeah, that top one.
[04:08:18.830 --> 04:08:20.910]  I could eat that pizza and I could never
stop.
[04:08:54.010 --> 04:08:55.370]  Jerry Shepard is a little early.
[04:08:57.450 --> 04:08:59.010]  That's good, we can go.
[04:08:59.770 --> 04:09:00.210]  We're good?
[04:09:00.550 --> 04:09:01.810]  Yeah, if you're ready, we're ready.
[04:09:19.980 --> 04:09:22.760]  I'll go ahead and get it started because
I'm going to leave here in about 10
[04:09:22.760 --> 04:09:23.000]  minutes.
[04:09:25.020 --> 04:09:27.280]  Um, I'm going to check some 50s on mine.
[04:09:28.040 --> 04:09:29.620]  We are on one page.
[04:09:31.440 --> 04:09:31.840]  Yep.
[04:09:34.660 --> 04:09:36.780]  Okay, so I'll just start, Jerry.
[04:09:36.780 --> 04:09:42.720]  We are trying to label everything that is
in miscellaneous services.
[04:09:42.980 --> 04:09:44.840]  We're trying to give it a name.
[04:09:45.080 --> 04:09:48.100]  So, can you tell us what's being paid out
of miscellaneous services?
[04:09:48.620 --> 04:09:52.080]  That fund is normally used for things that
come up like...
[04:09:53.760 --> 04:09:57.760]  and like right now what's going on with
the sirens.
[04:09:58.040 --> 04:09:58.500]  Uh-huh.
[04:09:58.560 --> 04:09:59.760]  Pay out for that.
[04:09:59.880 --> 04:10:02.160]  There's emergency warning services.
[04:10:02.920 --> 04:10:03.800]  Emergency what?
[04:10:04.040 --> 04:10:05.520]  Like your radio calls.
[04:10:12.740 --> 04:10:13.100]  Okay.
[04:10:13.100 --> 04:10:14.820]  So how do you want to label that?
[04:10:31.640 --> 04:10:32.940]  So what do you think of the council?
[04:10:37.120 --> 04:10:41.460]  Well once we label it though, that's the
only way it can be spent.
[04:10:41.640 --> 04:10:41.760]  Yeah.
[04:10:41.860 --> 04:10:44.860]  So if you put it only on equipment,
it could only be spent on equipment.
[04:10:45.980 --> 04:10:48.220]  If it's maintenance, it It could only have
been on maintenance.
[04:10:48.840 --> 04:10:49.620]  I'm on maintenance.
[04:10:50.280 --> 04:10:54.490]  Equipment would be what we do.
[04:10:54.570 --> 04:10:56.270]  Because what you were saying was mostly
equipment.
[04:10:56.410 --> 04:10:58.610]  Yeah, it's all equipment pretty much.
[04:10:58.750 --> 04:11:01.430]  You have the equipment line, but this is
equipment with batteries.
[04:11:02.890 --> 04:11:04.290]  115-118-08.
[04:11:04.870 --> 04:11:06.190]  You could just put it in that line.
[04:11:09.090 --> 04:11:11.450]  And when are they going to get both of
those lines?
[04:11:11.510 --> 04:11:13.850]  Yeah, could we just move it over to the
equipment batteries, EMA?
[04:11:17.920 --> 04:11:19.020]  Or there's a radio...
[04:11:19.020 --> 04:11:20.020]  Well, then we'd have to rename that.
[04:11:20.020 --> 04:11:21.840]  There's a radio in the equipment line too.
[04:11:24.820 --> 04:11:29.920]  Can we just leave it, leave it separate
for that fund for, as it is,
[04:11:29.940 --> 04:11:30.700]  miscellaneous?
[04:11:30.940 --> 04:11:35.360]  No, we pulled everybody's miscellaneous
out and labeled it.
[04:11:35.540 --> 04:11:36.780]  It has to have a title.
[04:11:37.300 --> 04:11:39.680]  We have to clean it up.
[04:11:40.620 --> 04:11:42.000]  So what do you want it called?
[04:11:42.960 --> 04:11:43.440]  Equipment.
[04:11:43.480 --> 04:11:43.960]  Equipment?
[04:11:44.080 --> 04:11:44.400]  Okay.
[04:11:46.240 --> 04:11:49.820]  Well, if it's going to be called
equipment, did it need to be in that
[04:11:49.820 --> 04:11:50.500]  equipment line?
[04:11:50.500 --> 04:11:53.860]  That's why I was asking if there's one
radio in the batteries.
[04:11:54.440 --> 04:11:56.340]  Why can't it be stuck in that 1170?
[04:11:57.440 --> 04:11:58.740]  No, it wouldn't be hard to use.
[04:11:59.480 --> 04:12:00.800]  You can still use that.
[04:12:01.120 --> 04:12:03.500]  Yeah, so can we combine those two?
[04:12:04.160 --> 04:12:09.380]  It needs to say equipment slash batteries,
so that way the equipment and more
[04:12:09.380 --> 04:12:09.880]  batteries.
[04:12:10.000 --> 04:12:13.900]  So you want to keep the line open instead
of combine the two?
[04:12:15.120 --> 04:12:16.600]  Or you want to combine the two?
[04:12:17.100 --> 04:12:17.920]  Combine the two.
[04:12:17.960 --> 04:12:19.000]  Combine the two, okay.
[04:12:19.000 --> 04:12:26.000]  You keep it under that same, at 1170,
and it will say equipment slash batteries.
[04:12:26.180 --> 04:12:28.100]  But we already have a radio slash
equipment.
[04:12:28.860 --> 04:12:30.460]  We've already got radio slash equipment.
[04:12:30.680 --> 04:12:32.060]  Then hold on a second.
[04:12:33.000 --> 04:12:35.280]  So then why can't you put them all
together?
[04:12:35.560 --> 04:12:37.840]  Why does it have to be separated like
that?
[04:12:38.180 --> 04:12:38.580]  It doesn't.
[04:12:38.960 --> 04:12:40.000]  Yeah, it wouldn't have to be.
[04:12:40.060 --> 04:12:42.280]  Let's clean it up and make it all one
line.
[04:12:42.620 --> 04:12:48.220]  So the only thing I'll say is 1151 is
currently at a surplus.
[04:12:52.960 --> 04:12:55.780]  So I'll leave that to what you guys want
to do.
[04:12:55.860 --> 04:12:58.320]  What was it, $25,000?
[04:12:59.460 --> 04:13:04.420]  I was going to make that $45,000 deficit
$70,000 in public safety.
[04:13:05.260 --> 04:13:06.560]  So we probably don't want to do that.
[04:13:16.290 --> 04:13:17.810]  I'm going to think it's $3,000 per second.
[04:13:19.030 --> 04:13:19.990]  $11,780?
[04:13:21.930 --> 04:13:26.270]  I'm not seeing that $1,170 for $45,000.
[04:13:26.410 --> 04:13:27.190]  No, no, no.
[04:13:27.190 --> 04:13:31.730]  If you look at the budget summary,
it should be either in the front or the
[04:13:31.730 --> 04:13:33.010]  back of that entire...
[04:13:33.010 --> 04:13:34.490]  It's on the screen.
[04:13:35.090 --> 04:13:38.950]  So the entire budget in $1,151 is that
line.
[04:13:39.550 --> 04:13:42.830]  With their revenues, they're projected to
surplus $18,000.
[04:13:42.830 --> 04:13:47.070]  $1,170 currently is a $4.8 million budget.
[04:13:54.850 --> 04:13:58.350]  But we could move it into... so tell me
with this stuff.
[04:13:58.970 --> 04:14:00.570]  Okay, so 1170.
[04:14:01.230 --> 04:14:02.810]  That's the safety lid.
[04:14:03.810 --> 04:14:06.390]  And then the battery 1170.
[04:14:08.150 --> 04:14:11.390]  So you want to keep it, like he said,
in that fund right there.
[04:14:11.490 --> 04:14:13.450]  Just name it equipment out of that fund.
[04:14:13.670 --> 04:14:14.150]  Correct?
[04:14:15.950 --> 04:14:19.170]  So you have equipment, then equipment
batteries, and radio equipment.
[04:14:19.250 --> 04:14:20.850]  Yeah, but it's a different fund.
[04:14:21.070 --> 04:14:22.690]  Yeah, different funds.
[04:14:23.190 --> 04:14:23.890]  So you don't want to put that in?
[04:14:23.930 --> 04:14:24.930]  No, we don't want to combine them,
Jerry.
[04:14:25.010 --> 04:14:25.390]  Okay.
[04:14:25.510 --> 04:14:26.330]  It's paid out to you.
[04:14:26.330 --> 04:14:26.930]  You're right, Jerry.
[04:14:27.130 --> 04:14:28.530]  So it would have been level 51?
[04:14:28.890 --> 04:14:29.710]  Level 51.
[04:14:29.850 --> 04:14:30.230]  Yeah.
[04:14:30.230 --> 04:14:30.990]  We're going to name it equipment.
[04:14:31.090 --> 04:14:31.430]  It's equipment.
[04:14:31.690 --> 04:14:31.970]  Equipment.
[04:14:32.610 --> 04:14:33.510]  Stage right, what's that?
[04:14:33.750 --> 04:14:34.430]  Talk to me about that.
[04:14:35.190 --> 04:14:37.610]  Because not knowing what those fund
numbers are...
[04:14:37.610 --> 04:14:37.850]  Right.
[04:14:40.790 --> 04:14:41.490]  Your fault.
[04:14:46.100 --> 04:14:47.020]  Of course.
[04:14:53.240 --> 04:14:54.720]  What else you got Jerry?
[04:14:58.040 --> 04:15:00.800]  Which is?
[04:15:00.920 --> 04:15:02.260]  Tell me what sum that is.
[04:15:05.560 --> 04:15:06.020]  Yep.
[04:15:11.520 --> 04:15:12.540]  I'm not seeing it.
[04:15:20.660 --> 04:15:22.300]  I'm still not seeing it on ours.
[04:15:27.480 --> 04:15:28.380]  Do you see it?
[04:15:29.520 --> 04:15:31.080]  I don't see it on anything.
[04:15:31.340 --> 04:15:32.240]  I don't see it on here.
[04:15:32.360 --> 04:15:32.580]  What is it?
[04:15:33.040 --> 04:15:33.400]  1151.
[04:15:33.400 --> 04:15:34.480]  It's a non-reverting fund.
[04:15:34.540 --> 04:15:35.680]  It says it's got 100 and what in it?
[04:15:37.380 --> 04:15:38.840]  Do you have that on yours?
[04:15:39.820 --> 04:15:41.000]  Let me see your paper.
[04:15:41.140 --> 04:15:42.220]  Did you turn it in with your 401?
[04:15:44.420 --> 04:15:46.020]  Oh, he's talking about cash on him.
[04:15:46.900 --> 04:15:48.700]  Projected cash at the end of next year.
[04:15:50.740 --> 04:15:52.080]  Okay, I was talking about this.
[04:15:52.120 --> 04:15:53.800]  You would have gotten one of these back.
[04:15:53.800 --> 04:15:54.100]  No.
[04:15:54.480 --> 04:15:55.220]  You didn't?
[04:15:55.640 --> 04:15:56.060]  Yeah.
[04:15:57.060 --> 04:15:59.380]  I wanted to see where it was at on here.
[04:16:01.040 --> 04:16:01.940]  So is this different?
[04:16:02.460 --> 04:16:02.880]  Yes.
[04:16:04.620 --> 04:16:05.720]  What's the question, sir?
[04:16:06.880 --> 04:16:10.720]  If we, and I don't use anything,
I was promised I would be able to come to
[04:16:10.720 --> 04:16:12.720]  council for it?
[04:16:12.860 --> 04:16:13.240]  Yeah.
[04:16:13.360 --> 04:16:17.820]  That means your sonic fund, I wasn't sure.
[04:16:18.720 --> 04:16:19.760]  Your sonic fund?
[04:16:19.920 --> 04:16:20.740]  I thought that was...
[04:16:23.080 --> 04:16:26.460]  He said Aaron's running about 15 minutes
behind so I'm not going to wait until
[04:16:26.460 --> 04:16:26.920]  1230.
[04:16:34.440 --> 04:16:34.860]  Okay.
[04:16:34.860 --> 04:16:36.020]  Done anything else, Jaron?
[04:16:43.400 --> 04:16:46.260]  Did you get the whole truck thing
straightened out with the commissioners on
[04:16:46.260 --> 04:16:46.580]  the bond?
[04:16:47.800 --> 04:16:51.500]  Did you get the whole vehicle thing
straightened out with the commissioners on
[04:16:51.500 --> 04:16:51.800]  the bond?
[04:16:51.960 --> 04:16:52.480]  Never did?
[04:16:53.140 --> 04:16:53.960]  So what do you need?
[04:16:54.600 --> 04:16:55.940]  I think it's next year.
[04:16:56.120 --> 04:16:56.900]  Okay, okay.
[04:16:56.900 --> 04:16:57.060]  Okay.
[04:16:58.020 --> 04:16:58.380]  Okay.
[04:16:59.000 --> 04:16:59.800]  I couldn't remember.
[04:16:59.920 --> 04:17:00.680]  We talked about it.
[04:17:01.320 --> 04:17:06.240]  He was supposed to... he put a vehicle in
the bond and he wanted to make sure that
[04:17:06.240 --> 04:17:08.060]  he could start getting bids for that.
[04:17:08.260 --> 04:17:08.780]  You can do it now.
[04:17:10.180 --> 04:17:11.160]  It's a capital fund.
[04:17:11.880 --> 04:17:14.360]  He needs to check with the commissioners
to make sure that they have it.
[04:17:14.760 --> 04:17:15.740]  They should have it.
[04:17:16.600 --> 04:17:17.440]  Well, they have it.
[04:17:18.340 --> 04:17:18.960]  Right now.
[04:17:19.000 --> 04:17:19.900]  Have to get there quick.
[04:17:47.020 --> 04:17:47.880]  Thank you, Jerry.
[04:17:48.620 --> 04:17:49.240]  Thank you.
[04:17:49.260 --> 04:17:49.640]  See you Sunday.
[04:17:58.570 --> 04:17:59.690]  Oh, Franklin.
[04:18:04.130 --> 04:18:09.810]  So my accountant is from Franklin County,
and so I messaged he and his assistant,
[04:18:10.090 --> 04:18:14.950]  and they both told me they weren't
affected, but the area that was,
[04:18:14.950 --> 04:18:18.650]  it's already the poorest part of Franklin
County, and those people are already
[04:18:18.650 --> 04:18:25.130]  probably no insurance, no, I mean,
displaced, nowhere to go, no resources.
[04:18:25.330 --> 04:18:27.670]  I mean, they are the force of the poor,
they told me.
[04:18:37.910 --> 04:18:41.010]  That's what they both... I reached out to
them on Friday.
[04:18:41.370 --> 04:18:42.890]  And they both said the same thing.
[04:18:43.470 --> 04:18:45.130]  It's heart-wrenching.
[04:18:45.950 --> 04:18:46.950]  Thank you, Jerry.
[04:18:47.670 --> 04:18:50.190]  Hey, how's that girl doing at the law
school?
[04:18:55.830 --> 04:19:01.010]  She's on her way, on her way.
[04:19:01.030 --> 04:19:01.790]  Hey, thanks, Jerry.
[04:19:02.050 --> 04:19:03.710]  She needs to go see Jason.
[04:19:04.090 --> 04:19:06.790]  Yes, we're looking for a prosecutor in
this county.
[04:19:09.030 --> 04:19:10.430]  Tell her to come see Jason real quick.
[04:19:12.490 --> 04:19:13.730]  We're going to run ahead of schedule.
[04:19:14.070 --> 04:19:14.710]  Page 31.
[04:19:15.110 --> 04:19:15.110]  You're up.
[04:19:15.370 --> 04:19:15.850]  31.
[04:19:16.210 --> 04:19:16.810]  Page 31.
[04:19:35.470 --> 04:19:38.450]  Okay, same thing on your miscellaneous.
[04:19:38.510 --> 04:19:39.150]  I'll start there.
[04:19:39.630 --> 04:19:43.110]  Okay, the only miscellaneous I see online
is the 4939.
[04:19:43.690 --> 04:19:48.530]  And that's not a miscellaneous That is
local health maintenance fund.
[04:19:49.350 --> 04:19:53.890]  And with that there should, there was
local health maintenance and tobacco
[04:19:53.890 --> 04:20:00.750]  settlement and those funds we no longer
get but the money that's in there,
[04:20:00.950 --> 04:20:04.590]  we use that as supplies in both accounts.
[04:20:05.050 --> 04:20:09.370]  I have to budget those through the state
and get them approved through the state
[04:20:09.370 --> 04:20:10.570]  before we can spend them.
[04:20:10.570 --> 04:20:16.410]  I did bring my approval letter,
which the office should have already had a
[04:20:16.410 --> 04:20:16.670]  copy of.
[04:20:16.810 --> 04:20:17.430]  No, it isn't.
[04:20:18.590 --> 04:20:21.010]  But she's saying a lot more than I'm
seeing.
[04:20:21.170 --> 04:20:21.590]  Me too.
[04:20:21.690 --> 04:20:22.710]  I'm not seeing any of that.
[04:20:23.550 --> 04:20:25.290]  Well, I'll show you what I see.
[04:20:25.530 --> 04:20:26.470]  I'm not seeing...
[04:20:26.470 --> 04:20:27.390]  Are you seeing the paper?
[04:20:27.590 --> 04:20:29.110]  We're asking you about this paper.
[04:20:29.810 --> 04:20:31.730]  This that we sent back to you.
[04:20:33.370 --> 04:20:34.170]  Yeah, that one.
[04:20:34.430 --> 04:20:34.830]  Yeah.
[04:20:35.650 --> 04:20:37.490]  I don't see what you're seeing.
[04:20:37.830 --> 04:20:38.830]  Well, yeah, you are.
[04:20:39.050 --> 04:20:40.070]  Yeah, it's the same thing.
[04:20:40.070 --> 04:20:40.990]  What are you talking about?
[04:20:41.070 --> 04:20:43.090]  Yeah, we're talking about this
miscellaneous...
[04:20:43.090 --> 04:20:45.790]  That is not a miscellaneous fund.
[04:20:45.910 --> 04:20:48.070]  That is the local health maintenance fund.
[04:20:48.310 --> 04:20:48.710]  But it's...
[04:20:49.250 --> 04:20:49.970]  It's labeled.
[04:20:50.190 --> 04:20:51.570]  Right, that's why we need to change it.
[04:20:51.610 --> 04:20:52.210]  That's what we're saying.
[04:20:52.590 --> 04:20:53.330]  That's all we need.
[04:20:53.510 --> 04:20:54.830]  Yeah, we just need a name on it.
[04:20:55.150 --> 04:20:56.130]  So health maintenance.
[04:20:56.310 --> 04:20:58.650]  That one is local health maintenance fund.
[04:21:01.430 --> 04:21:03.190]  Is that your grant fund though?
[04:21:03.250 --> 04:21:03.610]  It is.
[04:21:04.330 --> 04:21:05.590]  It was a grant.
[04:21:05.630 --> 04:21:07.290]  It's carryover money from the grant.
[04:21:08.330 --> 04:21:08.770]  Okay.
[04:21:13.830 --> 04:21:17.330]  So the trust account is not on hand.
[04:21:17.570 --> 04:21:21.810]  So is that label different than the health
maintenance?
[04:21:22.750 --> 04:21:27.210]  To me they're... I filled out the same
paperwork for both of them.
[04:21:27.490 --> 04:21:30.190]  Everything's on one, so they are separate
accounts.
[04:21:30.190 --> 04:21:30.670]  What is it?
[04:21:30.750 --> 04:21:30.990]  Sorry.
[04:21:31.150 --> 04:21:33.930]  The Indiana local trust account.
[04:21:37.650 --> 04:21:41.770]  And I can't remember... 1149?
[04:21:43.430 --> 04:21:47.950]  I can't remember the number on it.
[04:21:52.000 --> 04:21:53.840]  I don't remember the number on it.
[04:21:54.800 --> 04:22:00.820]  We started out with 17,660 in it.
[04:22:02.860 --> 04:22:04.180]  Oh wait, wrong one.
[04:22:04.820 --> 04:22:06.320]  23,000 in it.
[04:22:17.440 --> 04:22:18.160]  12.06?
[04:22:20.560 --> 04:22:21.040]  This one?
[04:22:21.260 --> 04:22:22.040]  Yes, that's it.
[04:22:23.980 --> 04:22:25.160]  We don't have it on here?
[04:22:25.520 --> 04:22:26.280]  I didn't see it.
[04:22:26.300 --> 04:22:26.700]  I don't see it.
[04:22:26.720 --> 04:22:27.240]  I don't either.
[04:22:32.480 --> 04:22:34.940]  Hey, Tina.
[04:22:35.280 --> 04:22:35.620]  Mm-hmm?
[04:22:36.460 --> 04:22:37.420]  Do I need that now?
[04:22:37.600 --> 04:22:38.240]  I don't think so.
[04:22:39.540 --> 04:22:40.720]  She's like, you haven't seen it.
[04:22:41.180 --> 04:22:48.860]  Listen, Gina and I have an understanding
I'm understanding that he's going to brush
[04:22:48.860 --> 04:22:49.620]  my teeth when I go.
[04:22:49.720 --> 04:22:52.380]  Even though they don't, he's going to be
like, Anthony, brush your teeth.
[04:22:52.380 --> 04:22:55.020]  The problem is I'm older, so I'll probably
die from the first sentence.
[04:22:55.160 --> 04:22:56.280]  I've already talked to all of them.
[04:22:58.180 --> 04:22:59.620]  I've already got it done that cheap.
[04:23:00.940 --> 04:23:01.640]  Don't crack it.
[04:23:03.580 --> 04:23:06.140]  I don't have the form 1 for 1206.
[04:23:06.520 --> 04:23:08.600]  He doesn't have a form 1 for 1206.
[04:23:08.620 --> 04:23:09.300]  Did you send that one?
[04:23:09.420 --> 04:23:14.400]  It wasn't on the... it wasn't on my form
when I was looking at it.
[04:23:14.400 --> 04:23:19.100]  I didn't see... I didn't see a thing.
[04:23:19.240 --> 04:23:21.600]  But I have... right here is the budget for
it.
[04:23:21.740 --> 04:23:22.200]  Yeah, I know.
[04:23:22.320 --> 04:23:22.780]  A little of that.
[04:23:24.840 --> 04:23:25.860]  I have it.
[04:23:26.200 --> 04:23:27.100]  You up here, dude.
[04:23:27.820 --> 04:23:28.880]  You got the wrong children.
[04:23:29.000 --> 04:23:30.940]  It won't be after that.
[04:23:31.620 --> 04:23:32.920]  Don't pick me now.
[04:23:34.960 --> 04:23:37.300]  The number 6 is on there.
[04:23:37.480 --> 04:23:38.460]  Turn that out.
[04:23:38.480 --> 04:23:38.740]  I'll be back.
[04:23:38.780 --> 04:23:39.880]  And it's all supplies.
[04:23:40.080 --> 04:23:40.760]  Everything on it.
[04:23:40.760 --> 04:23:43.100]  ...for supplies to leave the office.
[04:23:45.480 --> 04:23:46.980]  Instead of using our...
[04:23:49.280 --> 04:23:50.380]  ...easier to track.
[04:23:53.620 --> 04:23:54.240]  Yeah.
[04:24:00.980 --> 04:24:01.600]  Yes.
[04:24:02.420 --> 04:24:04.600]  That was hard on him because he has no
voice.
[04:24:26.400 --> 04:24:27.880]  He got a free pass to heaven.
[04:24:30.920 --> 04:24:31.700]  Ushered in the gate.
[04:24:37.580 --> 04:24:41.240]  Once the chain snapped out, that truth
could have fell anywhere in that trailer,
[04:24:41.360 --> 04:24:42.860]  but it was right exactly where he was at.
[04:24:55.260 --> 04:25:01.780]  I think I might have asked if I had to do
what I had to do with those since there is
[04:25:01.780 --> 04:25:02.920]  no money that comes in.
[04:25:03.920 --> 04:25:06.040]  It's just a little time for the baby.
[04:25:06.540 --> 04:25:07.600]  It's not that one.
[04:25:07.620 --> 04:25:08.280]  It's the little girl.
[04:25:08.520 --> 04:25:09.660]  It's the little baby.
[04:25:10.380 --> 04:25:12.080]  It's probably the baby Sid.
[04:25:12.120 --> 04:25:13.720]  It's probably the three kids.
[04:25:14.380 --> 04:25:17.160]  It's just an 18-year-old boy killing the
rat.
[04:25:18.920 --> 04:25:19.560]  It's alright.
[04:25:19.920 --> 04:25:20.480]  No, it's not.
[04:25:20.700 --> 04:25:23.660]  I don't mind arguing with them.
[04:25:23.820 --> 04:25:24.800]  The rest of them can be easy.
[04:25:28.020 --> 04:25:29.500]  It's a kind of business, you know.
[04:25:30.880 --> 04:25:32.340]  This is your baby.
[04:25:32.340 --> 04:25:34.240]  Oh, I know, I know.
[04:25:48.600 --> 04:25:50.480]  Okay, anybody else have anything else?
[04:25:51.120 --> 04:25:52.160]  I have a question.
[04:25:52.340 --> 04:25:52.580]  Okay.
[04:25:53.660 --> 04:25:59.760]  So, I've seen on here where some changes
were made, and after I did my figures,
[04:25:59.760 --> 04:26:06.960]  It's been two years, which was basically
it was the FICA that was lower than what I
[04:26:06.960 --> 04:26:07.140]  had.
[04:26:07.340 --> 04:26:09.360]  I never know what to put in there,
so I just put a number.
[04:26:09.620 --> 04:26:11.260]  If I don't spend it, it carries over.
[04:26:11.720 --> 04:26:19.300]  But when I've done that adding,
I'm $2400 short on my budget because the
[04:26:19.300 --> 04:26:23.040]  changes that were made here, I have to in
turn go back and change my spreadsheet and
[04:26:23.040 --> 04:26:27.060]  resubmit it to the state because it was
submitted June 1st.
[04:26:31.850 --> 04:26:36.730]  And I don't mind doing that, but if I put
these numbers in, I'm going to be $2400
[04:26:36.730 --> 04:26:37.250]  short.
[04:26:38.550 --> 04:26:45.630]  I understand that you're going to be
short, but it just means that they
[04:26:45.630 --> 04:26:46.210]  didn't...
[04:26:47.250 --> 04:26:48.170]  It's not appropriate.
[04:26:48.330 --> 04:26:51.570]  I can't turn it into the state without it
being appropriated.
[04:26:52.050 --> 04:26:53.830]  How are you going to appropriate something
you don't know?
[04:26:54.590 --> 04:26:56.050]  I do it every year.
[04:26:56.190 --> 04:26:57.030]  Well, we can't do that.
[04:26:57.030 --> 04:26:58.410]  No, we can't.
[04:26:58.430 --> 04:26:59.330]  So we do too.
[04:27:00.470 --> 04:27:07.190]  So we advertise our budget before it's
finalized, but we advertise high.
[04:27:07.310 --> 04:27:08.870]  So we have to submit to the state too.
[04:27:09.510 --> 04:27:10.690]  But then we come back.
[04:27:11.370 --> 04:27:14.670]  But the reason why you're short is because
they didn't approve everything that you'd
[04:27:14.670 --> 04:27:15.190]  asked for.
[04:27:15.870 --> 04:27:16.350]  No.
[04:27:16.830 --> 04:27:17.250]  No?
[04:27:17.450 --> 04:27:17.930]  No.
[04:27:18.850 --> 04:27:20.190]  No, she asked for it.
[04:27:20.770 --> 04:27:22.090]  This is the state funds.
[04:27:22.330 --> 04:27:23.870]  This is the HFI funds.
[04:27:23.970 --> 04:27:26.310]  This is not what the county does.
[04:27:26.310 --> 04:27:34.670]  I had $8,000 budgeted here on mine and it
was changed to $2,500.
[04:27:34.930 --> 04:27:35.610]  That could be right.
[04:27:35.730 --> 04:27:36.130]  I don't know.
[04:27:36.170 --> 04:27:37.190]  I don't know what FICA is.
[04:27:37.190 --> 04:27:38.590]  I don't know what the cost is of that.
[04:27:38.690 --> 04:27:39.230]  We just pay it.
[04:27:39.430 --> 04:27:42.070]  Okay, the FICA is based on your wages.
[04:27:42.170 --> 04:27:47.490]  So if they changed your wages of what you
proposed, that's why that figure lowers.
[04:27:47.730 --> 04:27:53.490]  Okay, but they went $500 more than what I
put in for.
[04:27:53.570 --> 04:27:57.370]  I put in for $5,000 ...and they changed it
to $5,500.
[04:27:57.770 --> 04:27:59.310]  Well, they've done that because of that
raise.
[04:27:59.330 --> 04:28:00.170]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[04:28:01.090 --> 04:28:01.750]  That's fine.
[04:28:01.930 --> 04:28:03.270]  All the changes are fine.
[04:28:05.470 --> 04:28:12.750]  Except I've got to put $2,400 in one of
those other pots to make my numbers come
[04:28:12.750 --> 04:28:12.930]  up right.
[04:28:12.950 --> 04:28:16.710]  The reason that's like that, she asked for
that, the only way it was, they took that
[04:28:16.710 --> 04:28:18.850]  and the 1.5% was the reason that's what it
was.
[04:28:18.850 --> 04:28:21.750]  We can just take that back down to $5,000.
[04:28:21.870 --> 04:28:23.510]  You see what he's talking about?
[04:28:25.070 --> 04:28:32.590]  Well, then I still have to find... because
the $8,000 was changed to $2,500,
[04:28:32.850 --> 04:28:40.470]  the money, if you subtract that and it's
the $5,447, I have to put that amount
[04:28:40.470 --> 04:28:40.830]  somewhere.
[04:28:42.670 --> 04:28:45.610]  It has to go on one of my lines or the
state's line.
[04:28:45.730 --> 04:28:47.030]  Or you have to change yours to the state.
[04:28:47.030 --> 04:28:48.570]  I have to change mine to the state.
[04:28:48.570 --> 04:28:50.810]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[04:28:50.930 --> 04:28:54.450]  We're not... we don't know what that
number is going to be, and neither do you.
[04:28:55.350 --> 04:28:58.670]  That's... I always... I put 8,000,
period.
[04:28:58.950 --> 04:28:59.390]  I get it.
[04:28:59.650 --> 04:29:01.290]  Because I don't know what it's going to
be.
[04:29:01.290 --> 04:29:01.710]  Well, we do.
[04:29:01.790 --> 04:29:06.030]  We got to get it tightened up,
so we don't... once we know, like next
[04:29:06.030 --> 04:29:06.790]  year, we'll know.
[04:29:07.270 --> 04:29:08.850]  Then we'll know... then you'll know.
[04:29:08.950 --> 04:29:10.070]  What was it the year before?
[04:29:10.430 --> 04:29:10.950]  I don't know.
[04:29:11.390 --> 04:29:12.650]  Is that... or 25?
[04:29:12.790 --> 04:29:13.490]  It was 90.
[04:29:14.070 --> 04:29:14.470]  Micah.
[04:29:15.150 --> 04:29:15.730]  Micah's here.
[04:29:15.970 --> 04:29:17.410]  So she put $8,000.
[04:29:17.570 --> 04:29:18.390]  Spending in authority.
[04:29:18.990 --> 04:29:19.770]  I get it.
[04:29:19.770 --> 04:29:20.910]  I'm saying come back to here.
[04:29:21.150 --> 04:29:21.970]  I'm going across.
[04:29:22.270 --> 04:29:23.330]  This would be $25,000.
[04:29:23.330 --> 04:29:23.890]  $26,000.
[04:29:23.950 --> 04:29:25.710]  She's only spent $1,100 out of the $8,000.
[04:29:25.830 --> 04:29:26.810]  We're not going to leave $8,000.
[04:29:27.570 --> 04:29:28.310]  That's what I saw.
[04:29:28.350 --> 04:29:28.950]  I only spent $1,100.
[04:29:29.990 --> 04:29:32.390]  And that's six months, so you double it.
[04:29:32.530 --> 04:29:40.130]  So, you guys, I mean, do I need to redo my
Form 1 and put the excess money in one of
[04:29:40.130 --> 04:29:41.350]  these funds down here?
[04:29:41.350 --> 04:29:45.130]  Because I can put it in that one,
and it leaves it open, and then if I
[04:29:45.130 --> 04:29:50.590]  needed to spend it, I would have to ask
the state before, for programming,
[04:29:50.870 --> 04:29:52.490]  hey, can I spend it on this?
[04:29:52.550 --> 04:29:55.610]  They have to tell me if I'm in compliance
or not before I can spend any money
[04:29:55.610 --> 04:29:55.950]  anyway.
[04:30:00.040 --> 04:30:04.580]  If they see something in my budget that's
not in compliance with our rules,
[04:30:04.820 --> 04:30:05.960]  they say, nope, you can't do that.
[04:30:10.590 --> 04:30:13.010]  So you're asking about this $575,000?
[04:30:13.630 --> 04:30:14.950]  What are you asking about?
[04:30:15.110 --> 04:30:16.910]  She's asking about the $8,000.
[04:30:16.930 --> 04:30:22.210]  We cut it down to $2,500 because that's
all she needs.
[04:30:22.530 --> 04:30:22.770]  Correct.
[04:30:22.950 --> 04:30:26.370]  But she put in for $8,000 with the state
already.
[04:30:26.890 --> 04:30:31.510]  So in order to change that, she would have
to go back and redo her paperwork to match
[04:30:31.510 --> 04:30:32.750]  that $2,500.
[04:30:33.310 --> 04:30:33.670]  Yeah.
[04:30:33.670 --> 04:30:37.030]  So I'm $2,400 short in my budget.
[04:30:53.530 --> 04:30:58.550]  Peggy, why was the $25,000 expenditure
$4,500 and so far this year it's only
[04:30:58.550 --> 04:30:58.990]  $1,100.
[04:30:59.270 --> 04:31:00.030]  It's only a fourth.
[04:31:00.530 --> 04:31:02.470]  Well, she don't know what it's going to
be.
[04:31:02.470 --> 04:31:03.750]  I do know why it went down.
[04:31:03.770 --> 04:31:04.250]  Yeah, that much.
[04:31:04.250 --> 04:31:07.770]  Because we lowered... our budget got cut.
[04:31:08.130 --> 04:31:12.470]  At one point we had $650,000 that came in.
[04:31:12.710 --> 04:31:16.470]  Well, the following year, well you're not
getting that much, you're getting
[04:31:16.470 --> 04:31:17.530]  $163,000.
[04:31:18.490 --> 04:31:22.030]  So that's why we just, we cut and...
[04:31:23.230 --> 04:31:23.750]  Okay.
[04:31:23.750 --> 04:31:28.990]  The easiest, the easiest fix to that is
you have to redo that pegboard.
[04:31:29.730 --> 04:31:30.690]  That's what I'm saying.
[04:31:30.890 --> 04:31:31.930]  Yeah, to match our budget.
[04:31:31.930 --> 04:31:32.570]  I know it's a pain.
[04:31:33.030 --> 04:31:33.770]  That's the easiest.
[04:31:34.350 --> 04:31:35.470]  To match your budget?
[04:31:35.670 --> 04:31:35.950]  Yes.
[04:31:35.970 --> 04:31:36.390]  Yeah.
[04:31:36.550 --> 04:31:36.950]  Okay.
[04:31:37.870 --> 04:31:40.530]  There's still $2,400 missing on your
paperwork.
[04:31:41.950 --> 04:31:42.970]  That's the part I want.
[04:31:43.050 --> 04:31:43.830]  Do you see what I'm saying?
[04:31:44.590 --> 04:31:45.370]  I don't either.
[04:31:45.630 --> 04:31:46.450]  No, I don't either.
[04:31:47.290 --> 04:31:47.710]  Okay.
[04:31:47.710 --> 04:31:48.610]  Let me see that.
[04:31:52.270 --> 04:31:53.710]  This is what I see.
[04:31:53.710 --> 04:31:54.150]  Okay.
[04:31:55.270 --> 04:31:58.850]  And then, we change text.
[04:31:59.130 --> 04:32:00.910]  This one is $8,025.
[04:32:01.930 --> 04:32:06.670]  And you put $5,065.75 in that.
[04:32:07.450 --> 04:32:10.930]  But there's $5,400 that you lowered it.
[04:32:11.550 --> 04:32:12.270]  Okay?
[04:32:12.730 --> 04:32:19.870]  And after I did all my calculations,
even with what you added, Me, too.
[04:32:19.970 --> 04:32:20.490]  Me, too.
[04:32:20.610 --> 04:32:21.650]  You're good at that.
[04:32:22.050 --> 04:32:23.730]  You're good at that.
[04:32:25.350 --> 04:32:26.470]  The VR.
[04:32:26.810 --> 04:32:28.190]  I don't want to do that.
[04:32:28.310 --> 04:32:29.230]  This is what I said.
[04:32:29.330 --> 04:32:30.790]  You're a person.
[04:32:32.370 --> 04:32:33.890]  Not health department.
[04:32:34.170 --> 04:32:35.830]  You can't invite me.
[04:32:36.170 --> 04:32:36.730]  1161.
[04:32:39.190 --> 04:32:40.610]  You're really involved.
[04:32:40.710 --> 04:32:41.670]  So you changed me.
[04:32:41.810 --> 04:32:42.990]  What am I supposed to say?
[04:32:42.990 --> 04:32:45.910]  You changed my $5,400.
[04:33:02.010 --> 04:33:02.930]  I'm going to head that way.
[04:33:03.030 --> 04:33:03.370]  I'll be back.
[04:33:03.430 --> 04:33:04.390]  Sir, yeah, please.
[04:33:05.590 --> 04:33:06.770]  Oh, 1245.
[04:33:06.990 --> 04:33:07.490]  We've got time.
[04:33:07.490 --> 04:33:08.250]  Just keep them talking.
[04:33:09.090 --> 04:33:10.470]  We'll get the 2400 figured out.
[04:33:11.030 --> 04:33:12.110]  No, we're still trying.
[04:33:19.190 --> 04:33:28.930]  I've been on this for three days,
trying to figure out how I'm going to
[04:33:28.930 --> 04:33:29.750]  explain it.
[04:33:31.310 --> 04:33:32.210]  It's not good.
[04:33:32.490 --> 04:33:33.150]  I'll be back.
[04:33:33.750 --> 04:33:35.570]  I'm trying to help the fire department.
[04:33:36.270 --> 04:33:37.710]  I feel sorry for you guys.
[04:33:37.710 --> 04:33:42.490]  Well, I'm just trying to understand,
so you submitted this to the state,
[04:33:42.650 --> 04:33:44.550]  the 163, the total amount.
[04:33:44.770 --> 04:33:45.630]  Yes, that's what they gave me.
[04:33:46.570 --> 04:33:48.190]  Yep, I got it right here.
[04:33:48.810 --> 04:33:49.250]  Okay.
[04:33:49.470 --> 04:33:50.410]  They gave it to you.
[04:33:50.890 --> 04:33:52.030]  They tell me.
[04:33:52.050 --> 04:33:52.450]  I know.
[04:33:53.270 --> 04:33:54.450]  Tell you what you're getting.
[04:33:54.650 --> 04:33:57.810]  They tell me what I'm getting and then I
have to submit a budget.
[04:33:59.810 --> 04:34:01.250]  Where you're spending it at.
[04:34:01.290 --> 04:34:03.730]  So you really can't change that.
[04:34:03.930 --> 04:34:07.270]  You can't change, she's saying you can't
change the total amount.
[04:34:07.270 --> 04:34:08.670]  You can't change the total amount.
[04:34:08.890 --> 04:34:09.750]  You can change where...
[04:34:09.750 --> 04:34:10.730]  Inside the amount.
[04:34:10.850 --> 04:34:11.390]  You can't change the total amount.
[04:34:11.390 --> 04:34:13.170]  Well, I guess it wouldn't make any
difference to us then.
[04:34:13.730 --> 04:34:15.070]  Well, it depends if...
[04:34:15.070 --> 04:34:18.670]  Or does it affect us the less?
[04:34:19.330 --> 04:34:19.810]  Nowhere.
[04:34:21.150 --> 04:34:22.950]  No, because it's HFI funds.
[04:34:23.250 --> 04:34:24.990]  Well, but it's still overall budget.
[04:34:25.270 --> 04:34:25.490]  Right.
[04:34:25.850 --> 04:34:26.210]  Yeah.
[04:34:26.850 --> 04:34:27.910]  But that's what I'm saying.
[04:34:28.010 --> 04:34:30.750]  Yeah, we would be more concerned about the
1159 fund.
[04:34:31.010 --> 04:34:31.290]  Yeah.
[04:34:33.510 --> 04:34:41.770]  Now, if you can come away to track 24,
25, 26, and 27, because I have to do one
[04:34:41.770 --> 04:34:42.710]  of these for each year.
[04:34:42.870 --> 04:34:47.210]  If I don't, if I have money left over,
caregiver money, I have to keep my money
[04:34:47.210 --> 04:34:50.850]  in separate years for the state.
[04:34:52.150 --> 04:34:57.470]  And it all goes in one account in here,
and I'm having to separate the kids.
[04:34:57.470 --> 04:34:59.150]  I see what you're doing.
[04:35:00.730 --> 04:35:01.970]  I have anxiety.
[04:35:02.450 --> 04:35:03.210]  You know why.
[04:35:05.730 --> 04:35:06.770]  So what's the thing?
[04:35:06.770 --> 04:35:07.870]  I understand what she's saying.
[04:35:08.530 --> 04:35:11.150]  Are you good that it goes back to 8?
[04:35:11.310 --> 04:35:12.010]  Yeah, you have to.
[04:35:12.510 --> 04:35:13.890]  I think you have to do that.
[04:35:14.830 --> 04:35:16.130]  It'll just carry over.
[04:35:16.330 --> 04:35:17.770]  Yeah, if you don't spin it.
[04:35:18.090 --> 04:35:21.230]  At first I wouldn't understand what you're
saying, but now I get it.
[04:35:21.290 --> 04:35:21.790]  Now you get it?
[04:35:22.070 --> 04:35:22.610]  Thank you.
[04:35:22.690 --> 04:35:24.130]  So she didn't care where we put it.
[04:35:24.210 --> 04:35:25.250]  Yeah, I don't care where we put it.
[04:35:26.850 --> 04:35:27.750]  Does that make sense?
[04:35:28.010 --> 04:35:28.750]  Does it go back to 8 then?
[04:35:29.250 --> 04:35:30.850]  No, but I understand what she's saying.
[04:35:31.190 --> 04:35:32.830]  Does the process make sense to me?
[04:35:32.890 --> 04:35:33.030]  No.
[04:35:33.150 --> 04:35:33.850]  It doesn't make sense to me.
[04:35:33.850 --> 04:35:34.590]  I get what she's saying.
[04:35:34.690 --> 04:35:35.410]  I get what she's saying.
[04:35:35.490 --> 04:35:36.570]  So you almost got it there.
[04:35:36.750 --> 04:35:38.930]  Because for her, that would be a
nightmare.
[04:35:39.290 --> 04:35:39.610]  Okay.
[04:35:40.130 --> 04:35:41.330]  So we're just going back to 8?
[04:35:41.830 --> 04:35:42.150]  Yeah.
[04:35:42.390 --> 04:35:42.710]  Okay.
[04:35:43.890 --> 04:35:44.650]  Now I get it.
[04:35:46.290 --> 04:35:47.790]  That's why you have these meetings.
[04:35:48.030 --> 04:35:49.190]  Because there's no way...
[04:35:49.910 --> 04:35:51.050]  There's no way we would know each other.
[04:35:51.050 --> 04:35:51.630]  I know that.
[04:35:51.690 --> 04:35:52.990]  We do a lot of stuff like that.
[04:35:52.990 --> 04:35:58.590]  Do you have an idea of how I can track
multiple years that go into one account?
[04:35:59.630 --> 04:36:06.710]  Because pulling a ledger from the
auditor's office and having three,
[04:36:08.110 --> 04:36:12.410]  four years in one account, it's...
[04:36:12.410 --> 04:36:14.290]  I can do it individually per year.
[04:36:14.770 --> 04:36:16.330]  To break it down, yeah.
[04:36:16.630 --> 04:36:17.330]  Individually.
[04:36:18.050 --> 04:36:20.050]  But right now it's...
[04:36:20.050 --> 04:36:21.450]  It's carryover monies.
[04:36:21.470 --> 04:36:23.690]  It's carried over into 2026.
[04:36:24.130 --> 04:36:30.070]  So my 2026 budget for 1161 has 24,
25, and 26 money in it.
[04:36:30.190 --> 04:36:31.050]  Oh, gotcha.
[04:36:31.470 --> 04:36:36.890]  And in 27, it'll have 24, 25, 26,
and 27 money in it.
[04:36:36.990 --> 04:36:37.790]  Okay, that's just great.
[04:36:37.990 --> 04:36:41.890]  So we're just changing that 26,
25 to back to 8,000 on that line,
[04:36:41.890 --> 04:36:41.950]  correct?
[04:36:41.950 --> 04:36:47.670]  I take these, I submit them, I come down
here, and I give them the 80.
[04:36:47.670 --> 04:36:55.330]  And I try my best to compile what goes in
on these pages into those ones.
[04:36:56.750 --> 04:36:59.130]  You take those from the state.
[04:36:59.350 --> 04:36:59.830]  Yes.
[04:36:59.950 --> 04:37:02.790]  And then you tell the state where you're
spending that money.
[04:37:03.030 --> 04:37:06.670]  And then you submit that, give that back
to them so they can have fun with you.
[04:37:06.930 --> 04:37:09.650]  But 1161 was the grant fund, right?
[04:37:10.890 --> 04:37:13.930]  It's... they tell us not to call it a
grant because it's not a grant.
[04:37:20.910 --> 04:37:24.090]  So essentially, you're just going to
budget every year what they tell you until
[04:37:24.090 --> 04:37:24.750]  the money is gone.
[04:37:26.210 --> 04:37:28.450]  Because there's no money... is there money
coming in?
[04:37:28.730 --> 04:37:31.950]  No, it gets money every year until they
tell us they won't do it anymore.
[04:37:32.370 --> 04:37:34.710]  And then we'll be coming back and asking
money to operate.
[04:37:35.190 --> 04:37:36.450]  It's a lifetime grant?
[04:37:36.650 --> 04:37:37.010]  I don't...
[04:37:37.470 --> 04:37:38.510]  It's not a grant.
[04:37:38.630 --> 04:37:41.330]  It's an initiative.
[04:37:42.270 --> 04:37:44.010]  So I guess my question would be...
[04:37:44.010 --> 04:37:45.190]  We don't put in for the money.
[04:37:45.290 --> 04:37:46.490]  They tell us what we're getting.
[04:37:46.750 --> 04:37:47.870]  They just give you an allotment?
[04:37:47.870 --> 04:37:51.150]  And then, so what are the uses,
I guess?
[04:37:51.330 --> 04:37:53.650]  What are the guidelines of what you can
use that for?
[04:37:53.730 --> 04:37:56.350]  They gave us specific guidelines.
[04:37:57.790 --> 04:38:01.230]  Like, it's better for me to show you,
because it's all along here.
[04:38:01.450 --> 04:38:03.430]  Because I see, like, there are personal
services.
[04:38:04.310 --> 04:38:05.450]  Like, wages.
[04:38:05.870 --> 04:38:06.950]  Like a health officer.
[04:38:08.610 --> 04:38:09.210]  Right here.
[04:38:09.390 --> 04:38:09.790]  Or a coach.
[04:38:09.790 --> 04:38:16.850]  They tell us it has to... we have KPIs.
[04:38:18.090 --> 04:38:20.090]  Everything has to fit in a category.
[04:38:20.630 --> 04:38:30.470]  Most of it is clinical, and 60% of it is
clinical, 40% of it is environmental,
[04:38:30.830 --> 04:38:31.930]  regulatory.
[04:38:34.210 --> 04:38:40.150]  And it's, it's more for programs than
anything.
[04:38:40.610 --> 04:38:42.510]  Like we do a voucher program.
[04:38:43.130 --> 04:38:51.170]  It's programs if people, um, addiction
awareness, um, whatever programs we
[04:38:51.170 --> 04:38:56.550]  implement in the county, suicide
awareness, trying to put, do better for
[04:38:56.550 --> 04:38:56.930]  our county.
[04:38:57.070 --> 04:38:57.690]  Okay.
[04:38:57.790 --> 04:39:01.990]  If we can help other agencies,
um, buy things and...
[04:39:24.170 --> 04:39:28.970]  So are these, like this health officer,
the two I've highlighted, and that's
[04:39:28.970 --> 04:39:30.450]  $11.59, the health fund?
[04:39:31.110 --> 04:39:35.010]  1159 is our actual salaries from the
county.
[04:39:35.970 --> 04:39:43.350]  That is a raise per se for all the
additional work that this is causing.
[04:39:44.710 --> 04:39:47.070]  But is that health officer in 1161?
[04:39:47.130 --> 04:39:48.150]  Is that the same person?
[04:39:48.510 --> 04:39:48.550]  Yes.
[04:39:48.910 --> 04:39:53.370]  Is that $5,000 the cap of what you can pay
out of that fund?
[04:39:53.450 --> 04:39:53.550]  No.
[04:39:54.510 --> 04:39:58.350]  So that, before I make this
recommendation, I just want to make sure I
[04:39:58.350 --> 04:39:58.990]  have this straight.
[04:39:58.990 --> 04:40:05.730]  Because in my mind, if that FICA line that
we brought down from $8,000 to $2,500,
[04:40:07.170 --> 04:40:11.970]  right, you could, you could, could you,
I'm asking, could you move a portion of
[04:40:11.970 --> 04:40:12.670]  the salary there?
[04:40:13.250 --> 04:40:14.550]  It looks like you can.
[04:40:14.770 --> 04:40:15.390]  Let me...
[04:40:15.390 --> 04:40:16.430]  That's why I'm asking this.
[04:40:16.430 --> 04:40:20.110]  Let me, let me say, we thought about that
in the beginning.
[04:40:20.510 --> 04:40:23.590]  But the money is not guaranteed year to
year.
[04:40:23.590 --> 04:40:29.670]  If we did that, and in the end they take
it away, then we're going to be in trouble
[04:40:29.670 --> 04:40:32.530]  because we won't have the funds in our
regular...
[04:40:32.530 --> 04:40:35.310]  You wouldn't be in trouble because you'd
do just basically what?
[04:40:35.490 --> 04:40:36.010]  Probation.
[04:40:36.290 --> 04:40:42.390]  Well I'm saying, they already gave you the
$163,000 so you make your budget within
[04:40:42.390 --> 04:40:42.730]  that.
[04:40:43.670 --> 04:40:48.950]  I'm saying, if we're saying the FICA is a
little bit overshot this year,
[04:40:49.170 --> 04:40:52.610]  can we shift a portion of that salary this
year
[04:40:56.870 --> 04:40:58.310]  You see what I'm saying?
[04:41:01.090 --> 04:41:02.570]  Probation did the same thing.
[04:41:02.890 --> 04:41:07.030]  They came back to us, so now we're paying
that again.
[04:41:07.470 --> 04:41:08.630]  I see what you're saying.
[04:41:08.770 --> 04:41:11.950]  The only reason I'm asking, because I
don't know if you're the expert,
[04:41:12.050 --> 04:41:18.730]  the only reason I'm asking is because we
subsidize health with some property taxes.
[04:41:18.730 --> 04:41:24.650]  So any time we can alleviate health fund,
if we could move it somewhere else,
[04:41:24.690 --> 04:41:27.050]  you could lower the amount of property
taxes you put in there.
[04:41:27.310 --> 04:41:29.630]  In turn, that all goes back to the general
fund.
[04:41:30.390 --> 04:41:33.630]  But if she... I don't believe... she's the
expert.
[04:41:33.770 --> 04:41:34.070]  I don't know.
[04:41:34.910 --> 04:41:40.010]  They might could stay okay, but primarily
the money goes mainly primarily for
[04:41:40.010 --> 04:41:43.690]  programming in the community and health
services.
[04:41:44.010 --> 04:41:46.130]  But wouldn't that be help paying for
programs?
[04:41:46.130 --> 04:41:47.030]  It could.
[04:41:47.290 --> 04:41:48.470]  And I can ask.
[04:41:48.970 --> 04:41:50.850]  I have to ask the state.
[04:41:51.110 --> 04:41:51.990]  You have to ask them that?
[04:41:52.050 --> 04:41:53.090]  Why would you have to ask them that?
[04:41:53.390 --> 04:41:54.350]  Because they approve it.
[04:41:55.290 --> 04:42:00.790]  If I have to do the budget and then I have
to send it to them and they say,
[04:42:00.930 --> 04:42:02.850]  yes you can or no you can't.
[04:42:02.850 --> 04:42:03.750]  Can you find that for us?
[04:42:04.170 --> 04:42:07.370]  And it would just help us out for maybe a
year or so.
[04:42:08.810 --> 04:42:11.070]  Yeah, like I said, I was just asking the
question.
[04:42:12.090 --> 04:42:13.210]  How long are we talking?
[04:42:13.210 --> 04:42:21.050]  I mean, we may get more money next year,
and they're saying maybe in 2027 that our
[04:42:21.050 --> 04:42:21.930]  amounts will raise.
[04:42:23.270 --> 04:42:28.070]  Because when this first happened,
I wanted to move positions over,
[04:42:28.250 --> 04:42:30.710]  and then we were like, no, maybe we better
not.
[04:42:30.990 --> 04:42:35.330]  And it's a good thing we didn't,
because it was the following year they cut
[04:42:35.330 --> 04:42:35.610]  us.
[04:42:35.610 --> 04:42:43.030]  Well so, the health fund, the amount of
property taxes in that fund, we just
[04:42:43.030 --> 04:42:45.090]  subsidize what that fund needs.
[04:42:45.250 --> 04:42:48.810]  So when you request a budget in there,
we're assuming you need that budget.
[04:42:49.150 --> 04:42:52.650]  Whatever revenues you get in there,
we just subsidize the rest of the property
[04:42:52.650 --> 04:42:53.030]  taxes.
[04:42:53.210 --> 04:42:54.970]  So it's kind of a show game every year
anyways.
[04:42:55.390 --> 04:43:00.410]  So if they do, like these split positions,
if they allow you to shift more in there,
[04:43:00.410 --> 04:43:05.490]  We need less property taxes in health
fund, which is going to help out general
[04:43:05.490 --> 04:43:06.770]  fund that's hurting really bad.
[04:43:07.110 --> 04:43:10.830]  And we just have to understand that year
to year it might change.
[04:43:10.970 --> 04:43:12.530]  It might go up or it might go down.
[04:43:12.930 --> 04:43:16.470]  And we're just relying on her to give us
those numbers.
[04:43:16.550 --> 04:43:23.350]  But if you can, if you're able to move
health fund to local health fund at all,
[04:43:23.590 --> 04:43:25.290]  I mean that does help.
[04:43:25.290 --> 04:43:35.550]  And then again, this budget is just part
of what we have.
[04:43:35.690 --> 04:43:40.070]  Like I said, I'm going to have carryover
funds probably from .4, .5 and this year.
[04:43:42.170 --> 04:43:46.510]  And then after this budget, now I have to
sit down and figure out where all that's
[04:43:46.510 --> 04:43:47.050]  going to go.
[04:43:47.890 --> 04:43:50.470]  Well, that's kind of what led me to asking
that question.
[04:43:51.470 --> 04:43:55.130]  If, you know, you're setting this budget
every year, just because they send it to
[04:43:55.130 --> 04:44:00.090]  you, and like that fight line doesn't get
spent all the way, it carries forward,
[04:44:00.150 --> 04:44:03.610]  carries forward, it's like, well,
we're not going to carry forward a health
[04:44:03.610 --> 04:44:05.650]  officer's salary because we're going to
pay them.
[04:44:06.030 --> 04:44:08.030]  So it should be dollar for dollar.
[04:44:08.690 --> 04:44:10.610]  But that's just me.
[04:44:11.330 --> 04:44:17.890]  I will ask, and if they say yes,
I know right now I have like $40,000
[04:44:17.890 --> 04:44:23.910]  budgeted this year for the parks and rec
for programming where they're coming and
[04:44:23.910 --> 04:44:24.310]  got that.
[04:44:24.750 --> 04:44:28.790]  Well, what they want to do does not align
with what I'm allowed to do.
[04:44:28.950 --> 04:44:33.630]  So, because they want me to sponsor the
ball fields and then charge people.
[04:44:33.690 --> 04:44:35.630]  Well, if we're sponsoring them,
you can't charge anybody.
[04:44:36.410 --> 04:44:37.690]  That's just the way it goes.
[04:44:37.870 --> 04:44:40.050]  Or if you do charge, it comes back to us.
[04:44:40.050 --> 04:44:40.690]  Back into that.
[04:44:40.770 --> 04:44:41.250]  Yes.
[04:44:41.490 --> 04:44:47.970]  So that's 40,000 that I can maybe... Let
us know.
[04:44:48.110 --> 04:44:58.250]  Let me go and... I should have brought my
big book, but yeah, I'll look and I'm...
[04:44:58.250 --> 04:45:00.590]  How much are we talking?
[04:45:01.970 --> 04:45:07.850]  Just the health officer or part of it or
all of it or...
[04:45:07.850 --> 04:45:12.150]  It would be easier, and I just keep using
the FICA line just because we just
[04:45:12.150 --> 04:45:18.310]  discussed it, but that $5,400,
if that's all it was, if that was all the
[04:45:18.310 --> 04:45:22.850]  excess for this year, I would just pull
the $5,400 from one of them.
[04:45:22.910 --> 04:45:24.350]  I wouldn't try to divvy it up.
[04:45:24.590 --> 04:45:26.770]  Because $19,000 is the budget.
[04:45:26.770 --> 04:45:35.450]  What about our... I mean, I could do,
we could do, well we got the health
[04:45:35.450 --> 04:45:40.230]  officers, a lower one, and then our
part-time nurse, which is a lower,
[04:45:40.330 --> 04:45:46.670]  and I technically, y'all put a raise in
for her, but she makes, per hour,
[04:45:46.930 --> 04:45:51.070]  she makes more than our public health
nurse makes per hour, just about.
[04:45:52.130 --> 04:45:54.310]  We just went across the border,
that's why.
[04:45:54.690 --> 04:45:55.090]  Huh?
[04:45:55.090 --> 04:45:56.330]  We just went across the board.
[04:45:56.710 --> 04:45:57.270]  That's why.
[04:45:58.650 --> 04:46:00.250]  But you don't have to pay that.
[04:46:00.770 --> 04:46:02.650]  She doesn't have to pay that.
[04:46:03.370 --> 04:46:05.250]  No, but you don't have to pay that.
[04:46:05.610 --> 04:46:06.750]  You can pay less.
[04:46:07.550 --> 04:46:09.230]  This is what we appropriate up to that.
[04:46:09.470 --> 04:46:10.530]  Yeah, up to that point.
[04:46:10.730 --> 04:46:12.290]  So you can break it down to what you
think.
[04:46:14.930 --> 04:46:16.270]  Break it down to what she'll accept.
[04:46:18.130 --> 04:46:20.050]  It's just like if you hire a new person.
[04:46:20.190 --> 04:46:22.810]  We've already ever given that one a raise.
[04:46:32.250 --> 04:46:37.350]  I'll look and I'll give you a number and
you tell me where you want to take it
[04:46:37.350 --> 04:46:37.550]  from.
[04:46:37.630 --> 04:46:38.170]  How about that?
[04:46:38.310 --> 04:46:39.190]  Because I don't care.
[04:46:39.330 --> 04:46:40.250]  I can put it in.
[04:46:40.530 --> 04:46:42.270]  Yeah, and I'm pretty indifferent too.
[04:46:43.290 --> 04:46:50.050]  Whatever that excess amount is,
if it's under $19,636, I'm just going to
[04:46:50.050 --> 04:46:51.430]  try to take it from along the line.
[04:46:51.430 --> 04:46:56.790]  Just to keep things simple, but we'll
leave that up to you.
[04:46:59.470 --> 04:47:00.610]  Thank you, Peggy.
[04:47:00.610 --> 04:47:01.190]  Sounds good.
[04:47:01.810 --> 04:47:03.170]  I'm game if you're game.
[04:47:03.470 --> 04:47:04.130]  Thank you, Peggy.
[04:47:05.270 --> 04:47:05.890]  Thank you.
[04:47:06.670 --> 04:47:07.550]  Circuit Court.
[04:47:07.730 --> 04:47:08.170]  Circuit Court.
[04:47:09.210 --> 04:47:10.550]  What number is Circuit Court?
[04:47:11.610 --> 04:47:14.510]  It is... Circuit Court is 17.
[04:47:15.590 --> 04:47:16.230]  Thank you.
[04:47:18.330 --> 04:47:19.370]  Circuit Court, come.
[04:47:25.670 --> 04:47:27.370]  I can't even not do it anyway.
[04:47:27.470 --> 04:47:28.610]  I just don't tell them what I'm talking
about.
[04:47:29.410 --> 04:47:29.910]  I'm in a coma.
[04:47:33.760 --> 04:47:35.060]  That puts me in a coma.
[04:47:35.180 --> 04:47:36.440]  I have to go to sleep.
[04:47:38.940 --> 04:47:39.740]  Circuit Court.
[04:47:39.840 --> 04:47:41.640]  Did he just say something else about
Circuit Court?
[04:47:44.120 --> 04:47:44.660]  Did who?
[04:47:52.220 --> 04:47:54.600]  That would be Ella.
[04:48:07.000 --> 04:48:10.300]  What did I do?
[04:48:10.600 --> 04:48:11.340]  The pizza.
[04:48:11.480 --> 04:48:12.380]  I was like, what happened to the lid?
[04:48:12.380 --> 04:48:14.800]  Oh, I thought I just used the other half
of the lid.
[04:48:14.860 --> 04:48:15.480]  You tore off, Dave.
[04:48:16.040 --> 04:48:17.140]  Him and Tina used it.
[04:48:18.960 --> 04:48:19.320]  Oh.
[04:48:19.320 --> 04:48:20.000]  There we go.
[04:48:21.820 --> 04:48:23.280]  I threw the other one in the trash.
[04:48:24.300 --> 04:48:25.100]  They probably got it.
[04:48:25.400 --> 04:48:26.700]  I bet the, uh...
[04:48:27.500 --> 04:48:28.860]  Oh, she's still gone.
[04:48:29.460 --> 04:48:31.940]  One of these guys has got a container to
go.
[04:48:32.020 --> 04:48:32.640]  You know that.
[04:48:32.740 --> 04:48:33.840]  They all bring her lunch and everything.
[04:48:35.640 --> 04:48:36.360]  I can't.
[04:48:36.540 --> 04:48:37.620]  Somebody else can take it.
[04:48:37.620 --> 04:48:38.080]  I don't...
[04:48:41.880 --> 04:48:42.240]  Oh!
[04:48:42.240 --> 04:48:43.140]  Why did I do that?
[04:48:48.190 --> 04:48:48.790]  Ah, there.
[04:48:48.950 --> 04:48:49.650]  Oh, there she is.
[04:48:49.710 --> 04:48:50.090]  There she is.
[04:48:52.870 --> 04:48:53.770]  There she is.
[04:48:55.850 --> 04:48:56.510]  There she is.
[04:48:56.510 --> 04:48:57.010]  There's Ellie.
[04:48:57.770 --> 04:48:59.590]  Hi, Kevin from the Sunny Room.
[04:48:59.730 --> 04:49:00.910]  I know you can't see.
[04:49:01.090 --> 04:49:02.330]  Why is it you can't see?
[04:49:02.470 --> 04:49:04.670]  I came in a while ago to look at these
figures from outside.
[04:49:04.830 --> 04:49:05.770]  I can't even see squat.
[04:49:06.070 --> 04:49:07.010]  I was like, oh my gosh.
[04:49:07.370 --> 04:49:08.310]  It's just a sign of age.
[04:49:08.950 --> 04:49:09.990]  We're ready for you.
[04:49:09.990 --> 04:49:10.490]  Okay.
[04:49:12.930 --> 04:49:15.910]  Alright, do you have specific questions?
[04:49:19.950 --> 04:49:29.950]  Really the only place where I asked for an
increase was my staff and the Pauper
[04:49:29.950 --> 04:49:39.730]  attorneys, which I think the Pauper
attorneys looked like they got a greater
[04:49:39.730 --> 04:49:42.110]  increase just because the numbers were
lower.
[04:49:42.130 --> 04:49:49.630]  They did a bit of an increase and the
staff got about $1,000 a year.
[04:49:50.490 --> 04:49:52.210]  So what percentage is that?
[04:49:54.550 --> 04:49:58.330]  We raised more than 1.5% plus $500.
[04:49:59.110 --> 04:50:00.470]  And I do have a question.
[04:50:00.650 --> 04:50:02.290]  I think she's showing 7% requested.
[04:50:02.290 --> 04:50:04.630]  Yeah, I requested a 7% of supports.
[04:50:04.730 --> 04:50:07.390]  You always go ask high.
[04:50:07.670 --> 04:50:07.930]  Sure.
[04:50:12.750 --> 04:50:15.590]  So, outside that, I do have a question for
you real quick.
[04:50:16.390 --> 04:50:22.970]  So, on the Pauper Attorneys, it looks like
you requested 441.
[04:50:23.710 --> 04:50:29.410]  Now, is that 441, if I remember,
is that set by the state, that number?
[04:50:31.850 --> 04:50:36.510]  It's not exactly set by the state,
but we have to make sure we're paying our
[04:50:36.510 --> 04:50:37.310]  Pauper first.
[04:50:59.640 --> 04:51:01.440]  Yeah, it makes sense.
[04:51:01.600 --> 04:51:04.280]  So I've got a question then, back to
probation.
[04:51:05.320 --> 04:51:08.580]  They had a line in there for popular
attorneys and they said that wasn't
[04:51:08.580 --> 04:51:08.880]  theirs.
[04:51:09.300 --> 04:51:15.320]  So if you take that number and you put it
with this number, that would be $541,000.
[04:51:18.920 --> 04:51:20.620]  Yeah, and it wasn't supposed to be there.
[04:51:20.620 --> 04:51:25.140]  I don't know what I'm trying to... and so
what I'm trying to figure out... let me
[04:51:25.140 --> 04:51:25.680]  get the probation.
[04:51:26.020 --> 04:51:28.520]  Move that back to here and bring this one
down to the match.
[04:51:29.800 --> 04:51:30.700]  That's what I'm saying.
[04:51:30.840 --> 04:51:31.680]  Yeah, that's what we need to do.
[04:51:31.820 --> 04:51:32.020]  Right.
[04:51:32.200 --> 04:51:33.260]  So we get the probation.
[04:51:33.560 --> 04:51:34.300]  Where is the probation?
[04:51:34.460 --> 04:51:35.400]  18 and 19.
[04:51:37.820 --> 04:51:38.720]  18... oh, where is it?
[04:51:38.780 --> 04:51:39.460]  18 and 19.
[04:51:41.540 --> 04:51:42.500]  It's right at the bottom.
[04:51:42.980 --> 04:51:43.840]  49 and 44.
[04:51:45.020 --> 04:51:49.940]  They had $100,000 in there in fund 49 and
44, like he just said.
[04:51:51.200 --> 04:51:53.000]  And he said that shouldn't be in there.
[04:51:53.100 --> 04:52:03.270]  So, what I'm asking, so we just eliminate
that totally out of his budget.
[04:52:07.490 --> 04:52:08.810]  What fund are we looking at?
[04:52:10.670 --> 04:52:11.470]  Fund 4944.
[04:52:12.910 --> 04:52:13.750]  On the probation.
[04:52:13.970 --> 04:52:14.370]  Probation.
[04:52:16.010 --> 04:52:17.870]  Remember he said he didn't know why it was
there then.
[04:52:18.010 --> 04:52:19.170]  He thought it should be in the court.
[04:52:19.270 --> 04:52:21.610]  That was under the miscellaneous personal
services.
[04:52:44.270 --> 04:52:49.890]  I mean, I don't really want to speak for
them.
[04:52:49.890 --> 04:53:00.110]  I mean, it's an umbrella, I guess,
of our court, but I do not know why that
[04:53:00.110 --> 04:53:01.530]  would be in there for them.
[04:53:03.190 --> 04:53:04.030]  Oh, we didn't.
[04:53:04.330 --> 04:53:06.470]  But you said it was $120,000?
[04:53:06.610 --> 04:53:06.950]  $100,000.
[04:53:07.170 --> 04:53:07.730]  It was $100,000.
[04:53:07.810 --> 04:53:08.950]  Well, they proposed $100,000.
[04:53:10.150 --> 04:53:13.290]  Yeah, it was under, last year we had it
under public defender services,
[04:53:13.370 --> 04:53:14.690]  is what it was called.
[04:53:15.050 --> 04:53:16.590]  Did we pay out of it last year?
[04:53:16.590 --> 04:53:19.410]  We had paid $10,000 mid-year.
[04:53:19.870 --> 04:53:21.030]  What's that number?
[04:53:21.390 --> 04:53:22.310]  $157,000?
[04:53:22.330 --> 04:53:23.250]  That's the total budget.
[04:53:23.350 --> 04:53:23.750]  I was...
[04:53:24.690 --> 04:53:27.030]  So, not knowing the uses and what...
[04:53:27.530 --> 04:53:29.350]  Where's the public defender's evidence
come from?
[04:53:31.250 --> 04:53:31.810]  County?
[04:53:31.850 --> 04:53:32.290]  County.
[04:53:32.390 --> 04:53:32.950]  General.
[04:53:33.370 --> 04:53:34.290]  Well, wait.
[04:53:34.430 --> 04:53:34.990]  Revenue?
[04:53:35.450 --> 04:53:36.490]  Oh, the rev...
[04:53:37.490 --> 04:53:39.970]  It doesn't make any money.
[04:53:40.230 --> 04:53:43.570]  It's got $1,029,000 of cash.
[04:53:43.770 --> 04:53:44.030]  That
[04:53:50.100 --> 04:53:51.440]  don't make any sense to me.
[04:53:56.660 --> 04:53:58.740]  Well that means that funds growing.
[04:53:59.040 --> 04:54:00.140]  You're not paying out.
[04:54:00.260 --> 04:54:01.320]  You're not paying it all out.
[04:54:01.720 --> 04:54:02.860]  But it shows you are.
[04:54:04.480 --> 04:54:10.820]  Well so far this year you paid out
$172,000 out of a $420,000 budget.
[04:54:12.680 --> 04:54:16.480]  That 49-44, I've got a list I keep track
of every July 31st.
[04:54:16.800 --> 04:54:19.220]  It is just steadily growing every year.
[04:54:19.220 --> 04:54:24.920]  So that means you're not... So that's
not... That shouldn't be growing at all.
[04:54:27.860 --> 04:54:29.740]  I'm trying to say that it shouldn't be
growing at all.
[04:54:32.000 --> 04:54:35.380]  That fund should go back, when it's done
at the end of the year, that fund should
[04:54:35.380 --> 04:54:36.500]  go back into the general fund.
[04:54:36.580 --> 04:54:37.360]  That's where it's coming from.
[04:54:38.320 --> 04:54:39.780]  And it looks like it's not.
[04:54:41.060 --> 04:54:43.060]  That, in my guess, would be the case.
[04:54:43.120 --> 04:54:45.240]  Anything that's left just hasn't gone...
[04:54:45.240 --> 04:54:45.860]  It goes back.
[04:54:46.600 --> 04:54:48.400]  So that money needs to go back.
[04:54:50.820 --> 04:54:55.580]  And then you re-appropriate that $441,000
and you take that $100,000 out of
[04:54:55.580 --> 04:54:55.920]  probation.
[04:55:03.410 --> 04:55:06.290]  That's a saving to hold this little chunk
of money.
[04:55:08.260 --> 04:55:11.760]  I just need to make sure I have...
[04:55:11.760 --> 04:55:16.320]  I mean, because that's, the POPR
attorneys, that's really just to build
[04:55:16.320 --> 04:55:23.560]  their salaries, because within that other
4944 line item, there are other things.
[04:55:23.920 --> 04:55:30.980]  So, I mean, we have line items for the
other things we need under the...
[04:55:30.980 --> 04:55:33.300]  Well, it's a different, but that's,
yes, that's a different line.
[04:55:33.300 --> 04:55:41.640]  But just for the salary, it should be,
you know, we have a little bit of an
[04:55:41.640 --> 04:55:45.480]  increase to $441,000 this year.
[04:55:45.940 --> 04:55:50.980]  That should be taken care of it.
[04:55:51.200 --> 04:55:53.160]  So I don't know if there's been money.
[04:55:54.360 --> 04:56:01.770]  Well, I can say maybe there's a year where
we're like mid-years, resigns,
[04:56:01.770 --> 04:56:01.970]  whatever.
[04:56:06.670 --> 04:56:10.410]  Yeah, but that money should automatically
go back into the general.
[04:56:13.010 --> 04:56:13.590]  Hasn't been.
[04:56:13.630 --> 04:56:14.090]  Maybe not.
[04:56:14.270 --> 04:56:17.910]  But if you've been in the past,
and because I've been here for many,
[04:56:17.990 --> 04:56:21.170]  many years, if you ever ran short on that,
you'd come back and ask for it.
[04:56:21.290 --> 04:56:21.710]  Right.
[04:56:21.750 --> 04:56:22.850]  Just come back for appropriations.
[04:56:22.850 --> 04:56:23.310]  It's okay.
[04:56:24.470 --> 04:56:27.130]  We know how important that is.
[04:56:27.470 --> 04:56:29.250]  I have no issue with that.
[04:56:29.250 --> 04:56:32.450]  So anyway, what I'm saying, Matt,
that's a... I think that money needs to go
[04:56:32.450 --> 04:56:32.650]  back.
[04:56:35.960 --> 04:56:37.360]  And which ones made a hundred?
[04:56:38.100 --> 04:56:39.800]  Oh, none of them would even want to make
it.
[04:56:40.900 --> 04:56:42.180]  Well, a hundred wouldn't go anywhere.
[04:56:42.740 --> 04:56:44.160]  You just wouldn't budget for it.
[04:56:44.200 --> 04:56:45.540]  Yeah, so I'm going to stick to our budget.
[04:56:47.120 --> 04:56:51.280]  But what's in there now, I think it's
like... how much is in there?
[04:56:51.320 --> 04:56:52.740]  How much did you say was in there right
now, Mark?
[04:56:53.920 --> 04:56:56.840]  July 31st there was $1,116,194.
[04:56:56.840 --> 04:57:00.700]  So, if somebody needs to come,
a big chunk of that needs to go out of
[04:57:00.700 --> 04:57:02.820]  there and back into the new general,
right?
[04:57:03.320 --> 04:57:03.760]  Maybe.
[04:57:04.020 --> 04:57:05.140]  Or just pay the bill.
[04:57:05.360 --> 04:57:05.740]  Yeah.
[04:57:07.380 --> 04:57:10.360]  Yeah, that's all like statutory stuff
right there.
[04:57:10.600 --> 04:57:17.460]  But like if you're doing a capital case,
which is a death penalty case,
[04:57:18.160 --> 04:57:21.760]  you owe a lot of money, which is...
[04:57:23.950 --> 04:57:30.310]  And that CCAA is the Commission... what
did they say?
[04:57:30.730 --> 04:57:35.250]  Accounting Commission on Appointment of
Attorneys, I think?
[04:57:35.330 --> 04:57:36.490]  They just changed the name.
[04:57:36.530 --> 04:57:37.510]  I forget what that's named.
[04:57:37.890 --> 04:57:38.550]  What's that say?
[04:57:38.990 --> 04:57:41.270]  Well, anyways, so...
[04:57:41.270 --> 04:57:43.010]  That's not going to... we'll figure that
one out.
[04:57:43.270 --> 04:57:43.630]  Okay.
[04:57:43.770 --> 04:57:44.790]  We'll get that figured out.
[04:57:45.370 --> 04:57:45.810]  So...
[04:57:57.550 --> 04:58:00.150]  Hey, so on the... come here.
[04:58:00.250 --> 04:58:01.370]  I'll show you this real quick,
Ellen.
[04:58:02.330 --> 04:58:03.870]  Come here, I'll show it to you.
[04:58:04.550 --> 04:58:05.810]  What is this?
[04:58:08.090 --> 04:58:08.610]  This.
[04:58:08.830 --> 04:58:09.950]  I know it's $1,000.
[04:58:09.950 --> 04:58:10.650]  What is that?
[04:58:11.610 --> 04:58:12.470]  Office supplies?
[04:58:12.850 --> 04:58:13.830]  No, miscellaneous.
[04:58:15.010 --> 04:58:16.570]  That's $2,000.
[04:58:17.050 --> 04:58:18.070]  Miscellaneous expense?
[04:58:18.610 --> 04:58:19.630]  Yeah, what would that mean?
[04:58:19.670 --> 04:58:22.270]  We're trying to get away from all the
miscellaneous titles.
[04:58:24.470 --> 04:58:24.990]  Good.
[04:58:24.990 --> 04:58:26.950]  So what I'm going to do is I'm going to
eliminate that.
[04:58:27.330 --> 04:58:28.290]  Take that out.
[04:58:28.470 --> 04:58:28.990]  Totally.
[04:58:29.650 --> 04:58:33.710]  And then, so if you needed something,
then you can come back and ask us for it.
[04:58:33.750 --> 04:58:35.930]  We need some money for this or that.
[04:58:36.330 --> 04:58:39.510]  That way we can name it, not miscellaneous
expenses.
[04:58:39.530 --> 04:58:42.650]  That's probably... yeah, probably late.
[04:58:42.950 --> 04:58:46.690]  So we have $2,000 for office supplies.
[04:58:47.250 --> 04:58:49.150]  That's probably really, truly not enough.
[04:58:49.450 --> 04:58:53.430]  So we'd probably go into that
miscellaneous expense and just leave it
[04:58:53.430 --> 04:58:53.670]  there.
[04:58:54.930 --> 04:58:57.150]  But next day, you can come back and ask
for it.
[04:58:57.190 --> 04:58:57.610]  That's fine.
[04:58:57.610 --> 04:58:58.010]  Right.
[04:58:58.170 --> 04:59:02.150]  I think we probably need to stay
consistent with that, because that's what
[04:59:02.150 --> 04:59:03.410]  we've been doing with all the departments.
[04:59:08.440 --> 04:59:09.540]  Did you catch that, Matt?
[04:59:11.900 --> 04:59:12.700]  The miscellaneous?
[04:59:13.060 --> 04:59:13.240]  Yeah.
[04:59:15.980 --> 04:59:17.340]  What do you want done with it?
[04:59:17.640 --> 04:59:18.320]  Eliminate that.
[04:59:18.600 --> 04:59:19.500]  That's $1,000.
[04:59:19.660 --> 04:59:21.780]  That miscellaneous expense is at $2,000.
[04:59:27.810 --> 04:59:28.710]  Take it to zero?
[04:59:28.990 --> 04:59:29.230]  Yeah.
[04:59:29.330 --> 04:59:32.530]  And then also, the law books.
[04:59:33.010 --> 04:59:34.590]  Can you tell me about the law books?
[04:59:34.590 --> 04:59:35.710]  I understand.
[04:59:35.890 --> 04:59:39.310]  I know one time we had to have them before
we had to put everything into the
[04:59:39.310 --> 04:59:39.670]  computer.
[04:59:39.990 --> 04:59:45.130]  Another thing that's... we're
definitely... but it says books,
[04:59:45.170 --> 04:59:45.550]  equipment.
[04:59:45.970 --> 04:59:52.250]  So we do use it sometimes, like if we have
to get a piece for a computer or something
[04:59:52.250 --> 04:59:52.890]  like that.
[04:59:53.350 --> 04:59:54.210]  That makes sense.
[04:59:54.510 --> 05:00:00.770]  Or if we have to... we really don't ever
have to buy software or anything like
[05:00:00.770 --> 05:00:01.090]  that.
[05:00:12.450 --> 05:00:17.430]  I would say that's just sometimes like,
okay, somebody needs a new keyboard,
[05:00:17.550 --> 05:00:24.230]  somebody needs a new mouse, somebody needs
a new desk or a screen.
[05:00:24.810 --> 05:00:28.490]  That's usually where that comes from,
and it's obviously not very much.
[05:00:28.490 --> 05:00:34.490]  But wouldn't you stick that in Office of
Pies instead of having a bunch of
[05:00:34.490 --> 05:00:35.090]  different lines?
[05:00:35.570 --> 05:00:39.250]  Yeah, you just stick that in there with
Office of Pies for $4,000.
[05:00:41.980 --> 05:00:44.060]  I didn't see that in the book.
[05:00:44.420 --> 05:00:44.860]  What do you say?
[05:00:44.960 --> 05:00:46.100]  Office of Pies right there?
[05:00:46.420 --> 05:00:47.880]  No, I didn't see it in the books.
[05:00:48.660 --> 05:00:50.820]  Well, no, I asked her that question.
[05:00:50.900 --> 05:00:54.500]  I saw it in the Superior Court.
[05:00:54.820 --> 05:00:55.760]  Okay, not here.
[05:00:55.960 --> 05:00:56.820]  I said in the law books.
[05:00:56.920 --> 05:00:59.940]  I just assumed she had it also,
but she didn't.
[05:01:14.260 --> 05:01:16.220]  So we have to keep it separate.
[05:01:17.300 --> 05:01:21.140]  You're right, that's all
[05:01:32.680 --> 05:01:33.640]  I had, guys.
[05:01:34.140 --> 05:01:34.980]  That's good to me.
[05:01:41.740 --> 05:01:45.340]  And for that miscellany that you guys were
asking about,
[05:01:49.320 --> 05:02:01.480]  actually, I thought ours had been like 120
for a while, and like two years ago I
[05:02:01.480 --> 05:02:04.340]  thought it was up to 180, or just 80.
[05:02:04.840 --> 05:02:06.920]  We always had money left in that.
[05:02:07.740 --> 05:02:11.300]  But on here, it still reads that we had...
[05:02:13.750 --> 05:02:14.990]  I don't see anything.
[05:02:23.090 --> 05:02:25.430]  I don't see anything.
[05:02:25.670 --> 05:02:26.690]  I don't see it.
[05:02:32.370 --> 05:02:33.390]  I don't see it.
[05:02:33.550 --> 05:02:34.590]  I don't see it.
[05:02:34.870 --> 05:02:35.390]  Okay.
[05:02:38.530 --> 05:02:41.030]  It's in font 4944.
[05:02:42.990 --> 05:02:44.070]  I don't see it.
[05:02:48.230 --> 05:02:52.910]  So it was on the budget form I filled out
that you needed it to this.
[05:02:53.850 --> 05:02:55.350]  It's on here, I don't know why.
[05:02:55.750 --> 05:02:56.610]  I don't have it.
[05:02:56.770 --> 05:02:57.690]  Do you see it?
[05:02:57.910 --> 05:02:58.550]  What's the number?
[05:02:58.550 --> 05:03:00.350]  It's the top one highlighted here.
[05:03:00.630 --> 05:03:01.650]  Is that what you're looking at?
[05:03:02.390 --> 05:03:02.790]  Yeah.
[05:03:03.090 --> 05:03:03.490]  Yeah.
[05:03:03.610 --> 05:03:04.770]  That's what I was talking about.
[05:03:05.490 --> 05:03:06.290]  That's what I was...
[05:03:07.550 --> 05:03:08.070]  That's right.
[05:03:08.550 --> 05:03:10.010]  I just want to see it on this...
[05:03:10.750 --> 05:03:11.730]  I don't have that.
[05:03:13.830 --> 05:03:15.530]  It's the one we were talking about
earlier.
[05:03:16.030 --> 05:03:17.630]  When Andy was here.
[05:03:18.150 --> 05:03:19.230]  Oh, that was in probation.
[05:03:19.630 --> 05:03:20.290]  In probation?
[05:03:20.290 --> 05:03:20.590]  Did he say probation?
[05:03:21.990 --> 05:03:23.310]  Did probation have a warning?
[05:03:23.310 --> 05:03:26.870]  Yeah, he said that was the one that he
said should have been here.
[05:03:26.870 --> 05:03:27.630]  It should have been here.
[05:03:27.970 --> 05:03:28.450]  Yeah.
[05:03:28.730 --> 05:03:29.210]  Okay.
[05:03:29.290 --> 05:03:30.490]  He had it listed by department.
[05:03:30.630 --> 05:03:31.330]  Trevor put it.
[05:03:31.390 --> 05:03:32.550]  It should be in here.
[05:03:32.950 --> 05:03:33.430]  Okay.
[05:03:33.710 --> 05:03:34.950]  That seems to jump over.
[05:03:35.090 --> 05:03:35.350]  Okay.
[05:03:35.390 --> 05:03:35.970]  That makes sense.
[05:03:36.470 --> 05:03:36.950]  Okay.
[05:03:37.030 --> 05:03:41.690]  But anyway, so for that, we do use it a
lot.
[05:03:41.990 --> 05:03:47.850]  Probably the biggest thing we use it on is
not necessarily public defenders,
[05:03:48.030 --> 05:03:49.090]  but when people appeal.
[05:03:49.930 --> 05:03:57.050]  We have some appellate attorneys being
listed, and so much depends on the year,
[05:03:57.090 --> 05:03:59.350]  too, how certain you're good.
[05:03:59.610 --> 05:04:07.550]  But if you have criminal cases where what
you have allotted for appellate attorneys
[05:04:07.550 --> 05:04:13.190]  is about $10,000 for an attorney to do an
appeal.
[05:04:13.430 --> 05:04:16.030]  That's two appeals in a year.
[05:04:16.110 --> 05:04:17.550]  That's not getting us very far.
[05:04:19.430 --> 05:04:22.510]  So if you have more than that,
that's where that comes from.
[05:04:22.670 --> 05:04:23.590]  It comes from
[05:04:27.640 --> 05:04:32.940]  criminal rights cases and child abuse
services cases, although a lot.
[05:04:34.140 --> 05:04:38.960]  You may even have more appeals than that
than you do in criminal cases.
[05:04:39.500 --> 05:04:44.080]  So that's what that's used for,
but we were always never to the 120.
[05:04:45.440 --> 05:04:49.060]  So Matt, he was two years late by that,
so we cut it to 80.
[05:04:49.060 --> 05:04:52.180]  I said, yeah, that's fine.
[05:04:52.940 --> 05:05:02.360]  The form I got to fill out does have it
listed at 120, and we spent 73.
[05:05:02.860 --> 05:05:05.480]  A couple of years ago, I thought it went
down to 80.
[05:05:05.880 --> 05:05:10.900]  But anyway, regardless, I was operating
under the assumption it was 80.
[05:05:11.120 --> 05:05:15.620]  The other thing we use that for is mental
health evaluations.
[05:05:15.620 --> 05:05:21.580]  If you've got 20,000 there, about 4,000 a
pop.
[05:05:24.000 --> 05:05:27.440]  So if you get one of those, you have those
heavy in here.
[05:05:29.120 --> 05:05:34.360]  And granted, one person is going to
require at least two evaluations.
[05:05:37.940 --> 05:05:44.380]  There's some situations where you can get
away with one, but most is at least two.
[05:05:44.380 --> 05:05:46.820]  That runs out pretty quickly.
[05:05:46.920 --> 05:05:48.320]  That comes from there.
[05:05:50.300 --> 05:05:53.660]  So that's really what we're using that
for.
[05:05:57.740 --> 05:06:04.300]  Kind of like, they're like one-offs,
but you usually end up having more than
[05:06:04.300 --> 05:06:06.580]  one-off in the year.
[05:06:08.660 --> 05:06:09.860]  If that makes sense.
[05:06:17.250 --> 05:06:22.930]  I mean, this is just a home rule fund that
the state doesn't really look at.
[05:06:23.050 --> 05:06:24.750]  As long as it's in the black, they approve
it.
[05:06:25.150 --> 05:06:29.770]  But I don't, with that being said,
I don't know this fund as well,
[05:06:29.930 --> 05:06:34.290]  as far as the useful spending and what
you're allowed to spend in here.
[05:06:34.870 --> 05:06:38.970]  Is there anything additional that's in the
general fund that could be in here?
[05:06:43.630 --> 05:06:49.390]  No, just be funded in this $49.44
altogether.
[05:06:51.170 --> 05:06:54.590]  As far as... let me go back to your other
budget.
[05:06:55.030 --> 05:07:03.210]  I mean, I can do digging when I leave
today, but as far as any of this...
[05:07:05.310 --> 05:07:07.930]  Let me go back into the general.
[05:07:08.270 --> 05:07:09.190]  Yeah, this is it.
[05:07:26.350 --> 05:07:30.830]  Well, you've got to keep them separate.
[05:07:31.050 --> 05:07:31.290]  Yeah.
[05:07:33.570 --> 05:07:34.350]  Have you
[05:07:41.480 --> 05:07:41.820]  seen it?
[05:07:41.820 --> 05:07:43.740]  Yeah, but I don't know why you need that
money.
[05:07:45.200 --> 05:07:47.900]  I don't understand why you mess with that.
[05:07:48.660 --> 05:07:51.280]  Because that should come out of the CUNY
courthouse fund.
[05:07:52.060 --> 05:07:53.620]  We shouldn't be budgeting that.
[05:07:54.820 --> 05:07:56.840]  I don't know where the money is coming
from.
[05:07:57.080 --> 05:08:00.000]  What I'm saying, anything in that
courthouse, anything.
[05:08:00.080 --> 05:08:00.860]  CUNY courthouse.
[05:08:00.940 --> 05:08:01.640]  CUNY courthouse.
[05:08:01.720 --> 05:08:03.020]  And you've got money in there.
[05:08:03.400 --> 05:08:06.620]  And I do tell the commissioners,
why don't you take it out of your own
[05:08:06.620 --> 05:08:06.800]  budget?
[05:08:07.020 --> 05:08:08.560]  I would say eliminate that.
[05:08:08.900 --> 05:08:10.540]  Well, repair and maintenance.
[05:08:10.540 --> 05:08:11.940]  Yeah, repair and maintenance.
[05:08:12.080 --> 05:08:14.220]  I don't know why... unless you want to use
that.
[05:08:14.380 --> 05:08:18.900]  Okay, so unless you want to use that
repair and maintenance on computers or
[05:08:18.900 --> 05:08:19.800]  something like that...
[05:08:19.800 --> 05:08:22.440]  Then that should be... but you've got an
office supply line.
[05:08:22.880 --> 05:08:23.980]  You don't need that, do you?
[05:08:24.200 --> 05:08:24.820]  You see what I'm saying?
[05:08:25.060 --> 05:08:26.180]  But I see what you're doing.
[05:08:26.220 --> 05:08:27.840]  You're trying to take care of that core.
[05:08:28.080 --> 05:08:28.460]  Right.
[05:08:28.540 --> 05:08:29.120]  And you have.
[05:08:29.320 --> 05:08:33.960]  But the other part, too, is repairs and
maintenance like our copier gets worked on
[05:08:33.960 --> 05:08:34.960]  all the time.
[05:08:34.980 --> 05:08:35.300]  Your what?
[05:08:35.780 --> 05:08:36.180]  Copier.
[05:08:36.940 --> 05:08:38.000]  That's what I'm saying.
[05:08:38.340 --> 05:08:40.120]  But that should be in your office
supplies.
[05:08:56.340 --> 05:09:02.540]  This repair and maintenance is meant for
that building, your office, the court
[05:09:02.540 --> 05:09:04.000]  room, any of that.
[05:09:04.360 --> 05:09:06.360]  That should be coming out of the King's
Courthouse.
[05:09:06.440 --> 05:09:07.840]  We shouldn't even have that much of a lot.
[05:09:10.220 --> 05:09:12.620]  It's not a big chunk of money,
but when you start adding up the whole
[05:09:12.620 --> 05:09:15.600]  county doing that kind of stuff,
it adds up to a chunk of money.
[05:09:20.840 --> 05:09:25.460]  You wanted me to shift the $3,000 from
here to Kuhn Courthouse?
[05:09:27.040 --> 05:09:29.680]  Yeah, you don't want to have that in
there.
[05:09:32.360 --> 05:09:33.820]  Or just take it totally out.
[05:09:34.900 --> 05:09:36.460]  Why would you want to shift it in?
[05:09:36.560 --> 05:09:37.800]  You don't want to shift anything in there.
[05:09:38.860 --> 05:09:42.120]  Well, I thought you said that you wanted
it paid from the CUNY Courthouse.
[05:09:42.320 --> 05:09:44.140]  Yeah, but there's nothing in there
already.
[05:09:44.340 --> 05:09:45.420]  There's no appropriation.
[05:09:45.420 --> 05:09:45.920]  They have to budget it, though.
[05:09:45.980 --> 05:09:48.420]  They have to budget it if they want to pay
for it.
[05:09:50.380 --> 05:09:51.180]  We appropriate.
[05:09:51.820 --> 05:09:52.720]  We appropriate.
[05:09:53.820 --> 05:09:56.000]  You're saying there's already a repairs
and maintenance line.
[05:09:56.180 --> 05:09:56.560]  Yes.
[05:09:56.560 --> 05:09:58.080]  Do you want to increase it by $3,000?
[05:09:58.180 --> 05:09:58.600]  We don't want to.
[05:09:58.740 --> 05:09:59.560]  I wouldn't do that.
[05:09:59.600 --> 05:10:00.260]  I'd just take it out.
[05:10:00.460 --> 05:10:00.860]  Totally.
[05:10:01.220 --> 05:10:03.740]  Because we appropriate that whole fund.
[05:10:04.080 --> 05:10:04.320]  Yeah.
[05:10:04.320 --> 05:10:07.260]  And then we give the authority,
spending authority to the commissioners,
[05:10:07.260 --> 05:10:08.500]  I think, of what, $50,000?
[05:10:09.300 --> 05:10:10.140]  Out of that fund.
[05:10:10.680 --> 05:10:14.280]  And anything to do with that courthouse,
they can spend up to that $50,000.
[05:10:14.440 --> 05:10:16.240]  If they need more, they come back to us.
[05:10:16.820 --> 05:10:18.260]  And then we'll give them a little bit
more.
[05:10:19.260 --> 05:10:24.340]  So they're clear when they leave here,
they just go request the $3,000 from Hume
[05:10:24.340 --> 05:10:26.440]  Courthouse to repair the wall?
[05:10:29.040 --> 05:10:31.560]  She's not put in here for that reason.
[05:10:31.620 --> 05:10:31.760]  I know.
[05:10:31.760 --> 05:10:33.780]  Yeah, but they just tell the
commissioners.
[05:10:33.800 --> 05:10:36.100]  Give me the $50,000 that's in there you're
saying.
[05:10:36.500 --> 05:10:38.760]  I just come and say...
[05:10:39.320 --> 05:10:40.840]  You go to the commissioners.
[05:10:40.860 --> 05:10:43.460]  And you're saying, I need this fixed.
[05:10:43.660 --> 05:10:44.300]  Box fixed.
[05:10:44.760 --> 05:10:50.000]  Is there any maintenance on any of the
equipment that you have on there that that
[05:10:50.000 --> 05:10:50.920]  would have been for?
[05:10:52.600 --> 05:10:56.060]  Well, like our sound system, our recording
system definitely.
[05:10:56.600 --> 05:10:59.760]  You're looking at my computers,
copiers, phones...
[05:10:59.760 --> 05:11:01.580]  That's office supplies though,
right?
[05:11:01.920 --> 05:11:09.840]  Yeah, but I'm just saying that 6,000
obviously is not going to go as far as
[05:11:09.840 --> 05:11:10.560]  9,000.
[05:11:10.760 --> 05:11:17.020]  But if you just want us to have... take
the repairs and maintenance... out.
[05:11:19.540 --> 05:11:24.140]  Like, a cube courthouse to me seems like
the structure of the courthouse.
[05:11:24.400 --> 05:11:25.100]  You're right, yeah.
[05:11:25.380 --> 05:11:27.020]  The walls, the ceiling...
[05:11:27.020 --> 05:11:27.740]  You just said that.
[05:11:27.940 --> 05:11:28.440]  You said that.
[05:11:28.600 --> 05:11:28.840]  Right.
[05:11:28.840 --> 05:11:35.020]  But like when I have recording equipment
that needs work on, that's what I'm
[05:11:35.020 --> 05:11:35.640]  thinking that's for.
[05:11:36.000 --> 05:11:37.080]  I bet you're right.
[05:11:37.140 --> 05:11:40.120]  That makes sense because there wouldn't be
an office supplies.
[05:11:40.280 --> 05:11:43.400]  Office supplies, pencil, paper,
copy papers and all that stuff.
[05:11:43.620 --> 05:11:46.840]  But now maintenance, that would be like
under your maintenance agreement or...
[05:11:47.400 --> 05:11:48.880]  The community court also wouldn't cover
that.
[05:11:49.040 --> 05:11:50.040]  No, they wouldn't cover that.
[05:11:50.300 --> 05:11:50.740]  Right.
[05:11:50.740 --> 05:11:51.660]  Because it has to be structural.
[05:11:51.900 --> 05:11:57.420]  If something happens to the equipment,
that's really the line item that it should
[05:11:57.420 --> 05:11:57.600]  be.
[05:11:57.600 --> 05:11:59.500]  That's what he's saying, it needs to stay
here maybe.
[05:12:00.660 --> 05:12:01.800]  So I guess, yeah.
[05:12:02.000 --> 05:12:05.760]  But the comment was, she was using it for
walls and stuff like that.
[05:12:05.760 --> 05:12:07.520]  And I was saying, you can't, you shouldn't
be doing that.
[05:12:08.320 --> 05:12:10.340]  So we're going to leave it alone then,
basically.
[05:12:10.740 --> 05:12:11.600]  I think so too.
[05:12:12.200 --> 05:12:12.600]  Okay.
[05:12:13.900 --> 05:12:17.480]  But we've just got to understand that you
don't want to use that money for that.
[05:12:17.480 --> 05:12:22.140]  And I need stuff structurally,
or I'm calling big projects.
[05:12:23.700 --> 05:12:25.440]  And then structural commissioners.
[05:12:37.220 --> 05:12:44.620]  Just on the public defender fund,
so none of this is going to be there,
[05:12:44.780 --> 05:12:45.000]  right?
[05:12:45.140 --> 05:12:50.320]  Is that what you said, as far as budgeting
within that 4944 fund?
[05:12:50.500 --> 05:12:54.320]  And the only reason I'm asking is just
because it's carrying a lot of cash.
[05:12:54.320 --> 05:12:59.400]  And this being a general fund,
if there was an opportunity to move
[05:12:59.400 --> 05:13:01.840]  anything over there, it would help
alleviate.
[05:13:02.500 --> 05:13:04.960]  Because right now it's general funds
projected.
[05:13:05.060 --> 05:13:10.760]  I just, I mean, I don't know if there's a
mechanism for changing a line item,
[05:13:10.900 --> 05:13:12.620]  like those first four digits.
[05:13:14.020 --> 05:13:19.500]  I've always been told we are, like my
office can't access it, which I tried
[05:13:19.500 --> 05:13:20.580]  actually to do before.
[05:13:34.340 --> 05:13:35.020]  No,
[05:13:38.100 --> 05:13:44.520]  I mean just from like the public defender
legal uses or do any of these
[05:13:50.840 --> 05:13:52.720]  I think it's what we ought to do.
[05:13:53.280 --> 05:13:58.920]  Again, it wouldn't be taking any of this
budget away, per se.
[05:13:59.020 --> 05:14:00.920]  It would be just shifting it.
[05:14:01.020 --> 05:14:05.420]  And we can't do that, as long as there are
legal uses for some of these.
[05:14:06.940 --> 05:14:08.720]  But I just didn't know if you know what
I'm talking about.
[05:14:08.720 --> 05:14:10.720]  Well, frankly, there are probably all
legal uses.
[05:14:10.760 --> 05:14:13.240]  It's just that you can do the switching.
[05:14:25.600 --> 05:14:28.880]  Could you even pay a portion of the proper
return, is it not, hon?
[05:14:31.140 --> 05:14:34.880]  I don't know that from the financial
standpoint.
[05:14:35.440 --> 05:14:37.640]  But if you guys want to look at it,
yeah, I'm sure.
[05:14:38.280 --> 05:14:39.860]  I can look at the legal uses.
[05:14:40.720 --> 05:14:43.820]  I know what you're trying to do,
but I thought it was going to be so
[05:14:43.820 --> 05:14:44.200]  much...
[05:14:44.940 --> 05:14:46.320]  I can't move the money.
[05:14:46.540 --> 05:14:48.180]  I just looked it up.
[05:14:48.180 --> 05:14:51.220]  So once the money is in there and he
builds cash, it stops.
[05:14:51.620 --> 05:14:52.940]  But I see what you're telling me.
[05:14:52.980 --> 05:14:53.140]  Okay.
[05:14:53.160 --> 05:14:53.780]  That makes sense.
[05:14:54.000 --> 05:14:54.340]  Alright.
[05:14:55.020 --> 05:14:57.080]  You can't move it, but you can use it
within...
[05:14:58.300 --> 05:14:58.740]  Potentially.
[05:14:59.000 --> 05:14:59.320]  Potentially.
[05:14:59.460 --> 05:14:59.740]  Okay.
[05:14:59.880 --> 05:15:00.140]  Alright.
[05:15:02.980 --> 05:15:04.260]  The tip we're doing is good.
[05:15:04.420 --> 05:15:05.600]  It's been building.
[05:15:06.020 --> 05:15:11.040]  You know, eight years ago that fund had
$382,000.
[05:15:11.100 --> 05:15:12.420]  Now it's got $1.1 million.
[05:15:13.260 --> 05:15:15.540]  I think that's not going back.
[05:15:15.540 --> 05:15:18.060]  Well, he's saying you can't.
[05:15:18.060 --> 05:15:19.180]  They can't go back.
[05:15:19.380 --> 05:15:22.540]  Once it builds cash at the end of the
year, it has to stay.
[05:15:22.840 --> 05:15:24.740]  That just doesn't make any sense to me.
[05:15:24.840 --> 05:15:26.720]  There's more we should be paying out of
that.
[05:15:28.140 --> 05:15:28.980]  That's what he's saying.
[05:15:33.580 --> 05:15:33.980]  Okay.
[05:15:33.980 --> 05:15:34.920]  You want to go get some pizza?
[05:15:35.660 --> 05:15:36.060]  Hi.
[05:15:36.080 --> 05:15:37.260]  Want to go get some pizza?
[05:15:37.540 --> 05:15:37.820]  No.
[05:15:38.680 --> 05:15:39.380]  Thanks, Ellie.
[05:15:39.800 --> 05:15:40.440]  Thanks, Ellie.
[05:15:50.690 --> 05:15:52.170]  Okay, so we hear what you do.
[05:15:53.110 --> 05:15:53.830]  Okay, okay.
[05:15:57.750 --> 05:15:59.210]  Then you defund it.
[05:16:00.990 --> 05:16:02.230]  I know what you're saying.
[05:16:05.730 --> 05:16:08.690]  Okay, over a million dollars in that one,
if we just move it over, I'm free.
[05:16:11.510 --> 05:16:12.290]  I get it.
[05:16:12.330 --> 05:16:14.390]  I understand what I'm saying.
[05:16:14.450 --> 05:16:15.830]  So if you're going to appropriate...
[05:16:17.290 --> 05:16:22.770]  Okay, so what I'm saying, so you're gonna
appropriate 441,000 this year.
[05:16:24.230 --> 05:16:24.930]  Don't do it.
[05:16:25.290 --> 05:16:28.770]  And they have to take it from the fund,
the independent area to build that,
[05:16:28.770 --> 05:16:28.970]  correct?
[05:16:29.210 --> 05:16:29.890]  Is that what you're saying?
[05:16:30.230 --> 05:16:33.170]  Yeah, we would zero it out of the general
fund and put it in public defender.
[05:16:34.530 --> 05:16:36.570]  Is that what that 1.7 million is at?
[05:16:37.630 --> 05:16:38.710]  Okay, I'm with you.
[05:16:38.830 --> 05:16:39.030]  All right.
[05:16:39.170 --> 05:16:41.790]  As of June 30, it was over 1.1 million.
[05:16:42.370 --> 05:16:43.290]  And so that...
[05:16:43.290 --> 05:16:45.690]  It wouldn't be like forever sustainable,
but...
[05:16:45.690 --> 05:16:47.750]  Yeah, but just to help us through a bad
period, yeah.
[05:16:47.910 --> 05:16:48.930]  Well, that was big time.
[05:16:49.130 --> 05:16:50.550]  So we could take that 441 out.
[05:16:50.890 --> 05:16:51.130]  We...
[05:16:51.130 --> 05:16:52.910]  I... and that's what I don't know.
[05:16:53.010 --> 05:16:56.470]  It's... she sounded like it could
potentially be moved in there,
[05:16:56.610 --> 05:16:58.790]  but I want to make sure statutorily...
[05:16:58.790 --> 05:16:59.950]  If you find out, let's do that.
[05:17:00.030 --> 05:17:00.450]  Oh my gosh.
[05:17:00.450 --> 05:17:02.230]  That's what don't make sense to me,
what you're saying.
[05:17:02.330 --> 05:17:04.970]  Maybe we're saying the same thing,
just going about it in different ways.
[05:17:05.170 --> 05:17:05.310]  What?
[05:17:07.170 --> 05:17:09.070]  I'm saying, if there's a one point...
[05:17:09.070 --> 05:17:15.170]  if there's 1.2 million dollars in the fund
for the POP returns, Okay, 1.2 million.
[05:17:15.510 --> 05:17:16.310]  Public defender.
[05:17:16.530 --> 05:17:17.250]  Public defender.
[05:17:19.690 --> 05:17:22.610]  Then the county don't fund that this year.
[05:17:22.990 --> 05:17:25.010]  And they can just draw on that.
[05:17:25.030 --> 05:17:26.670]  That's what he's saying, but to make sure
we can do it.
[05:17:27.170 --> 05:17:28.650]  But you still got a budget in there.
[05:17:28.710 --> 05:17:29.710]  You want a budget in there.
[05:17:32.630 --> 05:17:33.770]  If not, it's going to grow.
[05:17:34.030 --> 05:17:36.990]  And then if they don't budget in there,
they're going to have to come ask for
[05:17:36.990 --> 05:17:37.550]  additionals.
[05:17:37.830 --> 05:17:39.510]  I'm saying over budget it.
[05:17:41.790 --> 05:17:49.650]  I think we're saying similar things.
[05:17:50.150 --> 05:17:52.070]  But you do want to budget it.
[05:17:52.290 --> 05:17:55.490]  You definitely want to budget it.
[05:17:55.770 --> 05:17:58.310]  I'm just saying, can we legally put this
stuff in there?
[05:17:58.390 --> 05:18:03.370]  And if so, you guys come to terms with how
much cash you're okay with being in that
[05:18:03.370 --> 05:18:03.570]  fund.
[05:18:04.350 --> 05:18:07.150]  And maybe we spend it down over the course
of the next four years.
[05:18:07.150 --> 05:18:08.350]  It needs to be cut in half.
[05:18:09.550 --> 05:18:11.490]  Yeah, that needs to be cut in half.
[05:18:13.730 --> 05:18:25.230]  But if you took 441 out of the general
fund, you're at a $130,000 deficit in
[05:18:25.230 --> 05:18:27.850]  general as opposed to a $571,000 deficit.
[05:18:29.070 --> 05:18:30.430]  That sure sounds a lot better.
[05:18:30.630 --> 05:18:31.970]  And it's going to be a lot less than that,
too.
[05:18:32.770 --> 05:18:33.210]  Maybe.
[05:18:33.430 --> 05:18:34.730]  Yeah, it is.
[05:18:35.850 --> 05:18:36.970]  Alright, where are we at now?
[05:18:36.990 --> 05:18:37.210]  Extension?
[05:18:39.650 --> 05:18:40.490]  That's up there.
[05:18:41.290 --> 05:18:42.050]  That's right here.
[05:18:42.310 --> 05:18:43.190]  That's the new guy.
[05:18:44.770 --> 05:18:45.770]  The new guy.
[05:18:46.650 --> 05:18:48.390]  Hopefully I'll make it easy for you guys.
[05:18:49.910 --> 05:18:53.430]  So, as we look at the Extension budget...
[05:18:53.430 --> 05:18:55.230]  Ten, I think.
[05:18:55.370 --> 05:18:56.990]  There are a couple of major changes.
[05:18:57.150 --> 05:18:58.630]  Most of the things stayed the same.
[05:18:58.790 --> 05:19:01.790]  So, as far as our payroll is concerned,
[05:19:11.590 --> 05:19:16.790]  So then going down through office
supplies, we have 5,000 teaching supplies.
[05:19:16.910 --> 05:19:18.770]  We have 850 posted.
[05:19:18.950 --> 05:19:19.930]  We left 2,300.
[05:19:20.110 --> 05:19:23.970]  That's one that we anticipate will
potentially look different next year,
[05:19:24.090 --> 05:19:26.290]  maybe reducing with the new model.
[05:19:26.290 --> 05:19:31.330]  So, contractual services is at 135,
which is the same as it was last year.
[05:19:31.410 --> 05:19:35.530]  And again, this year it's based on that
new population-based model, so that number
[05:19:35.530 --> 05:19:39.450]  will be the same as this year as it is
next year as well.
[05:19:39.510 --> 05:19:41.390]  It's a two-year, as I mentioned.
[05:19:41.930 --> 05:19:44.370]  The travel and mileage is where it may
change, you'll see.
[05:19:44.530 --> 05:19:45.790]  There's a $6,000 reduction.
[05:19:46.150 --> 05:19:49.430]  The reason for that is that is absorbed
into the contractual services.
[05:19:49.430 --> 05:19:53.710]  So, the county is no longer paying for the
educator mileage that was paid out of
[05:19:53.710 --> 05:19:53.910]  that.
[05:19:54.170 --> 05:19:56.390]  Contractual Services Fees 3 will cover
that.
[05:19:56.710 --> 05:19:59.670]  The $500 that is remaining is for our...
[05:19:59.670 --> 05:20:04.490]  any county staff that are here that may
have to drive for business and they would
[05:20:04.490 --> 05:20:06.550]  be reimbursed for their travel.
[05:20:07.430 --> 05:20:10.350]  Repair and Maintenance is our next line
item.
[05:20:11.010 --> 05:20:15.470]  This is looking at our copier that we have
and that's one thing that we need to
[05:20:15.470 --> 05:20:15.950]  discuss.
[05:20:15.950 --> 05:20:21.450]  We're just trying to visit something that
we... is that direction we're going is the
[05:20:21.450 --> 05:20:23.550]  least or we'll die away when that comes
up.
[05:20:24.190 --> 05:20:26.570]  Then dues and meetings is another line
item.
[05:20:26.690 --> 05:20:29.630]  That is a shift where that's not a form of
contractual services.
[05:20:29.830 --> 05:20:34.710]  That's just a new approach where
educators, if there's travel or anything
[05:20:34.710 --> 05:20:38.630]  they'd like to do for a conference,
that is being asked on the educator to
[05:20:38.630 --> 05:20:39.490]  source funding.
[05:20:39.670 --> 05:20:43.030]  That's something that if they're wanting
to do it, it's not something that we want
[05:20:43.030 --> 05:20:43.850]  to put back into county.
[05:20:43.850 --> 05:20:50.130]  And in computer maintenance, also reduced
by $900, that is again where the
[05:20:50.130 --> 05:20:54.870]  contractual services is absorbing the
laptop and technology fee for the
[05:20:54.870 --> 05:20:57.890]  educators and that is being covered by
that service again.
[05:20:58.190 --> 05:21:03.350]  The remaining $1,500 that is in the budget
is to support county staffing in there.
[05:21:03.550 --> 05:21:10.350]  So all told, there's actually an $8,600
reduction from last year's adopted budget.
[05:21:17.500 --> 05:21:22.140]  So that repair and maintenance,
your computers, printers, that kind of
[05:21:22.140 --> 05:21:22.900]  stuff, you said right?
[05:21:22.900 --> 05:21:24.680]  The computer maintenance and the repair
and maintenance?
[05:21:24.680 --> 05:21:26.320]  It says repair and maintenance.
[05:21:26.340 --> 05:21:28.580]  Repair and maintenance is for the lease
that we have.
[05:21:28.680 --> 05:21:32.380]  There's a large printer and it is a piece
that is...
[05:21:33.280 --> 05:21:34.840]  I think it's for the office shop.
[05:21:34.940 --> 05:21:36.920]  I need a paper sheet and it's covering
that.
[05:21:37.120 --> 05:21:39.500]  The computer maintenance, the second one
is...
[05:21:39.500 --> 05:21:44.540]  That is the line item that used to be to
support the purchase and lease of laptops.
[05:21:45.160 --> 05:21:48.880]  So that's why some of it is still there to
support county staff.
[05:21:49.000 --> 05:21:51.560]  But we absorb more of that into the
contractual services.
[05:21:51.560 --> 05:21:56.180]  So if educators need computers now,
we will go through Purdue and have it paid
[05:21:56.180 --> 05:21:58.980]  through Purdue versus needing London
County to cover that.
[05:22:09.810 --> 05:22:11.010]  And it looks good to me.
[05:22:11.490 --> 05:22:12.570]  I have no questions.
[05:22:15.650 --> 05:22:21.670]  Yeah, I was glad to see that much of a
cut, especially after last year's
[05:22:21.670 --> 05:22:21.870]  government.
[05:22:29.120 --> 05:22:30.300]  You got anything else?
[05:22:30.800 --> 05:22:31.240]  No.
[05:22:31.320 --> 05:22:32.760]  Has anyone else got anything else?
[05:22:32.960 --> 05:22:36.840]  If you don't have any questions,
I'm available on my phone again and email.
[05:22:36.840 --> 05:22:42.970]  So if you have any questions beyond today,
the rest of it is needed.
[05:22:43.090 --> 05:22:43.570]  Thank you.
[05:22:43.950 --> 05:22:45.390]  Appreciate it.
[05:22:47.390 --> 05:22:48.330]  Tina's up to bat.
[05:22:48.510 --> 05:22:49.110]  Page 4.
[05:22:49.170 --> 05:22:52.830]  This is Tina Treasurer.
[05:22:53.190 --> 05:22:54.110]  Tina Treasurer.
[05:23:15.150 --> 05:23:16.050]  How about anything?
[05:23:16.850 --> 05:23:19.810]  One thing I have is the salad.
[05:23:20.470 --> 05:23:21.710]  For the two girls.
[05:23:41.440 --> 05:23:48.200]  So I compared the two offices,
the auditor and treasurer.
[05:23:48.420 --> 05:23:49.240]  I feel like if
[05:23:52.340 --> 05:24:00.420]  you look at the I've got four years of 23
to 26, so if you look at the bottom line,
[05:24:00.500 --> 05:24:07.800]  the deputy for the honors, 41,
day 55, treasurer, 39, 303, so there's
[05:24:07.800 --> 05:24:11.080]  kind of a... it's not really that
comparable.
[05:24:52.400 --> 05:24:55.800]  Does it show me here the years of
experience for each one of these?
[05:24:55.800 --> 05:24:58.420]  Do you have any of these, like,
auditor's year experience on first deputy
[05:24:58.420 --> 05:25:01.320]  and treasurer's year experience on first
deputy?
[05:25:02.460 --> 05:25:05.440]  Jeannie has ten years, nine.
[05:25:05.920 --> 05:25:06.380]  Here?
[05:25:07.520 --> 05:25:09.240]  She's been here four years.
[05:25:09.460 --> 05:25:09.900]  Four.
[05:25:09.940 --> 05:25:10.400]  With me.
[05:25:11.200 --> 05:25:15.380]  And then, Billy has been in the office
seven and a half years.
[05:25:39.150 --> 05:25:39.710]  Okay.
[05:25:39.710 --> 05:25:44.630]  I would definitely like to look at this a
little deeper.
[05:25:55.090 --> 05:25:57.990]  First I want to see, we've got to figure
out where we're going to be at.
[05:25:58.270 --> 05:25:59.970]  Then we can take a better look at that.
[05:26:00.090 --> 05:26:03.110]  And I don't disagree with those laws.
[05:26:04.790 --> 05:26:06.250]  This is what we have.
[05:26:06.390 --> 05:26:07.410]  I appreciate that.
[05:26:08.950 --> 05:26:09.530]  That's all.
[05:26:09.730 --> 05:26:10.190]  Thank you Tina.
[05:26:10.470 --> 05:26:10.950]  Appreciate it.
[05:26:16.640 --> 05:26:17.360]  Who's next?
[05:26:17.780 --> 05:26:18.080]  Marie.
[05:26:18.860 --> 05:26:19.640]  Area plan.
[05:26:19.880 --> 05:26:20.980]  You went from behind to ahead.
[05:26:21.620 --> 05:26:22.100]  Yeah.
[05:26:22.320 --> 05:26:25.300]  So you went from behind to a little bit
and now we're ahead.
[05:26:25.400 --> 05:26:26.200]  We've got five minutes.
[05:26:26.260 --> 05:26:27.720]  Plan number 14.
[05:26:29.700 --> 05:26:31.080]  This is an easy one.
[05:26:47.160 --> 05:26:48.560]  That'd be a big movie, no?
[05:26:48.980 --> 05:26:49.600]  Oh yeah.
[05:26:49.920 --> 05:26:50.400]  Yeah.
[05:26:50.460 --> 05:26:55.580]  Now, again, it's more of a band-aid,
because eventually it will have to shift
[05:26:55.580 --> 05:26:56.100]  back over.
[05:26:56.100 --> 05:26:59.660]  Yeah, but it's a good timing for a
band-aid.
[05:26:59.760 --> 05:27:01.180]  Yeah, great timing.
[05:27:01.420 --> 05:27:04.360]  That's half what we need right there.
[05:27:09.280 --> 05:27:11.580]  How do I line this, the year by year?
[05:27:13.220 --> 05:27:15.160]  That's only one snapshot of some of that.
[05:27:17.280 --> 05:27:18.940]  Am I explaining that wrong?
[05:27:19.660 --> 05:27:23.200]  What I'm trying to say, and I'm just using
my muscle here.
[05:27:25.320 --> 05:27:26.800]  What is the reason today?
[05:27:26.800 --> 05:27:27.220]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[05:27:27.720 --> 05:27:28.120]  441...
[05:27:36.160 --> 05:27:37.740]  They had to take the rest out of that.
[05:27:38.120 --> 05:27:39.260]  Oh, that's so cool.
[05:27:39.920 --> 05:27:41.920]  He's saying leave it in or just move this
over too.
[05:27:42.520 --> 05:27:44.300]  No, he can't move this.
[05:27:44.540 --> 05:27:45.300]  He can't move it.
[05:27:45.400 --> 05:27:47.000]  But I mean, draw it out of there.
[05:27:47.020 --> 05:27:47.740]  Yeah, draw it out.
[05:27:48.560 --> 05:27:51.260]  We were saying zero.
[05:27:51.540 --> 05:27:52.560]  He says get it out of there.
[05:27:53.100 --> 05:27:54.020]  That makes sense.
[05:27:54.700 --> 05:27:55.920]  You deserve a meeting.
[05:27:56.880 --> 05:27:58.180]  You deserve a meeting.
[05:28:03.100 --> 05:28:04.380]  Well, well, well.
[05:28:07.160 --> 05:28:08.520]  You can go ahead if you want to.
[05:28:09.360 --> 05:28:10.040]  We're ready.
[05:28:10.340 --> 05:28:10.940]  We're ready.
[05:28:11.020 --> 05:28:11.320]  I'm ready.
[05:28:11.680 --> 05:28:11.980]  We're ready.
[05:28:11.980 --> 05:28:13.000]  Any questions?
[05:28:14.920 --> 05:28:15.740]  What's your concern?
[05:28:16.100 --> 05:28:16.540]  Questions?
[05:28:16.800 --> 05:28:21.180]  So, I gave you a packet, just so you would
have it.
[05:28:21.280 --> 05:28:24.840]  Some, you could obviously do the other
ones, but some of you don't know what we
[05:28:24.840 --> 05:28:25.380]  bring in.
[05:28:25.380 --> 05:28:35.620]  And obviously it fluctuates, but this year
I think we're even going to be at 20-25,
[05:28:36.000 --> 05:28:36.720]  or 4.
[05:28:38.100 --> 05:28:43.000]  We're up to over 700 permits this year,
and last year we did 100 for the whole
[05:28:43.000 --> 05:28:43.260]  year.
[05:28:48.480 --> 05:28:53.180]  So, just wanted you to see what we've done
over the past, well since 2018.
[05:28:53.180 --> 05:29:07.400]  The second thing I'd like to note is that
in my budget, what I have proposed and
[05:29:07.400 --> 05:29:13.760]  what I requested and what was proposed by
the council is quite a bit higher.
[05:29:13.760 --> 05:29:22.420]  So, not that I'm going to ask for a big
decrease in my budget, but I think I need
[05:29:22.420 --> 05:29:25.200]  to figure out what's going on with my
part-time.
[05:29:25.340 --> 05:29:27.140]  It was put in as full-time.
[05:29:27.420 --> 05:29:30.580]  Well, when I talked to you about that,
you got miscellaneous services.
[05:29:30.680 --> 05:29:32.760]  That would stay as a part-time.
[05:29:32.980 --> 05:29:35.920]  But like miscellaneous services,
it won't say that anymore.
[05:29:36.000 --> 05:29:38.260]  It'll say part-time, part-time.
[05:29:38.260 --> 05:29:44.120]  I just need to know about my part-time
pay, which is under clerk two.
[05:29:45.820 --> 05:29:47.580]  No, yeah, clerk two.
[05:29:49.640 --> 05:29:56.320]  Is that staying part-time and what,
or is that getting put into miscellaneous
[05:29:56.320 --> 05:30:00.420]  services for, which now we call part-time?
[05:30:00.980 --> 05:30:02.300]  It'd be part-time.
[05:30:02.380 --> 05:30:07.480]  So is that amount getting put into
miscellaneous or the new part-time line
[05:30:07.480 --> 05:30:07.800]  item?
[05:30:07.800 --> 05:30:10.360]  Are you looking at the $4,508?
[05:30:10.780 --> 05:30:11.320]  Correct.
[05:30:11.640 --> 05:30:13.780]  That's not what you're paying part-time,
is it?
[05:30:16.300 --> 05:30:20.580]  I'm paying part-time $22 an hour,
which is what was approved.
[05:30:21.260 --> 05:30:26.280]  Okay, so what does that... For my office
person, I have a part-time inspector who's
[05:30:26.280 --> 05:30:26.820]  making 18.
[05:30:30.400 --> 05:30:36.560]  He is getting paid out of the
miscellaneous personal services So all
[05:30:36.560 --> 05:30:39.480]  three of those miscellaneous personal is
going to be part-time now, correct?
[05:30:39.940 --> 05:30:40.260]  No.
[05:30:40.600 --> 05:30:41.560]  That's what I'm asking.
[05:30:42.160 --> 05:30:47.940]  I mean, right now I'm paying miscellaneous
personal service as my part-time for my
[05:30:47.940 --> 05:30:48.920]  part-time inspector.
[05:30:49.360 --> 05:30:56.580]  My part-time clerk is out of line item
10421.
[05:30:59.880 --> 05:31:02.380]  Oh, it's labeled clerk on ours.
[05:31:08.240 --> 05:31:13.960]  That would be part-time, but we left it as
a full-time number.
[05:31:14.300 --> 05:31:16.680]  But that would be part-time, that stays in
part-time.
[05:31:16.680 --> 05:31:19.280]  Looks like the other one maybe is
part-time, because it's a lot less.
[05:31:19.600 --> 05:31:20.440]  You mean the 38?
[05:31:21.280 --> 05:31:23.660]  Yeah, she's not in with me very long.
[05:31:25.360 --> 05:31:26.060]  That's correct.
[05:31:28.200 --> 05:31:28.680]  Director.
[05:31:29.320 --> 05:31:30.180]  First deputy.
[05:31:31.460 --> 05:31:33.300]  I don't have a first deputy.
[05:31:33.560 --> 05:31:37.040]  I've tried to get this corrected for ten
years.
[05:31:37.080 --> 05:31:37.860]  Well, we're going to fix it.
[05:31:38.080 --> 05:31:39.120]  That's what we're here for.
[05:31:39.180 --> 05:31:43.280]  But it's still first deputy, which is
technically by clerk one.
[05:31:44.560 --> 05:31:47.440]  So, you're going to... okay, so let's slow
down a second.
[05:31:47.520 --> 05:31:48.440]  We've got the director.
[05:31:48.740 --> 05:31:52.620]  So this first deputy now is going to be
called clerk one, correct?
[05:31:53.400 --> 05:31:53.920]  Correct.
[05:31:53.920 --> 05:31:54.180]  Correct.
[05:31:55.200 --> 05:31:59.980]  At 38, 751, correct?
[05:32:00.020 --> 05:32:02.600]  Yes, that's where I sat.
[05:32:02.860 --> 05:32:07.100]  At that, Inspector, Enforcer, 47.
[05:32:07.960 --> 05:32:08.520]  Correct.
[05:32:08.840 --> 05:32:11.300]  And then the next line, Clerk,
what's that?
[05:32:11.620 --> 05:32:14.260]  Clerk 2 is part-time.
[05:32:14.460 --> 05:32:16.960]  No, let's go to the one that says Clerk
above it.
[05:32:17.840 --> 05:32:19.460]  You're eliminating that one, huh?
[05:32:22.900 --> 05:32:24.580]  It's in the budget, we can eliminate it.
[05:32:24.680 --> 05:32:26.540]  Well, I'm trying to figure out what we're
doing here.
[05:32:26.780 --> 05:32:34.360]  So, I requested $29,000 for Clerk 2,
which is 10421, and you guys proposed
[05:32:34.360 --> 05:32:36.320]  $40,000 by the way.
[05:32:36.800 --> 05:32:39.440]  But that's my part-time for...
[05:32:39.440 --> 05:32:40.480]  That's going to clerk back.
[05:32:40.560 --> 05:32:42.460]  Give me that number again for Clerk 2.
[05:32:44.180 --> 05:32:46.040]  $29,000 is what I requested.
[05:32:46.340 --> 05:32:46.640]  Even?
[05:32:46.960 --> 05:32:47.480]  Yes.
[05:32:47.600 --> 05:32:47.960]  Even.
[05:32:47.960 --> 05:32:50.280]  That's for clerk, not clerk 2.
[05:32:50.900 --> 05:32:53.360]  No, it's clerk 2 and 9.
[05:32:53.660 --> 05:32:54.820]  Ours just says clerk.
[05:32:55.180 --> 05:32:58.560]  So 10421 is the count number.
[05:33:02.220 --> 05:33:03.820]  10421 is clerk 2?
[05:33:04.080 --> 05:33:04.720]  Yes.
[05:33:04.780 --> 05:33:05.460]  Okay.
[05:33:05.880 --> 05:33:09.860]  But that one has 43, 688.
[05:33:10.280 --> 05:33:15.400]  I only requested 29,000 because that's my
part-time clerk.
[05:33:19.540 --> 05:33:20.140]  Okay.
[05:33:20.140 --> 05:33:23.180]  So the one above, that's clerked for
$29,000.
[05:33:23.180 --> 05:33:24.060]  That shouldn't even be there?
[05:33:24.400 --> 05:33:26.780]  No, $29,000 should be there.
[05:33:29.800 --> 05:33:33.360]  I had... you had two at $40,508.
[05:33:35.820 --> 05:33:37.960]  $10410 and $10421.
[05:33:38.320 --> 05:33:42.860]  The one that's... the one that is clerked
two should be $29,000.
[05:33:42.860 --> 05:33:43.220]  $29,000.
[05:33:43.600 --> 05:33:43.820]  Correct.
[05:33:44.160 --> 05:33:45.220]  Yeah, $29,000.
[05:33:45.600 --> 05:33:47.340]  But the other one should be $43,000.
[05:33:49.120 --> 05:33:51.000]  That's what she's asking for.
[05:33:51.460 --> 05:33:53.900]  So those are just backward, basically.
[05:33:55.880 --> 05:33:56.920]  Well, actually...
[05:33:56.920 --> 05:33:58.280]  They're backward.
[05:33:58.660 --> 05:34:02.140]  Well, but you were actually giving her a
full-time position with part-time,
[05:34:02.140 --> 05:34:02.340]  too.
[05:34:02.380 --> 05:34:02.840]  I see it.
[05:34:03.720 --> 05:34:04.840]  We'll want to fix that.
[05:34:08.350 --> 05:34:09.650]  Are you catching that, Matt?
[05:34:12.490 --> 05:34:14.610]  So this is what we received.
[05:34:15.650 --> 05:34:16.170]  Correct.
[05:34:18.640 --> 05:34:31.620]  And then, on the proposed, what you guys
have is the 38-751, yeah, right there.
[05:34:31.760 --> 05:34:32.500]  That's for clerk.
[05:34:33.700 --> 05:34:35.340]  Not first deputy, clerk.
[05:34:35.420 --> 05:34:37.980]  That's what she wants to change,
the first two.
[05:34:38.280 --> 05:34:39.920]  She wants to call that the first deputy.
[05:34:40.060 --> 05:34:40.440]  Right.
[05:34:41.360 --> 05:34:42.220]  That's what I thought.
[05:34:42.540 --> 05:34:45.520]  Because I technically don't have the first
deputy.
[05:34:46.280 --> 05:34:47.720]  Is there a reason behind that?
[05:34:47.800 --> 05:34:48.180]  Why is that?
[05:34:55.400 --> 05:35:02.000]  So, sorry, the clerk and clerk two
currently stay how they are, and we're
[05:35:02.000 --> 05:35:03.880]  making the first deputy another clerk?
[05:35:04.180 --> 05:35:06.940]  So there's clerk one, two, and three.
[05:35:07.060 --> 05:35:09.700]  So first deputy could be clerk one.
[05:35:14.760 --> 05:35:17.360]  Then clerk two is four, three,
six, and eight.
[05:35:17.360 --> 05:35:18.320]  Clerk two is part-time.
[05:35:18.420 --> 05:35:18.700]  Correct.
[05:35:18.880 --> 05:35:20.640]  Clerk two is the $29,000.
[05:35:27.080 --> 05:35:27.960]  Got it.
[05:35:27.960 --> 05:35:33.840]  Now, let's drop down.
[05:35:35.820 --> 05:35:39.600]  Let's drop down to miscellaneous services,
miscellaneous personal services.
[05:35:41.820 --> 05:35:42.440]  See them?
[05:35:44.000 --> 05:35:47.160]  Walk that down with me from the very first
sentence.
[05:35:47.160 --> 05:35:53.500]  I did not assign those miscellaneous under
my unsafe building fund and under my fines
[05:35:53.500 --> 05:35:53.880]  and fees.
[05:35:54.000 --> 05:35:57.240]  That was the auditor's office,
so I don't know why it was sent away.
[05:35:58.180 --> 05:35:59.680]  But I need to know what's...
[05:35:59.680 --> 05:36:00.880]  So what should it be?
[05:36:00.900 --> 05:36:03.140]  What's that 69-62, what's that for?
[05:36:06.240 --> 05:36:06.900]  Miscellaneous person.
[05:36:06.900 --> 05:36:08.020]  I'm a part-time inspector.
[05:36:09.200 --> 05:36:11.400]  That needs, okay, we'll leave it like
that.
[05:36:11.460 --> 05:36:12.840]  Just call it part-time inspector.
[05:36:14.420 --> 05:36:15.120]  You with me?
[05:36:15.120 --> 05:36:19.860]  That's why I asked if you were going to
combine the clerk part-time with my
[05:36:19.860 --> 05:36:20.400]  inspector.
[05:36:20.500 --> 05:36:21.360]  Are you keeping them separate?
[05:36:21.600 --> 05:36:22.740]  I think we should keep them separate.
[05:36:24.180 --> 05:36:26.140]  What did you start saying, Matt?
[05:36:26.760 --> 05:36:27.460]  I'm sorry.
[05:36:28.680 --> 05:36:29.720]  I know.
[05:36:30.020 --> 05:36:31.500]  First deputy, clerk one.
[05:36:31.520 --> 05:36:32.620]  We've got to wait until he catches up.
[05:36:32.940 --> 05:36:34.660]  And that's the 38th, so 51.
[05:36:35.020 --> 05:36:35.540]  Yes.
[05:36:36.820 --> 05:36:37.340]  Clerk...
[05:36:38.720 --> 05:36:39.940]  That's 45 away.
[05:36:41.860 --> 05:36:43.840]  The clerk is 45 away.
[05:36:43.840 --> 05:36:44.500]  The late should be two.
[05:36:44.640 --> 05:36:45.480]  We got it backward.
[05:36:47.500 --> 05:36:53.660]  So the clerk two, 10421, you could just
put clerk part-time if you wanted to.
[05:36:53.840 --> 05:36:54.040]  Who?
[05:36:55.080 --> 05:36:56.440]  That's the 29,000.
[05:36:56.580 --> 05:36:57.420]  Clerk two.
[05:36:59.000 --> 05:37:01.340]  So you could just put a clerk part-time.
[05:37:03.040 --> 05:37:04.680]  And these amounts...
[05:37:09.140 --> 05:37:13.340]  So we're saying this $4,508.
[05:37:27.330 --> 05:37:29.470]  I don't know why they're one and two.
[05:37:29.550 --> 05:37:31.810]  That's just how I could come up with
keeping them different.
[05:37:31.990 --> 05:37:40.390]  So, I would like actually clerk three to
be maybe office manager or that's how the
[05:37:40.390 --> 05:37:41.830]  other departments are doing it.
[05:37:42.110 --> 05:37:43.950]  You can do whatever you want.
[05:37:44.150 --> 05:37:45.710]  I mean technically she is.
[05:37:46.050 --> 05:37:47.230]  Do you want office manager?
[05:37:47.450 --> 05:37:47.910]  Yeah.
[05:37:47.910 --> 05:37:50.130]  It changed for three office manager.
[05:37:50.350 --> 05:37:51.950]  You get that?
[05:37:52.430 --> 05:37:54.150]  Which is the one I just changed?
[05:37:54.650 --> 05:37:58.230]  Uh, no, that... I'm so sorry.
[05:37:59.430 --> 05:38:13.390]  Okay, so the 4508, that would be office
manager, and then we're sure part-time
[05:38:13.390 --> 05:38:13.770]  person.
[05:38:14.590 --> 05:38:15.310]  Huh?
[05:38:15.410 --> 05:38:17.370]  Part-time is the 10421.
[05:38:32.790 --> 05:38:35.470]  You got it?
[05:38:35.570 --> 05:38:36.970]  You got that?
[05:38:37.250 --> 05:38:38.290]  We'll fix it.
[05:38:38.450 --> 05:38:44.290]  So now the first one, 11,000, the
miscellaneous personal services,
[05:38:44.510 --> 05:38:48.670]  that's 69.62 is part of Part-time
inspector.
[05:38:50.490 --> 05:38:51.870]  That's what we've got to name it.
[05:38:52.010 --> 05:38:53.170]  What's the next one down?
[05:38:53.310 --> 05:38:54.350]  Hang on a second, let's get...
[05:38:55.910 --> 05:38:56.390]  6962.
[05:38:56.910 --> 05:38:57.770]  Part-time inspector.
[05:38:58.070 --> 05:38:58.830]  6962, yep.
[05:39:00.690 --> 05:39:03.650]  It's 1-1-1-08, is the account number?
[05:39:04.910 --> 05:39:05.390]  Yeah.
[05:39:06.190 --> 05:39:06.870]  This guy?
[05:39:07.230 --> 05:39:07.710]  Yep.
[05:39:07.870 --> 05:39:09.070]  And you want to have what?
[05:39:09.430 --> 05:39:10.770]  Part-time inspector.
[05:39:14.100 --> 05:39:15.640]  We're going to get through this
eventually.
[05:39:23.980 --> 05:39:29.200]  Next one, Ms. Lansbury's services,
the 38621.
[05:39:29.460 --> 05:39:30.860]  Is that 5 or 6?
[05:39:31.020 --> 05:39:31.420]  6.
[05:39:32.800 --> 05:39:34.360]  38621, what is that?
[05:39:35.000 --> 05:39:36.260]  I have no idea.
[05:39:36.480 --> 05:39:37.380]  You don't know?
[05:39:37.980 --> 05:39:39.780]  What are you referencing 38?
[05:39:40.460 --> 05:39:41.460]  The money.
[05:39:41.620 --> 05:39:43.360]  The 27 proposed budget.
[05:39:43.480 --> 05:39:45.840]  49 budget, 49 2011.
[05:39:46.420 --> 05:39:48.000]  That's my unsafe building budget.
[05:39:52.040 --> 05:39:55.720]  I don't know why it's miscellaneous
personal service.
[05:39:55.860 --> 05:39:56.560]  Well, we'll fix it.
[05:39:56.620 --> 05:39:58.120]  We're going to fix it.
[05:39:58.320 --> 05:39:59.000]  Unsafe fund.
[05:39:59.100 --> 05:39:59.400]  Okay.
[05:39:59.720 --> 05:40:01.480]  4920 is unsafe building fund.
[05:40:01.720 --> 05:40:02.060]  Okay.
[05:40:02.800 --> 05:40:03.220]  Perfect.
[05:40:03.400 --> 05:40:06.720]  And the 7109 is my fines and fees fund.
[05:40:06.860 --> 05:40:07.800]  Both of those are...
[05:40:10.420 --> 05:40:11.380]  Fines and fees.
[05:40:11.500 --> 05:40:11.860]  Okay.
[05:40:12.040 --> 05:40:12.840]  That cleared that up.
[05:40:12.920 --> 05:40:13.540]  That was easy.
[05:40:13.680 --> 05:40:17.520]  So, what did you want to name this
miscellaneous personal service?
[05:40:17.660 --> 05:40:18.360]  What did you say it was?
[05:40:19.800 --> 05:40:20.360]  Which one?
[05:40:20.400 --> 05:40:20.900]  The second one?
[05:40:21.040 --> 05:40:22.540]  4920 is an unsafe building.
[05:40:22.920 --> 05:40:23.320]  Yeah.
[05:40:24.340 --> 05:40:25.760]  Fines and fees is the last one.
[05:40:25.760 --> 05:40:28.680]  The other one, 7109, is fines and fees.
[05:40:29.700 --> 05:40:30.100]  Yeah.
[05:40:30.400 --> 05:40:31.760]  And those are both not recurring.
[05:40:32.300 --> 05:40:33.600]  Okay, and you didn't change it?
[05:40:33.820 --> 05:40:34.080]  No.
[05:40:34.220 --> 05:40:34.580]  Okay.
[05:40:34.760 --> 05:40:35.480]  Just making sure.
[05:40:35.540 --> 05:40:36.280]  I wouldn't change it.
[05:40:36.300 --> 05:40:37.260]  No, I wouldn't change it.
[05:40:37.280 --> 05:40:38.160]  I just wanted to name it.
[05:40:38.200 --> 05:40:38.960]  Yeah, so you know what it was.
[05:40:38.960 --> 05:40:40.940]  Well, the fund is unsafe building.
[05:40:41.560 --> 05:40:43.220]  The line item description says...
[05:40:43.220 --> 05:40:46.500]  But I don't know, because somebody didn't
give me that list.
[05:40:47.620 --> 05:40:48.800]  I don't know what the funds are.
[05:40:49.580 --> 05:40:51.680]  I know now, because she just told me.
[05:40:52.860 --> 05:40:53.860]  What's the fund?
[05:40:54.320 --> 05:40:55.680]  I'm still saying that...
[05:40:56.100 --> 05:40:59.280]  I don't know why it's... I don't know why
it's...
[05:40:59.280 --> 05:41:03.240]  Yeah, all the other miscellaneous personal
services, you've changed the description.
[05:41:05.680 --> 05:41:07.820]  Are you wanting to change that
description?
[05:41:08.700 --> 05:41:10.120]  Yeah, we changed them all.
[05:41:10.320 --> 05:41:11.680]  It shouldn't be anything that says
miscellaneous.
[05:41:11.740 --> 05:41:13.220]  Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
[05:41:13.340 --> 05:41:14.720]  What do you want to change it to?
[05:41:15.740 --> 05:41:16.720]  What did you say it was?
[05:41:16.880 --> 05:41:19.960]  She's saying it's in the fund unsafe
building.
[05:41:20.140 --> 05:41:23.480]  The line item still says miscellaneous
personal service.
[05:41:23.560 --> 05:41:24.860]  I think it's clean up.
[05:41:24.940 --> 05:41:26.040]  I mean, that's what it's for.
[05:41:26.800 --> 05:41:27.780]  Yeah, clean up.
[05:41:28.060 --> 05:41:28.820]  That's good enough.
[05:41:28.980 --> 05:41:29.320]  There we go.
[05:41:30.240 --> 05:41:33.580]  There's a way, that unsafe building stuff,
we're working on trying to figure out how
[05:41:33.580 --> 05:41:34.700]  to clean that worry up.
[05:41:36.140 --> 05:41:37.620]  How could we use it?
[05:41:38.580 --> 05:41:40.820]  I don't know why this is miscellaneous.
[05:41:44.360 --> 05:41:46.200]  This is miscellaneous, we don't know.
[05:41:49.000 --> 05:41:50.200]  We got that part.
[05:41:50.360 --> 05:41:52.680]  Something else we can go into discussion.
[05:41:53.640 --> 05:41:55.660]  I'm just trying to understand how that
goes.
[05:41:55.800 --> 05:41:57.140]  So you got that money in there,
right?
[05:41:57.640 --> 05:42:00.480]  That money, which is $38,600.
[05:42:03.280 --> 05:42:03.700]  $8519.
[05:42:04.740 --> 05:42:09.060]  Does that money carry over to the next
year?
[05:42:23.700 --> 05:42:29.680]  I'm trying to figure out, what's your
question?
[05:42:30.160 --> 05:42:31.940]  Do you have money that comes into that
fund?
[05:42:32.120 --> 05:42:32.600]  I do.
[05:42:33.940 --> 05:42:36.880]  Because right now we don't have anything
projected as that.
[05:42:38.380 --> 05:42:46.040]  So the money that comes in, both of those
funds, is if we do a cleanup and put in
[05:42:46.040 --> 05:42:51.600]  all our taxes, then when that's paid,
then it gets receded into that fund.
[05:42:52.220 --> 05:42:57.140]  Fines and fees, if there's any fines that
I collect, that gets receded into the
[05:42:57.140 --> 05:42:58.320]  7109.
[05:42:59.380 --> 05:43:08.860]  Before, the council was giving me
appropriation for each one, and I assumed
[05:43:08.860 --> 05:43:15.860]  that stated that that billing didn't,
so I was told I only got to keep what was
[05:43:15.860 --> 05:43:16.820]  receded in.
[05:43:17.080 --> 05:43:18.720]  Yeah, the cash I don't think you...
[05:43:18.720 --> 05:43:20.400]  The cash I keep.
[05:43:20.620 --> 05:43:21.240]  You keep.
[05:43:21.420 --> 05:43:22.360]  The allocation I get.
[05:43:22.600 --> 05:43:23.540]  You keep, right.
[05:43:23.860 --> 05:43:24.300]  That's right.
[05:43:25.820 --> 05:43:28.260]  So that allocation would go back into the
general.
[05:43:28.400 --> 05:43:29.600]  You'd have to ask for it again.
[05:43:37.980 --> 05:43:45.100]  So, in that unsafe building through June,
it shows a little under $10,000 of
[05:43:45.100 --> 05:43:45.520]  receipts.
[05:43:45.680 --> 05:43:46.100]  Is that...
[05:43:48.160 --> 05:43:48.680]  Revenues?
[05:43:49.340 --> 05:43:53.120]  Probably, yeah, because I get,
when it comes to settlement, that's when I
[05:43:53.120 --> 05:43:54.060]  get the money for that.
[05:43:54.420 --> 05:43:54.940]  Okay.
[05:43:55.540 --> 05:44:00.120]  And then the fines and fees, I get
settlement plus any fines that I collect.
[05:44:03.760 --> 05:44:06.600]  That's about as clear as mud and then I
got to pay you for it.
[05:44:07.480 --> 05:44:09.820]  I mean, it all goes through the court
system, so...
[05:44:09.820 --> 05:44:11.260]  I wouldn't want your job, Marie.
[05:44:11.800 --> 05:44:12.760]  Bless your heart.
[05:44:13.040 --> 05:44:15.560]  Last year, was it just under $30,000?
[05:44:15.800 --> 05:44:16.680]  Does that sound right?
[05:44:16.860 --> 05:44:17.540]  That's revenue?
[05:44:18.640 --> 05:44:19.120]  Probably.
[05:44:22.300 --> 05:44:22.780]  Okay.
[05:44:30.090 --> 05:44:32.050]  About $20,000 the year before.
[05:44:37.930 --> 05:44:39.390]  I don't have anything else.
[05:44:39.410 --> 05:44:39.830]  Do you, Dave?
[05:44:40.150 --> 05:44:41.010]  No, I don't.
[05:44:41.010 --> 05:44:41.850]  I will take this.
[05:44:41.990 --> 05:44:55.100]  In that fund, in that fund, the unsafe
building, somehow, someway, we got to get
[05:44:55.100 --> 05:44:56.040]  more money in that fund.
[05:44:56.740 --> 05:44:57.760]  Because she won't know.
[05:44:57.840 --> 05:44:59.020]  She can't make it.
[05:44:59.080 --> 05:45:05.500]  So, there's some areas we can use safety
limits for that, in some ways.
[05:45:10.400 --> 05:45:16.700]  Well, that's why I was surprised it was
taken out, because when we did the
[05:45:16.700 --> 05:45:20.680]  Belleville schools, that's why we were
putting the money in there and keeping it
[05:45:20.680 --> 05:45:25.180]  in there, because we had something big
like that again that we would re-prepare,
[05:45:25.340 --> 05:45:27.260]  but then it just went out.
[05:45:27.360 --> 05:45:28.080]  Well, it would have.
[05:45:28.260 --> 05:45:29.420]  It would have.
[05:45:29.480 --> 05:45:30.300]  It just went out.
[05:45:30.600 --> 05:45:32.840]  Unless you had receipts for it.
[05:45:32.840 --> 05:45:39.860]  If we appropriate it in there,
but we know now, that has to get more
[05:45:39.860 --> 05:45:40.460]  money for this.
[05:45:40.960 --> 05:45:42.940]  I can't receive any more in it.
[05:45:43.260 --> 05:45:46.460]  Right, you can't, but we can get money,
but that means at the end of the year,
[05:45:46.520 --> 05:45:51.500]  this time of the year, and I'll talk to
Regie about it, at this time of the year,
[05:45:51.560 --> 05:45:52.760]  we've got to get some money in there.
[05:45:52.800 --> 05:45:54.060]  Will the board have to vote on it?
[05:45:54.120 --> 05:45:56.960]  But will it matter if it's going to go
back out at the end of the year?
[05:45:57.220 --> 05:45:58.500]  No, we're appropriating it for next year.
[05:45:58.540 --> 05:45:58.900]  Next year.
[05:45:59.180 --> 05:45:59.920]  Oh, yeah.
[05:46:00.380 --> 05:46:02.020]  No, it will go back out.
[05:46:02.020 --> 05:46:03.300]  We can't do anything about that.
[05:46:03.880 --> 05:46:05.520]  And you'll find it at the beginning of the
year.
[05:46:05.640 --> 05:46:06.380]  That's what we're saying.
[05:46:06.560 --> 05:46:06.760]  Yeah.
[05:46:07.080 --> 05:46:08.960]  Well we'll do it now, during the budget.
[05:46:09.140 --> 05:46:09.420]  Right.
[05:46:09.740 --> 05:46:10.620]  But you'll have it.
[05:46:10.640 --> 05:46:13.780]  But at the end of the year, you're going
to have to do it all over again,
[05:46:13.800 --> 05:46:14.480]  in your budget.
[05:46:14.720 --> 05:46:17.240]  You're going to say, hey, but we'll track
that.
[05:46:17.300 --> 05:46:18.160]  Or you track it anyway.
[05:46:18.980 --> 05:46:21.700]  Yeah, and the thing is, I don't know how
much to ask for.
[05:46:21.780 --> 05:46:22.600]  That's the problem.
[05:46:23.020 --> 05:46:24.640]  Well, we're going to come up with a
number.
[05:46:25.400 --> 05:46:26.520]  We'll come up with a number.
[05:46:26.720 --> 05:46:29.740]  But then you'll say, hey, we've got to do
this.
[05:46:29.740 --> 05:46:31.020]  You might have to come to us.
[05:46:31.540 --> 05:46:32.840]  That's what I've been doing.
[05:46:33.180 --> 05:46:36.860]  I don't think I'm in the negative right
now.
[05:46:36.940 --> 05:46:39.420]  I don't know if that $5,000 ever got put
in.
[05:46:39.580 --> 05:46:40.340]  It did.
[05:46:40.840 --> 05:46:41.420]  Yeah, it did.
[05:46:41.520 --> 05:46:42.180]  Pretty sure it did.
[05:46:43.000 --> 05:46:44.040]  We voted on it.
[05:46:44.240 --> 05:46:45.480]  She hadn't put it in the last time.
[05:46:45.560 --> 05:46:48.680]  Well, she hadn't put it in, but I'm pretty
sure she did.
[05:46:48.780 --> 05:46:50.740]  So I don't really know what happened with
it.
[05:46:50.900 --> 05:46:53.040]  Well, I think he's got it right there.
[05:46:53.080 --> 05:46:55.540]  Well, I only have the June 30.
[05:46:56.300 --> 05:46:57.300]  Well, it wasn't in there.
[05:46:57.500 --> 05:46:58.840]  It's not been put in there yet.
[05:46:58.840 --> 05:47:01.240]  And at that time, there was $11,000.
[05:47:02.600 --> 05:47:04.780]  If you're talking about the unsafe
building fund.
[05:47:05.040 --> 05:47:07.340]  Oh, I think that's what... she did put it
in there.
[05:47:08.100 --> 05:47:09.280]  Well, I'll check that and see.
[05:47:11.380 --> 05:47:13.860]  This is as of 8-7.
[05:47:14.440 --> 05:47:16.480]  This one's worked as of 8-7.
[05:47:19.390 --> 05:47:20.890]  I couldn't make her take it.
[05:47:20.990 --> 05:47:23.330]  Hey, we've got to get out of here,
Marie.
[05:47:23.810 --> 05:47:24.250]  Huh?
[05:47:24.450 --> 05:47:25.210]  Are you done?
[05:47:25.790 --> 05:47:26.550]  We'll fix it.
[05:47:26.550 --> 05:47:29.330]  So, I just want to be clear.
[05:47:29.410 --> 05:47:34.590]  The budget in unsafe building is just the
one line of $38,000.
[05:47:34.670 --> 05:47:35.210]  Is that right?
[05:47:37.330 --> 05:47:38.890]  I don't have the budget.
[05:47:39.150 --> 05:47:39.510]  I'm sorry.
[05:47:40.130 --> 05:47:43.330]  I'm so confused on those funds that...
[05:47:43.330 --> 05:47:44.650]  That's confusing.
[05:47:45.050 --> 05:47:45.990]  What was your question?
[05:47:46.430 --> 05:47:53.990]  I just want to make sure this budget of
this line item, which is still listed as
[05:47:53.990 --> 05:47:57.710]  the same budget for next year,
This year is what's in there for this
[05:47:57.710 --> 05:47:58.010]  year.
[05:47:58.970 --> 05:48:01.410]  So I'm just making sure we're leaving
it...
[05:48:01.950 --> 05:48:05.690]  because you mentioned potentially getting
more budget in there.
[05:48:05.890 --> 05:48:10.010]  Well, we need to do it now because if we
advertise this, then...
[05:48:10.010 --> 05:48:11.090]  Well, we're not going to advertise.
[05:48:11.290 --> 05:48:12.970]  We gotta figure out where... I've got to
see...
[05:48:14.090 --> 05:48:16.910]  we gotta see where the budget is... I want
to see where the budget's going to be.
[05:48:16.970 --> 05:48:18.750]  We're going to stick something in there,
but we can't do it.
[05:48:18.770 --> 05:48:20.150]  We can't make that decision right now.
[05:48:20.470 --> 05:48:20.830]  No.
[05:48:21.010 --> 05:48:22.530]  I can tell you $25,000.
[05:48:22.710 --> 05:48:23.990]  I can say that right now.
[05:48:24.130 --> 05:48:25.170]  That's what I feel.
[05:48:25.170 --> 05:48:30.330]  ...of an increase... of an increase... I'm
saying we need to at least put that in
[05:48:30.330 --> 05:48:30.750]  now...
[05:48:30.750 --> 05:48:32.290]  I'm saying $25,000...
[05:48:32.290 --> 05:48:34.770]  ...because after advertisement we can
always come back down.
[05:48:34.910 --> 05:48:35.010]  Yeah.
[05:48:35.090 --> 05:48:38.550]  Once we advertise it, we can't increase it
anymore without doing an additional...
[05:48:38.550 --> 05:48:43.930]  Well, I'm saying, at least right now,
I'm saying let's take an additional
[05:48:43.930 --> 05:48:45.190]  $25,000 in there.
[05:48:49.170 --> 05:48:52.430]  I don't want to say not to, but I want you
to think about something.
[05:48:58.210 --> 05:48:59.030]  That's where I fall.
[05:48:59.190 --> 05:48:59.710]  That's where I fall.
[05:48:59.870 --> 05:49:00.950]  That's where I fall down the term with.
[05:49:15.530 --> 05:49:16.970]  How much is in that fund?
[05:49:19.390 --> 05:49:21.410]  You said $71,009.
[05:49:24.010 --> 05:49:24.990]  There's $8,500.
[05:49:30.680 --> 05:49:34.120]  And they've spent that through June this
year.
[05:49:34.820 --> 05:49:37.120]  I gave you a copy of the current...
[05:49:37.120 --> 05:49:38.760]  So you're saying there's no money in it?
[05:49:39.220 --> 05:49:39.940]  Well, no.
[05:49:40.040 --> 05:49:40.800]  I'm not saying that.
[05:49:41.120 --> 05:49:42.620]  Well, I think I ended up...
[05:49:42.620 --> 05:49:43.360]  Actually, yeah.
[05:49:43.440 --> 05:49:46.920]  As of June 30, it was negative $3,000 of
cash.
[05:49:48.200 --> 05:49:50.560]  Well, then I think what we should do
then...
[05:49:50.560 --> 05:49:51.720]  Because you guys said...
[05:49:55.000 --> 05:49:56.400]  Okay, I see what you're saying.
[05:49:56.400 --> 05:50:01.160]  What we should do, instead of the unsafe
building, is stick it in here.
[05:50:01.480 --> 05:50:02.780]  I would split it.
[05:50:03.380 --> 05:50:04.400]  You sure you would?
[05:50:04.700 --> 05:50:08.600]  Because you're not going to demo a
building for $20,000.
[05:50:08.720 --> 05:50:12.640]  I've never paid over $5,000, $6,000 to
demo a building or a house.
[05:50:13.380 --> 05:50:14.420]  Oh wow, okay.
[05:50:14.820 --> 05:50:18.740]  So, I mean, now if we get into buildings,
that's a whole different area.
[05:50:18.740 --> 05:50:21.640]  So here's what I like to do.
[05:50:21.640 --> 05:50:29.020]  I would say the budget in 49-20,
if we just base it off of what she needed
[05:50:29.020 --> 05:50:36.160]  last year and what she's on track this
year to spend, is in the ballpark.
[05:50:38.900 --> 05:50:42.400]  And that fund is 49-20.
[05:50:42.660 --> 05:50:45.580]  So she needed 30 grand last year.
[05:50:46.100 --> 05:50:49.680]  She's on track to spend about 35 grand
this year.
[05:50:50.580 --> 05:50:54.340]  And then the request is for $539,000.
[05:50:54.760 --> 05:50:55.560]  So that's okay.
[05:50:56.260 --> 05:50:57.900]  As long as she thinks that's okay.
[05:50:58.000 --> 05:50:59.640]  I'm just saying that it seems...
[05:50:59.640 --> 05:51:01.400]  I didn't make the request, so you guys
didn't.
[05:51:01.800 --> 05:51:04.680]  It seems in the ballpark.
[05:51:04.900 --> 05:51:05.260]  I think.
[05:51:06.440 --> 05:51:13.280]  Now, the $7,109,000 is the one that maybe
is a little more concerning because the
[05:51:13.280 --> 05:51:17.480]  budget of $8,500, $8,200 was already spent
this time.
[05:51:19.820 --> 05:51:21.580]  And it doesn't really get receipts.
[05:51:22.500 --> 05:51:24.180]  It should get receipts.
[05:51:24.600 --> 05:51:25.440]  Yeah, there they are.
[05:51:28.200 --> 05:51:29.100]  And that's the other thing.
[05:51:30.060 --> 05:51:33.760]  That's where you got to stick some money
in it.
[05:51:33.840 --> 05:51:34.900]  Yeah, that's what she was saying.
[05:51:35.320 --> 05:51:36.280]  That's what he was saying.
[05:51:37.580 --> 05:51:41.140]  So I think what we do there, then all we
do is leave everything like it is.
[05:51:41.240 --> 05:51:49.040]  And in that fund, the $71,009,000 In
budget?
[05:51:50.700 --> 05:51:51.640]  Is that what you're saying?
[05:51:51.920 --> 05:51:52.140]  Yeah.
[05:51:54.300 --> 05:51:56.580]  Because if not, then for next year,
right?
[05:51:56.580 --> 05:51:57.160]  For next year.
[05:51:57.480 --> 05:51:59.000]  Because then we're just going to need
money.
[05:51:59.940 --> 05:52:08.860]  Yeah, so that we can put that budget in,
but it's spending more than what's coming
[05:52:08.860 --> 05:52:09.180]  in.
[05:52:12.300 --> 05:52:16.060]  And so, with it being a home rule fund,
I don't...
[05:52:16.660 --> 05:52:20.300]  I don't think the state will look at it,
but at the same time, a lot of times,
[05:52:20.360 --> 05:52:26.040]  if it's already negative cash and we're
projecting a bigger expense next year than
[05:52:26.040 --> 05:52:30.620]  the revenues were expected to receive in,
a lot of times they'll just cut it.
[05:52:31.640 --> 05:52:34.300]  Well, let's let them cut it then,
if that's what they want to do,
[05:52:34.380 --> 05:52:39.820]  because when you clean up something and
you go after that money, you might get
[05:52:39.820 --> 05:52:41.800]  lucky and get something, and you might own
it.
[05:52:42.320 --> 05:52:47.660]  Well, of course, the other thing that you
have to consider when you hire someone to
[05:52:47.660 --> 05:52:49.520]  do that, clean up what they have to...
[05:52:54.160 --> 05:52:56.800]  All the guys have that.
[05:52:58.300 --> 05:52:59.220]  They've got that.
[05:52:59.300 --> 05:53:00.560]  She's got that there.
[05:53:04.280 --> 05:53:05.960]  That part's all taken care of.
[05:53:06.800 --> 05:53:13.320]  I would say if you're looking at an
average, probably be on the same path as
[05:53:13.320 --> 05:53:15.440]  what we are this year and next year.
[05:53:16.440 --> 05:53:18.460]  I'm just looking at average.
[05:53:20.700 --> 05:53:25.160]  And then I'll have, you know, I know who's
what I'm going to have come in in
[05:53:25.160 --> 05:53:26.780]  settlement, but I always have some.
[05:53:27.840 --> 05:53:30.660]  And then find some pieces and set them
away.
[05:53:31.960 --> 05:53:37.920]  I was looking at what got reseeded into
that fund last year.
[05:53:38.060 --> 05:53:41.320]  I ate Mexican food.
[05:53:42.900 --> 05:53:43.900]  I had water.
[05:53:47.580 --> 05:53:51.480]  Yeah, I went ahead and put the $20,000
that you said.
[05:53:51.860 --> 05:53:52.240]  All right.
[05:53:53.740 --> 05:53:55.700]  It was $71,000.
[05:53:56.060 --> 05:53:56.420]  Yeah.
[05:53:56.860 --> 05:54:04.160]  And then, as you can tell, I reduced
pretty much every single line item except
[05:54:04.160 --> 05:54:05.460]  for label fees.
[05:54:05.980 --> 05:54:07.760]  Obviously, I needed to increase that.
[05:54:17.200 --> 05:54:22.060]  I would like
[05:54:28.220 --> 05:54:37.180]  for you to consider my office manager an
increase, and I gave you a piece of paper
[05:54:37.180 --> 05:54:43.020]  that shows that I know we can't compare
this, that, or the other, but just so you
[05:54:43.020 --> 05:54:43.840]  can get an idea.
[05:55:06.680 --> 05:55:13.260]  I wanted to look at what we proposed
though.
[05:55:13.260 --> 05:55:14.720]  So, that's what I wanted to look at.
[05:55:15.220 --> 05:55:18.400]  Well, I'm sorry to say that in ours it's
listed as third two.
[05:55:18.780 --> 05:55:19.260]  Okay.
[05:55:19.480 --> 05:55:21.040]  We made a bunch of changes.
[05:55:22.500 --> 05:55:23.780]  Not financial changes.
[05:55:23.840 --> 05:55:25.200]  So, it's under plan commission.
[05:55:25.420 --> 05:55:26.120]  I don't know what page.
[05:55:26.160 --> 05:55:28.760]  It's not under area plan, it's just under
plan commission?
[05:55:29.000 --> 05:55:30.160]  Yeah, plan commission.
[05:55:30.240 --> 05:55:32.820]  Hers is 10410.
[05:55:38.110 --> 05:55:39.630]  She's actually a third three.
[05:55:41.670 --> 05:55:42.150]  Hmm.
[05:55:42.150 --> 05:55:43.010]  No reviews.
[05:55:47.050 --> 05:55:48.990]  So, it's not under first deputy?
[05:55:49.730 --> 05:55:50.830]  I don't have it.
[05:55:50.950 --> 05:55:51.870]  Oh, okay.
[05:55:53.610 --> 05:55:56.030]  And there's a clerk too, so it's under
clerk two?
[05:55:56.270 --> 05:55:58.970]  This is the twelfth time we've done this,
I'm not even sure.
[05:55:59.410 --> 05:56:02.490]  This is under 10410.
[05:56:04.350 --> 05:56:05.290]  Okay, okay.
[05:56:05.650 --> 05:56:07.650]  Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
[05:56:07.890 --> 05:56:10.950]  And you had asked for a...
[05:56:10.950 --> 05:56:19.050]  I'm not necessarily... I'm just asking you
to consider what I gave you and give her
[05:56:19.050 --> 05:56:23.330]  an increase to be comparable to everyone
else.
[05:56:24.270 --> 05:56:29.230]  Yeah, that can't be that one because it
says you only requested $29,000.
[05:56:29.970 --> 05:56:30.810]  That's not it.
[05:56:31.090 --> 05:56:31.790]  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[05:56:31.830 --> 05:56:32.530]  That's not the right number.
[05:56:32.710 --> 05:56:33.350]  That's my part-time.
[05:56:34.370 --> 05:56:35.290]  It's a back one.
[05:56:35.470 --> 05:56:36.770]  It's a back one in there.
[05:56:36.770 --> 05:56:40.330]  On ours, on ours it's listed as 10421.
[05:56:41.350 --> 05:56:42.730]  10421, okay, that's 42.
[05:56:43.310 --> 05:56:45.050]  Okay, okay, that makes more sense.
[05:56:45.290 --> 05:56:48.290]  But your, is that the one you're
requesting at 43688?
[05:56:48.670 --> 05:56:50.190]  No, it's the 50,000.
[05:56:50.570 --> 05:56:51.310]  Maybe, no?
[05:56:51.470 --> 05:56:51.770]  No.
[05:56:51.870 --> 05:56:52.690]  38.4?
[05:56:52.870 --> 05:56:55.790]  The one I'm requesting increase is 104.5.
[05:56:56.050 --> 05:56:57.610]  Yeah, increase 11%.
[05:56:58.410 --> 05:57:05.150]  And again, I know that's not doable,
but just consider an increase for her.
[05:57:07.590 --> 05:57:11.110]  So, we're just marking that right now,
with everybody.
[05:57:11.390 --> 05:57:13.910]  So, I'm just making that indication that
we're marking that.
[05:57:14.050 --> 05:57:15.310]  Yeah, that's the only, yeah.
[05:57:15.490 --> 05:57:15.790]  Uh-huh.
[05:57:16.170 --> 05:57:19.950]  Yeah, Tina, the $29,000, that's my
part-time.
[05:57:20.150 --> 05:57:21.050]  Okay, okay.
[05:57:21.390 --> 05:57:23.750]  And I'm good at keeping that part-time.
[05:57:23.890 --> 05:57:31.030]  It's worked, so... Is that why you have it
highlighted in red?
[05:57:32.190 --> 05:57:33.370]  That's why that was on there?
[05:57:33.390 --> 05:57:35.970]  Because you're saying investigate No,
where?
[05:57:36.350 --> 05:57:37.290]  Her part-time.
[05:57:39.770 --> 05:57:40.570]  Is that red?
[05:57:40.770 --> 05:57:41.650]  I thought that was pink.
[05:57:42.330 --> 05:57:43.750]  It says investigate.
[05:57:49.580 --> 05:57:59.280]  Yeah, because when when Trevor did the
raises, the budget was $39,416.
[05:57:59.420 --> 05:58:00.880]  So he did a raise on that.
[05:58:01.700 --> 05:58:03.520]  Which added up to $29,416.
[05:58:03.520 --> 05:58:04.440]  Yeah, because it's part-time.
[05:58:04.480 --> 05:58:06.300]  So he put the high amount in there to be
safe.
[05:58:07.280 --> 05:58:08.740]  So we can take that back down.
[05:58:08.920 --> 05:58:09.560]  Which we did.
[05:58:11.080 --> 05:58:16.720]  I do agree with what Marie's saying.
[05:58:17.860 --> 05:58:20.960]  Because she's carrying a lot of load
because we went to the park on her.
[05:58:21.460 --> 05:58:27.320]  And then the other girl that's there is
new and she doesn't have the experience.
[05:58:27.600 --> 05:58:28.980]  So she's carrying a lot more than that.
[05:58:29.260 --> 05:58:30.360]  We can discuss that.
[05:58:35.200 --> 05:58:36.740]  Your park time?
[05:58:37.040 --> 05:58:38.060]  No, my full time.
[05:58:38.060 --> 05:58:39.080]  Her full-time.
[05:58:39.220 --> 05:58:40.120]  New full-time.
[05:58:40.800 --> 05:58:41.280]  Wow.
[05:58:41.900 --> 05:58:47.900]  So, I'm in a bind, and she's picking up a
lot, and everyone's passing, but...
[05:58:47.900 --> 05:58:49.580]  Yeah, I agree with that.
[05:58:49.740 --> 05:58:50.960]  But we'll talk about that.
[05:58:51.040 --> 05:58:51.240]  Right.
[05:58:51.480 --> 05:58:57.020]  I just wanted to say that my part-time is
working full-time.
[05:58:57.280 --> 05:59:00.740]  We're 15 minutes behind schedule amount,
but we got a lot cleared up.
[05:59:00.860 --> 05:59:01.400]  Thank you.
[05:59:02.120 --> 05:59:02.600]  Seriously.
[05:59:02.900 --> 05:59:04.280]  And they'll fill me in.
[05:59:09.260 --> 05:59:13.360]  Mary, as you just heard, we have plenty of
time coming back because we are 15 minutes
[05:59:13.360 --> 05:59:13.680]  behind.
[05:59:14.000 --> 05:59:15.020]  See what happens when I leave?
[05:59:15.200 --> 05:59:16.040]  They get off schedule.
[05:59:17.240 --> 05:59:18.200]  Where's animal control?
[05:59:19.960 --> 05:59:20.600]  She's here.
[05:59:21.060 --> 05:59:21.860]  No, she's not.
[05:59:22.240 --> 05:59:23.180]  She's been out there.
[05:59:25.060 --> 05:59:27.520]  Here, I've got one right here.
[05:59:28.300 --> 05:59:30.100]  Oh, I'm drinking Diet Coke.
[05:59:30.640 --> 05:59:32.700]  I only put it in there because it makes me
feel good about it.
[05:59:32.700 --> 05:59:33.200]  Hey Michelle.
[05:59:38.940 --> 05:59:39.840]  You're up to bat.
[05:59:40.420 --> 05:59:41.220]  Does that work?
[06:00:04.350 --> 06:00:11.370]  So on this paper, the first thing that
stood out to me is the standard 319 line
[06:00:11.370 --> 06:00:11.850]  item.
[06:00:11.850 --> 06:00:14.930]  That is supposed to be for my part-time
panel tech.
[06:00:15.130 --> 06:00:19.150]  I don't know why it's all of a sudden
changed to equipment on this paper.
[06:00:22.560 --> 06:00:23.760]  Give me the number again.
[06:00:24.140 --> 06:00:24.900]  It's in yellow.
[06:00:25.100 --> 06:00:25.780]  It's the one in yellow.
[06:00:25.800 --> 06:00:27.240]  The one in yellow, up top.
[06:00:28.280 --> 06:00:29.320]  That's, what is that?
[06:00:29.420 --> 06:00:31.420]  That's supposed to be my part-time panel
tech.
[06:00:32.080 --> 06:00:33.020]  Does it say it?
[06:00:33.140 --> 06:00:33.980]  It says equipment.
[06:00:34.100 --> 06:00:35.040]  It does it now.
[06:00:35.240 --> 06:00:37.660]  Well, it says it up there, unless you just
changed it.
[06:00:37.660 --> 06:00:38.660]  Well, this is your Form 1.
[06:00:38.760 --> 06:00:39.460]  Here, let me look at it.
[06:00:39.480 --> 06:00:39.920]  Is there two?
[06:00:39.920 --> 06:00:48.630]  Yes, I have a full-time panel check in
this section for if I was paid on that
[06:00:48.630 --> 06:00:49.290]  line item.
[06:00:50.830 --> 06:00:52.970]  Just scrunched out my panel check,
it's off.
[06:00:52.990 --> 06:00:53.590]  Yeah, got it.
[06:00:54.250 --> 06:00:55.130]  Oh, we got it.
[06:00:55.130 --> 06:00:56.270]  You can use the same number, though.
[06:00:57.310 --> 06:00:57.990]  Probably what?
[06:00:58.190 --> 06:00:59.090]  We'll use the same number.
[06:00:59.110 --> 06:00:59.490]  Yeah, it's always been that number.
[06:00:59.750 --> 06:01:00.030]  Yeah.
[06:01:00.230 --> 06:01:01.750]  Just change the title.
[06:01:01.930 --> 06:01:02.290]  I'm sure.
[06:01:02.570 --> 06:01:03.010]  Okay.
[06:01:03.910 --> 06:01:08.030]  Yeah, because even on this paper,
it was supposed to be changed last time
[06:01:08.030 --> 06:01:10.250]  where it says Highway Capital at the
bottom.
[06:01:10.250 --> 06:01:16.450]  It's 4101 and that is technically supposed
to be my equipment line item.
[06:01:16.630 --> 06:01:19.050]  But on here it says Highway Capital still.
[06:01:19.410 --> 06:01:19.810]  Okay.
[06:01:20.410 --> 06:01:21.810]  So that should be equipment?
[06:01:22.090 --> 06:01:22.510]  Yes.
[06:01:23.010 --> 06:01:24.810]  Okay, so this one should be equipment?
[06:01:25.170 --> 06:01:25.590]  Yes.
[06:01:27.030 --> 06:01:28.310]  What was that one?
[06:01:28.430 --> 06:01:29.950]  10-3-1-9?
[06:01:30.990 --> 06:01:32.770]  It's 4-0...
[06:01:32.770 --> 06:01:33.770]  101.
[06:01:34.090 --> 06:01:34.970]  4-0-1.
[06:01:35.110 --> 06:01:37.790]  Yeah, that's supposed to be equipment.
[06:01:40.790 --> 06:01:42.470]  The other one is part-time kennel.
[06:01:43.650 --> 06:01:44.870]  This is the part-time kennel.
[06:01:50.160 --> 06:01:52.180]  We have to go back up that part-time
kennel tag.
[06:01:52.240 --> 06:01:53.420]  We took that totally out.
[06:01:54.360 --> 06:01:54.760]  Where?
[06:01:56.580 --> 06:01:57.860]  The part-time kennel tag.
[06:01:57.920 --> 06:01:58.460]  We took that.
[06:01:58.480 --> 06:01:59.120]  We lost equipment.
[06:01:59.280 --> 06:01:59.940]  We zeroed it.
[06:02:00.360 --> 06:02:01.480]  That's your part-time help.
[06:02:02.180 --> 06:02:02.980]  What's wrong with that?
[06:02:04.300 --> 06:02:05.180]  I need it.
[06:02:06.020 --> 06:02:07.140]  I asked for $30.
[06:02:07.280 --> 06:02:08.480]  Right now it's at $27.
[06:02:11.760 --> 06:02:12.240]  Okay.
[06:02:14.380 --> 06:02:15.600]  We're going the wrong way, Michelle.
[06:02:17.880 --> 06:02:20.500]  Well, not really, because it's fed off of
that.
[06:02:21.660 --> 06:02:23.080]  We don't put those in there.
[06:02:23.580 --> 06:02:25.360]  So she needs 30 back in that.
[06:02:25.720 --> 06:02:29.220]  Yeah, it just, in the ledger, it says
Highway Capital, so...
[06:02:29.220 --> 06:02:30.520]  Yeah, I don't know.
[06:02:30.920 --> 06:02:34.100]  I think it probably has something to do
with the account number.
[06:02:34.560 --> 06:02:35.020]  Okay.
[06:02:35.520 --> 06:02:37.600]  So that Highway Capital, that's equipped.
[06:02:48.610 --> 06:02:52.570]  Now, when you say equipment, what do you
mean by equipment?
[06:02:52.930 --> 06:03:01.550]  Um, pegboards, catch holes, leashes,
traps, stuff like that.
[06:03:03.930 --> 06:03:05.670]  We zeroed that out too, didn't we?
[06:03:13.750 --> 06:03:15.730]  And you need 3,000 in there?
[06:03:19.630 --> 06:03:27.670]  Like this year, you only spent 940 for the
first six months of this year.
[06:03:30.890 --> 06:03:32.650]  So they're printing 3,000 in there.
[06:03:33.170 --> 06:03:35.410]  So we're putting three back in there on
equipment?
[06:03:35.410 --> 06:03:35.430]  Yes.
[06:03:36.090 --> 06:03:36.530]  Okay.
[06:03:36.530 --> 06:03:36.750]  Okay.
[06:03:38.330 --> 06:03:39.430]  What's your next concern?
[06:03:41.170 --> 06:03:41.890]  Well, I...
[06:03:42.830 --> 06:03:44.670]  Do we put the CamelTech back in?
[06:03:44.970 --> 06:03:45.230]  Yeah.
[06:03:45.570 --> 06:03:46.970]  Okay, for the...
[06:03:46.970 --> 06:03:48.870]  For the $30,000?
[06:03:49.070 --> 06:03:50.870]  She has two part-time that she pays out of
that.
[06:03:51.030 --> 06:03:52.950]  Yeah, but we're going for the full
$30,000?
[06:03:55.590 --> 06:03:55.950]  No.
[06:03:57.090 --> 06:03:57.910]  That's what was requested.
[06:03:58.310 --> 06:03:59.350]  No, that's what she requested.
[06:03:59.690 --> 06:04:00.930]  That's why I said what she requested.
[06:04:00.930 --> 06:04:01.730]  What are we going to put in there?
[06:04:01.830 --> 06:04:03.970]  We're going to put in there whatever it
was last year.
[06:04:05.210 --> 06:04:07.130]  27 plus 1.5.
[06:04:07.330 --> 06:04:08.410]  Well, hold on.
[06:04:08.570 --> 06:04:09.770]  1.5.
[06:04:13.170 --> 06:04:14.210]  That's a good question.
[06:04:14.410 --> 06:04:17.610]  That's something we haven't really
discussed, especially on part-time
[06:04:17.610 --> 06:04:17.930]  employees.
[06:04:18.730 --> 06:04:19.610]  Part-time employees.
[06:04:20.450 --> 06:04:23.630]  All part-time employees are supposed to be
$18 across the board.
[06:04:23.830 --> 06:04:24.310]  Up to.
[06:04:25.130 --> 06:04:25.710]  Up to.
[06:04:25.890 --> 06:04:26.830]  But it's not like that.
[06:04:26.870 --> 06:04:27.790]  Anyway, back to what I said.
[06:04:28.170 --> 06:04:28.770]  Up to.
[06:04:29.090 --> 06:04:29.610]  It's not.
[06:04:38.640 --> 06:04:41.260]  We could put 27 back in here for now then.
[06:04:42.040 --> 06:04:42.760]  Hold on.
[06:04:45.650 --> 06:04:52.030]  Yeah, so when it went up to 18 an hour,
I had my partner, my full-time kennel
[06:04:52.030 --> 06:04:53.170]  tech, she was making 15.
[06:04:53.650 --> 06:04:58.710]  So she was automatically moved up to 18
just whenever this change happened.
[06:04:58.710 --> 06:05:04.130]  And then at the beginning of this year,
she then also jumped up even more to
[06:05:04.130 --> 06:05:05.030]  $19.25.
[06:05:07.410 --> 06:05:10.530]  You guys gave her another raise,
so I don't think she needs a raise this
[06:05:10.530 --> 06:05:10.790]  year.
[06:05:11.250 --> 06:05:12.930]  But that's up to you.
[06:05:13.750 --> 06:05:19.930]  Even though the budget says $19 something,
you can pay up to that.
[06:05:20.370 --> 06:05:22.190]  But it doesn't mean you have to pay that.
[06:05:22.910 --> 06:05:25.290]  You can say, I'm keeping you at $18.
[06:05:29.410 --> 06:05:31.630]  You can't use that money for something
else.
[06:05:32.010 --> 06:05:34.010]  You just leave that and it goes back.
[06:05:34.690 --> 06:05:35.890]  I just want to make that clarification.
[06:05:35.970 --> 06:05:36.790]  I have a question.
[06:05:37.330 --> 06:05:38.790]  This is a big topic.
[06:05:39.110 --> 06:05:41.070]  A really big topic.
[06:05:41.610 --> 06:05:45.250]  So if you... here's what happens.
[06:05:45.370 --> 06:05:49.670]  So if you give everybody a raise on
part-time, one and a half, and she's
[06:05:49.670 --> 06:05:51.950]  paying her part-time, our rules are 18.
[06:05:53.130 --> 06:05:54.990]  Now you're moving to $19 something.
[06:05:55.690 --> 06:05:59.450]  She's paying $18 and that guy's paying
$19.
[06:05:59.750 --> 06:06:02.870]  So then you're saying $18 and that's out
the window.
[06:06:02.950 --> 06:06:03.730]  That's not what it is.
[06:06:03.910 --> 06:06:09.530]  And then, in the county, if you dig in and
look at the county, we've got some
[06:06:09.530 --> 06:06:13.110]  part-time employees making $27 an hour.
[06:06:13.350 --> 06:06:17.670]  So, it's all over the board again.
[06:06:38.590 --> 06:06:40.050]  Well, that's what I'm saying.
[06:06:40.130 --> 06:06:43.790]  She did that because that's what was
happening throughout the county.
[06:06:44.990 --> 06:06:49.610]  Well, I think she did that because the one
that she was going to, she was going down
[06:06:49.610 --> 06:06:50.970]  from full-time to part-time.
[06:06:51.210 --> 06:06:52.310]  And we did that.
[06:06:52.370 --> 06:06:53.170]  That's what I'm saying.
[06:06:53.270 --> 06:06:55.170]  But it doesn't make any difference.
[06:06:55.270 --> 06:07:01.170]  I'm saying that the policy, the policy
says $18 an hour across the board for
[06:07:01.170 --> 06:07:01.770]  part-time.
[06:07:02.270 --> 06:07:05.470]  But that's not factual because it's all
over the board.
[06:07:05.730 --> 06:07:08.190]  Well, yeah, but you have to pay for their
experience.
[06:07:08.710 --> 06:07:09.770]  Forget all that.
[06:07:10.070 --> 06:07:12.290]  I'm not... I don't care about any of that.
[06:07:12.590 --> 06:07:14.170]  I care about the pause.
[06:07:14.270 --> 06:07:14.750]  What it says.
[06:07:14.950 --> 06:07:17.290]  Well, then we've got to send him... you've
got to...
[06:07:18.230 --> 06:07:21.770]  It needs to be... part-time can be up to
$50 an hour depending on their appearance
[06:07:21.770 --> 06:07:22.230]  then.
[06:07:22.450 --> 06:07:24.550]  If you say that, yeah.
[06:07:24.790 --> 06:07:26.330]  Yeah, because that's what they're doing
now.
[06:07:27.270 --> 06:07:29.010]  You know, they're paying part-time.
[06:07:29.010 --> 06:07:31.110]  But what you said is absolutely correct.
[06:07:31.490 --> 06:07:32.010]  Yeah, I agree.
[06:07:32.010 --> 06:07:37.610]  There's other people maybe more than 18
that there's no way they work here
[06:07:37.610 --> 06:07:38.090]  part-time.
[06:07:38.710 --> 06:07:40.510]  Our policy says they can't.
[06:07:44.190 --> 06:07:45.810]  So that's another discussion.
[06:07:45.930 --> 06:07:47.050]  Alright, then we have talking.
[06:07:47.470 --> 06:07:51.210]  I also want to point out, so I've been
here for 14 and a half years.
[06:07:51.750 --> 06:07:56.850]  I am still the lowest paid department head
throughout the county.
[06:07:59.110 --> 06:08:02.010]  And that's why we asked for 54,000.
[06:08:02.610 --> 06:08:06.010]  And it's still not going to come close to
what all the other department heads
[06:08:14.910 --> 06:08:17.470]  Can I address that real quick?
[06:08:17.690 --> 06:08:22.190]  So that is not true that all department
heads are making $54,000.
[06:08:22.190 --> 06:08:27.750]  The elected officials were making $54,000,
but we have several areas that are not
[06:08:27.750 --> 06:08:30.930]  elected officials that are department
heads, like yours, like area plan,
[06:08:31.210 --> 06:08:32.710]  different ones.
[06:08:32.810 --> 06:08:40.270]  So it was not every department We brought
all elected officials to 54,000.
[06:08:40.330 --> 06:08:41.610]  Not every department head.
[06:08:41.770 --> 06:08:42.370]  Not every.
[06:08:42.570 --> 06:08:44.150]  Because you have a separate board.
[06:08:44.530 --> 06:08:46.170]  Area Plan has a separate board.
[06:08:46.810 --> 06:08:48.410]  Soil and Water has a separate board.
[06:08:49.270 --> 06:08:51.330]  We are the board for the elected
officials.
[06:08:51.530 --> 06:08:52.150]  The commissioners are.
[06:08:52.310 --> 06:08:53.150]  And the council.
[06:08:53.530 --> 06:08:54.930]  They don't have a separate board.
[06:08:55.170 --> 06:08:56.650]  We brought all of those up.
[06:08:56.730 --> 06:08:57.770]  I just wanted to make that clarification.
[06:08:58.210 --> 06:08:59.730]  But we also came back.
[06:09:00.030 --> 06:09:00.670]  We did.
[06:09:00.870 --> 06:09:01.910]  And brought up others.
[06:09:02.910 --> 06:09:04.370]  I'm not saying that we haven't.
[06:09:04.390 --> 06:09:08.710]  I'm just saying that that is why there was
a difference.
[06:09:09.750 --> 06:09:12.070]  It's because we didn't say all department
heads.
[06:09:12.170 --> 06:09:14.770]  We said we're taking all elected officials
across the board.
[06:09:14.990 --> 06:09:19.130]  We didn't take all elected officials after
50,000.
[06:09:19.350 --> 06:09:19.970]  Yeah, we did.
[06:09:20.570 --> 06:09:22.130]  Yes, we did.
[06:09:23.110 --> 06:09:25.130]  I can think of two right off, but it
wasn't.
[06:09:27.450 --> 06:09:29.190]  So that didn't all go to 50,000.
[06:09:29.210 --> 06:09:30.050]  You're right, you're right.
[06:09:30.050 --> 06:09:30.270]  You're right.
[06:09:30.290 --> 06:09:30.790]  You're right.
[06:09:30.830 --> 06:09:31.150]  You're right.
[06:09:31.430 --> 06:09:32.330]  You're right.
[06:09:33.070 --> 06:09:34.870]  So I don't want to get in trouble on that,
so...
[06:09:34.870 --> 06:09:35.130]  Yeah.
[06:09:35.370 --> 06:09:36.290]  You brought that up.
[06:09:36.290 --> 06:09:36.890]  And it's your record.
[06:09:37.490 --> 06:09:38.030]  Don't say that.
[06:09:38.230 --> 06:09:38.570]  No.
[06:09:40.330 --> 06:09:41.310]  He's way overpaid.
[06:09:41.350 --> 06:09:41.630]  Yeah.
[06:09:41.710 --> 06:09:43.750]  I guess, okay, a thousand bucks.
[06:09:43.930 --> 06:09:46.170]  But that was the reason why.
[06:09:46.370 --> 06:09:47.110]  But here's the thing.
[06:09:47.190 --> 06:09:47.430]  I agree.
[06:09:47.510 --> 06:09:50.310]  What she's saying, she brought up a good,
she brought up some really good points.
[06:09:50.770 --> 06:09:53.230]  Something we have to discuss and we have
to do this pretty quick.
[06:09:53.850 --> 06:09:58.070]  And the same with elected officials being
the same amount and unelected officials
[06:09:58.070 --> 06:09:58.750]  being part of it.
[06:09:58.750 --> 06:10:02.710]  How did we... that's why we make the big
money.
[06:10:02.850 --> 06:10:03.030]  We did.
[06:10:03.450 --> 06:10:04.890]  Is that why?
[06:10:05.110 --> 06:10:05.530]  That's it.
[06:10:05.730 --> 06:10:06.730]  To make the tough decisions.
[06:10:07.130 --> 06:10:07.990]  Less than a thousand dollars.
[06:10:08.010 --> 06:10:08.370]  Okay, what else?
[06:10:09.110 --> 06:10:13.790]  Well, so just, we're trying to clean up
the budget and kind of condense things,
[06:10:14.170 --> 06:10:18.210]  especially like our laundry, cleaning,
toiletry, and then we have other supplies.
[06:10:18.590 --> 06:10:23.470]  We were going to group that together,
and it's money that we use.
[06:10:23.650 --> 06:10:26.610]  I mean, towards the end of the year,
we completely run out of that.
[06:10:26.610 --> 06:10:31.850]  And then, you know, my board tries to
reach out and get donations and things
[06:10:31.850 --> 06:10:32.250]  like that.
[06:10:32.370 --> 06:10:36.810]  But, I mean, it's food, it's cleaning,
it's all the things that we need in the
[06:10:36.810 --> 06:10:38.510]  shelter for the animals, so...
[06:10:38.510 --> 06:10:40.030]  Is that what you're saying, the other
supplies?
[06:10:40.350 --> 06:10:40.970]  Is that what you're saying?
[06:10:41.050 --> 06:10:43.890]  Yeah, so the laundry and the other
supplies.
[06:10:45.450 --> 06:10:50.650]  The laundry is $3,500 and the other
supplies is $3,000.
[06:10:50.650 --> 06:10:57.890]  We condensed it, but also raised it to
eight.
[06:10:59.070 --> 06:11:03.710]  Because it is something we use and we run
out of towards the end of the year.
[06:11:04.050 --> 06:11:06.550]  Okay, so you have laundry.
[06:11:06.810 --> 06:11:08.870]  You brought that to $4,500.
[06:11:09.310 --> 06:11:10.630]  They requested...
[06:11:11.770 --> 06:11:12.470]  Requested eight.
[06:11:12.790 --> 06:11:13.550]  Requested eight.
[06:11:14.170 --> 06:11:14.690]  No.
[06:11:24.110 --> 06:11:27.410]  So you're saying we can eliminate that
other supplies.
[06:11:27.970 --> 06:11:31.170]  But put the money in the other line items.
[06:11:33.970 --> 06:11:35.950]  Why wouldn't you just call that...
[06:11:37.870 --> 06:11:38.570]  Okay.
[06:11:40.450 --> 06:11:42.610]  I don't think we changed that.
[06:11:43.370 --> 06:11:47.250]  Well, I don't know what... We just,
we didn't find other supplies though.
[06:11:47.330 --> 06:11:48.150]  We didn't find other supplies.
[06:11:48.450 --> 06:11:48.890]  At all, see.
[06:11:54.640 --> 06:11:56.120]  Yeah, so we were going to condense those.
[06:11:56.120 --> 06:11:57.120]  But she didn't request them.
[06:11:58.620 --> 06:11:59.420]  Well, right.
[06:11:59.580 --> 06:12:04.920]  So I made it a zero, but I made the
laundry, toiletries line item $8,000.
[06:12:05.300 --> 06:12:06.280]  Okay, I got you.
[06:12:06.520 --> 06:12:08.800]  Again, what I'm saying, you just eliminate
that line.
[06:12:08.820 --> 06:12:09.340]  Forget it.
[06:12:09.560 --> 06:12:10.080]  You're good.
[06:12:10.080 --> 06:12:10.600]  Okay.
[06:12:12.560 --> 06:12:17.000]  You were saying something earlier to me
about building and repair.
[06:12:17.460 --> 06:12:18.240]  Yeah, here's one.
[06:12:18.400 --> 06:12:19.880]  Okay, so, yes.
[06:12:22.520 --> 06:12:24.260]  Yes, building... where did I see that at?
[06:12:24.460 --> 06:12:25.360]  Office and department.
[06:12:25.980 --> 06:12:27.240]  Building and repairs.
[06:12:27.960 --> 06:12:33.400]  That, the reason I wanted to take that
out, is I think that should go in the
[06:12:33.400 --> 06:12:33.640]  bond.
[06:12:34.740 --> 06:12:37.140]  But it's not always capital.
[06:12:37.500 --> 06:12:41.860]  It is Is coil washing for our air
conditioner.
[06:12:43.060 --> 06:12:46.660]  A capacitor goes out in our air
conditioner.
[06:12:46.840 --> 06:12:47.900]  Would that not be office improvement
maintenance?
[06:12:48.600 --> 06:12:51.000]  Yeah, that would be office improvement
maintenance.
[06:12:51.300 --> 06:12:54.740]  So I don't know... there's nothing in
there for that.
[06:12:54.740 --> 06:13:01.780]  Well, the maintenance is like whereabouts
we would rent a printer and pay that
[06:13:01.780 --> 06:13:04.580]  monthly and ink and paper and like that.
[06:13:04.620 --> 06:13:06.140]  That should be in contractual services.
[06:13:06.140 --> 06:13:09.000]  That should be under contractual services.
[06:13:09.800 --> 06:13:10.900]  Do they have that?
[06:13:11.040 --> 06:13:11.920]  We don't have that.
[06:13:11.940 --> 06:13:12.760]  They don't have that line.
[06:13:19.420 --> 06:13:24.420]  But yeah, I mean like it's not the
building part, it's not like big stuff.
[06:13:24.960 --> 06:13:25.920]  That's what it says.
[06:13:26.800 --> 06:13:27.320]  It's...
[06:13:27.860 --> 06:13:31.980]  It should say building repairs and I
guess...
[06:13:31.980 --> 06:13:33.740]  Or just building maintenance.
[06:13:35.240 --> 06:13:39.440]  Yeah, I mean it does say building and
repair, but it's basically repair.
[06:13:40.560 --> 06:13:45.300]  What I'm saying is, you guys right now in
that capital, I'm talking to the
[06:13:45.300 --> 06:13:47.100]  commissioner, you've got a chunk of money
in there.
[06:13:47.440 --> 06:13:52.680]  So the time you do use that money,
I think Fox is going to do a walk-through
[06:13:52.680 --> 06:13:53.420]  and they're going to...
[06:13:53.420 --> 06:13:57.420]  I know, but we're going to replace our
shed and get a bigger one.
[06:13:58.180 --> 06:14:04.200]  But I'm talking about inside the building,
like the air conditioner work and the
[06:14:04.200 --> 06:14:05.460]  exhaust fans.
[06:14:26.940 --> 06:14:29.300]  So she's going to need a line item for
that printer.
[06:14:30.200 --> 06:14:32.760]  Because they're going to have a
contractual... they have a contractual
[06:14:32.760 --> 06:14:33.640]  service of a monthly
[06:14:44.140 --> 06:14:49.200]  Yeah, and then motor vehicle, that was
dropped down too, but we have two trucks.
[06:14:50.740 --> 06:14:55.660]  Maintenance on that, tires on that,
I mean that's 500% going to cover any of
[06:14:55.660 --> 06:14:55.860]  that.
[06:15:22.200 --> 06:15:23.200]  Let's do one at a time.
[06:15:23.200 --> 06:15:24.080]  We're going to put the printer at.
[06:15:24.280 --> 06:15:25.580]  Let's figure that one out.
[06:15:25.600 --> 06:15:26.800]  Then the tires and all that stuff.
[06:15:27.060 --> 06:15:28.000]  Well motor vehicle.
[06:15:30.380 --> 06:15:31.500]  She's got that under.
[06:15:33.340 --> 06:15:36.580]  She asked for $2,500 and you took it to
$500.
[06:15:37.360 --> 06:15:39.620]  She said that won't even cover her tires,
which it won't.
[06:15:50.890 --> 06:15:53.530]  Well, no, it's not.
[06:15:53.750 --> 06:15:58.290]  The department requested $500 over of what
they were last year.
[06:15:58.450 --> 06:16:02.710]  So you guys put in the budget $2,500 for
tires.
[06:16:03.650 --> 06:16:04.910]  Oh, I looked at the wrong line.
[06:16:05.010 --> 06:16:05.530]  Yeah, I'm sorry.
[06:16:06.050 --> 06:16:07.290]  I looked at the wrong line.
[06:16:07.370 --> 06:16:07.610]  My bad.
[06:16:07.610 --> 06:16:10.330]  So you've got $2,500.
[06:16:10.690 --> 06:16:12.310]  You've got $2,500 in that budget.
[06:16:12.650 --> 06:16:15.390]  You see that, Michelle?
[06:16:15.710 --> 06:16:18.910]  The $500 is just what you requested over.
[06:16:19.350 --> 06:16:25.650]  And so if you go to the 2027 proposed
council budget, they budgeted $2,500 for
[06:16:25.650 --> 06:16:25.930]  that.
[06:16:26.490 --> 06:16:29.590]  Which was an increase of $500 from last
year.
[06:16:31.250 --> 06:16:33.550]  So $2,500 should be okay on that.
[06:16:33.550 --> 06:16:38.770]  Then, office improvement maintenance,
they didn't allot anything.
[06:16:40.770 --> 06:16:46.990]  And then building repair, you asked for
$6,000, which was $1,000 over from last
[06:16:46.990 --> 06:16:49.710]  year, and they did not budget for
anything.
[06:16:49.870 --> 06:16:53.830]  You have to budget for something in that,
because they're going to have maintenance
[06:16:53.830 --> 06:16:55.810]  on that copier.
[06:16:55.810 --> 06:16:56.750]  I get that.
[06:16:57.550 --> 06:17:04.330]  When you say building and repair,
I'm looking at the building.
[06:17:04.650 --> 06:17:06.890]  Okay, so let's change that.
[06:17:06.950 --> 06:17:09.810]  Building and repair to...
[06:17:14.270 --> 06:17:16.030]  If you change that, what's she going to
do?
[06:17:16.030 --> 06:17:17.650]  The furnace quits or the air conditioner
quits?
[06:17:17.710 --> 06:17:18.310]  Where's that going to come from?
[06:17:19.130 --> 06:17:20.550]  They're doing a capital project.
[06:17:20.610 --> 06:17:21.530]  They're doing a capital project.
[06:17:21.850 --> 06:17:23.330]  When would that come into it though?
[06:17:23.370 --> 06:17:24.350]  They've got the money right now.
[06:17:24.470 --> 06:17:25.670]  All they've got to do is get it done.
[06:17:25.670 --> 06:17:26.670]  Well, I put in maintenance.
[06:17:27.230 --> 06:17:28.750]  All heating comes twice a year.
[06:17:29.750 --> 06:17:31.110]  That's a contractual service.
[06:17:31.350 --> 06:17:32.210]  That's a contractual service.
[06:17:32.230 --> 06:17:32.770]  What's that number?
[06:17:32.790 --> 06:17:34.070]  So I don't have a line item for that.
[06:17:34.270 --> 06:17:37.070]  Right, and she'll need the same line item
for the copier.
[06:17:37.410 --> 06:17:38.390]  How much is that?
[06:17:40.430 --> 06:17:49.510]  Um, so the first... the initial payment is
going to be $600 and then $80... $85?
[06:17:51.720 --> 06:17:52.760]  So take that...
[06:17:52.760 --> 06:17:53.180]  $1400.
[06:17:53.180 --> 06:17:53.860]  Okay.
[06:17:54.100 --> 06:17:56.520]  And then all heating is...
[06:17:57.100 --> 06:17:58.800]  All heating for a couple of times.
[06:17:58.920 --> 06:18:01.360]  I mean all they're going to do is change
filters.
[06:18:03.000 --> 06:18:03.520]  Sometimes.
[06:18:03.720 --> 06:18:06.180]  I mean with the new AC...
[06:18:06.180 --> 06:18:08.480]  We'll still change filters a couple of
times a year.
[06:18:08.760 --> 06:18:13.600]  And what else do you have done out there
that you can think of?
[06:18:13.680 --> 06:18:15.500]  So we want to change that to contractual
services.
[06:18:16.120 --> 06:18:19.220]  So building repairs coming out.
[06:18:19.760 --> 06:18:21.200]  Building repairs is coming off.
[06:18:21.240 --> 06:18:21.760]  Contractual.
[06:18:22.180 --> 06:18:25.900]  And put that contractual, which is where
your copier will come be paid out of,
[06:18:26.020 --> 06:18:28.000]  and you're all getting twice a year.
[06:18:28.160 --> 06:18:31.600]  Can you think of anything else that you
guys maintenance out there, like a...
[06:18:31.600 --> 06:18:33.860]  anything else you contract with?
[06:18:33.980 --> 06:18:35.460]  Like an ADT or a...
[06:18:35.460 --> 06:18:36.880]  No, not like that.
[06:18:36.980 --> 06:18:39.100]  Well, we have to have to go out and we
pay...
[06:18:39.460 --> 06:18:40.240]  Well, here's what we'll do.
[06:18:40.300 --> 06:18:41.100]  We'll drop that debt.
[06:18:41.220 --> 06:18:42.320]  We took out $6,000.
[06:18:42.900 --> 06:18:44.800]  We'll put $2,500 back in there.
[06:18:45.260 --> 06:18:47.480]  If you run into an issue, come and see us.
[06:18:49.360 --> 06:18:51.500]  Okay, so we're putting $2,500 back in.
[06:18:51.980 --> 06:18:57.060]  Now, keep in mind, the only thing you can
do out of contractual service is like a
[06:18:57.060 --> 06:18:59.200]  contract, so it wouldn't be anything else.
[06:19:00.520 --> 06:19:05.280]  That would need to come out of
improvement, maintenance, something like
[06:19:05.280 --> 06:19:05.540]  that.
[06:19:06.360 --> 06:19:08.740]  Oh, are we going to do anything with
laundry and cleaning up?
[06:19:08.780 --> 06:19:10.460]  She said that she needed...
[06:19:10.460 --> 06:19:11.540]  She wanted to combine those.
[06:19:11.660 --> 06:19:11.920]  Yeah.
[06:19:11.920 --> 06:19:12.800]  She sure did ask.
[06:19:12.920 --> 06:19:15.040]  No, see, but combining those...
[06:19:15.040 --> 06:19:17.540]  But we didn't budget anything for that.
[06:19:17.540 --> 06:19:18.380]  No, we just cut the...
[06:19:18.380 --> 06:19:18.860]  There's already a budget.
[06:19:19.060 --> 06:19:20.040]  She's already done it.
[06:19:21.380 --> 06:19:23.400]  Is 8 going to cover all that, though?
[06:19:23.400 --> 06:19:24.620]  Well, yeah, she tied them both together.
[06:19:24.960 --> 06:19:25.940]  She just said that.
[06:19:26.140 --> 06:19:28.340]  Yeah, but she said she's going to be a
shortfall this year already.
[06:19:28.540 --> 06:19:31.360]  Well, if it stays at the $8,000...
[06:19:31.360 --> 06:19:32.340]  She's good there.
[06:19:32.520 --> 06:19:33.320]  ...then we'll make it work.
[06:19:33.380 --> 06:19:33.900]  You'll be okay.
[06:19:34.000 --> 06:19:34.420]  All right.
[06:19:34.880 --> 06:19:36.560]  I didn't hear you say you'd make that
work.
[06:19:36.620 --> 06:19:36.980]  I'm sorry.
[06:19:37.100 --> 06:19:37.800]  Okay, I'm good.
[06:19:38.060 --> 06:19:40.140]  We're going to take that line out as other
supplies.
[06:19:40.300 --> 06:19:41.460]  Yeah, I marked that out.
[06:19:41.660 --> 06:19:42.860]  So we got that.
[06:19:42.920 --> 06:19:44.060]  We took out other supplies.
[06:19:44.320 --> 06:19:47.660]  We changed building and repair to
contractual services.
[06:19:48.480 --> 06:19:50.620]  We took highway capital to equipment.
[06:19:51.020 --> 06:19:51.500]  Yep.
[06:19:51.580 --> 06:19:53.740]  We're leaving the office improvement and
maintenance.
[06:19:55.520 --> 06:19:58.300]  And we put $2,500 in there.
[06:19:58.920 --> 06:20:01.240]  What about the second kennel check?
[06:20:01.500 --> 06:20:06.400]  The second kennel check is we took
equipment out and put part-time kennel
[06:20:06.400 --> 06:20:06.520]  checks.
[06:20:06.680 --> 06:20:10.180]  So part-time kennel checks, she's got two,
but it's going to be all paid out of that
[06:20:10.180 --> 06:20:10.660]  same line.
[06:20:10.900 --> 06:20:13.980]  Two different part-time people,
but they'll be paid out of that line.
[06:20:13.980 --> 06:20:18.260]  So this year it's at $27,000 and that's
where we were.
[06:20:20.460 --> 06:20:23.380]  Tina, did we put anything in the office
improvement maintenance?
[06:20:24.400 --> 06:20:26.160]  Because we didn't put any money in that.
[06:20:28.480 --> 06:20:31.260]  I know we did building repair and made it
contractual.
[06:20:31.340 --> 06:20:34.060]  Office improvement maintenance,
that would be what we're paying,
[06:20:36.560 --> 06:20:37.260]  office improvement.
[06:20:37.920 --> 06:20:39.180]  Unless you don't buy furniture.
[06:20:40.840 --> 06:20:42.200]  Yeah, we don't have anything in there.
[06:20:42.340 --> 06:20:43.240]  Yeah, there's nothing in there.
[06:20:43.240 --> 06:20:44.220]  No, we don't need anything.
[06:20:44.460 --> 06:20:45.300]  We don't need anything.
[06:20:45.300 --> 06:20:47.600]  She needs a new couch or something.
[06:20:47.720 --> 06:20:48.020]  Come see me.
[06:20:48.120 --> 06:20:48.980]  Yeah, a bed.
[06:20:49.340 --> 06:20:50.740]  Yeah, whatever you need.
[06:20:51.100 --> 06:20:52.640]  Okay, so we're good on that one.
[06:20:52.720 --> 06:20:52.920]  Okay.
[06:20:55.160 --> 06:20:55.600]  Okay.
[06:20:55.700 --> 06:20:56.140]  Perfect.
[06:20:56.540 --> 06:20:57.020]  I think we're good.
[06:20:57.200 --> 06:20:57.760]  Thank you, Michelle.
[06:20:58.060 --> 06:20:58.820]  Yeah, you're welcome.
[06:20:58.900 --> 06:20:59.540]  Appreciate it.
[06:20:59.660 --> 06:21:00.360]  Thanks, Michelle.
[06:21:04.280 --> 06:21:05.240]  Yeah, that's it.
[06:21:05.580 --> 06:21:06.160]  That's it.
[06:21:06.800 --> 06:21:09.120]  You see how far you got behind with me
gone?
[06:21:09.420 --> 06:21:09.860]  Age five.
[06:21:10.580 --> 06:21:11.180]  Mm-hmm.
[06:21:11.220 --> 06:21:12.360]  You were ahead.
[06:21:12.860 --> 06:21:13.700]  We were ahead.
[06:21:13.720 --> 06:21:14.640]  When I left, you were.
[06:21:14.640 --> 06:21:14.860]  We were.
[06:21:14.880 --> 06:21:15.800]  We were way ahead.
[06:21:16.560 --> 06:21:17.440]  It's 2 o'clock.
[06:21:18.120 --> 06:21:18.720]  Recorder's next.
[06:21:20.260 --> 06:21:21.420]  Yes, let's get it, Mary.
[06:21:22.380 --> 06:21:24.340]  Well, you don't have anything.
[06:21:24.780 --> 06:21:25.160]  That's right.
[06:21:25.380 --> 06:21:30.380]  Our talk today, they said the... I noticed
on my... I couldn't say colors,
[06:21:30.420 --> 06:21:31.140]  but I could read it.
[06:21:31.200 --> 06:21:31.860]  It's going to be pretty.
[06:21:32.960 --> 06:21:34.200]  I don't know what they have on my side.
[06:21:35.940 --> 06:21:40.520]  And the only thing they said that's
interesting about my budget that came back
[06:21:40.520 --> 06:21:42.800]  to me is that yellow line when you talked
about it
[06:21:46.840 --> 06:21:50.480]  Okay, let me look at it here.
[06:21:51.920 --> 06:21:52.400]  Okay.
[06:21:53.140 --> 06:21:53.780]  We good?
[06:21:54.220 --> 06:21:55.300]  I think we are.
[06:21:55.400 --> 06:21:57.600]  Thank you.
[06:21:59.180 --> 06:21:59.660]  Okay.
[06:22:00.860 --> 06:22:01.680]  Soil and water.
[06:22:17.760 --> 06:22:20.060]  I don't see anything highlighted on hers.
[06:22:22.660 --> 06:22:23.420]  On what?
[06:22:23.740 --> 06:22:24.560]  On soil and water.
[06:22:24.580 --> 06:22:25.100]  There's no highlight.
[06:22:25.340 --> 06:22:29.900]  She didn't have any miscellaneous and no
meeting notes on that.
[06:22:29.900 --> 06:22:36.060]  I think the only thing on that one was the
discussion, again, back to the director
[06:22:36.060 --> 06:22:38.460]  pay, but we just talked about that
earlier.
[06:22:39.460 --> 06:22:43.540]  And we're going to have to talk about it
more, not just for you, but other
[06:22:43.540 --> 06:22:44.020]  departments.
[06:22:44.340 --> 06:22:49.840]  There's other departments that... so when
we voted to move all the elected officials
[06:22:49.840 --> 06:22:55.240]  pay up to the same, that's what we said,
elected officials, not the department
[06:22:55.240 --> 06:22:55.620]  heads.
[06:22:55.620 --> 06:23:01.400]  And so but we now we gotta go back and
look at that because I think we might have
[06:23:01.400 --> 06:23:09.760]  moved one or two department heads up to
the same level, so we have to look at some
[06:23:09.760 --> 06:23:10.140]  of that.
[06:23:10.360 --> 06:23:11.720]  Did you get the email I sent you?
[06:23:11.940 --> 06:23:12.360]  A patron.
[06:23:12.620 --> 06:23:12.980]  Maybe.
[06:23:13.040 --> 06:23:13.760]  I don't know what you got.
[06:23:13.840 --> 06:23:14.940]  When did you send it to me?
[06:23:14.980 --> 06:23:15.500]  A couple days ago.
[06:23:15.660 --> 06:23:16.040]  I don't know.
[06:23:18.220 --> 06:23:20.900]  So do you have any other questions besides
that?
[06:23:21.980 --> 06:23:23.820]  No, I just wanted to...
[06:23:23.820 --> 06:23:32.080]  And what I was wanting you to do,
and I asked her, in the past, we asked you
[06:23:32.080 --> 06:23:36.860]  to bring an elected official with you,
or an elected board member, to ask for
[06:23:36.860 --> 06:23:39.060]  your raise, instead of you asking for your
own.
[06:23:39.400 --> 06:23:42.320]  And then I asked her this time to come and
speak for herself.
[06:23:42.900 --> 06:23:49.600]  And honestly, she brings in a lot of money
into the county.
[06:23:50.380 --> 06:23:53.720]  How many grants do you think you write a
year?
[06:23:55.920 --> 06:23:56.840]  It just depends.
[06:23:56.960 --> 06:23:58.900]  Right now I have three grants that I'm
working on.
[06:23:59.180 --> 06:24:01.600]  $700,000 grant for 60 properties
[06:24:07.000 --> 06:24:09.560]  and getting invasive species off of our
[06:24:14.100 --> 06:24:14.360]  county.
[06:24:14.720 --> 06:24:14.920]  Right.
[06:24:15.600 --> 06:24:20.100]  So every year you get that money and that
goes out to the farmers throughout the
[06:24:20.100 --> 06:24:20.820]  whole county, correct?
[06:24:21.060 --> 06:24:21.360]  That's right.
[06:24:21.660 --> 06:24:22.140]  Right.
[06:24:22.260 --> 06:24:24.240]  And then you buy a lot of different
things.
[06:24:24.280 --> 06:24:25.600]  They buy a lot of different things with
that.
[06:24:25.700 --> 06:24:29.080]  And you also take care of all the silk
fencing?
[06:24:30.080 --> 06:24:30.860]  Erosion control.
[06:24:32.840 --> 06:24:34.060]  Stormwater permitting.
[06:24:34.480 --> 06:24:38.640]  Right, so when you do that, so if there's
a big construction job that's on,
[06:24:38.840 --> 06:24:41.500]  you go out and make sure everything stays
up to snuff.
[06:24:41.740 --> 06:24:47.580]  They keep it up, and erosion, and what
else do you do?
[06:24:48.240 --> 06:24:49.500]  There's tons of stuff.
[06:24:49.760 --> 06:24:50.380]  Yeah, gotcha.
[06:24:50.440 --> 06:24:51.140]  Yes, you do.
[06:24:51.380 --> 06:24:51.860]  Okay.
[06:24:51.880 --> 06:24:52.340]  Alright.
[06:24:53.940 --> 06:24:56.900]  Just a little bit of the things.
[06:24:57.220 --> 06:24:57.840]  Thank you.
[06:25:04.480 --> 06:25:11.140]  There are times that I do have to come in
on a Saturday to move equipment between
[06:25:11.140 --> 06:25:13.680]  farmers or come in on a Sunday to cut
fabric.
[06:25:17.180 --> 06:25:18.740]  Do you charge this for that?
[06:25:19.740 --> 06:25:20.860]  Cop time?
[06:25:21.340 --> 06:25:22.160]  Not always.
[06:25:23.860 --> 06:25:27.000]  I have to stop something that I'm doing
with my family to come in
[06:25:31.630 --> 06:25:33.030]  close to town.
[06:25:34.630 --> 06:25:36.690]  Did you put in here what your degree is?
[06:25:36.690 --> 06:25:37.370]  I
[06:25:49.400 --> 06:25:53.100]  guess the point I'm trying to make,
that's just another one we have to
[06:25:53.100 --> 06:25:53.400]  discuss.
[06:25:53.780 --> 06:25:54.720]  And I've got it.
[06:25:54.800 --> 06:25:56.220]  I've highlighted it.
[06:25:56.300 --> 06:25:57.260]  That we're going to discuss.
[06:26:00.480 --> 06:26:02.880]  Because we're not making any final
decisions today.
[06:26:02.980 --> 06:26:05.820]  We're just discussing for now exactly what
we're going to do financially.
[06:26:06.720 --> 06:26:08.440]  And we do appreciate you.
[06:26:10.120 --> 06:26:11.300]  Thank you so much.
[06:26:11.320 --> 06:26:15.580]  Is there anything else on your budget that
you want to talk about as far as...
[06:26:43.080 --> 06:26:48.840]  Did your board of directors get a stipend?
[06:26:49.640 --> 06:26:53.160]  No, I didn't think, yeah, because I don't
think they talked about it either,
[06:26:53.300 --> 06:26:53.480]  did they?
[06:26:54.620 --> 06:26:55.320]  Yeah, okay.
[06:26:55.520 --> 06:26:57.660]  I wasn't for sure whether they got either
shot.
[06:26:58.320 --> 06:26:59.100]  Not much.
[06:26:59.500 --> 06:27:00.720]  It's not a lot of what they did.
[06:27:01.120 --> 06:27:02.660]  Okay, because he's still a volunteer.
[06:27:03.500 --> 06:27:04.220]  Yeah, okay.
[06:27:04.320 --> 06:27:05.920]  I think he and the patient choose not to.
[06:27:05.920 --> 06:27:06.480]  Okay, okay.
[06:27:07.200 --> 06:27:08.000]  All right, great.
[06:27:08.100 --> 06:27:08.380]  Appreciate it.
[06:27:08.620 --> 06:27:09.140]  Thank you so much.
[06:27:09.140 --> 06:27:09.560]  We got it highlighted.
[06:27:09.760 --> 06:27:10.400]  Thank you.
[06:27:11.180 --> 06:27:14.340]  Okay, now we are with our assessor,
Randy.
[06:27:17.260 --> 06:27:18.480]  We're back on target again.
[06:27:19.660 --> 06:27:23.440]  I had to get Tina back here to get it.
[06:27:26.640 --> 06:27:27.680]  Hey Jake.
[06:27:28.340 --> 06:27:29.460]  Gentlemen, hey Jake.
[06:27:29.680 --> 06:27:30.700]  Thank you, Tina.
[06:27:31.060 --> 06:27:32.800]  You're welcome, Mr. Woodall.
[06:27:32.960 --> 06:27:33.360]  That's Dave.
[06:27:34.180 --> 06:27:35.180]  No, he's good.
[06:27:35.660 --> 06:27:36.700]  You know it all.
[06:27:36.700 --> 06:27:37.380]  He's a know-it-all.
[06:27:39.200 --> 06:27:43.620]  I can forget I have a photographic memory.
[06:27:45.860 --> 06:27:49.760]  Okay, I don't see anything highlighted on
Randy's as well.
[06:27:49.860 --> 06:27:50.420]  I don't either.
[06:27:50.540 --> 06:27:54.440]  Well, see, I asked Randy to bring us some
information.
[06:27:54.500 --> 06:27:56.660]  I see a pink to investigate repairs and
maintenance.
[06:27:56.760 --> 06:27:57.880]  $33,000.
[06:27:57.920 --> 06:27:59.660]  $35,000 was adopted.
[06:27:59.960 --> 06:28:01.720]  $35,000 was the spending authority.
[06:28:01.840 --> 06:28:02.920]  Nothing's been spent.
[06:28:03.600 --> 06:28:04.540]  Requested that again.
[06:28:04.720 --> 06:28:09.240]  So, what are we putting $35,000 into a
fund for, Randy?
[06:28:09.520 --> 06:28:12.820]  That is the maintenance agreement with
Exxon.
[06:28:15.120 --> 06:28:18.440]  At the end of the year, it's like a
contractual service, sir?
[06:28:18.540 --> 06:28:21.560]  Yeah, it's like a maintenance agreement.
[06:28:23.960 --> 06:28:25.960]  When XSOFT came in, it was $107,000.
[06:28:25.960 --> 06:28:26.720]  Tell me what that is.
[06:28:26.780 --> 06:28:27.400]  Is that your software?
[06:28:27.760 --> 06:28:28.680]  Yeah, that's the software.
[06:28:28.980 --> 06:28:31.400]  And since I'm here, you guys are ahead
again.
[06:28:31.780 --> 06:28:40.960]  You really need to consider funding the
treasurer's office as well as the
[06:28:40.960 --> 06:28:44.600]  auditor's office ... with the same
software that the assessor has in their
[06:28:44.600 --> 06:28:44.900]  office.
[06:28:45.440 --> 06:28:46.140]  Okay, Randy.
[06:28:46.380 --> 06:28:47.320]  That's my pitch.
[06:28:49.340 --> 06:28:52.860]  We're only a million over right now,
Randy.
[06:28:52.980 --> 06:28:53.560]  That's okay.
[06:28:53.700 --> 06:28:54.220]  We don't care.
[06:28:54.540 --> 06:28:58.760]  I'm just saying, the offices, the three
offices would work a whole lot better.
[06:28:59.480 --> 06:29:01.800]  Once you've got software to talk to each
other.
[06:29:04.740 --> 06:29:10.000]  But the maintenance, repair and
maintenance, that goes to X office every
[06:29:10.000 --> 06:29:10.260]  year.
[06:29:11.440 --> 06:29:11.880]  33.
[06:29:12.340 --> 06:29:14.100]  How come you don't have that in a
contractual service?
[06:29:14.480 --> 06:29:15.500]  You don't have a contractual service?
[06:29:15.540 --> 06:29:16.160]  Yeah, you do have it.
[06:29:16.280 --> 06:29:16.680]  Yeah, we do.
[06:29:16.980 --> 06:29:23.920]  So why do we have it under... we're just
trying to clean some budgets up to know
[06:29:23.920 --> 06:29:26.800]  where we're at and what we're really
spending our money on.
[06:29:27.100 --> 06:29:31.120]  So repair and maintenance would make you
think that it was...
[06:29:31.120 --> 06:29:32.580]  I guess it's maintenance.
[06:29:32.960 --> 06:29:33.260]  Yeah.
[06:29:34.560 --> 06:29:37.160]  The contractual services is a different
company.
[06:29:37.560 --> 06:29:38.840]  It's tied to technologies.
[06:29:44.080 --> 06:29:45.940]  When does that end?
[06:29:46.040 --> 06:29:47.180]  Or does it ever end?
[06:29:47.740 --> 06:29:49.040]  That agreement?
[06:29:51.540 --> 06:29:54.120]  It never ends.
[06:29:54.300 --> 06:29:55.120]  That's just continuing.
[06:29:56.200 --> 06:29:58.580]  But you can negotiate that.
[06:29:59.380 --> 06:30:07.860]  Right, once the Tyler contract is up,
and they just bid it, it runs from June of
[06:30:07.860 --> 06:30:09.420]  this year to May of next year.
[06:30:10.440 --> 06:30:11.680]  So it just started.
[06:30:12.660 --> 06:30:14.600]  But that's a bid situation.
[06:30:15.200 --> 06:30:18.600]  And there will be other people bid on it
besides Tyler next time.
[06:30:18.800 --> 06:30:23.080]  And this last time, the last bid process,
would also have more people bid.
[06:30:25.600 --> 06:30:29.540]  Tyler does the reassessment of the
properties in the county.
[06:30:30.200 --> 06:30:37.100]  And when I came in, and Cheryl can attest
to this, when I came in, one of the very
[06:30:37.100 --> 06:30:41.640]  first things we did, coming in as an
appraiser, myself and Cheryl both,
[06:30:41.940 --> 06:30:45.320]  we'd always go to the house, we'd see the
front and the back of the house,
[06:30:45.420 --> 06:30:49.880]  we'd make sure that if there was anything
new on the property card, you know,
[06:30:49.880 --> 06:30:50.780]  we'd go see it.
[06:30:50.780 --> 06:30:53.540]  And so that's what I did with Tyler at
that time.
[06:30:54.260 --> 06:31:00.240]  Came in, hired an outside field rep to do
the inspections on the home so we'd have
[06:31:00.240 --> 06:31:03.880]  front photos, back photos, we'd have
photos, and we'd have out photos.
[06:31:05.120 --> 06:31:08.080]  And it took four years to get all that
done.
[06:31:11.730 --> 06:31:16.210]  But at that point... but
[06:31:28.140 --> 06:31:32.420]  I would suggest going back to a field rep
to do all the inspections on the
[06:31:32.420 --> 06:31:33.420]  properties in the county.
[06:31:35.400 --> 06:31:40.400]  The first month that we were doing that,
we sent our field rep out and he's got the
[06:31:40.400 --> 06:31:44.000]  property record card and he looks at the
back of it and I remember him calling me
[06:31:44.000 --> 06:31:49.300]  and saying, Randy, this property doesn't
look right in person the way it does on
[06:31:49.300 --> 06:31:49.900]  the property record.
[06:31:50.400 --> 06:31:52.140]  I said, well, they shouldn't get
photographs.
[06:31:52.560 --> 06:31:56.840]  They had a 12 by 30 foot addition on the
back of the home that had been there for
[06:31:56.840 --> 06:31:57.080]  years.
[06:31:57.980 --> 06:31:59.200]  They weren't taxed on it.
[06:31:59.200 --> 06:32:03.080]  So, everybody in this room, except maybe
you, I don't think you live in St.
[06:32:03.240 --> 06:32:05.540]  Scallop, was paying additional taxes.
[06:32:07.380 --> 06:32:08.400]  Marginal, obviously.
[06:32:08.880 --> 06:32:13.580]  But we're paying additional taxes because
that one person has a room we weren't
[06:32:13.580 --> 06:32:14.120]  taxing for.
[06:32:14.800 --> 06:32:19.560]  So it was a benefit to the county to pick
out things that weren't on the property
[06:32:19.560 --> 06:32:19.880]  record.
[06:32:35.400 --> 06:32:39.820]  I'm just saying you could have combined
those two line items, because it's all
[06:32:39.820 --> 06:32:41.620]  contractual services, but we can live with
the way it is.
[06:32:43.560 --> 06:32:44.660]  You got anything else?
[06:32:44.940 --> 06:32:45.300]  Yes.
[06:32:45.600 --> 06:32:45.960]  Okay.
[06:32:45.960 --> 06:32:54.700]  Up on the salary line, don't have a
problem with the elected officials,
[06:32:54.880 --> 06:32:56.240]  don't have a pay.
[06:32:58.360 --> 06:33:00.980]  The second deputy is where you guys need
to reduce.
[06:33:01.140 --> 06:33:02.080]  I already got it taken care of.
[06:33:03.120 --> 06:33:03.560]  Okay.
[06:33:03.600 --> 06:33:04.620]  It's taken care of.
[06:33:04.640 --> 06:33:05.960]  And I'll explain that later.
[06:33:06.360 --> 06:33:06.760]  Okay.
[06:33:07.920 --> 06:33:08.360]  Yep.
[06:33:09.340 --> 06:33:16.620]  Also on the salary line, the level three,
you have... I didn't know this one.
[06:33:21.440 --> 06:33:27.600]  You have done a 27 proposed council budget
of $5,471.
[06:33:27.740 --> 06:33:29.120]  That means you can cut that.
[06:33:29.880 --> 06:33:34.220]  That would be $5,471 if you had two level
3...
[06:33:34.220 --> 06:33:35.060]  But you won't have now.
[06:33:35.340 --> 06:33:40.260]  So do we want to take that to...
[06:33:48.390 --> 06:33:48.830]  2735.
[06:33:52.010 --> 06:33:53.710]  You see the bucket of sand a little more?
[06:33:53.970 --> 06:33:55.890]  Let me try and lose it somewhere else.
[06:33:58.470 --> 06:33:59.350]  Level 3.
[06:34:00.630 --> 06:34:01.770]  Yeah, the one level 3.
[06:34:04.810 --> 06:34:05.690]  2735.50.
[06:34:19.580 --> 06:34:20.020]  Yeah.
[06:34:29.690 --> 06:34:33.130]  I know you said you would discuss it with
us later, but does he have it?
[06:34:33.410 --> 06:34:33.730]  Yeah.
[06:34:33.830 --> 06:34:34.230]  Okay.
[06:34:34.450 --> 06:34:35.690]  That's what I talked to him about.
[06:34:35.730 --> 06:34:36.170]  The deputy.
[06:34:36.310 --> 06:34:36.930]  The second deputy.
[06:34:37.010 --> 06:34:38.290]  The second deputy you've already reduced.
[06:34:38.550 --> 06:34:39.390]  No, he will.
[06:34:39.990 --> 06:34:40.390]  Okay.
[06:34:40.470 --> 06:34:41.770]  We don't have a figure right now?
[06:34:41.970 --> 06:34:42.130]  No.
[06:34:42.250 --> 06:34:42.570]  Okay.
[06:34:42.690 --> 06:34:43.070]  No, he will.
[06:34:48.640 --> 06:34:49.040]  Okay.
[06:34:49.960 --> 06:34:51.000]  Got anything else, Randy?
[06:34:51.640 --> 06:35:02.260]  In looking over, the only other thing that
comes to mileage, 24, travel mileage,
[06:35:02.500 --> 06:35:05.560]  I didn't increase that at all,
but it's at $2,500.
[06:35:08.000 --> 06:35:11.060]  The only thing that may come into play
with that...
[06:35:11.060 --> 06:35:12.100]  It's saying $250.
[06:35:14.720 --> 06:35:15.840]  No, mine's the same.
[06:35:15.860 --> 06:35:16.260]  Oh, okay.
[06:35:16.480 --> 06:35:17.900]  There's two lines.
[06:35:18.220 --> 06:35:18.480]  Yes.
[06:35:18.760 --> 06:35:19.280]  Okay.
[06:35:20.400 --> 06:35:22.260]  The second one, $2,500.
[06:35:22.400 --> 06:35:22.900]  Yeah, yeah.
[06:35:25.380 --> 06:35:30.580]  Our field rep, he does new construction
inspections.
[06:35:31.340 --> 06:35:33.180]  And we have him doing that.
[06:35:39.050 --> 06:35:42.650]  So Reggie is still doing the new
construction inspections.
[06:35:46.050 --> 06:35:49.690]  But with that, he was always driving the
company car.
[06:35:50.150 --> 06:35:52.630]  It was a part of the insurance department.
[06:35:54.390 --> 06:35:55.510]  A lot
[06:36:04.080 --> 06:36:04.280]  of it.
[06:36:04.380 --> 06:36:05.640]  Too much money at this point.
[06:36:10.260 --> 06:36:11.300]  And you're paying mileage.
[06:36:12.000 --> 06:36:12.840]  And what are we doing?
[06:36:12.860 --> 06:36:13.800]  Just letting that car set?
[06:36:14.160 --> 06:36:15.220]  Yeah, it's parked down here.
[06:36:15.520 --> 06:36:18.380]  And so you'll let the new assessor decide
what to do with that?
[06:36:18.600 --> 06:36:20.660]  Yeah, I'll talk to the commissioners,
I'll talk to the sheriffs.
[06:36:28.630 --> 06:36:30.610]  So what do you spend on mileage?
[06:36:30.790 --> 06:36:32.450]  It just depends, too, because...
[06:36:32.450 --> 06:36:32.590]  Right.
[06:36:33.250 --> 06:36:35.710]  So you're thinking there's not enough
money in there.
[06:36:36.030 --> 06:36:36.930]  There may not be.
[06:36:37.290 --> 06:36:40.670]  Okay, so I guess we'll probably just leave
it at that, and then if they need an
[06:36:40.670 --> 06:36:42.110]  additional preparation, we'll do that.
[06:36:42.670 --> 06:36:43.250]  That's fair.
[06:36:44.130 --> 06:36:44.530]  Okay.
[06:36:45.930 --> 06:36:46.830]  Anything else?
[06:36:47.250 --> 06:36:48.350]  I think that's everything.
[06:36:48.610 --> 06:36:48.950]  Alright.
[06:36:49.050 --> 06:36:50.310]  Well, gosh, you were easy on us today.
[06:36:50.530 --> 06:36:51.010]  Thank you, Randy.
[06:36:53.030 --> 06:36:54.890]  Hey, good luck in your next season.
[06:36:55.070 --> 06:36:55.330]  Yes.
[06:36:55.470 --> 06:36:56.330]  I'm looking forward to it.
[06:36:56.490 --> 06:36:59.950]  Like I tell my new uncles, four months and
twelve days.
[06:37:00.090 --> 06:37:00.610]  I know.
[06:37:00.630 --> 06:37:01.130]  I know.
[06:37:02.570 --> 06:37:03.390]  Thank you.
[06:37:03.830 --> 06:37:04.110]  Thank you.
[06:37:05.310 --> 06:37:06.730]  Randy, what are you doing next?
[06:37:07.690 --> 06:37:09.530]  Randy, what are you doing next?
[06:37:09.990 --> 06:37:10.910]  Your next season?
[06:37:11.050 --> 06:37:11.430]  Do you know?
[06:37:18.130 --> 06:37:18.970]  Good luck.
[06:37:21.850 --> 06:37:22.550]  That's awesome.
[06:37:22.870 --> 06:37:23.870]  Hey, thank you.
[06:37:24.390 --> 06:37:27.210]  Okay, so 2.45 is our next one with
veterans.
[06:37:27.710 --> 06:37:29.710]  Gosh darn it, I got you right back on
track.
[06:37:30.170 --> 06:37:31.550]  Good thing you came back.
[06:37:32.950 --> 06:37:36.610]  Thanks, Cheryl.
[06:37:37.190 --> 06:37:38.070]  Yeah, thank you, Cheryl.
[06:37:38.250 --> 06:37:38.990]  Aren't you up next?
[06:37:53.350 --> 06:37:57.230]  I was afraid to ask you another question.
[06:37:57.910 --> 06:38:04.910]  Where did that come from?
[06:38:05.010 --> 06:38:05.930]  Bless your heart.
[06:38:06.630 --> 06:38:07.550]  Mike, you want one?
[06:38:08.010 --> 06:38:08.690]  I'm out.
[06:38:08.690 --> 06:38:08.870]  I'm out.
[06:38:08.870 --> 06:38:09.650]  I'm out.
[06:38:10.230 --> 06:38:11.690]  No, I've got... mine's full.
[06:38:13.030 --> 06:38:14.190]  Yours is full?
[06:38:14.250 --> 06:38:15.310]  Can you share your problem?
[06:38:15.370 --> 06:38:16.610]  No, I've got... mine's full.
[06:38:17.070 --> 06:38:18.570]  We've only got an hour left, guys.
[06:38:18.630 --> 06:38:19.830]  I've got less than an hour.
[06:38:19.830 --> 06:38:21.370]  So you can keep us on track.
[06:38:22.190 --> 06:38:22.630]  Yeah.
[06:38:22.690 --> 06:38:23.250]  I think.
[06:38:23.870 --> 06:38:24.470]  I can.
[06:38:25.570 --> 06:38:26.010]  Veteran.
[06:38:26.010 --> 06:38:26.430]  I can do it.
[06:38:26.430 --> 06:38:26.750]  Veteran.
[06:38:26.810 --> 06:38:27.270]  Oh, that's good.
[06:38:27.330 --> 06:38:27.810]  It'll be easy.
[06:38:28.470 --> 06:38:29.390]  That's good, thank you.
[06:38:29.610 --> 06:38:29.990]  You're welcome.
[06:38:32.010 --> 06:38:32.970]  HR won't be.
[06:38:42.410 --> 06:38:42.970]  Where's he at?
[06:38:43.290 --> 06:38:44.150]  Veterans DZ.
[06:38:45.330 --> 06:38:46.590]  9-1-1 would be bad.
[06:38:46.730 --> 06:38:47.830]  Park, I don't know about that one.
[06:38:48.510 --> 06:38:50.130]  No, that's not the one I want to talk
[06:38:53.610 --> 06:38:54.210]  to him about.
[06:38:54.370 --> 06:38:55.290]  No, sure you don't.
[06:38:56.750 --> 06:38:58.050]  I want that team to do it.
[06:39:00.170 --> 06:39:01.150]  I think that's a great idea.
[06:39:10.050 --> 06:39:13.010]  I'll take your salary and your salary,
and then I'll come back as secretary.
[06:39:13.570 --> 06:39:13.890]  Here?
[06:39:14.110 --> 06:39:14.430]  Yeah.
[06:39:14.510 --> 06:39:15.310]  So I'll have to come?
[06:39:16.670 --> 06:39:17.270]  That's up to you.
[06:39:17.390 --> 06:39:17.570]  Wow.
[06:39:18.350 --> 06:39:18.990]  That's up to you.
[06:39:19.250 --> 06:39:21.890]  Hey, I might take you up on that.
[06:39:23.570 --> 06:39:25.410]  See, if I want that pizza, I don't need
it.
[06:39:26.330 --> 06:39:27.430]  No, he needs it.
[06:39:38.330 --> 06:39:40.210]  I love her death, I wish she would die.
[06:39:40.430 --> 06:39:42.930]  Mine just did.
[06:39:43.150 --> 06:39:45.050]  And I wasn't sad about it.
[06:39:45.870 --> 06:39:46.290]  Yes.
[06:39:46.790 --> 06:39:47.650]  I was ready.
[06:39:49.250 --> 06:39:49.670]  I
[06:39:52.960 --> 06:39:55.080]  think she can be a little moody.
[06:39:55.420 --> 06:39:56.620]  Yeah, I'm just...
[06:39:59.340 --> 06:40:02.400]  This is about twice the amount of people
that have come to Jesus' meeting.
[06:40:03.160 --> 06:40:04.220]  Well, mine too.
[06:40:04.500 --> 06:40:05.020]  Mine too.
[06:40:05.240 --> 06:40:06.600]  It's so much fun, isn't it, being a boss?
[06:40:06.600 --> 06:40:07.480]  Well, no.
[06:40:07.640 --> 06:40:10.900]  And I told David, I said, listen,
it's lonely at the top.
[06:40:11.440 --> 06:40:12.740]  Somebody's got to be the bad guy.
[06:40:13.980 --> 06:40:17.460]  And otherwise it causes a dissension in
the ranks.
[06:40:17.580 --> 06:40:18.460]  I've been told all of that.
[06:40:18.720 --> 06:40:20.560]  He's friends of all of them, which we are.
[06:40:20.600 --> 06:40:24.500]  Listen, sometimes that great hat comes on
and the boss hat comes on.
[06:40:24.640 --> 06:40:26.640]  And you can't run with your staff.
[06:40:26.840 --> 06:40:28.640]  You cannot socialize with them.
[06:40:28.880 --> 06:40:29.500]  Nope, you can't.
[06:40:30.000 --> 06:40:31.240]  It's lonely at the top.
[06:40:31.240 --> 06:40:31.660]  It doesn't work.
[06:40:31.860 --> 06:40:33.120]  I've never thought about that.
[06:40:33.340 --> 06:40:34.320]  They don't like you as well.
[06:40:34.500 --> 06:40:35.700]  That's the way I would want to keep it.
[06:40:53.760 --> 06:41:01.020]  I don't know what I'm going to do.
[06:41:01.260 --> 06:41:04.860]  I've got a couple offers, but I just,
I don't know what I want to read.
[06:41:06.740 --> 06:41:09.180]  I don't know that I'm going to work Monday
through Friday.
[06:41:11.740 --> 06:41:12.220]  We'll see.
[06:41:14.820 --> 06:41:15.620]  You're going to laugh.
[06:41:15.760 --> 06:41:16.820]  I said I was going to do this.
[06:41:16.900 --> 06:41:23.640]  So I love Third and Main and I love to go
down to the Lodge at Washington,
[06:41:23.840 --> 06:41:24.140]  Indiana.
[06:41:24.200 --> 06:41:26.180]  Third and Main is a restaurant over in
Aurora.
[06:41:26.700 --> 06:41:27.760]  Like both the owners.
[06:41:28.180 --> 06:41:32.180]  And they're both looking for a bartender
for Christmas parties.
[06:41:32.280 --> 06:41:34.140]  And I'm thinking, gosh darn it,
how much money would that be?
[06:41:34.140 --> 06:41:35.520]  You'd be great at that.
[06:41:35.740 --> 06:41:36.500]  You'd be good at that.
[06:41:37.160 --> 06:41:38.220]  Wear a Santa hat.
[06:41:38.380 --> 06:41:38.780]  Yes!
[06:41:38.860 --> 06:41:39.560]  It'd be fun!
[06:41:40.120 --> 06:41:42.380]  You know, my next season of Life on Earth,
it'd be fun!
[06:41:43.480 --> 06:41:45.160]  Although, I'll miss the figures.
[06:41:45.440 --> 06:41:47.320]  You know, you're going to have something
to keep your brain busy.
[06:41:48.360 --> 06:41:52.340]  And I'm not hardly going to be at the
office at all.
[06:41:53.000 --> 06:41:55.740]  Because you've got to let, like you,
you've got to let Older make it his own.
[06:41:55.820 --> 06:41:56.820]  And I'm like David.
[06:41:57.300 --> 06:41:59.280]  I still do some of the meetings.
[06:41:59.620 --> 06:42:02.040]  He'll call me and everything, and
sometimes they'll figure it out.
[06:42:02.700 --> 06:42:04.940]  You know, if I'm dead tomorrow,
you have to figure it out.
[06:42:06.020 --> 06:42:07.200]  Yeah, me too.
[06:42:07.420 --> 06:42:07.940]  Me too.
[06:42:08.080 --> 06:42:12.220]  It's hard, because you see the solution,
and I want to jump in, and most likely
[06:42:12.220 --> 06:42:13.020]  figure it out.
[06:42:13.460 --> 06:42:16.860]  Well, and I want him to get that
leadership.
[06:42:17.820 --> 06:42:18.620]  He'll get it.
[06:42:18.800 --> 06:42:23.240]  He's got three drivers and two
secretaries.
[06:42:23.720 --> 06:42:24.500]  Two secretaries?
[06:42:24.660 --> 06:42:24.940]  Yeah.
[06:42:25.140 --> 06:42:26.400]  Man, you're staffing that?
[06:42:26.500 --> 06:42:27.800]  I mean, 15 wheelers.
[06:42:33.840 --> 06:42:35.080]  My accountant is him.
[06:42:35.600 --> 06:42:40.020]  He was in a mood.
[06:42:40.180 --> 06:42:41.680]  I said, what's wrong?
[06:42:42.100 --> 06:42:44.680]  You know what the problem is with five
women in the office?
[06:42:44.780 --> 06:42:46.500]  And I said, why, he goes, five women in
the office?
[06:42:46.580 --> 06:42:47.460]  Yes, yes.
[06:42:47.500 --> 06:42:49.260]  I could say the same thing when it was
only me.
[06:42:49.420 --> 06:42:51.780]  I could say the same thing when I was the
only woman in the office.
[06:42:52.080 --> 06:42:53.560]  And it was that way with guys.
[06:42:53.900 --> 06:42:54.020]  Yeah.
[06:42:54.880 --> 06:42:56.400]  You could have whiny bitchy guys.
[06:42:56.460 --> 06:42:57.140]  There ain't anything wrong with that.
[06:42:57.140 --> 06:42:57.720]  Oh, is there worse?
[06:42:58.080 --> 06:42:59.760]  Mark, you know, I've never been married.
[06:43:00.120 --> 06:43:02.200]  And he was, he got drove me crazy.
[06:43:02.360 --> 06:43:03.940]  He was as moody as anyone.
[06:43:04.320 --> 06:43:07.260]  And I'm like, he was one of my best
employees, but one of my worst too,
[06:43:07.300 --> 06:43:08.020]  because he's moody.
[06:43:08.100 --> 06:43:10.200]  And I was always bitching about something.
[06:43:10.680 --> 06:43:14.200]  You know, one of my lawyers I hired,
Nicole and Tasha.
[06:43:15.000 --> 06:43:15.440]  Amazing.
[06:43:16.140 --> 06:43:17.800]  And they're in mortuary school.
[06:43:18.520 --> 06:43:19.120]  What's this?
[06:43:19.180 --> 06:43:19.420]  What's this?
[06:43:19.880 --> 06:43:21.380]  She teaches us true sin.
[06:43:21.820 --> 06:43:22.260]  Really?
[06:43:22.880 --> 06:43:23.920]  Because she's so jealous.
[06:43:24.020 --> 06:43:24.800]  Those are my directors.
[06:43:24.800 --> 06:43:28.780]  And I found out in the last two weeks,
so I just sat down and said, I'm done.
[06:43:29.080 --> 06:43:33.960]  I said, do you know, I said, what's the
difference between a director and your
[06:43:33.960 --> 06:43:34.220]  job?
[06:43:34.740 --> 06:43:37.040]  If you go home, the business keeps going.
[06:43:37.280 --> 06:43:38.940]  If you go home, it stops.
[06:43:39.760 --> 06:43:41.920]  And I said, you need to understand your
place in the law.
[06:43:42.340 --> 06:43:42.920]  What's that?
[06:43:43.040 --> 06:43:43.900]  What do you think that's about?
[06:43:44.440 --> 06:43:48.520]  I think she doesn't have anything going on
in her life.
[06:43:48.760 --> 06:43:50.160]  She has nothing going on in her life.
[06:43:50.160 --> 06:43:50.520]  I know.
[06:43:50.780 --> 06:43:54.340]  No wife, no friends, but the Lord used to
start her.
[06:43:57.120 --> 06:43:57.680]  I know.
[06:43:57.780 --> 06:43:58.240]  I know.
[06:44:03.000 --> 06:44:05.040]  I give it and that's why I'm trying not
to.
[06:44:05.180 --> 06:44:08.460]  And people will say to me, you know,
you've got your kids.
[06:44:08.520 --> 06:44:10.200]  I'm like, my kids have their own life to
live.
[06:44:10.880 --> 06:44:11.960]  And I have mine too.
[06:44:12.140 --> 06:44:15.460]  And I don't necessarily want to be in
their pocket.
[06:44:15.600 --> 06:44:16.600]  And I don't want to be in my pocket.
[06:44:17.840 --> 06:44:18.980]  What do you pick?
[06:44:19.060 --> 06:44:20.400]  You'll excel at it, that's for sure.
[06:44:20.640 --> 06:44:21.540]  Well, thank you.
[06:44:21.660 --> 06:44:22.920]  I just...
[06:44:22.920 --> 06:44:27.640]  I don't have to brush anybody's teeth!
[06:44:31.660 --> 06:44:33.620]  The two girls we have are amazing.
[06:44:34.880 --> 06:44:35.540]  They're going to be amazing.
[06:44:36.440 --> 06:44:38.000]  They don't want to work with you.
[06:44:38.580 --> 06:44:40.160]  They want to start where they're doing it.
[06:44:40.320 --> 06:44:42.880]  After 50 years, Gene, that's what you're
going to have to do.
[06:44:42.880 --> 06:44:43.320]  I know.
[06:44:43.860 --> 06:44:47.420]  I had one fellow come in and told me right
out of the gate, and you know him,
[06:44:47.480 --> 06:44:50.080]  I won't say his name right now,
but he said right out of the gate,
[06:44:50.100 --> 06:44:55.820]  he says, I see myself running everything,
writing the checks, running the accounts
[06:44:55.820 --> 06:44:59.080]  and all, and all of them then go ahead and
do the day-to-day stuff.
[06:44:59.660 --> 06:45:03.800]  I had to get him, he wasn't even in high
school yet, and I said, Lord, can I get
[06:45:03.800 --> 06:45:04.280]  that backward?
[06:45:04.480 --> 06:45:06.340]  I said, you start as a loaner.
[06:45:06.520 --> 06:45:11.660]  I said, your first day here, you're going
to scrub the commodes, vacuum the carpet.
[06:45:21.680 --> 06:45:24.960]  I told one of my friends, it's been four
or five years ago, he came in one day,
[06:45:25.020 --> 06:45:28.440]  I had to brush, I was cleaning the
commode, he looks at me and he goes,
[06:45:28.500 --> 06:45:30.360]  didn't you do that in high school?
[06:45:30.940 --> 06:45:31.400]  Sure did.
[06:45:31.700 --> 06:45:32.420]  Sure did.
[06:45:33.000 --> 06:45:33.320]  Yep.
[06:45:33.320 --> 06:45:33.560]  Yep.
[06:45:33.760 --> 06:45:34.720]  Kind of full circle.
[06:45:35.040 --> 06:45:37.580]  Well, I told him, he said, you haven't
came very far, have you?
[06:45:37.680 --> 06:45:40.040]  And I said, actually I have and I own the
commode.
[06:45:42.060 --> 06:45:44.260]  I used to clean it for somebody else,
now it's mine.
[06:45:44.860 --> 06:45:47.080]  It's like, it gets there before you know
it.
[06:45:47.800 --> 06:45:49.020]  No, I can't.
[06:45:49.060 --> 06:45:49.440]  Listen.
[06:45:50.180 --> 06:45:50.760]  Hey, Jerry.
[06:45:51.940 --> 06:45:53.620]  Jerry hasn't eaten a thing today,
has he?
[06:45:53.620 --> 06:45:54.040]  Give it to Mike.
[06:45:54.440 --> 06:45:55.100]  Mike can eat it.
[06:45:55.140 --> 06:45:56.460]  I don't like that.
[06:45:57.480 --> 06:46:01.340]  Mike, what are you going to do in your
next season of life?
[06:46:01.740 --> 06:46:03.540]  You're going to be on the lake.
[06:46:03.620 --> 06:46:04.660]  I'm going to sit on the water somewhere.
[06:46:05.980 --> 06:46:07.200]  I'm thrilled for you.
[06:46:08.760 --> 06:46:10.740]  I got two boats now, so that's good.
[06:46:11.100 --> 06:46:11.760]  You got a third one?
[06:46:11.960 --> 06:46:14.880]  Yeah, I got a tritune and my basketball.
[06:46:15.180 --> 06:46:15.840]  Good for you.
[06:46:17.140 --> 06:46:17.900]  So, do what?
[06:46:18.040 --> 06:46:18.680]  You got a third one?
[06:46:19.080 --> 06:46:20.100]  Do you have a boat or something?
[06:46:20.740 --> 06:46:21.640]  Billy's got a big one.
[06:46:21.680 --> 06:46:23.000]  He's trying to sell a 36-footer.
[06:46:23.160 --> 06:46:23.480]  Yeah.
[06:46:23.640 --> 06:46:25.100]  You know John Simpson, don't you?
[06:46:25.240 --> 06:46:25.460]  Yeah.
[06:46:25.560 --> 06:46:26.280]  He works for me part-time.
[06:46:26.540 --> 06:46:27.580]  He just done Comiskey.
[06:46:27.680 --> 06:46:29.400]  He has a big boat in his yard.
[06:46:29.560 --> 06:46:32.060]  But he never takes a day where I say,
are you waiting for the next flood or
[06:46:32.060 --> 06:46:32.220]  what?
[06:46:32.440 --> 06:46:34.160]  Oh my gosh, you've got to tell your
boyfriend the story.
[06:46:34.160 --> 06:46:35.140]  Sit next to his ass.
[06:46:35.140 --> 06:46:38.960]  So last Sunday, I'm meeting a friend at
Scottsburg, and we're going to go to
[06:46:38.960 --> 06:46:44.640]  Lexington for the day shopping,
and I get stopped going 80 in a 50,
[06:46:44.780 --> 06:46:51.200]  and I have CDLs, and it's a state boy,
it's a state boy, and he walks up and he
[06:46:51.200 --> 06:46:53.180]  goes, please tell me you're late for
church.
[06:46:54.120 --> 06:46:55.320]  Okay, I'm late for church.
[06:46:55.400 --> 06:47:00.680]  No, no, listen, I can know, I wish,
I wish I could know it was Sunday,
[06:47:00.820 --> 06:47:03.800]  Sunday morning, and I was skipping church,
and I said...
[06:47:05.140 --> 06:47:06.540]  I said, I wish I could tell you that.
[06:47:06.740 --> 06:47:10.740]  Well, long story short, it's Derek Simpson
and his mom and dad go to church with me.
[06:47:10.760 --> 06:47:13.500]  If I hadn't said that, I'd be like,
he would have known for sure.
[06:47:13.500 --> 06:47:14.780]  It was Derek.
[06:47:15.320 --> 06:47:16.180]  Why is he back?
[06:47:17.460 --> 06:47:18.040]  You're out.
[06:47:18.240 --> 06:47:18.740]  You're out of time.
[06:47:19.760 --> 06:47:21.060]  Hey, I've got a question.
[06:47:21.340 --> 06:47:21.740]  Okay.
[06:47:22.020 --> 06:47:22.720]  You're drawing a podium.
[06:47:23.500 --> 06:47:23.900]  What?
[06:47:24.140 --> 06:47:25.280]  That's not the question podium.
[06:47:29.830 --> 06:47:32.970]  Everybody's paid an assessor's salary,
so I'm going to be speaking for Jasmine
[06:47:32.970 --> 06:47:34.190]  and for Cheryl.
[06:47:38.350 --> 06:47:46.050]  The assessor and the chief deputy get an
additional salary based on the 2008 law
[06:47:46.050 --> 06:47:52.830]  change that the state did, where they took
the assessing responsibility away.
[06:47:59.220 --> 06:48:01.060]  I think it started in 2009.
[06:48:16.120 --> 06:48:16.480]  Well,
[06:48:21.220 --> 06:48:24.220]  it would have been on whatever your salary
was starting last year.
[06:48:24.280 --> 06:48:25.520]  Is it not included in your salary?
[06:48:47.960 --> 06:48:50.440]  They get a stipend.
[06:48:50.440 --> 06:48:52.120]  Do you understand what he said?
[06:48:52.400 --> 06:48:53.060]  The certification?
[06:48:53.560 --> 06:48:54.240]  No.
[06:48:54.240 --> 06:48:54.460]  No.
[06:48:54.460 --> 06:48:55.020]  No.
[06:48:55.840 --> 06:48:56.440]  No.
[06:48:56.720 --> 06:48:56.720]  No.
[06:48:56.740 --> 06:48:57.960]  This is a separate.
[06:48:58.180 --> 06:48:59.120]  This is a separate.
[06:49:00.180 --> 06:49:01.120]  What's it called?
[06:49:02.460 --> 06:49:03.260]  I don't know.
[06:49:03.500 --> 06:49:04.540]  That's not a name.
[06:49:05.740 --> 06:49:07.340]  I can tell you the line item.
[06:49:07.620 --> 06:49:08.220]  Okay.
[06:49:08.940 --> 06:49:13.580]  My line item was 12-24-10-1-5-0-8.
[06:49:15.760 --> 06:49:19.280]  And it's the same on Jackson.
[06:49:19.540 --> 06:49:20.540]  12-24.
[06:49:21.000 --> 06:49:22.720]  Got 10 salaries.
[06:49:22.880 --> 06:49:24.460]  It was under reassessment last year.
[06:49:25.460 --> 06:49:27.480]  Yes, under the reassessment.
[06:49:27.660 --> 06:49:27.900]  Yes.
[06:49:28.000 --> 06:49:30.080]  Salary is under reassessment last year.
[06:49:30.640 --> 06:49:37.450]  Oh, so that's in the... I see it here.
[06:49:37.590 --> 06:49:38.690]  Salary line...
[06:49:39.790 --> 06:49:41.530]  Should be $35,000.
[06:49:41.990 --> 06:49:42.550]  Yeah.
[06:49:42.630 --> 06:49:43.070]  Okay.
[06:49:43.330 --> 06:49:43.890]  Yep.
[06:49:44.810 --> 06:49:45.370]  Okay.
[06:49:45.550 --> 06:49:46.370]  Thank you, sir.
[06:49:46.490 --> 06:49:46.790]  Thank you.
[06:49:47.190 --> 06:49:48.010]  Thanks, Mike.
[06:49:48.090 --> 06:49:55.270]  So anyway, I said, no, I know that I was
still speeding.
[06:49:55.350 --> 06:49:56.030]  I was watching.
[06:49:56.030 --> 06:49:57.410]  I said, my tire's going low.
[06:49:57.490 --> 06:49:58.770]  And he goes, have you been watching it?
[06:49:58.790 --> 06:49:59.270]  I said, no.
[06:49:59.330 --> 06:50:00.310]  And I'm wondering what I'm going to do.
[06:50:00.370 --> 06:50:01.650]  He goes, why wouldn't he be speeding on
it?
[06:50:01.730 --> 06:50:04.470]  So then he said, I'll be right with you
sir.
[06:50:04.530 --> 06:50:08.410]  He said to me, I noticed you've never had
a ticket.
[06:50:08.570 --> 06:50:09.510]  I said, no, I haven't.
[06:50:09.550 --> 06:50:12.210]  And he goes, I'm not going to ruin your
record today.
[06:50:12.530 --> 06:50:16.910]  And then he said, when you get a ticket,
not if, when you get a ticket,
[06:50:16.950 --> 06:50:17.550]  you deserve it.
[06:50:20.230 --> 06:50:21.210]  Hi, how are you?
[06:50:21.450 --> 06:50:25.670]  Do you see anything that's shocking to you
that you want to talk about?
[06:50:34.480 --> 06:50:35.520]  Page 11, gentlemen.
[06:50:36.660 --> 06:50:40.860]  Okay, we have a highlighted area of
mileage on here.
[06:50:42.800 --> 06:50:44.880]  We have a miscellaneous expense above
that.
[06:50:45.500 --> 06:50:46.740]  Are we going to do something about that?
[06:50:46.960 --> 06:50:47.160]  Yep.
[06:50:48.260 --> 06:50:48.960]  What did you say?
[06:50:49.280 --> 06:50:50.680]  We've got two things to address.
[06:50:50.680 --> 06:50:53.080]  The Miscellaneous Expense and the
Traveling Mileage.
[06:50:54.620 --> 06:50:56.440]  Which would you like to start with?
[06:50:56.580 --> 06:50:59.420]  Well, what do you use your Miscellaneous
Expense for?
[06:50:59.780 --> 06:51:00.220]  Okay.
[06:51:02.680 --> 06:51:06.620]  So I have, I think there are three items.
[06:51:08.880 --> 06:51:09.460]  Yes.
[06:51:12.060 --> 06:51:14.400]  Now, I use this every year.
[06:51:14.580 --> 06:51:24.000]  The only time I use the Miscellaneous
Expense is if something comes up So that's
[06:51:24.000 --> 06:51:25.340]  the reason I budgeted.
[06:51:25.760 --> 06:51:31.040]  There were three items that were on
miscellaneous expense for 2026.
[06:51:31.560 --> 06:51:40.080]  I had Eagle Point come out and do some
maintenance on my computer, and there is
[06:51:40.080 --> 06:51:40.560]  no...
[06:51:40.560 --> 06:51:43.720]  I do have a vehicle repair and maintenance
category.
[06:51:43.720 --> 06:51:52.900]  I suppose I could drop the term vehicle
and just reclassify that as repair and
[06:51:52.900 --> 06:51:59.280]  maintenance and throw that type of expense
over there, but for right now I have a
[06:51:59.280 --> 06:52:04.720]  vehicle repair and maintenance,
which the computer maintenance didn't
[06:52:04.720 --> 06:52:05.260]  allow to.
[06:52:06.600 --> 06:52:20.180]  Second one was PDF suites for $106.90 and
that was the annual fee that I paid for
[06:52:20.180 --> 06:52:21.960]  them to be able to use PDF.
[06:52:23.200 --> 06:52:33.420]  Now that could conceivably fall into dues
and meetings, but it didn't neatly fit in
[06:52:33.420 --> 06:52:33.660]  there.
[06:52:37.320 --> 06:52:43.100]  And then the last one was the office shop.
[06:52:43.300 --> 06:52:44.920]  That was $80.
[06:52:45.440 --> 06:52:50.140]  And again, that was repair on my copier.
[06:52:51.120 --> 06:52:57.280]  That could be done the same by putting it
into an account called repair and
[06:52:57.280 --> 06:53:00.720]  maintenance if I simply drop the vehicle.
[06:53:07.620 --> 06:53:09.220]  I think the same thing.
[06:53:09.380 --> 06:53:14.120]  So the IT could be under the computer and
the printer could be the repair for the
[06:53:14.120 --> 06:53:17.340]  copier could be under printer so those
could have been under that and then the
[06:53:17.340 --> 06:53:21.560]  fee could be under the dues and meetings
and then just do away with your
[06:53:21.560 --> 06:53:26.680]  miscellaneous expense and the only reason
why we're saying that is counting why we
[06:53:26.680 --> 06:53:32.540]  are taking out any kind of So,
I would just suggest put it in the
[06:53:32.540 --> 06:53:35.660]  neatest, the cleanest spot you can.
[06:53:35.960 --> 06:53:40.900]  Alright, I would recommend that the
miscellaneous be completely eliminated.
[06:53:41.160 --> 06:53:42.400]  Yeah, that's what we're doing.
[06:53:42.540 --> 06:53:44.280]  Getting rid of that word miscellaneous.
[06:53:45.080 --> 06:53:48.320]  Do you want me to do anything about
transferring?
[06:53:48.540 --> 06:53:50.120]  No, no, no, you don't have to.
[06:53:50.400 --> 06:53:54.420]  And then the other thing is, the
highlighted area is the travel and
[06:53:54.420 --> 06:53:54.720]  mileage.
[06:53:54.720 --> 06:53:58.900]  It looks like you had a spending authority
of $7,300.
[06:53:59.240 --> 06:54:02.080]  You've only spent $1,368.
[06:54:02.380 --> 06:54:10.900]  You asked for another $7,300 and the
finance committee suggested $4,000.
[06:54:11.520 --> 06:54:17.880]  Because it doesn't look like historically
that you have used $7,000 for travel on
[06:54:17.880 --> 06:54:18.180]  mileage.
[06:54:18.440 --> 06:54:22.980]  It's been an ongoing account that I've
just repeated year after year.
[06:54:22.980 --> 06:54:28.620]  So would you be okay with the $4,000 and
if you, then you, if you run out,
[06:54:28.660 --> 06:54:32.020]  come see us for an additional
appropriation if something happened.
[06:54:32.340 --> 06:54:35.220]  Is there anything else on your budget that
you want to discuss?
[06:54:36.740 --> 06:54:39.940]  Well, I'm concerned about this Ready
Finance group.
[06:54:40.840 --> 06:54:45.760]  Is that something that the commissioners
have authorized to be used in the past?
[06:54:46.960 --> 06:54:49.180]  This is the first time I've seen this guy.
[06:54:50.260 --> 06:54:51.440]  Am I seeing that?
[06:54:51.440 --> 06:54:52.640]  What is it again?
[06:54:54.060 --> 06:54:56.680]  This spreadsheet that you have on the
overhead.
[06:55:07.350 --> 06:55:08.470]  Which one was your question?
[06:55:08.670 --> 06:55:09.130]  Which one?
[06:55:09.610 --> 06:55:14.070]  This was created by a company called Ready
Financial Reading.
[06:55:14.730 --> 06:55:17.530]  Yeah, this is reading that we use for
our...
[06:55:17.530 --> 06:55:19.250]  to help us with our budgets.
[06:55:19.330 --> 06:55:20.470]  You're our financial advisor.
[06:55:20.810 --> 06:55:21.410]  Oh, okay.
[06:55:21.490 --> 06:55:23.410]  So it is something that... Yes.
[06:55:23.890 --> 06:55:25.390]  Your answer is yes.
[06:55:25.390 --> 06:55:26.650]  This is the first time I've seen it.
[06:55:26.710 --> 06:55:28.510]  Now let me make a suggestion.
[06:55:29.350 --> 06:55:30.830]  You've got this tool.
[06:55:31.050 --> 06:55:35.750]  It goes back and does comparisons as far
back as 2025.
[06:55:37.770 --> 06:55:44.510]  Why don't you use this tool as a document
that we can use as department heads when
[06:55:44.510 --> 06:55:47.630]  we're putting together our budget
proposals in the future?
[06:55:48.330 --> 06:55:54.130]  It's already doing... it's already making
recommendations, right?
[06:55:57.890 --> 06:55:59.150]  Is that what you're saying?
[06:55:59.210 --> 06:56:02.550]  They're going back and getting your
information, but we're the ones saying
[06:56:02.550 --> 06:56:02.890]  this.
[06:56:03.070 --> 06:56:05.310]  They're not changing anything,
we're changing it.
[06:56:05.410 --> 06:56:10.310]  No, what he's saying is, what I understand
you to be saying, Dan, is that you would
[06:56:10.310 --> 06:56:14.370]  like this tool to be available...
[06:56:14.370 --> 06:56:15.030]  In the beginning of the budget process.
[06:56:15.250 --> 06:56:15.450]  Correct.
[06:56:15.750 --> 06:56:19.690]  So this is an Excel spreadsheet that you
could set up through Excel.
[06:56:20.130 --> 06:56:23.710]  This isn't like a template that you could
pass on.
[06:56:26.290 --> 06:56:29.910]  No, but I think what he's saying is he can
see the numbers.
[06:56:30.090 --> 06:56:31.330]  It's all clear to him, right?
[06:56:31.470 --> 06:56:34.310]  Right now there's no guidelines at all.
[06:56:34.630 --> 06:56:35.070]  None.
[06:56:35.570 --> 06:56:37.690]  I mean, we might put this budget...
[06:56:37.690 --> 06:56:39.170]  He's wanting a template like this.
[06:56:39.270 --> 06:56:40.990]  He just wants to see what he's spent in
the past.
[06:56:41.150 --> 06:56:43.450]  Just a copy of this.
[06:56:43.490 --> 06:56:43.790]  Right.
[06:56:43.790 --> 06:56:47.450]  So if you kept your budget from the year
before, you still could use that.
[06:56:48.310 --> 06:56:53.330]  Well, it's not... there's going to be
formulas and calculations in there that
[06:56:53.330 --> 06:56:55.510]  we're not going to be able to see.
[06:56:55.590 --> 06:57:00.290]  I'm not sure, you know, what drove the
comparison from one to another.
[06:57:00.470 --> 06:57:02.570]  What the formula actually was.
[06:57:02.870 --> 06:57:06.850]  You know, what was the basis for the
adjustments?
[06:57:07.290 --> 06:57:09.230]  There were some basis for the adjustments.
[06:57:09.230 --> 06:57:10.930]  Hold on, okay, okay.
[06:57:11.090 --> 06:57:14.830]  So like, okay, so like, if you,
in your Form 1, you sent it in,
[06:57:14.890 --> 06:57:20.550]  you said, I want this amount of money,
and you, but what's going on, we look at
[06:57:20.550 --> 06:57:25.010]  that, the council, not reading,
and we say, no, this is what we're doing.
[06:57:25.230 --> 06:57:28.030]  So we're making the adjustments,
not reading.
[06:57:28.550 --> 06:57:30.870]  What he's saying, I understand what you're
saying.
[06:57:30.890 --> 06:57:32.430]  The formula is...
[06:57:32.950 --> 06:57:37.390]  Yeah, if it's put into effect at the
beginning of the process, you're making
[06:57:37.390 --> 06:57:38.910]  recommendations to us.
[06:57:39.030 --> 06:57:41.890]  You're not just saying, go.
[06:57:42.650 --> 06:57:45.090]  You're actually giving us some guidelines.
[06:57:46.510 --> 06:57:50.750]  So if you have your budget from the prior
year, so if you keep your budget that we
[06:57:50.750 --> 06:57:54.990]  sent you back, okay, and you'll get your
other one back, and you keep that.
[06:57:54.990 --> 06:57:59.910]  Your spending authority, I'm just going to
go... let's just go postage for spending
[06:57:59.910 --> 06:58:03.650]  authority for... the budget is $397.
[06:58:04.130 --> 06:58:05.810]  So we start with that.
[06:58:05.810 --> 06:58:06.830]  That's our formula.
[06:58:07.050 --> 06:58:15.250]  And then whatever you have used till June
30th, that's what the expenditures were.
[06:58:15.430 --> 06:58:16.930]  So that's the formula for that line.
[06:58:17.250 --> 06:58:22.030]  And then your new line would be what you
think that you want to spend for the next
[06:58:22.030 --> 06:58:22.350]  year.
[06:58:22.350 --> 06:58:28.070]  So that would be what you're proposing to
the council that you want to put into your
[06:58:28.070 --> 06:58:28.310]  budget.
[06:58:28.430 --> 06:58:32.510]  Then the council looks at that and they
say we can do that or we want to cut that.
[06:58:32.750 --> 06:58:34.150]  And then that comes back to you.
[06:58:35.830 --> 06:58:41.690]  So the only thing that I'm saying is we
get, as department heads, we get no
[06:58:41.690 --> 06:58:42.110]  guidelines.
[06:58:43.230 --> 06:58:46.310]  We're told to put together a spreadsheet
and submit it.
[06:58:47.010 --> 06:58:47.550]  That's it.
[06:58:47.810 --> 06:58:49.850]  You do have a guideline from last year.
[06:58:56.550 --> 06:59:01.310]  So you're saying you would like to have a
guideline from the council like put in
[06:59:01.310 --> 06:59:02.190]  1.5%?
[06:59:02.510 --> 06:59:03.110]  Yeah.
[06:59:03.670 --> 06:59:05.530]  And I'm following you now.
[06:59:05.690 --> 06:59:12.690]  So the figure I used came from Google
which was 4.25% and that was the inflation
[06:59:12.690 --> 06:59:15.790]  that Google had stated.
[06:59:29.830 --> 06:59:30.390]  Right.
[06:59:33.590 --> 06:59:34.950]  I'm following you now.
[06:59:35.070 --> 06:59:39.330]  So what he would... so what I understand
Dan to be saying, he would like the
[06:59:39.330 --> 06:59:41.810]  council to say, you know...
[06:59:41.810 --> 06:59:42.570]  Figure 2%.
[06:59:42.570 --> 06:59:43.990]  Yeah, figure 2%.
[06:59:43.990 --> 06:59:44.790]  No, we don't do that.
[06:59:44.790 --> 06:59:46.130]  I know you don't.
[06:59:46.170 --> 06:59:47.270]  We're not going to do that.
[06:59:47.530 --> 06:59:49.130]  Well, and you probably won't.
[06:59:49.190 --> 06:59:55.310]  So here we go in 2028, and I'm going to be
sitting in front of you having the same
[06:59:55.310 --> 07:00:00.050]  discussion because I was given no
guidelines from 2027.
[07:00:00.050 --> 07:00:03.850]  Well, last year you did get a guideline
that says don't put any percentage in.
[07:00:05.210 --> 07:00:08.710]  Well, now, if you want me to do that,
I can do that.
[07:00:08.710 --> 07:00:12.010]  That's the easiest way, because we're
going to come up with that percentage
[07:00:12.010 --> 07:00:12.430]  anyway.
[07:00:13.130 --> 07:00:15.010]  That's actually the best way of doing it.
[07:00:15.130 --> 07:00:19.450]  I don't think that's even fair either.
[07:00:19.470 --> 07:00:22.770]  Zero percent is what I'm working off of,
but that isn't real life.
[07:00:23.030 --> 07:00:26.510]  In the real world, we have adjustments due
to inflation.
[07:00:27.430 --> 07:00:31.290]  And that vehicle expense just used once
since we were using it.
[07:00:31.630 --> 07:00:36.590]  Those parts go up every year, maintenance
goes up every year, even though I use the
[07:00:36.590 --> 07:00:37.290]  highway garage.
[07:00:37.290 --> 07:00:40.810]  I mean, those costs go up every year.
[07:00:40.990 --> 07:00:47.390]  And those are reflected in what my
budget's going to be dictating to me.
[07:00:48.110 --> 07:00:49.990]  So I have to have something.
[07:00:50.430 --> 07:00:50.990]  Something.
[07:00:51.190 --> 07:00:52.890]  I can't use just zero percent.
[07:00:53.010 --> 07:00:59.810]  So, for example, on the maintenance.
[07:01:01.790 --> 07:01:05.110]  Now, I'm trying to forecast what my
budget's going to be.
[07:01:08.790 --> 07:01:13.510]  My budget in 2026 was $3,500.
[07:01:15.130 --> 07:01:17.810]  I've got a fleet that is aging.
[07:01:18.010 --> 07:01:21.290]  And I'm relying more and more on
maintenance now.
[07:01:21.690 --> 07:01:24.750]  So I increased that from $3,500 to $3,700.
[07:01:25.630 --> 07:01:27.130]  And that was the purpose.
[07:01:27.190 --> 07:01:29.230]  That's the guidelines that I'm looking
for.
[07:01:29.230 --> 07:01:34.390]  I understand the reluctance in wanting to
provide it because people will use it,
[07:01:34.710 --> 07:01:42.670]  so if I'm not providing it, I have to come
up with it because I know there's going to
[07:01:42.670 --> 07:01:43.310]  be inflation.
[07:01:43.850 --> 07:01:48.370]  So I'm going to want to reflect that in my
budget.
[07:01:48.370 --> 07:01:49.030]  Right.
[07:01:49.250 --> 07:01:52.810]  And so, yeah, I can appreciate what you're
saying.
[07:01:53.330 --> 07:01:58.170]  We don't always, you know, obviously,
county government doesn't grow with the
[07:01:58.170 --> 07:01:58.450]  inflation.
[07:01:58.770 --> 07:01:59.610]  We all know that.
[07:01:59.870 --> 07:02:07.450]  I would continue to do what you're doing,
be proactive, but always keep in mind,
[07:02:07.490 --> 07:02:13.570]  if you would go over that six percent,
and you have to have, then you come back,
[07:02:13.570 --> 07:02:16.070]  certainly come back to the council for an
additional appropriation.
[07:02:16.790 --> 07:02:18.930]  I'm just not wanting to waste your time.
[07:02:18.990 --> 07:02:19.410]  I understand.
[07:02:19.410 --> 07:02:20.610]  I'm trying to do a good job.
[07:02:20.730 --> 07:02:21.170]  And you do.
[07:02:21.330 --> 07:02:23.450]  And you do a good job, Morris,
and I appreciate that.
[07:02:23.770 --> 07:02:27.290]  And I also appreciate what you're saying
as far as I...
[07:02:27.870 --> 07:02:31.530]  Doing a budget, I wouldn't want to just
come in at the same thing as flat as what
[07:02:31.530 --> 07:02:31.830]  I did.
[07:02:31.970 --> 07:02:35.090]  So I probably would never come in flat
from what it was the year before,
[07:02:35.190 --> 07:02:38.050]  because I think, like you, that there's
going to be an increase.
[07:02:38.830 --> 07:02:41.130]  Or a decrease that I haven't used that
fund.
[07:02:42.630 --> 07:02:43.150]  Right.
[07:02:43.150 --> 07:02:46.190]  Well, of course, then that goes back into
the general...
[07:02:46.190 --> 07:02:46.590]  General.
[07:02:46.590 --> 07:02:46.750]  Correct.
[07:02:47.070 --> 07:02:47.410]  Correct.
[07:02:47.850 --> 07:02:49.430]  No, I understand all of that.
[07:02:49.530 --> 07:02:52.730]  I'm just... I'm trying to do a good job.
[07:02:52.730 --> 07:02:52.950]  Right.
[07:02:52.950 --> 07:02:57.130]  And you're asking us for some guidance and
lead way.
[07:02:57.330 --> 07:03:04.070]  What I'm saying is, this sheet has given
you information and you've made decisions
[07:03:04.070 --> 07:03:05.610]  based off of this sheet.
[07:03:05.750 --> 07:03:06.010]  Correct.
[07:03:06.250 --> 07:03:09.570]  If this sheet could be provided to us in
the beginning
[07:03:15.950 --> 07:03:19.870]  Right, right.
[07:03:20.010 --> 07:03:24.890]  And I will make a note of that for going
forward, to see what the council does.
[07:03:24.930 --> 07:03:25.310]  So it's part of my concern.
[07:03:25.390 --> 07:03:27.010]  It's whatever you guys want to prove.
[07:03:27.990 --> 07:03:32.670]  Because I understand that we're limited,
you know, based off of the income that we
[07:03:32.670 --> 07:03:33.790]  receive from the taxpayers.
[07:03:34.170 --> 07:03:34.650]  Right.
[07:03:34.810 --> 07:03:37.070]  And I'm a taxpayer.
[07:03:37.210 --> 07:03:38.790]  Yes, and you don't let yours go either.
[07:03:48.190 --> 07:03:52.690]  Well, and I appreciate your comments and
the input because, you know, we can make
[07:03:52.690 --> 07:03:53.210]  it go smoother.
[07:03:53.270 --> 07:03:54.770]  We certainly want to do that too.
[07:03:55.330 --> 07:04:00.010]  So is there anything else that you wanted
to for us to look at on your budget?
[07:04:04.940 --> 07:04:06.640]  I didn't have anything else highlighted.
[07:04:11.060 --> 07:04:16.100]  I'm going to make a note on that travel
and mileage and take a hard look at that
[07:04:16.100 --> 07:04:17.820]  since it was brought up.
[07:04:20.540 --> 07:04:27.300]  I looked at the amount that you proposed
and I should be able to live within that.
[07:04:28.080 --> 07:04:33.740]  Actually, I could probably use less,
just based off of the history that I've
[07:04:33.740 --> 07:04:34.540]  seen on the account.
[07:04:51.960 --> 07:04:55.860]  Okay, well I sure appreciate what you do
for our veterans and for the county.
[07:04:56.220 --> 07:04:57.560]  On a shoestring budget.
[07:04:58.880 --> 07:04:59.780]  Thank you.
[07:05:02.420 --> 07:05:03.800]  Anybody else have anything?
[07:05:04.460 --> 07:05:05.720]  Okay, thank you.
[07:05:05.880 --> 07:05:06.840]  Thank you for your time.
[07:05:07.020 --> 07:05:07.520]  Thank you.
[07:05:08.240 --> 07:05:08.760]  Okay, Britt.
[07:05:09.760 --> 07:05:11.180]  Let me see what page we're on.
[07:05:11.600 --> 07:05:11.960]  30.
[07:05:12.340 --> 07:05:13.540]  Thank you, June.
[07:05:15.820 --> 07:05:16.960]  Do you want to go left for me?
[07:05:18.940 --> 07:05:19.300]  No.
[07:05:19.320 --> 07:05:20.220]  The answer is no.
[07:05:20.220 --> 07:05:21.980]  Listen, we don't even have to give you
anything.
[07:05:22.020 --> 07:05:23.820]  You generate all of yours, right?
[07:05:24.020 --> 07:05:24.700]  There you go.
[07:05:24.700 --> 07:05:26.720]  Listen, I know you, Britt.
[07:05:27.060 --> 07:05:28.700]  Listen, you and I are on the same page.
[07:05:33.940 --> 07:05:35.100]  It's just a big buddy.
[07:05:37.220 --> 07:05:40.640]  You've got to be, you've got to kick close
because you...
[07:05:46.260 --> 07:05:48.280]  So you just keep your...
[07:05:48.280 --> 07:05:48.800]  I'm a veteran.
[07:05:49.060 --> 07:05:50.040]  I deal with it all the time.
[07:05:51.080 --> 07:05:51.940]  Dan's a good guy.
[07:05:52.680 --> 07:05:53.220]  We're ready.
[07:05:54.520 --> 07:05:56.060]  It looked good to me.
[07:05:56.160 --> 07:05:59.120]  I see no, I don't have anything
highlighted and I don't have any notes.
[07:05:59.700 --> 07:06:01.320]  You're the kind of guy I like.
[07:06:05.900 --> 07:06:13.580]  I realize that we're in a pinch countywide
with inflation.
[07:06:14.260 --> 07:06:17.500]  I would like to get wages up a little bit
more.
[07:06:18.100 --> 07:06:24.380]  I don't know if that is something that the
group of department heads can come
[07:06:24.380 --> 07:06:27.240]  together and find some money to...
[07:06:27.240 --> 07:06:31.580]  Well, and the problem is your department
generates money that you can't spend,
[07:06:31.800 --> 07:06:33.440]  that you would like to use for that.
[07:06:33.460 --> 07:06:37.260]  I mean, there's certain things that you
can spend it on, but it's not... your
[07:06:37.260 --> 07:06:43.300]  department is not generating money because
you keep gouging someone for it.
[07:06:43.320 --> 07:06:43.900]  It's a given.
[07:06:44.080 --> 07:06:44.880]  It's a given.
[07:06:45.000 --> 07:06:45.500]  It's a given.
[07:06:47.480 --> 07:06:52.560]  And unless we put another tower in or we
have a piece of equipment or something,
[07:06:52.680 --> 07:06:53.780]  that money, that's just growing.
[07:06:58.500 --> 07:07:02.140]  So, and I make the argument every year
that since we do generate money,
[07:07:02.280 --> 07:07:03.800]  I would love to pay my people more.
[07:07:05.540 --> 07:07:10.300]  And I don't know if it's possible this
year, but I have offered in the past,
[07:07:10.320 --> 07:07:15.360]  and I would offer again this next year,
if a group of department heads could come
[07:07:15.360 --> 07:07:21.780]  together and say, could we cut in this
area to take care of our employees?
[07:07:29.620 --> 07:07:36.480]  Well, I am one of seven, but I'm not on
the Finance Committee this year because,
[07:07:36.540 --> 07:07:38.060]  as you know, I'm going off the council.
[07:07:38.420 --> 07:07:47.600]  And so, you know, I don't think it's a bad
idea, but I think that what happens is,
[07:07:47.840 --> 07:07:54.740]  to be honest with you, I've seen this,
Brett, and I don't know that there's a
[07:07:54.740 --> 07:07:55.160]  fair way.
[07:07:55.300 --> 07:08:01.740]  I've been on the council six years and
I've been every way but upside down on
[07:08:01.740 --> 07:08:04.720]  things that I voted for that I thought
department heads should get to determine
[07:08:04.720 --> 07:08:10.000]  who gets raises because who am I to say
who's performing in your department to
[07:08:10.000 --> 07:08:14.100]  then that bit me in the butt to then
across the board and I don't agree with
[07:08:14.100 --> 07:08:19.100]  that so I don't know what the correct
answer is to let a department that
[07:08:19.100 --> 07:08:22.060]  generates money be able to I don't know.
[07:08:22.180 --> 07:08:24.180]  I don't know what the answer is with it.
[07:08:25.080 --> 07:08:26.020]  What's your thought, counsel?
[07:08:29.660 --> 07:08:30.640]  I don't have any thought.
[07:08:30.840 --> 07:08:31.520]  Not right now.
[07:08:31.700 --> 07:08:32.320]  No answer.
[07:08:33.320 --> 07:08:35.020]  Oh, I got an answer.
[07:08:39.200 --> 07:08:40.860]  I'm not going to discuss it right now.
[07:08:41.100 --> 07:08:41.180]  I'm not.
[07:08:42.880 --> 07:08:43.820]  We're going to make a note.
[07:08:51.800 --> 07:08:52.840]  Mike, what's your thought?
[07:08:52.860 --> 07:08:53.440]  Thanks, Jerry.
[07:08:53.600 --> 07:08:56.040]  I know you're like me, you're going off,
but what's your thought?
[07:08:58.020 --> 07:09:00.260]  I don't know, I'm starting to see what
we've done for them in the past,
[07:09:00.280 --> 07:09:01.960]  because I thought maybe we did some
increases.
[07:09:02.260 --> 07:09:06.880]  But we actually, what we did was we raised
the starting salary for that department a
[07:09:06.880 --> 07:09:07.760]  few years ago.
[07:09:08.840 --> 07:09:09.940]  Five or six, I think.
[07:09:10.760 --> 07:09:20.980]  I mean, I... the... it's not a... it's not
an issue for his department.
[07:09:21.160 --> 07:09:21.880]  It's an issue everywhere.
[07:09:22.380 --> 07:09:22.780]  It is.
[07:09:22.920 --> 07:09:23.560]  It is.
[07:09:23.820 --> 07:09:26.420]  And the... I mean, we hear it every year.
[07:09:26.500 --> 07:09:31.900]  We sit here and we hear it from department
heads, and we hear it throughout the year
[07:09:31.900 --> 07:09:32.940]  from department heads.
[07:09:33.120 --> 07:09:37.880]  It's not a... and I'm not saying that to
say it's not an issue.
[07:09:37.920 --> 07:09:39.320]  I'm saying that because it is an issue.
[07:09:39.320 --> 07:09:39.720]  It is.
[07:09:39.900 --> 07:09:41.500]  That's across the board.
[07:09:41.580 --> 07:09:43.600]  We've heard today with the different
department heads.
[07:09:43.720 --> 07:09:45.020]  We can be picked pretty easily.
[07:09:45.140 --> 07:09:45.580]  It's a...
[07:09:47.920 --> 07:09:48.620]  I don't know.
[07:09:48.700 --> 07:09:49.800]  I don't know what the answer is.
[07:09:49.920 --> 07:09:51.640]  The answer is, you got to be...
[07:09:51.640 --> 07:09:55.200]  The answer is, you want to do it,
like he said, we've got department heads
[07:09:55.200 --> 07:09:57.300]  to come together and we're going to make
cuts.
[07:09:57.520 --> 07:09:58.160]  Here's the thing.
[07:09:58.240 --> 07:10:02.600]  You gotta be careful where you make cuts
because of the state mandates where you're
[07:10:02.600 --> 07:10:03.980]  going to pay certain things, Correct.
[07:10:04.140 --> 07:10:04.540]  regardless.
[07:10:04.940 --> 07:10:07.920]  So when you start cutting, you give
raises, We've got these bigger areas.
[07:10:07.920 --> 07:10:08.680]  Oh, we've got to have this.
[07:10:08.780 --> 07:10:10.860]  And then the shortfall comes back with
some more.
[07:10:11.020 --> 07:10:13.140]  Where you fix it, if you want to fix it.
[07:10:13.220 --> 07:10:14.580]  We've talked about this before,
Mike.
[07:10:14.880 --> 07:10:19.480]  If you want to fix it, you've got to start
eliminating employees.
[07:10:20.620 --> 07:10:25.780]  Instead of having seven employees in this
office, we can get it done with four.
[07:10:26.100 --> 07:10:28.320]  We're eliminating these three and they're
never coming back.
[07:10:28.600 --> 07:10:30.460]  We have done that before.
[07:10:30.640 --> 07:10:31.100]  We have.
[07:10:31.100 --> 07:10:31.600]  Yeah, we have.
[07:10:31.660 --> 07:10:38.100]  And what I think I hear Brett saying is,
give me permission to do a study,
[07:10:38.200 --> 07:10:41.780]  meet with department heads and see where
maybe we could do that.
[07:10:41.900 --> 07:10:45.600]  And, you know, I'm out on that because I'm
not going to be here.
[07:10:45.780 --> 07:10:48.840]  And so it's not going to... I'm not going
to be able to... I mean, I can have input
[07:10:48.840 --> 07:10:49.820]  on it, but...
[07:10:49.820 --> 07:10:50.280]  Yeah, you can.
[07:10:50.460 --> 07:10:53.500]  But it's already kind of being done anyway
with the group.
[07:10:53.540 --> 07:10:55.880]  I think you're involved in that group and
Dave.
[07:10:55.940 --> 07:10:57.420]  They're already talking about this stuff.
[07:10:57.460 --> 07:10:58.640]  I think HR's involved.
[07:10:58.680 --> 07:10:59.780]  They're discussing it.
[07:10:59.780 --> 07:11:01.680]  There's a lot of things we're working on
right now.
[07:11:01.800 --> 07:11:04.100]  But I think that's one of the things
you're talking about.
[07:11:04.360 --> 07:11:06.240]  It's going to take a minute to implement
that.
[07:11:06.800 --> 07:11:11.360]  Well, and I think I, if I were you,
Brett, I would get a hold of Dave Cheatham
[07:11:11.360 --> 07:11:13.860]  that's heading that up and tell him you're
interested in serving on that.
[07:11:14.400 --> 07:11:14.720]  Yeah.
[07:11:15.580 --> 07:11:15.900]  Great.
[07:11:16.200 --> 07:11:17.740]  Because I'd love to have your input on it.
[07:11:17.780 --> 07:11:18.660]  Of course, I'm going off.
[07:11:18.720 --> 07:11:19.980]  I don't know if Dave's going to take my
place.
[07:11:20.000 --> 07:11:20.900]  I don't know who will, but...
[07:11:20.900 --> 07:11:21.480]  Yeah.
[07:11:22.360 --> 07:11:22.920]  Dave is.
[07:11:23.140 --> 07:11:24.020]  I've already done that.
[07:11:24.020 --> 07:11:27.980]  I would say get a hold of Dave Cheatham
and tell him that you're interested in
[07:11:27.980 --> 07:11:29.480]  serving on that committee.
[07:11:29.700 --> 07:11:30.640]  Okay, I will.
[07:11:31.540 --> 07:11:33.160]  Do you have anything else for us?
[07:11:34.360 --> 07:11:36.040]  Same thing I pitched last year.
[07:11:37.340 --> 07:11:42.740]  I'm one of the few departments that does
not have an assistant.
[07:11:43.200 --> 07:11:46.500]  I would love to... I'm not asking for more
money.
[07:11:46.600 --> 07:11:47.560]  I have the money.
[07:11:49.960 --> 07:11:51.480]  Look at appointing somebody.
[07:11:51.800 --> 07:11:53.860]  The 9-1-1 board has already approved it.
[07:12:01.520 --> 07:12:04.320]  So he has employed.
[07:12:04.540 --> 07:12:09.060]  So last year we talked about doing it and
that person backed out at the last minute
[07:12:09.060 --> 07:12:12.540]  because we were going to come before the
council and they said I'm not ready to
[07:12:12.540 --> 07:12:13.540]  take that position yet.
[07:12:13.800 --> 07:12:15.360]  So do you have someone in mind?
[07:12:35.100 --> 07:12:38.340]  It raises the budget, but he has the money
in his budget.
[07:12:38.540 --> 07:12:41.040]  I understand that.
[07:12:42.080 --> 07:12:42.900]  Go ahead, Brett.
[07:12:43.120 --> 07:12:46.100]  I was just going to say, it will come out
of the money that the state provides.
[07:12:46.340 --> 07:12:48.260]  It won't affect the county or the city
budget.
[07:12:48.900 --> 07:12:50.040]  Similar to probation.
[07:12:50.480 --> 07:12:51.600]  Similar to the county garage.
[07:13:04.020 --> 07:13:11.160]  That's all I have.
[07:13:11.740 --> 07:13:13.520]  I appreciate what you do.
[07:13:13.680 --> 07:13:15.980]  Lacking the idea of funding is two whole
different things.
[07:13:18.640 --> 07:13:20.820]  But you gave me the solution to that too.
[07:13:24.520 --> 07:13:26.420]  I appreciate everything you do.
[07:13:27.140 --> 07:13:27.700]  Thank you.
[07:13:27.800 --> 07:13:28.460]  Thanks, Brett.
[07:13:29.480 --> 07:13:29.900]  Okay.
[07:13:32.760 --> 07:13:33.600]  Where are we at?
[07:13:33.900 --> 07:13:35.300]  Page 20.
[07:13:56.580 --> 07:13:57.820]  So you put me in a spot.
[07:13:57.940 --> 07:13:58.360]  Okay.
[07:14:13.810 --> 07:14:14.410]  That's okay.
[07:14:14.570 --> 07:14:15.490]  And we have a war.
[07:14:15.610 --> 07:14:16.030]  They do.
[07:14:17.610 --> 07:14:19.450]  All of those things that go with it.
[07:14:20.250 --> 07:14:21.150]  Yes, I agree.
[07:14:21.150 --> 07:14:21.410]  I agree.
[07:14:21.610 --> 07:14:22.350]  I agree.
[07:14:22.910 --> 07:14:24.290]  Okay, who we got next?
[07:14:24.870 --> 07:14:25.750]  H.R.?
[07:14:25.750 --> 07:14:26.510]  Yep, page 20.
[07:14:26.870 --> 07:14:27.550]  Thank you.
[07:14:39.720 --> 07:14:41.340]  Talk to us, old wise one.
[07:14:42.460 --> 07:14:43.320]  About that.
[07:14:44.080 --> 07:14:44.560]  Okay.
[07:14:46.200 --> 07:14:47.260]  Yep, I see it.
[07:14:47.300 --> 07:14:51.940]  So I have a highlighted area of you put in
your budget for an assistant.
[07:14:52.640 --> 07:14:53.120]  Yep.
[07:14:55.540 --> 07:14:58.000]  And it looks like they did not fund it.
[07:15:00.840 --> 07:15:03.000]  So, you want to talk about that,
or?
[07:15:03.140 --> 07:15:04.460]  I'm going to keep asking them right here.
[07:15:04.660 --> 07:15:09.160]  Okay, so, again, that...
[07:15:12.320 --> 07:15:14.780]  Where's the commissioners, I'm assuming?
[07:15:17.020 --> 07:15:21.860]  The concern is on a one-person office.
[07:15:22.140 --> 07:15:25.840]  If something happens, there is no backup
for that office.
[07:15:32.760 --> 07:15:36.160]  You know, it goes back to the
commissioners running it like it was
[07:15:36.160 --> 07:15:37.800]  supposed to be done a long time ago.
[07:15:41.540 --> 07:15:42.500]  Good luck with that.
[07:15:42.960 --> 07:15:44.340]  Yeah, well they've done it before.
[07:15:44.980 --> 07:15:46.620]  But good luck with it, you're right.
[07:15:50.020 --> 07:15:51.820]  I left everything else the same.
[07:15:51.960 --> 07:15:55.040]  I'll take whatever increase it may be on
salary.
[07:15:56.700 --> 07:15:58.380]  And like I said, I'll keep asking her.
[07:16:22.660 --> 07:16:25.480]  Are you still accumulating a lot of comp
time?
[07:16:26.440 --> 07:16:28.860]  Do you accumulate any after hours?
[07:16:29.960 --> 07:16:31.480]  One calls after hours.
[07:16:32.860 --> 07:16:34.820]  Why do you take them after hours?
[07:16:39.180 --> 07:16:42.820]  If it's just a quick thing, I don't count
it.
[07:16:42.900 --> 07:16:45.660]  I have a quick conversation and say,
we'll talk tomorrow.
[07:16:47.640 --> 07:16:53.060]  If I'm accumulating hours that something's
going on, then it needs addressing.
[07:16:53.760 --> 07:16:55.500]  But this is not happening right now.
[07:17:01.720 --> 07:17:02.920]  Anybody else have any questions?
[07:17:06.230 --> 07:17:09.590]  So, Deirdre, we can get to this in a
moment.
[07:17:26.520 --> 07:17:30.300]  Would you hire a full-time person to work
in two different offices?
[07:17:30.640 --> 07:17:30.920]  Yes.
[07:17:33.560 --> 07:17:34.640]  What would be a full-time job?
[07:17:36.200 --> 07:17:38.700]  Well, it would be a full-time job...
[07:17:38.700 --> 07:17:42.760]  Well, to be able to work for two different
offices, then you'd have people.
[07:17:50.480 --> 07:17:58.080]  I didn't want to, I didn't want to,
it, it, okay, work in part-time at your
[07:17:58.080 --> 07:18:01.040]  office, which HR is a big deal,
and you're doing a lot of stuff,
[07:18:01.140 --> 07:18:04.880]  and you end up being learned there,
and a lot of, a lot of, a lot of,
[07:18:05.200 --> 07:18:06.920]  so you,
[07:18:09.960 --> 07:18:32.300]  maybe, somebody, So, my work... the county
would be working for the same employer,
[07:18:32.520 --> 07:18:34.960]  because you would all be employed by the
county, it would be 40 hours.
[07:18:39.900 --> 07:18:44.840]  And they would be full-time.
[07:18:45.500 --> 07:18:47.820]  They would be hired as a full-time
employer.
[07:18:48.940 --> 07:18:53.940]  Because anything over a certain amount of
hours, in the end, is the employer.
[07:18:54.700 --> 07:18:57.920]  The job description must be three days,
HR, two days, or whatever.
[07:18:58.160 --> 07:18:58.600]  Yes.
[07:18:59.040 --> 07:18:59.380]  Yes.
[07:18:59.700 --> 07:19:00.800]  It could be...
[07:19:03.580 --> 07:19:04.020]  Yes.
[07:19:04.220 --> 07:19:04.380]  Okay.
[07:19:07.440 --> 07:19:08.620]  That would even help, goodness.
[07:19:09.440 --> 07:19:09.880]  Okay.
[07:19:10.020 --> 07:19:11.620]  That would even help, or something like
that.
[07:19:11.660 --> 07:19:15.600]  That would be an easy road, not an easy
road.
[07:19:15.600 --> 07:19:17.580]  Seth, 22.
[07:19:18.280 --> 07:19:19.140]  Thank you.
[07:19:19.500 --> 07:19:20.300]  I know Seth.
[07:19:20.620 --> 07:19:21.640]  Thank you, Nick.
[07:19:25.260 --> 07:19:29.770]  He's a juke at page 11 real quick.
[07:20:04.200 --> 07:20:05.900]  Hi Seth, how are you?
[07:20:06.100 --> 07:20:06.720]  Good.
[07:20:17.900 --> 07:20:18.300]  Well,
[07:20:22.660 --> 07:20:23.800]  it's not overspending.
[07:20:24.660 --> 07:20:30.840]  We are trying into a category of,
we don't want any miscellaneous,
[07:20:30.960 --> 07:20:33.720]  so we want to know what's being spent out
of miscellaneous.
[07:20:35.300 --> 07:20:35.860]  Relabel it.
[07:20:36.000 --> 07:20:39.460]  So it's really maybe not the spending,
we just want to make sure...
[07:20:43.160 --> 07:20:44.460]  So we'll start there.
[07:20:44.460 --> 07:20:46.940]  Dave, what do you pay for at
miscellaneous?
[07:20:47.280 --> 07:20:50.920]  So our miscellaneous are not ever going to
be earned throughout the year.
[07:20:51.260 --> 07:20:56.660]  So money that you earn, like collecting
camp fees, that sort of thing?
[07:20:58.140 --> 07:21:03.360]  So I put it off both our 925 and 2026.
[07:21:33.360 --> 07:21:49.520]  Let's let's see what we those mulch can
endure for the down and in from up ground
[07:21:49.520 --> 07:21:50.980]  or maintenance.
[07:21:51.700 --> 07:21:55.940]  Yeah, so the mulch I took out of the
non-referred because it's 10 grand and 10
[07:21:55.940 --> 07:21:57.800]  grand would be half of my building and
grounds account.
[07:21:58.060 --> 07:22:01.000]  So that's why I asked to have it taken out
of the non-referred.
[07:22:01.860 --> 07:22:05.220]  See, I would like to eliminate that splash
pad.
[07:22:05.600 --> 07:22:06.520]  Oh, you mean both?
[07:22:06.800 --> 07:22:09.920]  Well, I'm telling you, we're not going to
fund it.
[07:22:10.480 --> 07:22:15.960]  Well, so you're going to eliminate my
account for my splash pad, my $10,000?
[07:22:16.180 --> 07:22:18.180]  That $10,000, we're going to take that
line.
[07:22:20.520 --> 07:22:20.960]  Okay.
[07:22:21.980 --> 07:22:25.640]  Yeah, because a lot of that was coming out
of my non-reverting before.
[07:22:25.880 --> 07:22:26.160]  Yeah.
[07:22:26.200 --> 07:22:26.960]  That's why I asked.
[07:22:26.960 --> 07:22:39.540]  We want to... the finance has decided that
the train wreck constantly is dangerous.
[07:22:40.720 --> 07:22:45.380]  Well, like I've said before, it's an
unregulated aquatic facility in the middle
[07:22:45.380 --> 07:22:45.760]  of the field.
[07:22:46.000 --> 07:22:46.100]  Right.
[07:22:46.220 --> 07:22:47.160]  We don't want to filter it.
[07:22:47.320 --> 07:22:52.940]  It's got fencing around it and it's got
people surveying it, watching it,
[07:22:52.980 --> 07:22:53.600]  whatever you want to say.
[07:22:54.200 --> 07:22:58.260]  It's in a low spot, so water just filters
down into it.
[07:22:58.260 --> 07:22:59.460]  The water is dangerous.
[07:23:00.340 --> 07:23:05.040]  It's just too dangerous for us to fund it.
[07:23:05.120 --> 07:23:05.960]  I don't want to fund it.
[07:23:06.160 --> 07:23:07.720]  I mean, I was against it from the start.
[07:23:07.960 --> 07:23:11.540]  I'm just like, wow.
[07:23:11.800 --> 07:23:14.200]  I mean, I think of all the money that
we've spent on that.
[07:23:14.600 --> 07:23:17.220]  We've got to look at what... I get that.
[07:23:17.280 --> 07:23:18.260]  We've got to look at the future.
[07:23:18.320 --> 07:23:19.100]  Good after the bad.
[07:23:19.180 --> 07:23:20.480]  I understand all of that.
[07:23:20.720 --> 07:23:24.080]  So, what do we do with the fence?
[07:23:25.080 --> 07:23:25.680]  Fill it in.
[07:23:25.680 --> 07:23:30.720]  I mean we can remove the features and then
kind of repurpose that area as like put
[07:23:30.720 --> 07:23:31.460]  more shade strubs.
[07:23:32.760 --> 07:23:35.920]  I would assume like then we would just
want to eliminate that pump house.
[07:23:36.580 --> 07:23:39.900]  That could be a fence that could be just
free space and grass again.
[07:23:40.060 --> 07:23:41.620]  Can that be resold or anything anybody?
[07:23:41.820 --> 07:23:43.900]  Yeah, can we recoup some of that?
[07:23:44.000 --> 07:23:44.480]  I'm not really sure.
[07:23:44.680 --> 07:23:46.720]  I haven't looked into it, you know.
[07:23:46.740 --> 07:23:47.960]  So the city has...
[07:23:49.720 --> 07:23:52.680]  Could they maybe, would they be interested
in any...
[07:23:52.680 --> 07:23:54.080]  You know, I'm not sure.
[07:24:04.280 --> 07:24:08.600]  I get it.
[07:24:08.660 --> 07:24:10.260]  I get it because I see it all the time.
[07:24:10.360 --> 07:24:12.020]  It's down, it's down, it's, you know.
[07:24:12.220 --> 07:24:15.660]  Well this year we had like, I mean,
last year was the first year that we were
[07:24:15.660 --> 07:24:16.820]  able to have it run successfully.
[07:24:17.100 --> 07:24:21.020]  And I think that is due to people were
used to not running successfully,
[07:24:21.280 --> 07:24:22.700]  so people aren't using it that often.
[07:24:22.700 --> 07:24:28.280]  And so this year they did a rant and we
saw a giant uptick in usage, just people
[07:24:28.280 --> 07:24:30.700]  there all the time, but with that,
people weren't following the rules.
[07:24:30.780 --> 07:24:31.960]  Because it has to be treated like a pool.
[07:24:32.160 --> 07:24:36.160]  You're supposed to go take a shower,
no foreign objects, you know, but you see
[07:24:36.160 --> 07:24:38.000]  people come in, get out the car,
run through it.
[07:24:38.240 --> 07:24:40.120]  People get off the trails, go showering.
[07:24:40.220 --> 07:24:43.220]  I've heard people say, you know,
people get off their bikes, turn it on,
[07:24:43.300 --> 07:24:45.380]  and just rinse off, which is not what it's
for.
[07:24:45.680 --> 07:24:49.920]  Again, that's all just extra foreign
material that's causing our water to get
[07:24:49.920 --> 07:24:50.360]  off the filter.
[07:24:54.060 --> 07:25:04.940]  A little pause... and we are back.
[07:25:05.400 --> 07:25:14.260]  A little pause... and we are back.
[07:25:24.620 --> 07:25:26.940]  Oh, wow.
[07:25:34.940 --> 07:25:36.100]  Boy,
[07:25:39.180 --> 07:25:40.160]  that was...
[07:25:46.160 --> 07:25:48.480]  Hand deliver.
[07:25:48.740 --> 07:25:49.780]  Yeah, yeah, I get it.
[07:25:54.120 --> 07:25:58.380]  I understand why the Finance Committee
decided to destroy it.
[07:25:58.380 --> 07:25:59.860]  We put a ton of money in that.
[07:26:04.300 --> 07:26:06.720]  This year was the first year we had
internal budget count.
[07:26:06.940 --> 07:26:09.960]  The last five years it's all been coming
either out of...
[07:26:10.580 --> 07:26:13.600]  I'm not sure where Greg took everything,
but the living grounds are our number 30.
[07:26:13.600 --> 07:26:14.560]  That's going to work.
[07:26:15.420 --> 07:26:36.900]  What can we...
[07:26:44.800 --> 07:26:45.620]  I don't...
[07:26:48.920 --> 07:26:51.880]  Instead of putting it in a bunch of
different areas, can you read this,
[07:26:51.880 --> 07:26:52.180]  read it?
[07:26:52.940 --> 07:26:53.580]  Yeah, I...
[07:26:55.080 --> 07:26:55.580]  Renaming it.
[07:26:56.080 --> 07:26:59.440]  Well, it's still or not, like,
do you want to eliminate my non-reverting
[07:26:59.440 --> 07:26:59.680]  account?
[07:26:59.900 --> 07:27:01.660]  No, we're not trying to eliminate any
account.
[07:27:01.800 --> 07:27:04.140]  We just want to name it something.
[07:27:05.380 --> 07:27:05.780]  Miscellaneous.
[07:27:05.780 --> 07:27:06.520]  Take that off.
[07:27:06.640 --> 07:27:07.160]  What should it be?
[07:27:11.700 --> 07:27:12.980]  Non-reverting is the money...
[07:27:13.820 --> 07:27:15.080]  That's why it's always before.
[07:27:15.420 --> 07:27:15.880]  What are you using?
[07:27:15.880 --> 07:27:16.880]  I should have done less, but I didn't.
[07:27:18.680 --> 07:27:19.440]  But do you...
[07:27:23.060 --> 07:27:24.300]  Miscellaneous personal service.
[07:27:24.540 --> 07:27:26.580]  But it's a non-verbal thing, is what it
is.
[07:27:27.280 --> 07:27:29.120]  So any spending that...
[07:27:30.040 --> 07:27:31.220]  ...counseling, they've always...
[07:27:31.740 --> 07:27:33.520]  That was my understanding, but...
[07:27:35.620 --> 07:27:36.060]  Right.
[07:27:36.120 --> 07:27:39.780]  So I always, anytime I ask for money,
either it's at a board meeting or,
[07:27:39.840 --> 07:27:41.220]  like, you know, the whole board and...
[07:27:41.220 --> 07:27:45.200]  Well, if you look here, that right now,
the spending is over $55,750, but they've
[07:27:45.200 --> 07:27:47.380]  already spent $71,388.
[07:27:49.940 --> 07:27:52.320]  Are you looking at our 2026 so far?
[07:27:52.500 --> 07:27:52.980]  Yes.
[07:27:53.340 --> 07:27:55.160]  Yeah, we spent $44,000 this year.
[07:27:55.400 --> 07:27:56.040]  How much?
[07:27:56.280 --> 07:27:57.040]  $44,000.
[07:27:57.160 --> 07:27:58.020]  It's $71,000.
[07:27:58.140 --> 07:27:58.880]  Yeah, it's $71,000.
[07:27:59.480 --> 07:28:01.920]  I think that's for your...
[07:28:05.790 --> 07:28:07.850]  Yeah, we've got it right here.
[07:28:07.970 --> 07:28:08.470]  We're in the budget.
[07:28:08.630 --> 07:28:09.890]  You spent $71,000.
[07:28:10.510 --> 07:28:11.950]  I said June 30th.
[07:28:12.830 --> 07:28:13.970]  I don't know...
[07:28:15.410 --> 07:28:17.390]  Well, that extra $30,000...
[07:28:19.750 --> 07:28:21.310]  You just passed through that account.
[07:28:22.310 --> 07:28:25.490]  That's why if you look at my ledger,
it's not on there because it never came to
[07:28:25.490 --> 07:28:26.210]  me and I never deposited.
[07:28:26.270 --> 07:28:26.750]  Do you understand?
[07:28:27.030 --> 07:28:27.890]  I understand it.
[07:28:28.490 --> 07:28:31.450]  What I'm seeing, it's overspent.
[07:28:31.450 --> 07:28:32.230]  But it's not.
[07:28:33.310 --> 07:28:37.150]  If you look at my ledger, I cut track of
it, there's only 44,000.
[07:28:37.310 --> 07:28:38.090]  Are you following that?
[07:28:38.090 --> 07:28:55.690]  I mean, it is a wash, but to avoid getting
dinged on an audit, you're going to extend
[07:28:55.690 --> 07:28:57.790]  the extra $30,000.
[07:28:58.370 --> 07:28:59.570]  It was done yet.
[07:29:00.350 --> 07:29:03.010]  When they see that, that is a red flag.
[07:29:03.550 --> 07:29:04.530]  I'm following you.
[07:29:09.710 --> 07:29:11.930]  No, so how should they have done it?
[07:29:12.050 --> 07:29:15.310]  Yeah, it's additional
[07:29:19.940 --> 07:29:25.040]  for $30,000, but it's getting reimbursed
back to the fund.
[07:29:25.140 --> 07:29:30.540]  So it is a... but the accounting principal
budget is coming out of that line and then
[07:29:30.540 --> 07:29:31.220]  receive the revenue.
[07:29:31.240 --> 07:29:31.720]  And then receive the revenue.
[07:29:31.720 --> 07:29:32.140]  That's a revenue.
[07:29:32.340 --> 07:29:32.700]  Okay.
[07:29:35.620 --> 07:29:36.020]  Okay.
[07:29:36.540 --> 07:29:38.100]  It's not too late to fix that.
[07:29:41.800 --> 07:29:44.080]  Because there's a couple in there I saw
like that.
[07:29:44.200 --> 07:29:46.320]  Okay, we'll make it enough to do that
then.
[07:29:46.420 --> 07:29:48.620]  So what are we going to re-label that
miscellaneous?
[07:29:50.020 --> 07:29:51.460]  Are we going to say none or even?
[07:29:51.860 --> 07:29:52.660]  Is that what you want to say?
[07:29:53.800 --> 07:29:56.540]  Well, I can see what you're using it for.
[07:29:57.820 --> 07:29:58.620]  What means...
[07:30:00.500 --> 07:30:04.480]  You took place to pay for projects that
would deplete and utilize a large portion
[07:30:04.480 --> 07:30:05.480]  of the general budget account.
[07:30:08.300 --> 07:30:10.060]  Is this project fund or something?
[07:30:11.620 --> 07:30:12.060]  Okay.
[07:30:12.600 --> 07:30:13.040]  Projects.
[07:30:13.040 --> 07:30:13.240]  Okay.
[07:30:14.220 --> 07:30:15.020]  Project fund.
[07:30:15.260 --> 07:30:15.920]  Project fund?
[07:30:16.080 --> 07:30:16.380]  Yep.
[07:30:16.940 --> 07:30:17.840]  There you go.
[07:30:17.960 --> 07:30:19.180]  Get rid of that miscellaneous.
[07:30:19.460 --> 07:30:22.520]  And so we need to do an additional... is
that what you're saying?
[07:30:22.880 --> 07:30:23.320]  Appropriation?
[07:30:25.200 --> 07:30:25.920]  Yeah, probably.
[07:30:26.300 --> 07:30:26.740]  Okay.
[07:30:27.520 --> 07:30:31.640]  We need to get that sent to me so that we
know that we do that before the end of the
[07:30:31.640 --> 07:30:31.860]  year.
[07:30:36.900 --> 07:30:37.300]  Okay.
[07:30:37.600 --> 07:30:38.840]  Do you want to work with him with that?
[07:30:40.280 --> 07:30:42.200]  Yeah, there's a couple others.
[07:30:43.240 --> 07:30:47.100]  So, we do the program, and then at 30,
is it...
[07:30:47.100 --> 07:30:48.520]  It's going to be, it's already receded
back.
[07:30:49.360 --> 07:30:50.480]  ...given into general fund?
[07:30:51.440 --> 07:30:51.840]  30?
[07:30:52.040 --> 07:30:52.240]  Yeah.
[07:30:53.480 --> 07:30:56.580]  So, originally, I set up an email chain
with Sarah...
[07:30:58.600 --> 07:30:59.520]  ...instead of a password.
[07:31:00.500 --> 07:31:01.820]  So it came in to Sarah.
[07:31:02.000 --> 07:31:02.880]  We have a record.
[07:31:02.960 --> 07:31:03.720]  It came in to Sarah.
[07:31:04.360 --> 07:31:05.560]  I didn't know her background.
[07:31:06.760 --> 07:31:07.160]  Yeah.
[07:31:08.420 --> 07:31:12.520]  I was just a middle man, so I had to kind
of figure it out.
[07:31:13.560 --> 07:31:16.360]  Here's 30 to the end.
[07:31:17.340 --> 07:31:18.360]  That would be a nightmare.
[07:31:30.180 --> 07:31:33.920]  I'm not sure what happened behind the
scenes.
[07:31:35.180 --> 07:31:36.360]  Okay, I'm following.
[07:31:37.100 --> 07:31:37.640]  Okay.
[07:31:39.260 --> 07:31:40.880]  Where do they come from?
[07:31:42.100 --> 07:31:42.640]  Knowledge.
[07:31:44.000 --> 07:31:45.240]  Money that they earn.
[07:31:45.520 --> 07:31:46.660]  The revenues that...
[07:31:47.880 --> 07:31:49.680]  Where do those revenues come from?
[07:31:53.340 --> 07:31:55.880]  So we have a system with ActiveNet.
[07:31:55.960 --> 07:31:57.740]  It's an online reservation system.
[07:31:58.000 --> 07:32:02.300]  And those go into your non-reverting?
[07:32:03.600 --> 07:32:04.140]  Well...
[07:32:10.280 --> 07:32:12.940]  Is that a non-reverting fund?
[07:32:12.940 --> 07:32:13.480]  Yes.
[07:32:13.480 --> 07:32:13.700]  Yes?
[07:32:13.700 --> 07:32:17.420]  Yeah, and then once a month, I,
you know, whatever I submit, you know,
[07:32:17.440 --> 07:32:18.200]  I got a...
[07:32:22.930 --> 07:32:24.930]  ...from your camp fees and that sort of
thing.
[07:32:25.110 --> 07:32:25.390]  Yeah, yeah.
[07:32:25.510 --> 07:32:26.830]  It's pretty steady.
[07:32:27.890 --> 07:32:29.170]  I didn't read my phone.
[07:32:30.210 --> 07:32:31.230]  It's, you know...
[07:32:32.790 --> 07:32:35.090]  That was 1178.
[07:32:36.290 --> 07:32:37.090]  Here's a...
[07:32:37.710 --> 07:32:39.290]  I'm going to look at some old letters.
[07:32:40.130 --> 07:32:42.690]  I mean, you can kind of see that I got
wrote down all my...
[07:32:43.470 --> 07:32:43.990]  ...reported, like,
[07:32:47.870 --> 07:32:49.010]  January 6th.
[07:32:59.630 --> 07:33:01.330]  What are you thinking, Matt?
[07:33:02.050 --> 07:33:05.090]  Capturing that income for this year.
[07:33:05.730 --> 07:33:07.390]  So on January 1st.
[07:33:08.210 --> 07:33:09.210]  December last year.
[07:33:11.970 --> 07:33:13.850]  I got a label.
[07:33:18.050 --> 07:33:22.610]  So it looks like about $6,000 in receipts
last year.
[07:33:22.710 --> 07:33:25.050]  Yeah, last year we brought in about
$136,000.
[07:33:31.800 --> 07:33:33.620]  Is that the last piece you have?
[07:33:35.220 --> 07:33:37.380]  No, this is about $125,000.
[07:33:48.060 --> 07:33:48.500]  It's not one.
[07:33:48.720 --> 07:33:59.520]  So it looks like 10,000... about 125,000
years ago.
[07:34:08.360 --> 07:34:15.880]  So is there, and this is just another
general question, is there a level of cash
[07:34:15.880 --> 07:34:17.900]  in every burning place?
[07:34:32.670 --> 07:34:34.070]  Okay,
[07:34:54.200 --> 07:35:02.900]  so Yeah, the yellow highlighted is picnic
tables.
[07:35:03.020 --> 07:35:11.060]  So you requested $2,300 for picnic tables.
[07:35:12.900 --> 07:35:15.140]  The same 3% increase.
[07:35:15.800 --> 07:35:17.580]  How long was that?
[07:35:18.200 --> 07:35:25.000]  The picnic table, I don't know if you
requested it, but it was my tire,
[07:35:25.080 --> 07:35:35.520]  it was in my, uh, I know, but,
the picnic table, yeah, I thought it was
[07:35:35.520 --> 07:35:38.640]  in the highlighted area, what was it
named?
[07:35:38.840 --> 07:35:42.000]  Well, we utilize that everywhere,
and that's kind of a bigger project with
[07:35:42.000 --> 07:35:44.280]  the guys, and we build as many picnic
tables as we can.
[07:35:46.080 --> 07:35:46.960]  That's what I'm saying.
[07:35:47.100 --> 07:35:48.900]  Okay, so we'll stop making picnic tables.
[07:35:50.220 --> 07:35:51.760]  What did you say?
[07:35:51.780 --> 07:35:53.560]  No, it was just a discussion for the
meeting.
[07:35:54.220 --> 07:35:54.940]  Go ahead.
[07:35:55.120 --> 07:35:59.180]  So, I think the last one, all the picnic
tables.
[07:36:00.120 --> 07:36:04.360]  Yeah, like, the amount of tables we can
make from that is a decrease over the
[07:36:04.360 --> 07:36:04.540]  years.
[07:36:06.120 --> 07:36:08.000]  Back in the day, you could make 15 to 20.
[07:36:08.020 --> 07:36:10.960]  Now, we do 15 tables a month every year.
[07:36:11.780 --> 07:36:16.960]  Like, we take apart, replace all the parts
of the wrong ones, get rid of the nasty
[07:36:16.960 --> 07:36:17.200]  ones.
[07:36:25.740 --> 07:36:30.080]  Right, but that's what I'm trying to ask,
because I don't have that information.
[07:36:30.360 --> 07:36:33.740]  So, for the whole park, you didn't replace
all the parking spaces?
[07:36:33.980 --> 07:36:36.100]  We just take whatever we can afford to
make.
[07:36:36.240 --> 07:36:37.600]  It's usually like 10 or 12 parking spaces.
[07:36:41.860 --> 07:36:42.340]  Okay.
[07:36:43.480 --> 07:36:44.440]  24 parking spaces.
[07:36:55.560 --> 07:36:57.820]  One thing I would just add
[07:37:01.500 --> 07:37:07.720]  is that it only has a $55,000 budget,
but he has some new systems that he is
[07:37:07.720 --> 07:37:08.360]  building it for.
[07:37:09.120 --> 07:37:11.360]  It's bringing in $135,000.
[07:37:11.880 --> 07:37:18.760]  A little thing that could be put in
non-reversal to alleviate general funds.
[07:37:19.420 --> 07:37:21.480]  Billing cash for some things he has.
[07:37:21.700 --> 07:37:23.040]  Trying to find that balance.
[07:37:23.380 --> 07:37:27.300]  So we could take it out there and put that
in a non-reversal.
[07:37:27.620 --> 07:37:31.200]  I might have us use our money for the
piggy tables this year.
[07:37:33.120 --> 07:37:36.720]  I mean, I prefer to take out general money
because, again, I want to utilize the...
[07:37:36.720 --> 07:37:41.520]  In person, I've already used the projects,
like I said, you know, match grants and,
[07:37:41.580 --> 07:37:43.960]  you know, fund, like, water line upgrades.
[07:37:45.140 --> 07:37:46.560]  And you got a plan for that?
[07:37:46.780 --> 07:37:47.240]  What's that?
[07:37:47.460 --> 07:37:48.320]  You got a plan for that?
[07:37:49.520 --> 07:37:52.160]  Well, we're all in the process of working
on a five-year plan.
[07:37:53.060 --> 07:37:56.620]  It's established once that's approved,
and then we'll figure out what steps we're
[07:37:56.620 --> 07:37:57.000]  going for.
[07:38:07.490 --> 07:38:09.230]  Let's leave it in there, 2308.
[07:38:10.250 --> 07:38:11.890]  Let's leave the 2308 in there.
[07:38:12.010 --> 07:38:13.470]  Just, okay, 2308.
[07:38:24.150 --> 07:38:26.290]  That's the only highlights that I had.
[07:38:26.490 --> 07:38:27.350]  What do you have?
[07:38:28.270 --> 07:38:31.910]  I wanted to discuss the two accounts I
wanted to increase my funds, if possible,
[07:38:31.970 --> 07:38:33.230]  would be my tires and tunes.
[07:38:33.750 --> 07:38:34.690]  I'll start with that one.
[07:38:34.750 --> 07:38:37.190]  It's on the first page of the little
pamphlet I gave you.
[07:38:38.430 --> 07:38:40.530]  ...account right now...
[07:38:41.350 --> 07:38:42.410]  ...increasing to a thousand.
[07:38:44.970 --> 07:38:46.530]  ...two trucks and one tractor.
[07:38:48.110 --> 07:38:49.410]  ...total between those...
[07:38:50.650 --> 07:38:51.550]  ...pieces of equipment.
[07:38:52.050 --> 07:38:55.250]  For example, this year I had to replace
one of the larger tractor tires.
[07:38:55.350 --> 07:38:56.470]  That was almost $230.
[07:38:56.790 --> 07:38:58.830]  So half my budget was spent on one tire.
[07:38:59.330 --> 07:39:01.710]  We don't necessarily need that every year,
but...
[07:39:01.710 --> 07:39:03.150]  ...money around...
[07:39:06.310 --> 07:39:07.350]  ...applied tire taxes.
[07:39:09.930 --> 07:39:11.150]  You requested $1,000.
[07:39:13.390 --> 07:39:13.910]  It's in there.
[07:39:14.030 --> 07:39:14.350]  Yeah.
[07:39:15.490 --> 07:39:16.110]  $1,000.
[07:39:16.610 --> 07:39:16.930]  Yeah.
[07:39:17.470 --> 07:39:17.950]  So what?
[07:39:22.130 --> 07:39:25.370]  It's in there.
[07:39:25.410 --> 07:39:25.730]  It's in there.
[07:39:25.730 --> 07:39:26.370]  Okay, gotcha.
[07:39:26.370 --> 07:39:27.410]  If it's in there, it's in there.
[07:39:27.470 --> 07:39:28.470]  Okay, what was the other thing?
[07:39:28.630 --> 07:39:33.750]  It looks like that as well.
[07:39:33.910 --> 07:39:34.030]  Yeah.
[07:39:34.030 --> 07:39:34.390]  Yeah, it's been...
[07:39:35.190 --> 07:39:36.190]  Yeah, it's been said here.
[07:39:36.490 --> 07:39:39.330]  Yeah, and I just explained to you,
like, I like to keep my equipment
[07:39:44.170 --> 07:39:44.830]  It's in there.
[07:40:02.380 --> 07:40:03.340]  Yeah, it's in here.
[07:40:04.300 --> 07:40:05.360]  Yeah, we're taking it out.
[07:40:07.140 --> 07:40:07.880]  Well, I've...
[07:40:09.260 --> 07:40:11.080]  He's gonna tell me all that.
[07:40:13.440 --> 07:40:14.260]  Yeah, he can.
[07:40:15.300 --> 07:40:15.880]  Take it out.
[07:40:23.360 --> 07:40:28.360]  I don't... I have additional notes.
[07:40:30.000 --> 07:40:34.820]  I don't know what they're... something
that the finance...
[07:40:55.480 --> 07:41:01.220]  So then, that's where, that was any kind
of, you're saying, yeah, cleaning
[07:41:01.220 --> 07:41:05.840]  supplies, mopping, you know, to be able to
get to the supplier, customers,
[07:41:05.900 --> 07:41:07.240]  the dining hall, the cleaning supplies.
[07:41:08.500 --> 07:41:10.140]  Custodial, it means being custodial.
[07:41:12.000 --> 07:41:12.900]  I, I...
[07:41:14.960 --> 07:41:17.860]  Okay, I thought somebody was going around
cleaning all the buildings.
[07:41:18.080 --> 07:41:19.600]  No, no, it was supplies.
[07:41:19.960 --> 07:41:20.240]  Okay.
[07:41:20.260 --> 07:41:21.300]  Okay, we'll just change that.
[07:41:22.020 --> 07:41:22.760]  That was it.
[07:41:22.940 --> 07:41:24.020]  Yeah, sorry about that.
[07:41:24.160 --> 07:41:24.780]  No, it'll be fine.
[07:41:48.880 --> 07:41:49.680]  Alright, thanks.
[07:41:50.320 --> 07:41:51.040]  Thank you, Seth.
[07:42:03.380 --> 07:42:06.000]  My plan is just to eliminate any kind of
maintenance.
[07:42:07.240 --> 07:42:08.240]  It's down right now.
[07:42:09.520 --> 07:42:10.620]  We're not going to fund it.
[07:42:10.740 --> 07:42:13.040]  So if you want to do it, you better find
the money.
[07:42:14.280 --> 07:42:17.440]  Well, I mean, for this year, like,
I still have, like, $4,000.
[07:42:18.360 --> 07:42:19.240]  Or this year...
[07:42:27.460 --> 07:42:28.220]  Next year...
[07:42:31.780 --> 07:42:32.660]  I don't know.
[07:42:34.120 --> 07:42:37.820]  ...to your board, because why pay to have
it repaired when you're not going to...
[07:42:37.820 --> 07:42:38.400]  I wouldn't do it.
[07:42:40.020 --> 07:42:40.600]  ...the board.
[07:42:48.520 --> 07:42:52.380]  So that's going to be up to your board
whether they want to put good money after
[07:42:52.380 --> 07:42:52.600]  bad.
[07:42:55.140 --> 07:42:55.940]  Thank you.
[07:42:56.020 --> 07:42:57.320]  Hey, before we do the auditor.
[07:42:57.700 --> 07:42:58.060]  What?
[07:42:59.240 --> 07:43:01.560]  Blame it on the president of the council.
[07:43:01.920 --> 07:43:02.960]  She's going off anyway.
[07:43:03.980 --> 07:43:07.140]  Page 11, real quick, for the county
council.
[07:43:07.640 --> 07:43:09.520]  We have a highlighted miscellaneous
expense.
[07:43:09.640 --> 07:43:10.220]  What do we fix?
[07:43:11.120 --> 07:43:12.120]  Well, there he is.
[07:43:13.980 --> 07:43:15.920]  I just wanted to get this before we...
[07:43:18.320 --> 07:43:18.680]  Yeah.
[07:43:23.140 --> 07:43:23.880]  See how we do?
[07:43:24.040 --> 07:43:24.380]  Yep.
[07:43:28.140 --> 07:43:29.360]  What are we going to put it at?
[07:43:30.420 --> 07:43:31.140]  I wasn't...
[07:43:32.100 --> 07:43:33.000]  That was their value.
[07:43:33.280 --> 07:43:33.360]  Supplies.
[07:43:34.400 --> 07:43:35.240]  That's going to surprise.
[07:43:35.540 --> 07:43:35.800]  No, awards.
[07:43:37.100 --> 07:43:37.460]  Awards.
[07:43:39.060 --> 07:43:40.260]  I haven't learned to get it.
[07:43:48.020 --> 07:43:52.800]  And we don't want to put that as awards,
because sometimes we buy food out of that,
[07:43:52.900 --> 07:43:54.140]  if we're having, like Howard's.
[07:43:54.940 --> 07:43:56.200]  When I did Howard's retirement.
[07:43:56.340 --> 07:43:57.660]  Oh yeah, paper plate.
[07:44:01.200 --> 07:44:02.140]  How do you want to do it?
[07:44:03.040 --> 07:44:04.200]  Before we jump to the auditor.
[07:44:04.700 --> 07:44:07.360]  I hope we shouldn't clean our house too,
you know, so.
[07:44:10.460 --> 07:44:12.760]  I'm going to let you name it, Mike,
since you're going off.
[07:44:13.120 --> 07:44:13.560]  HR.
[07:44:15.600 --> 07:44:16.480]  Human resources.
[07:44:19.220 --> 07:44:20.420]  Can we go to other supplies?
[07:44:21.760 --> 07:44:22.840]  That's not really...
[07:44:27.940 --> 07:44:29.820]  Let's get creative, people.
[07:44:30.600 --> 07:44:33.200]  I do like that, but you laugh about it.
[07:44:36.430 --> 07:44:37.990]  Certificates, as you go out, thank you.
[07:44:40.370 --> 07:44:41.150]  Internments, no.
[07:44:42.550 --> 07:44:43.950]  Let me do something with that.
[07:44:43.950 --> 07:44:49.130]  Because there's times that we've bought
things for celebrations.
[07:44:53.750 --> 07:44:55.510]  We'll think about it and come back to it.
[07:44:55.570 --> 07:44:56.210]  Let's get to the author.
[07:44:58.430 --> 07:44:59.910]  Oh, there's a four, is that right?
[07:45:00.310 --> 07:45:01.150]  I see that.
[07:45:01.530 --> 07:45:02.150]  Uh-oh.
[07:45:02.190 --> 07:45:03.630]  The miscellaneous one.
[07:45:08.480 --> 07:45:10.260]  Yep, the miscellaneous one here.
[07:45:10.400 --> 07:45:10.760]  Look out.
[07:45:11.020 --> 07:45:11.700]  Page four.
[07:45:12.140 --> 07:45:12.920]  Jenny, you ready?
[07:45:13.440 --> 07:45:14.040]  I am.
[07:45:14.220 --> 07:45:14.660]  Where is she?
[07:45:18.860 --> 07:45:21.300]  You're just really asking about the
miscellaneous, right?
[07:45:21.620 --> 07:45:22.760]  Well, we're going to start there.
[07:45:22.920 --> 07:45:23.220]  Yeah.
[07:45:24.680 --> 07:45:27.640]  So on the miscellaneous, there's...
[07:46:12.000 --> 07:46:14.080]  So that committee combined with...
[07:46:15.920 --> 07:46:17.180]  What comes out of that?
[07:46:17.240 --> 07:46:17.860]  What do you use it for?
[07:46:18.360 --> 07:46:26.160]  That is for Verizon visa payments that
come out of there.
[07:46:30.240 --> 07:46:34.300]  And it's not labeled so I can't tell you
exactly what's in there.
[07:46:36.980 --> 07:46:38.440]  Miscellaneous so far as...
[07:46:40.020 --> 07:46:42.460]  What would we pay visa payments out of
that?
[07:46:43.520 --> 07:46:49.230]  I don't know if anything else kind of
comes up, but we have to...
[07:46:49.230 --> 07:46:53.850]  We order supplies off of Amazon and we pay
for it with a visa, so...
[07:46:53.850 --> 07:46:56.870]  So then when you pay that visa card like I
do at my own office, then I...
[07:46:56.870 --> 07:47:01.550]  Then I sort that out to whatever fund that
goes to.
[07:47:01.650 --> 07:47:04.670]  So I take that Visa card and dissect it.
[07:47:04.830 --> 07:47:06.370]  Yeah, the office supplies phone.
[07:47:06.430 --> 07:47:07.310]  That's why I do the same thing.
[07:47:07.450 --> 07:47:10.930]  You can combine it for whatever you want
to do.
[07:47:12.470 --> 07:47:14.170]  Are we talking about the same line?
[07:47:14.290 --> 07:47:14.590]  That one?
[07:47:14.690 --> 07:47:14.910]  Yeah.
[07:47:14.910 --> 07:47:15.870]  Yeah, miscellaneous.
[07:47:16.470 --> 07:47:19.090]  So if she's ordered office supplies...
[07:47:19.090 --> 07:47:22.130]  Some office supplies come out of office
supplies.
[07:47:23.450 --> 07:47:25.070]  It depends on what it is.
[07:47:32.110 --> 07:47:35.090]  So you're saying to do away with it and
move that money into office supplies?
[07:47:36.030 --> 07:47:37.650]  Or whatever category it needs.
[07:47:37.950 --> 07:47:39.030]  Cell phone or whatever.
[07:47:39.290 --> 07:47:41.250]  Yeah, we're just going to do away with her
miscellaneous.
[07:47:41.430 --> 07:47:41.890]  There's not any.
[07:47:42.270 --> 07:47:43.310]  There's none for cell phone.
[07:47:43.390 --> 07:47:44.270]  You're just going to put it in a cell
phone?
[07:47:46.090 --> 07:47:46.990]  Well, there should be.
[07:47:47.750 --> 07:47:52.190]  But your budget ain't $8,500, but there
won't have been $1,600 spent on it.
[07:47:56.510 --> 07:47:58.830]  We're looking at miscellaneous expense.
[07:47:59.250 --> 07:48:00.150]  That's what I'm saying.
[07:48:00.290 --> 07:48:02.470]  So why would you want to stick that in
there?
[07:48:02.550 --> 07:48:02.790]  We're not.
[07:48:02.870 --> 07:48:03.910]  We're doing away with it completely.
[07:48:05.030 --> 07:48:06.210]  Okay, just limit it.
[07:48:06.310 --> 07:48:07.530]  You're not sticking that money up there?
[07:48:07.550 --> 07:48:07.830]  No.
[07:48:08.110 --> 07:48:08.930]  Okay, there you go.
[07:48:09.030 --> 07:48:11.270]  That's what I was trying to... I thought
you said you were sticking it up in there.
[07:48:11.470 --> 07:48:13.730]  No, you've done that with everybody else.
[07:48:14.310 --> 07:48:15.270]  Just limit it, okay.
[07:48:15.650 --> 07:48:18.290]  But we budgeted that, so we're just going
to zero it out?
[07:48:18.410 --> 07:48:18.610]  Yeah.
[07:48:18.810 --> 07:48:19.170]  Okay.
[07:48:19.170 --> 07:48:19.350]  Okay.
[07:48:22.150 --> 07:48:23.530]  Is there one for cell phone?
[07:48:24.730 --> 07:48:25.710]  I don't see that.
[07:48:25.970 --> 07:48:27.110]  There should be just fine.
[07:48:27.990 --> 07:48:29.650]  Whether it be cell phone or whatever.
[07:48:30.490 --> 07:48:32.190]  I don't see anything for that.
[07:48:33.450 --> 07:48:34.090]  There's not.
[07:48:39.060 --> 07:48:40.660]  Maybe it needs to be for cell phone.
[07:48:56.540 --> 07:48:59.360]  So are we going to move that money into
contractual or just let that go?
[07:48:59.580 --> 07:49:00.020]  What is the limit?
[07:49:00.280 --> 07:49:01.300]  Okay, that's what I thought.
[07:49:01.360 --> 07:49:01.840]  I want to make sure.
[07:49:02.560 --> 07:49:03.620]  Okay, it's only $500.
[07:49:06.120 --> 07:49:06.960]  Okay, that's good.
[07:49:07.780 --> 07:49:11.040]  Is there anything else in your budget that
you wanted to talk about?
[07:49:11.360 --> 07:49:16.020]  No, I just, I know that you've heard this
throughout the day
[07:49:33.440 --> 07:49:40.760]  And I think that Dave's committee,
which you're also on, is kind of looking
[07:49:40.760 --> 07:49:41.700]  at those things as well.
[07:49:41.700 --> 07:49:41.860]  Right.
[07:49:42.040 --> 07:49:42.860]  It is.
[07:49:43.120 --> 07:49:46.120]  And we've given information and data.
[07:49:46.380 --> 07:49:53.560]  So, I will... I would be remiss if I did
not give you copies of job descriptions to
[07:49:53.560 --> 07:50:02.080]  let you see what happens within our office
and the things that have to be determined
[07:50:02.080 --> 07:50:10.140]  to the state for federal regulations and I
think it's...
[07:50:10.140 --> 07:50:13.600]  Everything that's on there is everything
that's done in that office.
[07:50:13.880 --> 07:50:22.860]  And so we are busy for tax season,
but if you look at that, it's every day.
[07:50:24.880 --> 07:50:33.840]  There's guidance that we do, plus as far
as being clerk to the commissioners and
[07:50:33.840 --> 07:50:34.220]  the council.
[07:50:37.960 --> 07:50:45.080]  In the absence of the author, the first
deputy takes over.
[07:50:50.910 --> 07:50:57.110]  So you have the first deputy, you have the
plaintiff deputy, and you also have the...
[07:51:11.440 --> 07:51:15.180]  Just to give you an idea before it kind of
kind of starts.
[07:52:22.060 --> 07:52:26.020]  You have two full-time, three full-time
now.
[07:52:26.020 --> 07:52:32.560]  We have the first deputy, we have the
claims, we have the tax, and then I have
[07:52:32.560 --> 07:52:32.880]  the department.
[07:52:33.200 --> 07:52:34.860]  So you have two full-time and then?
[07:52:35.160 --> 07:52:36.160]  I have three full-time.
[07:52:36.200 --> 07:52:36.840]  Three full-time.
[07:52:36.980 --> 07:52:38.400]  I'm just thinking in that...
[07:52:42.760 --> 07:52:47.940]  And the part-time, I know that we talked
about, not just in my office, but
[07:52:47.940 --> 07:52:54.640]  part-time, when we put that in the budget
last year, it was up to $60.
[07:52:55.400 --> 07:52:59.880]  And so there's a lot of people that are
listening to this going forward.
[07:53:00.240 --> 07:53:07.400]  And if you're going to have it where it's
$18, putting the money in so that's what
[07:53:07.400 --> 07:53:14.240]  it's going to be, with next year being 27
days, but I think that you really do need
[07:53:14.240 --> 07:53:19.800]  to look at all of the part-time,
anyone that's being part-time,
[07:53:19.940 --> 07:53:24.360]  and if they're being paid out on another
budget line, and what is the reason for
[07:53:24.360 --> 07:53:24.500]  that.
[07:53:24.640 --> 07:53:30.560]  I know you've said to me, Dave,
on several occasions, there's other people
[07:53:30.560 --> 07:53:37.660]  that are being paid more than what we have
budgeted for when we're doing this budget
[07:53:37.660 --> 07:53:38.120]  process.
[07:53:38.740 --> 07:53:44.700]  And that would be something that is the
responsibility and authority going back to
[07:53:44.700 --> 07:53:45.760]  the council for that.
[07:53:53.460 --> 07:53:54.860]  And everybody's important.
[07:53:55.200 --> 07:53:57.940]  It's not that one person is more important
than the other,
[07:54:13.000 --> 07:54:19.840]  Anybody else have anything that they want
to discuss on the auditor's budget?
[07:54:19.960 --> 07:54:21.060]  That's what it means it's on hand.
[07:54:27.200 --> 07:54:28.960]  So I do have a question for you.
[07:54:30.780 --> 07:54:36.600]  So whenever you
[07:54:39.790 --> 07:54:46.950]  have something in here and you bring in
refreshments and donuts or cookies or that
[07:54:46.950 --> 07:54:53.390]  kind of stuff and maybe an executive
session or a work session, where does that
[07:54:53.390 --> 07:54:54.050]  money come from?
[07:54:54.310 --> 07:54:55.010]  I pay for it.
[07:54:55.630 --> 07:54:56.490]  Yourself personally?
[07:54:56.690 --> 07:54:58.530]  So you don't have the money for that?
[07:54:58.530 --> 07:54:58.810]  I don't.
[07:54:58.810 --> 07:54:59.830]  The Commissioner's budget?
[07:54:59.890 --> 07:55:00.430]  I don't have it.
[07:55:00.430 --> 07:55:11.410]  Now, the commissioners have a line for...
I don't think it's called entertainment,
[07:55:11.850 --> 07:55:16.010]  that's not what it's called, but do you
remember what that's... I don't get in it,
[07:55:16.050 --> 07:55:16.490]  so I can't...
[07:55:16.490 --> 07:55:17.170]  I don't see it.
[07:55:17.410 --> 07:55:20.150]  I didn't see it, so I thought... I was
telling Tina, I said, you know,
[07:55:20.190 --> 07:55:25.170]  you might, when it comes to the council
and the commissioners, they might have to,
[07:55:25.170 --> 07:55:28.050]  in those two positions, you might have to
have a miscellaneous one.
[07:55:28.050 --> 07:55:31.610]  I think that that's probably a good idea
for you all to have those two
[07:55:31.610 --> 07:55:37.010]  commissioners, because there's times that
you have folks in there that you're not
[07:55:37.010 --> 07:55:41.510]  entertaining, but at least providing
coffee or some kind of...
[07:55:41.950 --> 07:55:46.070]  But somebody, like I was telling these
guys, and this is serious, but somebody
[07:55:46.070 --> 07:55:49.870]  that leaves, like Jerry's been doing this
for years and years, when he leaves you
[07:55:49.870 --> 07:55:51.870]  might want to give him a plaque or
something, I don't know.
[07:55:52.150 --> 07:55:53.590]  So where does that money come from?
[07:55:54.610 --> 07:55:55.850]  It could come from that.
[07:55:58.150 --> 07:56:00.250]  Yeah, that's what I did with Howard's.
[07:56:00.250 --> 07:56:02.350]  When I did Howard's retirement party.
[07:56:02.510 --> 07:56:05.050]  We did a plaque and we did a meal.
[07:56:05.630 --> 07:56:06.870]  And it's not much money.
[07:56:07.030 --> 07:56:09.610]  $300 I think we owe Howard or something.
[07:56:09.830 --> 07:56:12.010]  But those two, you might have to ask.
[07:56:14.360 --> 07:56:16.780]  And that's probably a good idea.
[07:56:16.780 --> 07:56:20.080]  I'm glad that we're talking about it
because there are going to be people that
[07:56:20.080 --> 07:56:20.780]  are going to leave.
[07:56:21.580 --> 07:56:23.300]  You might do a plaque for them.
[07:56:23.460 --> 07:56:25.440]  You might do a key to the city.
[07:56:25.440 --> 07:56:32.180]  I don't know what you were actually
thinking that you want to do, but that's
[07:56:32.180 --> 07:56:35.060]  something that you probably need to be
budgeting for.
[07:56:35.820 --> 07:56:36.540]  Yeah, okay.
[07:56:38.120 --> 07:56:39.380]  Do we have anything else?
[07:56:39.720 --> 07:56:40.360]  Nope, that's it.
[07:56:41.520 --> 07:56:42.740]  Do you have anything else?
[07:56:43.620 --> 07:56:45.440]  No, do you have anything else,
Matt?
[07:56:46.640 --> 07:56:47.040]  No?
[07:56:47.740 --> 07:56:48.880]  I think we're good then.
[07:56:50.000 --> 07:56:51.180]  We do have a lot for him.
[07:56:52.200 --> 07:56:54.880]  Can I talk to you about... I miss the
extension office.
[07:56:56.340 --> 07:56:58.020]  Can you have your goals submitted?
[07:56:58.640 --> 07:56:59.080]  Yes.
[07:56:59.320 --> 07:56:59.760]  I will.
[07:57:01.660 --> 07:57:03.120]  I need a motion to adjourn.